Have you ever fallen in love with a WG?

[king tarzan]

There as a tribe somwhere were all the woman let all the men shag them so that no ones knows whos the father of any child so all the men join in looking after the children!

Pure undiluted slappers

[Bonker]

Well, you learn something every day.

Today, however, is an exception.

[s0whatsnew?]

There as a tribe somwhere were all the woman let all the men shag them so that no ones knows whos the father of any child so all the men join in looking after the children!

The border areas between S China, Vietnam, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand, etc.   Not one single tribe but a general norm in that area.   The Chinese authorities tried to clamp down on the practice but gave up around 20 years ago.   Its not quite the women  'letting' the men shag them, rather that relationships are assumed to be up to the people concerned without cultural interference.  As a result there's greater social harmony and democracy within local communities.  At the same time there's more inter-male jealousy and revenge taken on  'lover-theft'.  So it ain't all roses.   

[Dylanbob]

Not sure if its just me. I know no matter how good the encounter. I know its a simulation I guess, which sometimes may make it better.

[workinallweek]

Do not do it.
The issue does arise when a civvie girl you love has turned into an escort.

Sex wont be the same again, what makes these girls turn to escorting when they have everything going for them in thier civvie life.
Is thier anyway to make them give it up. Or is the cash simply too good.

I have worked it out, if a girl has a high paid office job and escorts. She can earn 5k a month.

a lot more than 5k  if she wants too and in the right area with London girls asking £200 an hour  ...

[pantywetter]

I’m a very hardened punter with a lot of experience and no interest in a relationship with a WG.

Even I ended up in one painful affair and (somewhat reciprocated) infatuation twice. 

It’s a risky business no matter how much you have your head screwed on.

My advice to everyone is to nip it in the bud at the first sign as it’s a huge head fuck.  I have a tiny bit of it now with a regular and may choose not to return. 

[Whiteknight]

My advice to everyone is to nip it in the bud at the first sign as it’s a huge head fuck.  I have a tiny bit of it now with a regular and may choose not to return.

Very good advice, I agree, get out from any initial signs 

[jimbobted]

I can only really see it working if you're a 'cuckold' and are turned on by the idea of your Mrs fucking other men even if it is for work and are comfortable being turned down for sex some nights as she's too tired from being ridden by other men some of whom will be more handsome, better hung and better lovers than you.

I'm not so sure about that, there are all sorts in the world.
One of my recent reviews told me that her sexual adventures were driven/suggested by her husband, started with swinging and then progressed to onlyfans, then a bit of occasional escorting as a couple, and now she's a full time hooker whilst he stays home, has his professional job and looks after the kids. Apparently he's dominant sexually, so definitely no cuckold.
I guess he gets some kind of kick out of it.

I have had EAS a couple of times. I recognise it starting now and as said above, nip it in the bud. If I find myself thinking about a WG in the days after a punt that's a danger sign. My usual cure is to book someone else and definitely NOT book the same girl again.
And remember 99% of the time the things that might be said to make you feel special are to make you come back. Not because she genuinely has feelings, but because she wants more business. No different to the obsequious staff at a posh hotel or restaurant. They do t genuinely give a shit, just want rich punters booking again for the overpriced meals and accommodation.

[JonasG]

I'm not so sure about that, there are all sorts in the world.
One of my recent reviews told me that her sexual adventures were driven/suggested by her husband, started with swinging and then progressed to onlyfans, then a bit of occasional escorting as a couple, and now she's a full time hooker whilst he stays home, has his professional job and looks after the kids. Apparently he's dominant sexually, so definitely no cuckold.
I guess he gets some kind of kick out of it.

I have had EAS a couple of times. I recognise it starting now and as said above, nip it in the bud. If I find myself thinking about a WG in the days after a punt that's a danger sign. My usual cure is to book someone else and definitely NOT book the same girl again.
And remember 99% of the time the things that might be said to make you feel special are to make you come back. Not because she genuinely has feelings, but because she wants more business. No different to the obsequious staff at a posh hotel or restaurant. They do t genuinely give a shit, just want rich punters booking again for the overpriced meals and accommodation.

Spot on.

I actually get a bit annoyed when escorts compliment me lol, it's so unnecessary and irritating.

I will come back and see you again if you gave a good service not because you said I was handsome and that you love my big cock or any of the other rubbish they've come out with.

I find it patronising.

