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Author Topic: Question: how to setup multiple Adultwork accounts and not have them linked  (Read 8908 times)

galinsoga

My question was inspired by seeing a line in a post by Infoseeker in which he indicated that he had several AW Accounts.

Quote from: infoseeker on August 05, 2014, 03:47:53 pm
I've probably got more adultwork accounts then she has cats, all with enough feedback built up that they'd merit a booking request from the fussiest escort.
With enough IT knowledge and computers to ensure they don't get linked.
With associated punting numbers and punting names too.

I have real reasons for wanting more than one AW account.  First I may leave negative feedback after seeing a girl and, as some will be aware, the girls sometimes retaliate by leaving negative feedback for the punter.  I have rather a good feedback record and I would not like that to be spoiled.  Second - I rather suspect a GF knows my profile name and there will be occasions when I do not want her to see what I have been up to in terms of visiting other places.

I would have thought that AW (and UKPunting) would pick up the IP or other addresses when you register an account and more than one registration per IP or whatever would be frowned on. 

Over to you Infoseeker - answers in English please for an IT pillock

Gali

Offline Gordo987

I suppose its not too difficult to set up fake accounts as service providers as well as punters and that they could give each other ratings and positive FRs.
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Offline infoseeker

Hi galinsoga

Thanks for your query.

My experience and testing is that Adultwork do not currently link by IP alone.

So you just need to use different web browsers for the different accounts you setup and make sure never to forget which account is for which web browser.

eg

Mozilla Firefox - galinsoga
Internet Explorer - liverpoolpuntingexpedition
Google Chrome - superpunterforashortwhileatleast

There is evidence to indicate (from posts that I have read on the forum) that Adultwork used to in the past link account simply based on IP and that would be inconvenient to get around (possible but not worth the effort) but my experience is that they don't do it currently.

If you ever want to check if your accounts have become linked (which is called an "alias" on Adultwork speech) send a message to the inbox of a working girl friend and ask here whether it shows an alias on your account, if it does then there will be a number next to the number for your feedback showing how many aliases you have.

There is a good write up on what aliases look like on the side of escorts on this girls blog (who has in the past been criticised on here a lot for her high prices and prolific blogging including on Christmas day).
https://www.adultwork.com/1239480
Check her blog entry
Saturday, April 19th 2014
ALIASES & NO ESCORT FEEDBACK - Pandora x
I include a screenshot of the relevant Info for ease of reference in the next post.
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Offline infoseeker



Thanks to NewIndependent aka Pandora for that helpful Info.  :drinks:
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Offline infoseeker

So it is quite simple overall to setup multiple Adultwork accounts.
The issue is ensuring they don't get linked.

and make sure never to forget which account is for which web browser.

And this bit will be suprisingly hard and you only need to mess up once for all that hard work to go down the drain and get your seperate accounts linked.
As a practical suggestion I suggest you rename the Adultwork link/favourite/bookmark that you have in a given browser to the name of the Adultwork account you use on that browser to act as a reminder prompt.

So in this case I am using Google Chrome only with my Adultwork account superpunterforashortwhileatleast so have renamed my bookmark accordingly.  (Note I don't really use Google Chrome for anything else (on that computer) anyway so that is why it only has an Adultwork link in and nothing else).

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Offline infoseeker

Assuming your computer is Windows then you likely have INTERNET EXPLORER installed.

Then you need to download and install other browsers

MOZILLA FIREFOX
https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new

GOOGLE CHROME
http://www.google.co.uk/chrome

So with those three browsers on one laptop you can have three unlinked Adultwork accounts.
I doubt you need more then three unlinked Adultwork accounts.
BUT
There are other web browsers out there as well and of course you can have more then one laptop, or even just the same laptop but just switch harddrives if you have an easily accessible one which I do (just plug it in and out since I have in unscrewed).
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Offline infoseeker

I suppose its not too difficult to set up fake accounts as service providers as well as punters and that they could give each other ratings and positive FRs.

The Info provided above just relates to Seeking Services accounts which never interact with one another.
There could be further levels of security employed by Adultwork if two accounts with the same IP interact with one being Seeking Services and another being a Offering Services even if they are from different browsers.
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Offline infoseeker

Any follow up Queries please let me know.
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Offline JV547845

They can really only track your IP address which can be changed by off/on ing your router, log the browser string, which you can use multiple browsers or an app for, compare the email address you register each account to, potentially compare PWs (this would be very bad practise) and try to give you a cookie, so use incognito mode / in private browsing. 

Offline infoseeker

Had a PM about this.

If you already use one of the three internet browsers above for specific purposes.
Other internet browsers are

OPERA
http://www.opera.com

SAFARI
http://www.apple.com/safari

To ensure you do not accidentally mix things up it is probably safer to specifically install a new browser you don't already use just for that specific Adultwork account purposes.
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They can really only track your IP address which can be changed by off/on ing your router, log the browser string, which you can use multiple browsers or an app for, compare the email address you register each account to, potentially compare PWs (this would be very bad practise) and try to give you a cookie, so use incognito mode / in private browsing.

I use private browsing in Firefox and Safari sometimes but where do you set "incognito mode" ?

Offline huskyone

I use private browsing in Firefox and Safari sometimes but where do you set "incognito mode" ?
  It's the Chrome browser wording.. "New Incognito Window"  It's the same as you are used to with Private Window in other browsers already.

Offline infoseeker

Personally I would be wary of thinking that Private Browsing / Incognito mode etc would ensure that accounts do not get linked unless you can confirm that by trial.

