Tiiny Arii - Kittybox Escorts - Canary Wharf - ***WARNING SCAMMER!**

[punting2017]

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Easily the worst punt of this year and probably will be for the rest. EXERCISE EXTREME CAUTION.

Comms were fine, I clarified if i was speaking to the working girl and this was confirmed during initial booking. Like list confirmed, everything in like list is included within the price and the price per hour all confirmed. 300 ph. Cash on arrival. Booking made 6 hours ahead of time. An hour before the booking I asked to put the booking back by 30minutes due to traffic this was accepted, only for the booking to be pushed back another 30 minutes 30 minutes later whilst I was already on route. Some bullshit excuse about having drinks with a friend which was a lie.

Location: Hotel in Canary Wharf, no parking. Nearest station is a good 1 mile away. Nightmare location. Arrived at location at new agreed time, was still left waiting in the lobby for another 40 minutes. Girl eventually met me in the lift after the wait and we proceeded to the room.

Girl: As pictured, probably a little darker than pictures. Im going to say 2 faced which will be apparent later on in this review. Initially really friendly and sympathetic to me having to wait. Long story short I didn't speak to her it was a lying little bitch of a receptionist/bossbwho basically will tell you her mother is dying to get you to hang about/pay for the booking. Like list isn't correct and the story of drinks with a friend and all the delay BS is because the previous client extended.

Punt: Entered the room and said I as I didn't speak to you would like to clarify everything again. Like list not correct, only accepts transfers and you can only cum once in an hour. Had cash but was adamant she did not take it.  Girl said she was independent and she pays someone to manage her phone which was believable at the time. Told me she would fire the receptionist for giving the wrong info. The receptionist tried changing the hourly rate to 350 whilst i was in the room and then trying to pawn off a fake discount of 50 back down to 300, despite the original fee being 300. Luckily I had a screenshot and caught them red handed. Because of the delay and all the BS info i got on the phone after a very long convo we agreed 1h booking  at 300 with the option to come more than once and 15minutes free  time.nWas going to transfer the funds but the cash app was down for maintenance so i said let me do it after the booking and ill leave the cash on the table for her to hold. Timer started which I let the girl know.

Punt wise girl delivered everything asked, had an amazing personalit did everything i wanted well. If I could just rate her just on this it would be a strong positive. However what she later did negates from all this making her and the agency a STRONG NEGATIVE.

45 minute into the booking the receptionist calls back saying time is up. Im fucking shocked. Show the girl the timer at its 45 minutes. Theres a conversation had between them in private and I'm put onto the phone and told tough shit. Giving me some bullshit about her being the boss and the girl works for her (which transpires to be true, which wasn't what i was told at the beginning). The boss tells me the girl has a 4 hour booking and she's not going to lose that booking so this booking has to end.I tell her i don't give a damn I've paid for my hour and 15. She bangs on about time and time being money but the silly bitch fails to see she's wasted an hour of my time before the booking by rescheduling and making me wait downstairs, which is fine as we agreed 15minute extra time to compensate. However cutting the booking at 45 minutes was not on. So i get dressed and say to the girl I'm happy to pay her something but not the full 300. Luckily for me i hadn't made the transfer and the cash was on the table. The boss tells the girl to have me removed from the room but she tells her I've not paid by transfer and I've paid cash (a lucky save for me).

I offer 200 because of the time wasting and the booking not being an hour, theres some stalling by the girl who is on the phone to the boss and she says wait I'm getting dressed (which at the time wasn't strange but did peak my attention) next thing i know security of the hotel turn up at the door and I'm accused of stealing her money. Long story short the silly bitch on the phone had tried to spin a fast one, trying to get the full 300 despite me offering a very fair 200. In hindsight I now regret even paying 200 it should have been nothing for all the ag.

Im not having any of this and i ask for the police to be called as the bitch on the phone needs to be taught a lesson and Im also thinking the working girl tried to entrap me, security initially took her side but her story soon feel apart. Especially when they had seen me sit in the lobby for 40 minutes beforehand, the string of messages on my phone and the money in my pocket i could recall every note and each one was marked and the working girl couldn't rebuttal anything. Eventually we settled on 200 and parted ways and security was happy to let things lay to bed.