[jimbobted]

Exactly. I have seen some girls multiple times, but always because I enjoyed fucking them and not because of any faux flattery. In fact fake anything, be that orgasms, moaning or compliments are pretty much deal killers for me returning regardless of how hit the girl is.

Yeah I tend to call it out now, in a jokey way and say something "Aww shucks, you're too kind but I bet you say that to all the boys".
Last one persisted, even whatsapping me randomly till I told her I knew what she was doing, she got a bit defensive but did admit she was just touting for business. Then continued to tell me she liked me anyway 

[Atrueyorkie]

Exactly. I have seen some girls multiple times, but always because I enjoyed fucking them and not because of any faux flattery. In fact fake anything, be that orgasms, moaning or compliments are pretty much deal killers for me returning regardless of how hit the girl is.

Yeah I tend to call it out now, in a jokey way and say something "Aww shucks, you're too kind but I bet you say that to all the boys".
Last one persisted, even whatsapping me randomly till I told her I knew what she was doing, she got a bit defensive but did admit she was just touting for business. Then continued to tell me she liked me anyway 

Should have asked her for a free session and then see her reaction 

[MysteryManNo.7]

Exactly. I have seen some girls multiple times, but always because I enjoyed fucking them and not because of any faux flattery. In fact fake anything, be that orgasms, moaning or compliments are pretty much deal killers for me returning regardless of how hit the girl is.

Yeah I tend to call it out now, in a jokey way and say something "Aww shucks, you're too kind but I bet you say that to all the boys".
Last one persisted, even whatsapping me randomly till I told her I knew what she was doing, she got a bit defensive but did admit she was just touting for business. Then continued to tell me she liked me anyway 

I have no doubt at all that SPs will have clients they prefer to see over others but won't offer them any sort of incentive to do so. That being said I have had multiple girls I've seen a few times see me for a discounted rate which is nice.

They're not always lying when they compliment clients but you're absolutely right to be on the defensive and understand they are at the end of the day doing this for money. As I've explained earlier on this topic I've no fear of EAS as been there, done that with a SP a few years ago and have no urge at all to get entangled again. The whole reason I do this is for no strings attached, no emotional attached sex.

[oddson1970]

l don't mind it when the SP gives me compliments but l don't read anything into it at all....its all part of the game

[IAmNotFamous]

How to tell when the compliments are true?

One said “I have a beautiful body” (I do work out with toned muscles) so took that as fact.

But things that boost the ego like “you’re good at sex” one has to take with a pinch of salt or “you made me cum” ?

Back on topic, I haven’t thought about the SP for a long while now so may have overcome the EAS (banging a porn star helped lol)

[MysteryManNo.7]

How to tell when the compliments are true?

One said “I have a beautiful body” (I do work out with toned muscles) so took that as fact.

But things that boost the ego like “you’re good at sex” one has to take with a pinch of salt or “you made me cum” ?

Back on topic, I haven’t thought about the SP for a long while now so may have overcome the EAS (banging a porn star helped lol)

You can't. They're nice sure and sometimes will be genuine but it won't make me want to see her again. I will see her again if I had a good time and she's good in bed. Personality absolutely makes a difference and Is something I look for, a down to earth woman I can have a pleasant conversation with during the booking but I do not see any of these women as relationship material and never will.

[Punterperson1971]

How to tell when the compliments are true?

One said “I have a beautiful body” (I do work out with toned muscles) so took that as fact.

But things that boost the ego like “you’re good at sex” one has to take with a pinch of salt or “you made me cum” ?

Back on topic, I haven’t thought about the SP for a long while now so may have overcome the EAS (banging a porn star helped lol)

I’ve had one or 2 call me sexy one was a Bulgarian who I reviewed and one is a regular who makes the comment every session,but that’s as far as it goes I just carry on even though we click and get on I’d never cross that line .

[Dogfather]

You can't. They're nice sure and sometimes will be genuine but it won't make me want to see her again. I will see her again if I had a good time and she's good in bed. Personality absolutely makes a difference and Is something I look for, a down to earth woman I can have a pleasant conversation with during the booking but I do not see any of these women as relationship material and never will.

Could the next relationship you get into be with a girl who had been an escort for a while and doesn't bother to inform you?
With this hobby knowledge it has to give you at least a doubt with anyone? Is SA too much? What about OF?

As quoted by others on here the simple way to know if a WG likes you is if you are fucking for free.
Known as "upgrading client to FWB". You wouldn't have to do anything as she will make it happen.
Otherwise take the compliment and then ignore it.

