Bora korean - W8. Deposit scamming scumbag

[finn5555]

Wtf you on about? What fans? Moron

Plenty of them  you have been here 5 minutes I suggest do your research before throwing around insults 

[Stealthmode]

Have the profile pictures been changed since earlier?

2 scammed now and 2 negatives, does it really matter who is doing the scamming? It is her profile being used to do it and a thief is a thief. .

Precisely

[MLawro93]

Have the profile pictures been changed since earlier?

2 scammed now and 2 negatives, does it really matter who is doing the scamming? It is her profile being used to do it and a thief is a thief. .

Yeah the photos have been changed. The latest ones have been removed.

[Cheshuk]

When she asked me for the deposit, she said 15% is the requirement. It's odd that people are being given different amounts.

OP wanted to book 2 hours which is £800 so the deposit should've been £120.

It does seem very out of character and a stupid move if it genuinely is the SP, should she plan to work in London again. The amount she makes from the scamming wouldn't come close to what she would make long-term had she not just sabotaged her reputation. As mentioned already she may not be involved and her account has been hacked, even possible she's not involved with the new profile at all, that.. or she is entirely involved and she doesn't plan to do this anymore in London and is milking every last penny via a scam.

I've had her profile on my hot list for awhile, and as someone else mentioned it says accessing from Korea.. So if she is posting recent updates on social media, I don't know her social media… then it would seem there is a third-party involved here. Edit, I think a VPN can change her location, so actually no need for a third party. If she was going to use the profile to scam people, she would want it to look like she is in the country

[flamingice]

Likely been scammed too.  Thankfully for me £120 loss is no biggie.  I have GAINED £680 I would have been handing over tomorrow, which I can go blast elsewhere.

I will wait and see if it comes good tomorrow but highly doubtful now.

I guess everyone got her other message about £100 for some private vids.  I ignored that one.

[Jstar77]

So I managed to get in touch with her directly. I obviously don’t know if she’s saying the truth. According to her, a guy that has helped her go independent from the Canary Wharf boss she worked for(back in 2018?), he might be the one doing the scamming. He helped her setup her current independent AW account and helper her with some of the financial logistics previously. Supposedly he went rogue this summer after her August trip (she showed me screenshots of her conversation with him) and took her money and blocked her after sending her screenshots of him sending the money to her. He had access to her account and helped with bank transfers and going independent - setting up account and other stuff.

I have suspicion he might be the guy touting her on here previously. She sent me screenshot of his Instagram account and their conversation but I couldn’t find the Instagram handle anymore. The Instagram account had a name of “Raymond Hui”, not sharing the actual username as I’m not sure if it’s allowed. I can attach other stuff too that she showed but I don’t know if I’m allowed to?

I want justice.

[Jstar77]

So I managed to get in touch with her directly. I obviously don’t know if she’s saying the truth. According to her, a guy that has helped her go independent from the Canary Wharf boss she worked for(back in 2018?), he might be the one doing the scamming. He helped her setup her current independent AW account and helper her with some of the financial logistics previously. Supposedly he went rogue this summer after her August trip (she showed me screenshots of her conversation with him) and took her money and blocked her after sending her screenshots of him sending the money to her. He had access to her account and helped with bank transfers and going independent - setting up account and other stuff.

I have suspicion he might be the guy touting her on here previously. She sent me screenshot of his Instagram account and their conversation but I couldn’t find the Instagram handle anymore. The Instagram account had a name of “Raymond Hui”, not sharing the actual username as I’m not sure if it’s allowed. I can attach other stuff too that she showed but I don’t know if I’m allowed to?

I want justice.

He is definitely a U.K. resident.

The guy definitely reads this forum so if he is reading this - better get in touch and return my money. It’s not even about the amount, it’s about the principle.