Just incase the working girl is reading this or the Kitty box agency boss is, don't even for a second try retaliate to this review, you tried to scam me and I'm warning people of what you did. Fucking humble yourself and realise the truth always come out and you have no leg to stand on you shameful little shits. You tried to entrap me with security and i beat your fucking arse because your a dirty fucking liar. The truth came out. I have all the messages saved on my phone from you, i have a voice recording of the whole booking and what I agreed with the girl in the room, timestamps and screenshots of the original price. I have the girls real name, her account details, her address so don't think for a second you can try beat me with any more bullshit. I have her on video accepting 200 as full and final payment. Im not talking shit. As proof I know the girl did a BTEC at Oldham College. None of this will ever be shared with anyone, as long as this is the end of the matter, I'm happy to put this to bed but if you try and do another dumbness then I have all this evidence to prove and expose you.

My real problem is with the boss i think the girl was new/inexperienced and on the whole very nice but probably was under a lot of  pressure to entrap me. I did feel a sense of regret but shame on you too for doing that when I was nothing but fair, honest and nice to you. I could have bolted out the room but I made it very clear I'm paying you a fair amount.


A word of warning, clarify everything before parting with cash and be prepared for your booking to be cut short with no way of getting any funds back. Expect every excuse under the sun.

[punting2017]

Can someone upload the profile capture please in case the group or girl tries inventing a fresh profile or avoid being linked to this review.

[king tarzan]

She will get a fair share of white knights defending her pathetic actions
In there eyes the paying punter is always wrong if he's conned

[GingerNuts]

Can someone upload the profile capture please in case the group or girl tries inventing a fresh profile or avoid being linked to this review.

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[Kevin Boss]

Oh Dang Tarzan got banned? Wow man 

[DoorDash]

What’s Tarzan done … to be fair seemed like a dodgy character. Especially from years ago what was written about him on SAAFE.

 

[JustaPunter]

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Easily the worst punt of this year and probably will be for the rest. EXERCISE EXTREME CAUTION.

Comms were fine, I clarified if i was speaking to the working girl and this was confirmed during initial booking. Like list confirmed, everything in like list is included within the price and the price per hour all confirmed. 300 ph. Cash on arrival. Booking made 6 hours ahead of time. An hour before the booking I asked to put the booking back by 30minutes due to traffic this was accepted, only for the booking to be pushed back another 30 minutes 30 minutes later whilst I was already on route. Some bullshit excuse about having drinks with a friend which was a lie.

Location: Hotel in Canary Wharf, no parking. Nearest station is a good 1 mile away. Nightmare location. Arrived at location at new agreed time, was still left waiting in the lobby for another 40 minutes. Girl eventually met me in the lift after the wait and we proceeded to the room.

Girl: As pictured, probably a little darker than pictures. Im going to say 2 faced which will be apparent later on in this review. Initially really friendly and sympathetic to me having to wait. Long story short I didn't speak to her it was a lying little bitch of a receptionist/bossbwho basically will tell you her mother is dying to get you to hang about/pay for the booking. Like list isn't correct and the story of drinks with a friend and all the delay BS is because the previous client extended.

Punt: Entered the room and said I as I didn't speak to you would like to clarify everything again. Like list not correct, only accepts transfers and you can only cum once in an hour. Had cash but was adamant she did not take it.  Girl said she was independent and she pays someone to manage her phone which was believable at the time. Told me she would fire the receptionist for giving the wrong info. The receptionist tried changing the hourly rate to 350 whilst i was in the room and then trying to pawn off a fake discount of 50 back down to 300, despite the original fee being 300. Luckily I had a screenshot and caught them red handed. Because of the delay and all the BS info i got on the phone after a very long convo we agreed 1h booking  at 300 with the option to come more than once and 15minutes free  time.nWas going to transfer the funds but the cash app was down for maintenance so i said let me do it after the booking and ill leave the cash on the table for her to hold. Timer started which I let the girl know.

Punt wise girl delivered everything asked, had an amazing personalit did everything i wanted well. If I could just rate her just on this it would be a strong positive. However what she later did negates from all this making her and the agency a STRONG NEGATIVE.

45 minute into the booking the receptionist calls back saying time is up. Im fucking shocked. Show the girl the timer at its 45 minutes. Theres a conversation had between them in private and I'm put onto the phone and told tough shit. Giving me some bullshit about her being the boss and the girl works for her (which transpires to be true, which wasn't what i was told at the beginning). The boss tells me the girl has a 4 hour booking and she's not going to lose that booking so this booking has to end.I tell her i don't give a damn I've paid for my hour and 15. She bangs on about time and time being money but the silly bitch fails to see she's wasted an hour of my time before the booking by rescheduling and making me wait downstairs, which is fine as we agreed 15minute extra time to compensate. However cutting the booking at 45 minutes was not on. So i get dressed and say to the girl I'm happy to pay her something but not the full 300. Luckily for me i hadn't made the transfer and the cash was on the table. The boss tells the girl to have me removed from the room but she tells her I've not paid by transfer and I've paid cash (a lucky save for me).