[JonasG]

I’ve had one or 2 call me sexy one was a Bulgarian who I reviewed and one is a regular who makes the comment every session,but that’s as far as it goes I just carry on even though we click and get on I’d never cross that line .

What I've noticed is that they sort of give sort of exaggerations which may seem plausible. A lot of over-egging.

So, if you aren't obviously ugly they'll say oh you're attractive/handsome. If you don't have an obviously small cock it'll be oh baby big cock etc. And so on.

Maybe some guys do love the fake compliments and they've noticed they return after giving them. Who knows. So, they keep the shtick for other clients.

[MysteryManNo.7]

Could the next relationship you get into be with a girl who had been an escort for a while and doesn't bother to inform you?
With this hobby knowledge it has to give you at least a doubt with anyone? Is SA too much? What about OF?

As quoted by others on here the simple way to know if a WG likes you is if you are fucking for free.
Known as "upgrading client to FWB". You wouldn't have to do anything as she will make it happen.
Otherwise take the compliment and then ignore it.

No I would not date a woman who was an ex sex worker or had an OF, not sure what SA means sorry. Especially if she was a former SW and didn't tell me up front that would be a relationship ender as its a relationship built upon a lie.

I don't think free sex is the only way to tell a WG likes you though that has happened to me alongside discounts. I do as you say take the compliment but I don't read into it at all.

As I have said previously, I am there for no strings attached, emotional or otherwise, sex and the financial transaction is a very important part of this.

[king tarzan]

No I would not date a woman who was an ex sex worker or had an OF, not sure what SA means sorry. Especially if she was a former SW and didn't tell me up front that would be a relationship ender as its a relationship built upon a lie.

I don't think free sex is the only way to tell a WG likes you though that has happened to me alongside discounts. I do as you say take the compliment but I don't read into it at all.

As I have said previously, I am there for no strings attached, emotional or otherwise, sex and the financial transaction is a very important part of this.

Great solid 🐅❤️

[JontyR]

Genuinely interested abotu those that are worried about the honesty in a relationship with a current or previous SP...are you specifically open about your interactions in the world of paid for sex?

[IAmNotFamous]

Genuinely interested abotu those that are worried about the honesty in a relationship with a current or previous SP...are you specifically open about your interactions in the world of paid for sex?

We can pivot this question. We talk about work to our loved ones. Should SW be any different? “How was work today?” “Oh it was busy, almost had a work place injury but other than that I’m good”

[MysteryManNo.7]

Genuinely interested abotu those that are worried about the honesty in a relationship with a current or previous SP...are you specifically open about your interactions in the world of paid for sex?

No because it's not the same thing. I don't want to go down this rabbit hole and yes it may well not be fair but paying for sex as a man to me is not the same as selling it as a woman.

[JontyR]

No because it's not the same thing. I don't want to go down this rabbit hole and yes it may well not be fair but paying for sex as a man to me is not the same as selling it as a woman.

The acts may not be the same thing, but the deliberate witholding of info because of the potential reaction is. Not having a go, I wouldn't be going on about my history too much, I'd be thinking that its the future thats important and not the past.

[IAmNotFamous]

The acts may not be the same thing, but the deliberate witholding of info because of the potential reaction is. Not having a go, I wouldn't be going on about my history too much, I'd be thinking that its the future thats important and not the past.

This….focus on the present to set up a good future.

[Doc Holliday]

As quoted by others on here the simple way to know if a WG likes you is if you are fucking for free.
Known as "upgrading client to FWB". You wouldn't have to do anything as she will make it happen.
Otherwise take the compliment and then ignore it.

It really is that simple and it has been said a thousand times. Compliments, discounts, extra time etc at best means she 'likes you' from a business perspective and hopes you will return.

She may even genuinely orgasm when with you. Still doesn't mean she likes you 

There may a sexual attraction and it progresses to fuckbuddy  ... enjoy while it lasts ... still doesn't mean she loves you!!

What is common though, is one sided infatuation, resulting in delusional behaviour.

[Iloveoral]

So not quite punting but close, I went to spearmint rhino years ago
Got this faf girls lap dancing me, she said shall I keep dancing I said why not, fucking pulled her, awesome!!!!

My mate said wtf are you doing hogging her, I’m like what?
She said you owe £120 for the dances I’m Like oh ok
 
She’s 5 mins later dancing with another bloke I’m like wtf? She’s with me ?