[Cheshuk]

So I managed to get in touch with her directly. I obviously don’t know if she’s saying the truth. According to her, a guy that has helped her go independent from the Canary Wharf boss she worked for(back in 2018?), he might be the one doing the scamming. He helped her setup her current independent AW account and helper her with some of the financial logistics previously. Supposedly he went rogue this summer after her August trip (she showed me screenshots of her conversation with him) and took her money and blocked her after sending her screenshots of him sending the money to her. He had access to her account and helped with bank transfers and going independent - setting up account and other stuff.

I have suspicion he might be the guy touting her on here previously. She sent me screenshot of his Instagram account and their conversation but I couldn’t find the Instagram handle anymore. The Instagram account had a name of “Raymond Hui”, not sharing the actual username as I’m not sure if it’s allowed. I can attach other stuff too that she showed but I don’t know if I’m allowed to?

I want justice.

On a sidenote I've always had a principle of paying deposits to seemingly trustworthy and well reviewed sp's, and it's always been fine. Fortunately I'm not one of the people who got scammed here, although I was considering a booking. The lessons I've taken on from this are don't pay deposits to new accounts of old sp's, and I'm going to make sure to speak to them on the phone before paying even if they're well reviewed.

That's quite an intricate story to make up if it's bollocks especially considering she has screenshots. If she was in on the scam I would be surprised if she had replied to you. I hope you get your money back, my gut feeling is that it's a guy using her name, as this is tremendously out of character for someone with a good reputation. It certainly seems as though he is following this thread, considering his Instagram disappeared shortly afterwards if I understood you correctly.

The truth always comes out, it's just a shame that there are non-members out there that won't see this thread, so the scamming will continue succcessfully. That's why it's critical for the profile to be reported asap and hopefully aw willl take action. The messages from Bora herself would be useful i'd imagine to anyone who reports, down to mods if they're permitted.

[Jstar77]

On a sidenote I've always had a principle of paying deposits to seemingly trustworthy and well reviewed sp's, and it's always been fine. Fortunately I'm not one of the people who got scammed here, although I was considering a booking. The lessons I've taken on from this are don't pay deposits to new accounts of old sp's, and I'm going to make sure to speak to them on the phone before paying even if they're well reviewed.

That's quite an intricate story to make up if it's bollocks especially considering she has screenshots. If she was in on the scam I would be surprised if she had replied to you. I hope you get your money back, my gut feeling is that it's a guy using her name, as this is tremendously out of character for someone with a good reputation. It certainly seems as though he is following this thread, considering his Instagram disappeared shortly afterwards if I understood you correctly.

The truth always comes out, it's just a shame that there are non-members out there that won't see this thread, so the scamming will continue succcessfully. That's why it's critical for the profile to be reported asap and hopefully aw willl take action. The messages from Bora herself would be useful i'd imagine to anyone who reports, down to mods if they're permitted.

He definitely follows this thread because I mentioned the scam review when demanding my money back and he mentioned something from this thread, before blocking me.

Regards the reporting. I’ve reported both on AW and cashapp.

[Cheshuk]

He definitely follows this thread because I mentioned the scam review when demanding my money back and he mentioned something from this thread, before blocking me.

Regards the reporting. I’ve reported both on AW and cashapp.

It's a horrible feeling getting scammed, but respect for taking action that will help others avoid this via posting your review and reporting. For peace of mind probably best to write it off, and if somehow you get it back then just see it as a bonus.

I'm not sure if you noticed but on your personal Bora review the mods said you needed to add more detail or it will be removed, I'd recommend adding some detail in the comment section. When I first joined my reviews weren't detailed enough and a couple of them did get removed so just some friendly advice, as your review in this case is a very helpful warning

[PilotMan]

Have the profile pictures been changed since earlier?

2 scammed now and 2 negatives, does it really matter who is doing the scamming? It is her profile being used to do it and a thief is a thief. .