I offer 200 because of the time wasting and the booking not being an hour, theres some stalling by the girl who is on the phone to the boss and she says wait I'm getting dressed (which at the time wasn't strange but did peak my attention) next thing i know security of the hotel turn up at the door and I'm accused of stealing her money. Long story short the silly bitch on the phone had tried to spin a fast one, trying to get the full 300 despite me offering a very fair 200. In hindsight I now regret even paying 200 it should have been nothing for all the ag.

Im not having any of this and i ask for the police to be called as the bitch on the phone needs to be taught a lesson and Im also thinking the working girl tried to entrap me, security initially took her side but her story soon feel apart. Especially when they had seen me sit in the lobby for 40 minutes beforehand, the string of messages on my phone and the money in my pocket i could recall every note and each one was marked and the working girl couldn't rebuttal anything. Eventually we settled on 200 and parted ways and security was happy to let things lay to bed.

Just incase the working girl is reading this or the Kitty box agency boss is, don't even for a second try retaliate to this review, you tried to scam me and I'm warning people of what you did. Fucking humble yourself and realise the truth always come out and you have no leg to stand on you shameful little shits. You tried to entrap me with security and i beat your fucking arse because your a dirty fucking liar. The truth came out. I have all the messages saved on my phone from you, i have a voice recording of the whole booking and what I agreed with the girl in the room, timestamps and screenshots of the original price. I have the girls real name, her account details, her address so don't think for a second you can try beat me with any more bullshit. I have her on video accepting 200 as full and final payment. Im not talking shit. As proof I know the girl did a BTEC at Oldham College. None of this will ever be shared with anyone, as long as this is the end of the matter, I'm happy to put this to bed but if you try and do another dumbness then I have all this evidence to prove and expose you.

My real problem is with the boss i think the girl was new/inexperienced and on the whole very nice but probably was under a lot of  pressure to entrap me. I did feel a sense of regret but shame on you too for doing that when I was nothing but fair, honest and nice to you. I could have bolted out the room but I made it very clear I'm paying you a fair amount.


A word of warning, clarify everything before parting with cash and be prepared for your booking to be cut short with no way of getting any funds back. Expect every excuse under the sun.

Not sure what to make of this review.

Seems a lot going on

But did the SW give you permission to record the booking?

And threatening to Dox the SW!

You really think that’s fair?

[LLPunting]

Not sure what to make of this review.

Seems a lot going on

But did the SW give you permission to record the booking?

And threatening to Dox the SW!

You really think that’s fair?

I agree, as outrageous as the alleged scam is, threatening the SP who he appears to be holding largely blameless is straying into criminal behaviour.
OP, whilst you may have just cause to take a subsequent complaint to the Police be very aware that your published threats here will not be to your credit.
Hotel security and the SP will be witness to anything that is not obvious from the tape you claim to have, let's hope your actual behaviour was polite, unthreatening and reasonable in the room, including videoing the final payment.

Given your claims do you record all bookings from the outset?
Did you see her BTEC certificate?
Let's hope the SP doesn't turn out to be working under coercion by the agency because as guilty as they might be you could also be on the hook.

[punting2017]

Not sure what to make of this review.

Seems a lot going on

But did the SW give you permission to record the booking?

And threatening to Dox the SW!

You really think that’s fair?

Look I know it’s a it far fetched but it’s what happened. Take it what you will or don’t take it at all, the info is there for people to decide what they will and if it helps 1 person out then that’s the point of this forum.

Look I’m a fair guy, but at the same time I have to cover myself. Having evidence of what you agreed and everything being consensual is important. Things like this can go sideways very quickly and we all know police generally will always side with a female in these situations. It’s a case of your word against someone else unless you have something to back you up.

The profile and the agency has disappeared now, they may resurface later.

[punting2017]

I agree, as outrageous as the alleged scam is, threatening the SP who he appears to be holding largely blameless is straying into criminal behaviour.
OP, whilst you may have just cause to take a subsequent complaint to the Police be very aware that your published threats here will not be to your credit.
Hotel security and the SP will be witness to anything that is not obvious from the tape you claim to have, let's hope your actual behaviour was polite, unthreatening and reasonable in the room, including videoing the final payment.

Given your claims do you record all bookings from the outset?
Did you see her BTEC certificate?
Let's hope the SP doesn't turn out to be working under coercion by the agency because as guilty as they might be you could also be on the hook.