Don’t drink and dance boys and girls, I looked a bit of a twat 

[jimbobted]

So not quite punting but close, I went to spearmint rhino years ago
Got this faf girls lap dancing me, she said shall I keep dancing I said why not, fucking pulled her, awesome!!!!

My mate said wtf are you doing hogging her, I’m like what?
She said you owe £120 for the dances I’m Like oh ok
 
She’s 5 mins later dancing with another bloke I’m like wtf? She’s with me ?

Don’t drink and dance boys and girls, I looked a bit of a twat 

Years ago at a Spearmint Rhino on a stag do we all spent far too much money on dances and shit "champagne". One particular bird told my eye and I spent a lot of time (and money) with her.
I was very very drink, so I'm not sure how it came about but she took my number and was allegedly going to pop into my hotel after her shift for some more intimate action (I doubt I'd have been capable but anyhoo). This was near closing time and I don't think I had any more dances after that.
Of course there was no knack at the door.
But a few days later, up pops "someone you may know" on Facebook. The lap dancer! So she had actually put it into her phone.

Fuck knows what she took my number for 

[Payyourwaymate]

We can pivot this question. We talk about work to our loved ones. Should SW be any different? “How was work today?” “Oh it was busy, almost had a work place injury but other than that I’m good”

It's not the same. You don't want to be in a situation where she is trying her best to convince you it's just work and you believe her but still cannot accept it. You don't want to deal with that level of stress trust me.

[nigel4498]

Obviously I have as I would never fuck a woman I didn't love 

[eats_shoots_leaves]

I haven't fallen in love per-se - but I've managed to become dependent on 2-3 SP's to be my support network which is about as toxic.

Basically some shit happened in my life, I lost all confidence/self-esteem, and shed friends because either they got tired of me being a miserable sod, or because I pushed them away because I didn't deserve them etc etc -a proper downward spiral. I tried an SP or two and whilst initially it wasn't satisfying (anonymous sex isn't my thing) I discovered that paying money removed any need to be valuable or feel valuable, and the one thing that SP's are _really_ _really_ good at is making someone feel accepted no matter what. This was like a pot of gold for me, and I hunted around until i found 2-3 SP's who were happy with my desires of long, relaxed meets, lots of chatting and generally being friendly/supportive. Yes there was sex because sex is fun - but a 2 hour meet for me might be 20 min on the bed and the rest on the couch. I was literally buying friends and paying them by the hour. Talk about how to trap yourself in an impossible spiral. I had no non-SP friends I trusted to tell things (especially about SP's) - so there I was believing the only friends I had who understood me were the ones I was paying to play that role.

This may be complete bollocks - but really for me it doesn't matter as the illusion is all that mattered anyway - butI did get to know those 2-3 fairly well and I think even if it wasn't friendship there was a good understanding of each other to some level - we would quite often sit talking shit long after time was up (outcall) and such, and I fooled myself into thinking that maybe it was an okay middle ground. It really wasn't though - the most recent example being I had some seriously bad news and just knew I shouldn't be sitting at home on my own - and the only option I really had (and the one I took) was to call a SP I knew, and pay them to come over and keep me company. That's the problem right there - staying after a meet is one thing, but that's not friendship.

So I've literally just messaged them saying I won't be paying them any more - I completely expect that to be the last I hear from them and that's fine - at least I've broken the spell and as much as I'm feeling like shit and pretty alone right now I do feel a lot better, so onwards and upwards, and maybe this tale might resonate with someone else one day.

And no - I'm not reviewing those 2-3 - this post is a screaming indicator as to who I am should I then review them

[eats_shoots_leaves]

Fake edit - the worst thing about the above is I was totally 100% aware of it - and hated myself for it, but couldn't find a way out. It reads as a pathetic story, but it's amazing what people will start to believe in when it feels like all hope is lost

[jimbobted]

Bloody hell. Hope things get better for you but it sounds like you've made some positive changes.
Consider seeing a therapist if you need someone to talk to. I have done twice in the past for a couple of specific issues (well, one which then recurred) and if you get the right one it can be a bit help. Way cheaper than paying a WG too.

[Thephoenix]

Fake edit - the worst thing about the above is I was totally 100% aware of it - and hated myself for it, but couldn't find a way out. It reads as a pathetic story, but it's amazing what people will start to believe in when it feels like all hope is lost

I really hope that posting your experiences helps you to move forward.
Writing your problems down can be a good way to clear your mind and analyse your feelings more clearly, so I'm sure you're on the road to taking back control of your situation.
It also gives us a valuable insight into another aspect of how our emotional vulnerability can have a major effect on our relationship with SPs.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I'm not in a position to offer advice as I've not been in your situation.
Others who've had similar experiences may be able to. 

