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http://www.privatetouches4u.com/gallery.html

She say's a LEGAL escort, works in a LEGAL place and has a page dedicated to the LAW about prostitution.
But she seems to totally ignore the law on copyright by having stolen pics in her gallery. If that's not bad enough, she's added her own copyright marks on the pics  :rolleyes:

http://www.tineye.com/search/6631467476aa1c06e41a1229a8e43098ebe4db58/
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for file: http://www.privatetouches4u.com/galleries/gemma/10.jpg

Offline gemma

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I have full copyright on these pictures people are using my pictures I worked and still do work for pretty polly so they are all my pictures, please take your comment of regarding me stealing copyright as your comments are slander.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 08:06:04 PM by gemma »

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I have full copyright on these pictures people are using my pictures I worked and still do work for pretty polly so they are all my pictures, please take your comment of regarding me stealing copyright as your comments are very liable.

His comments are liable to what?

And on the subject of copyright, did you take / create the images in question as well as appear in them?

Otherwise you having copyright would be somewhat unusual, it is of course possible for a model to have permission to use images of herself, but unlikely that she herself would own the copyright.

Offline Matium

The Tineye results are pretty damning against you, Gemma.

How do you explain them?

Offline gemma

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I work for the company that took the photographs they have given me permission to use them

Offline Matium

I work for the company that took the photographs they have given me permission to use them

So they're not actually photos of you? Gemma, dear, you have no copyright whatsoever.

 :lol:
« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 08:14:18 PM by Matium »

Online James999

I work for the company that took the photographs they have given me permission to use them

That is not the same as owning copyright as I pointed out above.

In fact by Adding the copyright statement to the images if you do not own the copytight is in itself a breach of copyright, as such even if the pictures are of you, and you have permission to use them, your copyright statement could mean you are in breach of copyright legislation.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 08:16:02 PM by James999 »

Offline gemma

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As I pointed out above the pictures are of me 

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As I pointed out above the pictures are of me

That has no relevance to copyright.

Offline PandorasBox

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As a model you may have permission to use the photographs but the copyright is always owned by the photographer. Even if you've paid for the shoot. The photographer still owns the copyright.
There is no exception to that rule.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 08:25:06 PM by PandorasBox »

Online James999

The model may have permission to use photographs but the copyright is always owned by the photographer. Even if you've paid for the shoot. The photographer still owns the copyright. There is no exception to that rule.

Good start but you got a bit carried away at the end and spoilt it. but 8 / 10 for effort

Offline PandorasBox

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Good start but you got a bit carried away at the end and spoilt it. but 8 / 10 for effort

Unless the model did not sign a model release form and the photographer has signed something saying the model can do what they wish with the photographs, I don't see how that is wrong.
And to be honest, no real professional photographer would give away his work for a model to edit, and do what they want with.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 08:30:24 PM by PandorasBox »

Online James999

Unless the model did not sign a model release form and the photographer has signed something saying the model can do what they wish with the photographs, I don't see how that is wrong.

Model release forms have little relevance in the Uk and have nothing to do with copyright.

As for your statement above re copyright, the copyright normally resides with the photographer as you say, however if the photographer was employed (not on a contract basis) by a company (lets say coca cola so as not to be contentious) and the potographer creates images of the coke cans at work then the copyright belongs to Coca Cola. If however coca cola commissioned a freelance photographer to take the images the freelance photographer would own copyright and a usage agreement would probably be put in place linked to royalties etc.


Offline PandorasBox

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Model release forms have little relevance in the Uk and have nothing to do with copyright.

As for your statement above re copyright, the copyright normally resides with the photographer as you say, however if the photographer was employed (not on a contract basis) by a company (lets say coca cola so as not to be contentious) and the potographer creates images of the coke cans at work then the copyright belongs to Coca Cola. If however coca cola commissioned a freelance photographer to take the images the freelance photographer would own copyright and a usage agreement would probably be put in place linked to royalties etc.

I see. Of course.

Model release forms do have relevance though, not with copyright. But if a photographer is doing adult style work that is intended to be sold on to sites and magazines, the model has to sign a model release form. It's also important for confirming legal age requirements.

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I see. Of course.

Model release forms do have relevance though, not with copyright. But if a photographer is doing adult style work that is intended to be sold on to sites and magazines, the model has to sign a model release form. It's also important for confirming legal age requirements.

you are moving the debate on, Model releases as I said have limited use in the UK, however if there is porn to be distributed workldwide then there are additional requirements, particularly with rgeard to the USA.

Mr Jones (for example)  take a picture of you (for example) and plaster it all over the net without asking yoru permission or getting you to sign any release,

Offline PandorasBox

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i ou are moving the debate on, Model releases as I said have limited use in the UK, however if there is porn to be distributed workldwide then there are additional requirements, particularly with rgeard to the USA.

Mr Jones (for example)  take a picture of you (for example) and plaster it all over the net without asking yoru permission or getting you to sign any release,

I understand what you're saying.





Offline Strawberry

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I have recently been looking into this myself, and as James says copyright lies with the photographer. Model Release forms do not have to be signed.

Offline Cactus

My line of work does not involve photographs, however we do retain copyright on everything we produce despite the Client more often than not believing that they infact hold the copyright having paid fee's for the product.

Offline gemma

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Thanks guys for all your comment surely the most important thing is  that clients are in a safe legal clean house and that the pictures on the web site are of the lady there are going to see, clients I see have never asked in 7ys  regarding copyright on my pictures  as they know when they see me that my pictures are of me and the house is very private and I run a very professional service, and they are more than happy!!

read my reviews
http://www.privatetouches4u.com/test.html

They speak for themselves .

Online James999

Thanks guys for all your comment surely the most important thing is  that clients are in a safe legal clean house and that the pictures on the web site are of the lady there are going to see, clients I see have never asked in 7ys  regarding copyright on my pictures  as they know when they see me that my pictures are of me and the house is very private and I run a very professional service, and they are more than happy!!

read my reviews
http://www.PLEASE BOOK ME


It was you who claimed to own copyright when you clearly don't.

Nice way you try to change the thread into an advert for yourself though, and your Legal statement on your website clearly shows you know a lot less about the law than you pretend, as was evidenced with your first post on here where you spoke of "liable"  I assume you meant Libel., despite the fact it was not relevant.

Offline Matium

£1,500 a day!

What planet do you live on, Gemma?

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Online James999

£1,500 a day!

What planet do you live on, Gemma?

The Planet where the pics on the website are VERY old  :D

Offline gemma

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You seem to have a problem with professional women earning money as working girls, this seems to be the real issue with you.

http://www.privatetouches4u.com/gallery.html

She say's a LEGAL escort, works in a LEGAL place and has a page dedicated to the LAW about prostitution.
But she seems to totally ignore the law on copyright by having stolen pics in her gallery. If that's not bad enough, she's added her own copyright marks on the pics  :rolleyes:

http://www.tineye.com/search/6631467476aa1c06e41a1229a8e43098ebe4db58/
20 Results
Searched over 1.9884 billion images in 0.043 seconds.
for file: http://www.privatetouches4u.com/galleries/gemma/10.jpg

Apparently she doesn't accept anal on her behalf. Does she accept it on someone else's, I wonder?


Offline Matium

You seem to have a problem with professional women earning money as working girls, this seems to be the real issue with you.

There is a difference - professional women earning money pay tax, prostitutes do not.


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