Well this is where the lines blur, largely blameless I agree, but at the same time no, because when security came and police action came into question she decided to stick to the scam story rather than be honest knowing the truth. It was entrapment especially as I have said I was nothing but polite and fair, the whole time I was negotiating an agreeable payment because the services weren’t delivered as promised they were hatching a plan for security to turn up to the room. She was happy to continue the BS story of me nicking her money, god knows what else she would have said if it had escalated. Had I not protected myself and her realising that her story would not stick I wonder how far and how many more lines would have been told. This bunch looked hellbent on being vengeful/getting paid, so my post is just me saying let’s draw the line here. I’m not going to share any details as long as this matter ends here.

Look by the end of it security was on my side and the SP and security was happy for me to film the end agreement, all done with consent. As for being under coercion, this is why it’s important to cover yourself, if I had known she was working for an agency I would have left, numerous times I asked her and she said she was independent working for herself employing a maid/receptionist to manage the phone.

[JustaPunter]

Look I know it’s a it far fetched but it’s what happened. Take it what you will or don’t take it at all, the info is there for people to decide what they will and if it helps 1 person out then that’s the point of this forum.

Look I’m a fair guy, but at the same time I have to cover myself. Having evidence of what you agreed and everything being consensual is important. Things like this can go sideways very quickly and we all know police generally will always side with a female in these situations. It’s a case of your word against someone else unless you have something to back you up.

The profile and the agency has disappeared now, they may resurface later.

It was a simple question.

Did you have permission to record the interaction?

Would you be happy if a SP decided to make a covert recording of your visit then use that fact to threaten or intimidate afterwards?

[LLPunting]

Well this is where the lines blur, largely blameless I agree, but at the same time no, because when security came and police action came into question she decided to stick to the scam story rather than be honest knowing the truth. It was entrapment especially as I have said I was nothing but polite and fair, the whole time I was negotiating an agreeable payment because the services weren’t delivered as promised they were hatching a plan for security to turn up to the room. She was happy to continue the BS story of me nicking her money, god knows what else she would have said if it had escalated. Had I not protected myself and her realising that her story would not stick I wonder how far and how many more lines would have been told. This bunch looked hellbent on being vengeful/getting paid, so my post is just me saying let’s draw the line here. I’m not going to share any details as long as this matter ends here.

Look by the end of it security was on my side and the SP and security was happy for me to film the end agreement, all done with consent. As for being under coercion, this is why it’s important to cover yourself, if I had known she was working for an agency I would have left, numerous times I asked her and she said she was independent working for herself employing a maid/receptionist to manage the phone.

Again to clarify, do you record all your booking arrangements or do you audio record the every entire encounter or are you actually videoing the encounter?

Trying to get the timeline straight:
You called and agreed a time T.
The time was slipped an hour (+30 by you for travel delays +30 by them for drinks with friends)
Time then slipped another 40 mins when you waited without comms with girl/maid?
In the room you then wasted an unspecified "long time" x on the phone arguing about the booking with the now agency manager and got them to agree to 75 min booking for 300. 
So we're at T+100+x to start and you're now ending your booking 40+x+15 after they would be expecting you to leave and all that might entail for her next client(s).

[punting2017]

It was a simple question.

Did you have permission to record the interaction?

Would you be happy if a SP decided to make a covert recording of your visit then use that fact to threaten or intimidate afterwards?

I would have no issue with a voice recording and I wouldn't be bothered. From my experience the ones that are bothered are the ones that aren't willing to deliver services as agreed/scamming people.

Thing you're missing the simple point of if you behave badly, bad things will come of it. People shouldn't try entrapping or scamming people. It isn't rocket science.

[punting2017]

Again to clarify, do you record all your booking arrangements or do you audio record the every entire encounter or are you actually videoing the encounter?

Trying to get the timeline straight:
1 You called and agreed a time T.
2 The time was slipped an hour (+30 by you for travel delays +30 by them for drinks with friends)
3 Time then slipped another 40 mins when you waited without comms with girl/maid?
4 In the room you then wasted an unspecified "long time" x on the phone arguing about the booking with the now agency manager and got them to agree to 75 min booking for 300. 
5 So we're at T+100+x to start and you're now ending your booking 40+x+15 after they would be expecting you to leave and all that might entail for her next client(s).

1 yes

2 yes

3 40 minutes yes with comms with who i thought was the sp. Waited in lobby of hotel. Gave an excuse about a friend having to wait for a taxi.