[eats_shoots_leaves]

Update after telling them all

1) "okay cool, if I'm in the area we should grab coffee"
2) "okay cool, if I'm in the area we should grab coffee"
3) "but but but but my boyfriend won't let me fuck you if you''re not paying, that's not fair!"

... something's not right here 

[king tarzan]

I haven't fallen in love per-se - but I've managed to become dependent on 2-3 SP's to be my support network which is about as toxic.

Basically some shit happened in my life, I lost all confidence/self-esteem, and shed friends because either they got tired of me being a miserable sod, or because I pushed them away because I didn't deserve them etc etc -a proper downward spiral. I tried an SP or two and whilst initially it wasn't satisfying (anonymous sex isn't my thing) I discovered that paying money removed any need to be valuable or feel valuable, and the one thing that SP's are _really_ _really_ good at is making someone feel accepted no matter what. This was like a pot of gold for me, and I hunted around until i found 2-3 SP's who were happy with my desires of long, relaxed meets, lots of chatting and generally being friendly/supportive. Yes there was sex because sex is fun - but a 2 hour meet for me might be 20 min on the bed and the rest on the couch. I was literally buying friends and paying them by the hour. Talk about how to trap yourself in an impossible spiral. I had no non-SP friends I trusted to tell things (especially about SP's) - so there I was believing the only friends I had who understood me were the ones I was paying to play that role.

This may be complete bollocks - but really for me it doesn't matter as the illusion is all that mattered anyway - butI did get to know those 2-3 fairly well and I think even if it wasn't friendship there was a good understanding of each other to some level - we would quite often sit talking shit long after time was up (outcall) and such, and I fooled myself into thinking that maybe it was an okay middle ground. It really wasn't though - the most recent example being I had some seriously bad news and just knew I shouldn't be sitting at home on my own - and the only option I really had (and the one I took) was to call a SP I knew, and pay them to come over and keep me company. That's the problem right there - staying after a meet is one thing, but that's not friendship.

So I've literally just messaged them saying I won't be paying them any more - I completely expect that to be the last I hear from them and that's fine - at least I've broken the spell and as much as I'm feeling like shit and pretty alone right now I do feel a lot better, so onwards and upwards, and maybe this tale might resonate with someone else one day.

And no - I'm not reviewing those 2-3 - this post is a screaming indicator as to who I am should I then review them

Over sensitive, insecure, thin skinned, Melo dramatic...

No traits of a man what so ever..

[Punterperson1971]

Where as addidas loving kourus loving god to all women,are all the traits a women needs in a man that means 99.9% of the male population will be ruled out then
 
Just KT and some of his homies left
Oh and KT it’s ok for men to cry and not be macho sometimes

[IAmNotFamous]

I really hope that posting your experiences helps you to move forward.
Writing your problems down can be a good way to clear your mind and analyse your feelings more clearly, so I'm sure you're on the road to taking back control of your situation.
It also gives us a valuable insight into another aspect of how our emotional vulnerability can have a major effect on our relationship with SPs.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I'm not in a position to offer advice as I've not been in your situation.
Others who've had similar experiences may be able to. 

This is so true. It also allows other forum members to offer their experience, which could be a learning for the OP and other users 👍🏼

[eats_shoots_leaves]

Over sensitive, insecure, thin skinned, Melo dramatic...

No traits of a man what so ever..

I mean - you're not wrong in the first line, the second one is questionable

I am definitely on the road to recovery mentally - which is why I've been able to sever this without too much thought now. It's definitely about moving forward and finding myself again - but that's a post for a mental health forum not a punting one.

I posted it in the hope that maybe someone does come across it and realises that there are more possibilities than just developing romantic feelings. I appreciate the supportive messages also.

[Iloveoral]

Over sensitive, insecure, thin skinned, Melo dramatic...

No traits of a man what so ever..

Play nicely with the other kids please

Mental health is a serious issue and I hope letting him air off his situation has helped, glad to hear he’s on the right path forward, though I’d agree with the guys, a therapist would probably be a good shout. 

[Iloveoral]

I mean - you're not wrong in the first line, the second one is questionable

I am definitely on the road to recovery mentally - which is why I've been able to sever this without too much thought now. It's definitely about moving forward and finding myself again - but that's a post for a mental health forum not a punting one.