Also using such features may also diminish your browsing experience somewhat.
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Offline JV547845

Personally I would be wary of thinking that Private Browsing / Incognito mode etc would ensure that accounts do not get linked unless you can confirm that by trial.

Also using such features may also diminish your browsing experience somewhat.

It just means one session can't be tied to the next via a cookie and if anyone uses your laptop they cna't find AW in your history.  There's no reduction in browsing experience, don't be ridiculous.

Offline infoseeker

It just means one session can't be tied to the next via a cookie and if anyone uses your laptop they cna't find AW in your history.  There's no reduction in browsing experience, don't be ridiculous.

I've not used such features and would personally never rely on them for my own online security and privacy, but as a general rule with IT, extra security always comes at the cost of lower functionality and convenience.

which can be changed by off/on ing your router

To my knowledge not every ISP provides a new IP address just by offing and oning the equipment, "don't be ridiculous".  ;)
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Offline JV547845

To my knowledge not every ISP provides a new IP address just by offing and oning the equipment, "don't be ridiculous".  ;)

It's easy to check by putting ip into google, but seeing as you've never even heard of porn mode browsing I wouldn't rely on anything you say.

It depends if your isp supplies a static or dynamically applied IP address, If its static, then rebooting your router will do nothing!

Offline huskyone

If people really want to prove that different accounts are all the same person and they are motivated and funded well enough, then they can and they will. A common IP address is one way yes, but there are many, many others too. If you want or need to have different accounts within any kind of setup (I don't) that's absolutely fine, but just because you are using private windows on different browsers and so on and so on, definitely does not guarantee 100% immunity. In the end, it would probably come down to what's being done (or has been done already) with those different accounts that would decide if it then becomes important enough for it to be proven :timeout:

A famous film quote was "Yes I'm paranoid.... but am I paranoid enough?" This maybe one way to approach multiple accounts within the same setup...

Offline infoseeker

It depends if your isp supplies a static or dynamically applied IP address, If its static, then rebooting your router will do nothing!

Thanks tantric talents, with VirginMedia and Cable fibre optic providers generally there is a chance that the IP address will not change
http://www.ipchicken.com
to check


Back to the core topic though.

OP just wanted another account to avoid getting his original ruined due to a retaliatory negative.
I have similar reasons.

This was just a low level discussion on making sure Adultwork accounts don't get linked, and different browsers I can confirm will do that and that is proven fact, practical fact.

Porn mode / Private Browsing / Incognito will probably do that too but I haven't confirmed that and I don't believe anyone on this thread has confirmed that.  You'd need a wg friend to check a message from you in her inbox.

There is a difference between a Proven and a Theoretical method.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2014, 08:58:46 PM by infoseeker »
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Offline virgil

The Info provided above just relates to Seeking Services accounts which never interact with one another.
There could be further levels of security employed by Adultwork if two accounts with the same IP interact with one being Seeking Services and another being a Offering Services even if they are from different browsers.

This interests me most because, possibly like others, occasionally a WG might be without a computer and ask you to change a detail such as her location.

That is one harmless activity that could get you aliased, I think, when you're not actually trying to con anyone.

Obviously a quite different situation with pimps and multiple phantom profiles, sheer scams etc.

This interests me most because, possibly like others, occasionally a WG might be without a computer and ask you to change a detail such as her location.

That is one harmless activity that could get you aliased, I think, when you're not actually trying to con anyone.

Obviously a quite different situation with pimps and multiple phantom profiles, sheer scams etc.

I wouldn't let anyone use my account, never mind a WG.

tcm

Offline infoseeker

This interests me most because, possibly like others, occasionally a WG might be without a computer and ask you to change a detail such as her location.

Has happened to me in the past after I logged into a WGs Adultwork account for her (she even told me the password!) on my computer using the same browser that I use for my at that time sole Adultwork account.  She wanted to upload pics that we took when she came to my place for an outcall (pics did not include me in!).
To make it worse her account had aliases some of them with negatives so I was also linked to them as well as hers ruining my account.
It was because of that I ended up trying to work out how accounts get linked and setting up alternative ones.

Her alias dropped off after 6 months.

I wouldn't let anyone use my account, never mind a WG.

As in my example I think virgil is referring to a WG logging into her own account but using his computer and/or internet connection.

Lesson from my experience is don't let WG use your computer it will be better for her and for you.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 09:12:42 PM by infoseeker »
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new user...but

websites generally track visitors and therefore multiple accounts if they want to by the use of potentially three things :-

1) Ip address
2) Cookies
3) what are known as flash cookies...

they may use some or all of those...I suspect from the content of the thread so far that AW use number 2) alone...

most Ip's can be changed by turning your router off for a minute then turning back on...if your provider has a static IP then use a broadband dongle instead...check your new IP has changed via numerous free IP checking sites.

cookies / flash cookies can be TOTALLY removed by various programs, search google for ccleaner for example

If you are 100% convinced that AW doesn't log IP's then you can alleviate the need for seperate laptops by having seperate windows user accounts on the same computer.........and seperate browsers via each account

Offline Admin

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This thread is missing something crucial - that is phone number.
If two accounts submit escort bookings with the same number, both become aliases.
At least that was the case back in 2008 when I tested their alias system thoroughly.

Offline Admin

  • Site Owner
cookies / flash cookies can be TOTALLY removed by various programs, search google for ccleaner for example

They can also be removed by the browser. If you clear your cookies in recent Firefox/Chrome browsers then they will also delete flash cookies (proper name is LSO).


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