4 in the room after initial greetings it turns out the person i had been communicating with was a receptionist that managed the SPs bookings. SP had never spoke to me, was unaware i had been waiting downstair, unaware of all previous communication. So like list and the rest of the info i had already asked on the phone needed to be reconfirmed. Upon reconfirmation some of it was wrong, such as like list not being correct, no cash accepted, rates changing from those on profile etc. SP was happy to accept 75minutes for 300, but needed to speak to her receptionist to avoid double booking. Receptionist tried to haggle me back unto 350 for 60, then 300 for 60 and eventually after a lot of explaining settled at 75 for 300. At this point i was still under the impression the receptionist was a receptionist working for the SP as that was what i was told by the receptionist and SP. So at this point the booking starts and I've confirmed this with the SP and set a timer for 75minutes @ 300.

5 45 minutes into the booking (still 30 minutes left) the receptionist calls says times up, apparently overbooking another booking chichis 4 hours long. I say fine because at this point it just one thing after another. Say I'm happy to end it here at 45 (with 30 minutes left) but I'm not paying the full 300 as that was for 75minutes as agreed.

Hope this makes better sense.

[beatndelete]

Omgggg she back!!! She was one of my first punts few years back, and was good service cant believe shes back

Nvm now the profiles down

[LLPunting]

1 yes

2 yes

3 40 minutes yes with comms with who i thought was the sp. Waited in lobby of hotel. Gave an excuse about a friend having to wait for a taxi.

4 in the room after initial greetings it turns out the person i had been communicating with was a receptionist that managed the SPs bookings. SP had never spoke to me, was unaware i had been waiting downstair, unaware of all previous communication. So like list and the rest of the info i had already asked on the phone needed to be reconfirmed. Upon reconfirmation some of it was wrong, such as like list not being correct, no cash accepted, rates changing from those on profile etc. SP was happy to accept 75minutes for 300, but needed to speak to her receptionist to avoid double booking. Receptionist tried to haggle me back unto 350 for 60, then 300 for 60 and eventually after a lot of explaining settled at 75 for 300. At this point i was still under the impression the receptionist was a receptionist working for the SP as that was what i was told by the receptionist and SP. So at this point the booking starts and I've confirmed this with the SP and set a timer for 75minutes @ 300.

5 45 minutes into the booking (still 30 minutes left) the receptionist calls says times up, apparently overbooking another booking chichis 4 hours long. I say fine because at this point it just one thing after another. Say I'm happy to end it here at 45 (with 30 minutes left) but I'm not paying the full 300 as that was for 75minutes as agreed.

Hope this makes better sense.

Thanks for more detail around the timeline but you haven't answered the main question about what you're recording when you go punting.

If the receptionist was employed by the SP then why would you enter into debate with her about how much to pay if the SP had already told her what she had agreed with you?
Your BS alarm should've been lifting you off your feet and out the door.

[PilotMan]

The agency and girls profiles are both gone.

Why would a legit business suddenly disappear?

[harry1980]

Sounds like you got shafted. Waiting 40 mins in the lobby would have been enough for me to walk especially after they pushed you a further 30 mins when you were on route!

I would never do a cash transfer either. Takes all the anonymity out of it.

Glad you stood your ground especially when hotel security arrived. They should have kicked her out in my opinion plus they have no authority over you so should have just left £100 on the table and walked out if they weren’t going to call the police. You had balls to stay and argue your side. Not sure recording the event is the right way to go. Sounds like you had enough evidence on text messages.

The amount of times we’ve all been scammed out of time or shafted for an extra ££££ for an extra they decided to charge for half way through a meet or an agency promising services the WG won’t deliver to get you into the room and hand over the money before they renege on services so we should make sure we stand up for ourselves and call them on it so well done to you and I know we all have opinions on peoples experiences written on here but when you are in the moment things don’t always go the way you think and you have to base decisions on the situation. The agency in this case agreed one thing then changed their minds. The OP had the benefit that he hadn’t given the money on bank transfer and quite rightly tried to negotiate.  If your a decent agency or Independant provider you don’t bill shit and scam your clients.

 
 P.S - secret recording is not okay from either the SP or OP.

[PilotMan]

@harry1980

I concur with your sentiments. I recently had a similar situation with a girl and an AW agency (casandracartier - reviewed). I asked for confirmation of everything (extras etc) via text and on the phone. I was told the girl will discuss this with you in the room. They obviously rely on punters not having the nerve to walk, and assume that our balls are overflowing, so we'll just get on with it.

As for recording conversations, irrespective of your views on whether this is morally right or wrong, it is legal in the UK for you to record any conversation with another person WITHOUT their consent, if it is for your personal use. Personal use might be open to interpretation, but using it to defend yourself would be covered.

[harry1980]

Hey Pilotman thanks for the legal info on personal recordings good to know 

[PilotMan]

Hey Pilotman thanks for the legal info on personal recordings good to know 

It might be legal, but it's best not to let the missus know you're recording her when she lobs a frying pan at you