I posted it in the hope that maybe someone does come across it and realises that there are more possibilities than just developing romantic feelings. I appreciate the supportive messages also.

Glad you posted, it may help others and that’s what this forum is about, helping others
Good luck moving forward matey looks like your finding yourself. 

Don’t worry about KT I’ll ban him if you like haha? 

[eats_shoots_leaves]

Don’t worry about KT I’ll ban him if you like haha? 

Nahh that'll just make him feel justified 

[daviemac]

I mean - you're not wrong in the first line, the second one is questionable

I am definitely on the road to recovery mentally - which is why I've been able to sever this without too much thought now. It's definitely about moving forward and finding myself again - but that's a post for a mental health forum not a punting one.

I posted it in the hope that maybe someone does come across it and realises that there are more possibilities than just developing romantic feelings. I appreciate the supportive messages also.

Take no notice of KT, just put him on ignore like loads of other members have.

[Iloveoral]

Nahh that'll just make him feel justified 

[lillythesavage]

Over sensitive, insecure, thin skinned, Melo dramatic...

No traits of a man what so ever..

You really are a nasty keyboard warrior, and not very bright either.

Stick to curry ingredients, you know something about that, you very obviously know nothing about life.

[jesse4585]

Glad you posted, it may help others and that’s what this forum is about, helping others

Indeed. @ Eats_Shoots , thanks for sharing & glad to hear things have been improving for you. Please ignore the below if it doesnt seem helpful, obs I dont know you that well.   My take is, maybe as a short term solution getting emotional support from SPs may not have been such a bad move.

I mean, how many blokes have friends that they can be fully emotionally open with? According to various surveys, about 20% of middle aged men dont have any close friends at all.  I'm lucky to still be in touch with some of my school mates - but we've not had an emotion sharing conversation for 20+ years. We just have fun doing things together & sometimes help each other out with practical things.  But not with anything emotional since our twenties.  I dont think it's a common blokes trait to do that.

It's good to know we're all mixed bags. Like Im sure sometimes I'm more 'annoying' than valued to my old school mates. And also sometimes they'll be thinking more of what they can get out of me of any caring thoughts.   And likewise, while the +ve things we punters get from WGs may depend on money - it's still the case that many will have some genuine care for us, & genuinely enjoy parts of their time with us.

Which is not to say unpaid friendships arent more important - of course they are, & I hope you soon make some new mates or patch things up with your old ones.   But might be a tall order to find a male friend who's good for emotional sharing, if you ever feel a need for that again in the future. (And sharing everything with a civie GF doesnt always ends well, at least in my experience.)  Maybe a proper therapist is best of all - but can need a bit of luck to find a good one.  From the update you shared, at least it looks like you'd have the option to go back to any of those 3 SPs, if ever you feel you could see them without feeling bad about it like you did before.

[king tarzan]

You really are a nasty keyboard warrior, and not very bright either.

Stick to curry ingredients, you know something about that, you very obviously know nothing about life.

What you need is a chicken Madras will help you let out all your confused demons..👍👍👍

[Punterperson1971]

What you need is a chicken Madras will help you let out all your confused demons..👍👍👍

Your just an insensitive knobhead at times KT not everyone is a macho man it’s ok to express feelings you know

[southcoastpunter]

I mean, how many blokes have friends that they can be fully emotionally open with? According to various surveys, about 20% of middle aged men dont have any close friends at all.  I'm lucky to still be in touch with some of my school mates - but we've not had an emotion sharing conversation for 20+ years. We just have fun doing things together & sometimes help each other out with practical things.  But not with anything emotional since our twenties.  I dont think it's a common blokes trait to do that.

you are right there - at least i think that is the case for guys of a certain age - maybe 55+. I have a number of male friends i have known from school days but not sure I would feel comfortable even with them.

I also have a couple of women friends (just friends) that i have known for 20+ years and a few gay guys I have known for a number of years and (strangely?) I would feel more comfortable talking about these sort of issues with them than my old school friends or my football/pub mates!

Must try to remember that these days guys don't have to be "tough" all the time and its OK to talk about "feelings" etc.

[MissWolf]

Your just an insensitive knobhead at times KT not everyone is a macho man it’s ok to express feelings you know

It's not easy for a man to open up to other men and to show his feelings and vulnerability and I applaud those that do.
They are more of a man than and little keyboard twat like KT

In life we can be many things but mostly we can be kind, it  costs nothing