+1

[markfin]

This is complete insanity! No girl is worth £500 an hour and insisting on a deposit up front is even more crazy! I hope AW will take her profile down

[Cheshuk]

+1

Knowing who is behind the scamming is important. If she genuinely returns to the UK with a new profile, not requesting deposits. There will be a question for many punters of should they visit her. I'd certainly considerate if the consensus turns out that she had no involvement here, and I didn't have anything to lose paying anything upfront

[Jstar77]

I think I may have narrowed it down to potentially finding the culprit 🙂 God bless the internet

And God bless idiots who are stupid enough to attempt to scam people and leave a paper trail of “bread crumbs” 

[flamingice]

They need to be crapping their pants because guess what - it’s all electronic and traceable.  Days where you could sit behind a computer screen and feel safe are well and truly over.  That money went somewhere, to someone’s legal bank account backed by a real person.

Cashapp going to need to work with the law enforcement and authorities, so there’s no hiding.

[Kev40ish]

They need to be crapping their pants because guess what - it’s all electronic and traceable.  Days where you could sit behind a computer screen and feel safe are well and truly over.  That money went somewhere, to someone’s legal bank account backed by a real person.

Cashapp going to need to work with the law enforcement and authorities, so there’s no hiding.

Really…

It’s a peer to peer transfer system not particularly secure… not guaranteed to get your money back unfortunately.
That’s why scammers use it with a throwaway account

[isaac_gauss]

Was there any proof that the girl who earned the good reviews had any connection to this newer AW profile? I hope you get your money back.

[Jstar77]

Really…

It’s a peer to peer transfer system not particularly secure… not guaranteed to get your money back unfortunately.
That’s why scammers use it with a throwaway account

Agreed, I don’t bet on cashapp returning me money. But he could himself return the money to avoid trouble (if what Bora said is true but gut feeling saying she’s saying the truth). He took a way larger amount from her.

[Jstar77]

Account has now been deleted. Not sure if it’s due to the AW reporting or if he himself deleted it?

[DaVINCI]

So I managed to get in touch with her directly. I obviously don’t know if she’s saying the truth. According to her, a guy that has helped her go independent from the Canary Wharf boss she worked for(back in 2018?), he might be the one doing the scamming. He helped her setup her current independent AW account and helper her with some of the financial logistics previously. Supposedly he went rogue this summer after her August trip (she showed me screenshots of her conversation with him) and took her money and blocked her after sending her screenshots of him sending the money to her. He had access to her account and helped with bank transfers and going independent - setting up account and other stuff.

I have suspicion he might be the guy touting her on here previously. She sent me screenshot of his Instagram account and their conversation but I couldn’t find the Instagram handle anymore. The Instagram account had a name of “Raymond Hui”, not sharing the actual username as I’m not sure if it’s allowed. I can attach other stuff too that she showed but I don’t know if I’m allowed to?

I want justice.

I hope your get your Deposit back but unfortunately, I think you are going to write it off 

I have never meet this WG and tbh I had no intention even at her original rates which were alot cheaper than the £500ph  currently being quoted.

I think the explanation from the WG is plausible and that the Scammer has greatly increased her PH rates (from original rates) in order to justify the Deposit amount.

I would never pay a Deposit but if I even thought about it, I would have had to meet the WG a good few times (but even that would raise questions) but l would'nt pay.

AW needs to get this profile taken down immediately.

IMO, The WG has been extremely naive in not changing her Login Details once she was no longer available 

[Jstar77]

I hope your get your Deposit back but unfortunately, I think you are going to write it off 

I have never meet this WG and tbh I had no intention even at her original rates which were alot cheaper than the £500ph  currently being quoted.

I think the explanation from the WG is plausible and that the Scammer has greatly increased her PH rates (from original rates) in order to justify the Deposit amount.

I would never pay a Deposit but if I even thought about it, I would have had to meet the WG a good few times (but even that would raise questions) but l would'nt pay.

AW needs to get this profile taken down immediately.

IMO, The WG has been extremely naive in not changing her Login Details once she was no longer available 

I legit think I have found his real identity though. 😄

[shamblesandadisgrace]

the cashapp username which was previously £borakorean, now shows in the app as 'Eyelashes UK'

[Jstar77]

the cashapp username which was previously £borakorean, now shows in the app as 'Eyelashes UK'

Hahah, he is definitely reading this thread and trying to cover his tracks

[Jstar77]

Omg, I’m like 60-70% sure I have found him. I found a guy I thought aligns with stuff I know for a fact about him. I saw a birthdate too and I asked Bora just now if he ever mentioned his birthday(without mentioning what I found). And guess what the guy I found has birthday in the same month and the age aligns too. As well as ethnicity, city and name.

[FiveKnuckles]

Omg, I’m like 60-70% sure I have found him. I found a guy I thought aligns with stuff I know for a fact about him. I saw a birthdate too and I asked Bora just now if he ever mentioned his birthday(without mentioning what I found). And guess what the guy I found has birthday in the same month and the age aligns too. As well as ethnicity, city and name.

Well if he is reading this thread, he better unblock those he scammed and find a way to return the deposits. 


Little story on a hobby forum I use to visit.  A scammer sold an item multiple times as the buyers never wrote a confirmation post saying they bought the item.  After a little man hunt, they managed to find pictures of the scammer and his Facebook page linking the other half and friends.
Some tech guru then setup a web domain using the scammers name and SEO.  Typing the guys name and you'd be presented with a web link showing the guys pics and how he scammed   
He contacted the forum administrators straight away to square things up, in exchange for the website to be removed.   After he returned the stolen monies, the website was removed, but many wanted to teach the scammer a lesson by keeping it active 


If you're 60-70% sure you know the guy, start collecting those pictures, family/friend Facebook pages.  I'm sure those out of pocket would spend £10 on a custom domain and host it all on a free web server. .

[FiveKnuckles]

Privacy rules don't apply to thieves as per rule 22

If the WG is confirmed to be in Korea, the clock is ticking for the scamming 'wannabee' pimp to be named and shamed after mods/admin approve. Their real name will forever be found on ukp 

Friends, family, employers searching his name will find this thread.   If I were the scammer, I wouldn't chance having my real name placed here and would pro-actively sort things before the SHTF

[Billy no mates]

I have not read the whole thread, just a skim.

Can I ask that people do not start posting private details about a potential scammer, and their friends and family, without receiving PRIOR authorisation from UKP site owners or a MOD.

To start the ball rolling, and before you do start the ball rolling be sure you have your facts 100% straight, report your post, using the report button and explain the situation there.

Good luck to those scammed I hope you get your money back.

[daviemac]

Nobody is posting anyone's real names until this whole thread has been looked into. In the mean time if anyone feels they have been the victim of a theft they should report it to the police. Though I believe keeping a deposit and not providing services is a civil matter.

[Jeffers77]

I legit think I have found his real identity though. 😄

UKPunting will be able to get his IP addresses also...

Omg, I’m like 60-70% sure I have found him. I found a guy I thought aligns with stuff I know for a fact about him. I saw a birthdate too and I asked Bora just now if he ever mentioned his birthday(without mentioning what I found). And guess what the guy I found has birthday in the same month and the age aligns too. As well as ethnicity, city and name.

 

[daviemac]

UKPunting will be able to get his IP addresses also...

 

How do you think UKP can get the IP address of someone Jstar77 is only 60-70% is the right person, they would need to have posted on here to find that. 

[Jeffers77]

How do you think UKP can get the IP address of someone Jstar77 is only 60-70% is the right person, they would need to have posted on here to find that. 

The presumption being the shill that pushed Bora not so long ago (that got banned) was the guy in question.

[shamblesandadisgrace]

Profile is live again. Set to distribute content only.

[Atrueyorkie]

I’m very surprised there’s no AW feedback on this