Cara_XStunning (GFE: Shower/B2B, DFK, OWO/RO, FS) in N15 (Tottenham).

[joshwinkers]

As I said I did go to see 'her' but bounced straight away. Need to do a proper review but my Spidey senses were right.

THATS A MAN.

it's very wrong that were all being mislead.

I really don't care either way, but I'm amazed you're so convinced without having spent much time with her.

As it goes, I genuinely feel she was female, I've met a fair few trans women in my life and the voice and hands are often a giveaway, but she sounded extremely feminine and if Cara was once a man than the plastic surgeon involved must be the greatest there ever was!

[Coolrunner]

She's going on my ever-growing list. Looks like the whole post-op debate might have done her favour. It's certainly brought her to my attention.

[PilotMan]

C'mon, Snax ... you can't just parachute in with "THATS A MAN" without qualification ... you really do need to "do a proper review", please.

He just dropped a grenade and walked away.

[tp69]

If there's a single post-op pussy out there that doesn't have scarring, I'd like to see it. From everything I've seen on the subject, it simply isn't possible, it's major surgery. I will allow for the possibility that I'm wrong, however, I want to see photos and proof.

I feel for these girls. Quite a few read their reviews and can't be the nicest threads to read through.

Enjoy the weekend chaps 

[tp69]

He just dropped a grenade and walked away.

I can't take anyone seriously who does that. To me that's just trolling.

We're here to share info in order to make an informed choice. Tantra outlined his concerns in a respectful and articulate way, and provided a reasoned argument for it, whereas some guys take one look at a photo of a girl with long fingers and condemn her straight off, it's a little bizarre, especially when a number of seasoned punters have already seen her and not had a suspicion.

[Nagilum]

As I said I did go to see 'her' but bounced straight away. Need to do a proper review but my Spidey senses were right.

THATS A MAN.

it's very wrong that were all being mislead.

At this point I'm starting to think Finkle is Einhorn.

What was it?

[Kev40ish]

At this point I'm starting to think Finkle is Einhorn.

What was it?

He’s been on line since I’m thinking he’s more of a troll than being genuine 

Clocks ticking hammers waiting..

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[tp69]

I see sex is not listed on her profile. Wonder if it's due to her being on? Strange. Was it listed before or does she change it for her monthly?

ps. If that's the case, you have your answer.

[LLPunting]

I see sex is not listed on her profile. Wonder if it's due to her being on? Strange. Was it listed before or does she change it for her monthly?

ps. If that's the case, you have your answer.

"Quickie" is still listed.

And with "vaginal" sex delisted it could mean someone broke her man-made one. 

Be VERY careful with all your sarciness in defending this SP.

It has already been made clear that someone has seen her ID and that Thai IDs quote sex assigned at birth and cannot be legally changed after re-assignment.

[tp69]

"Quickie" is still listed.

And with "vaginal" sex delisted it could mean someone broke her man-made one. 

Be VERY careful with all your sarciness in defending this SP.

It has already been made clear that someone has seen her ID and that Thai IDs quote sex assigned at birth and cannot be legally changed after re-assignment.

For someone as articulate as you are, you should know the difference between 'defending someone', and attempting to get to the underlying fact. I have not made a single comment defending her.

I happen to respect Tantra's experience and opinion, which is why I offered another possibility to understand from him whether that is plausible or whether he's certain in his opinion. At no point did I even refute his opinion.

[LLPunting]

For someone as articulate as you are, you should know the difference between 'defending someone', and attempting to get to the underlying fact. I have not made a single comment defending her.

I happen to respect Tantra's experience and opinion, which is why I offered another possibility to understand from him whether that is plausible or whether he's certain in his opinion. At no point did I even refute his opinion.

You have been repeatedly disputing the point across multiple threads for over a week, saying it once establishes your opinion.  There have been many reputable punters' reviewing her and most haven't felt it necessary to reiterate their belief they had a good time with an apparently female SP.  Why not just take comfort in a majority view?

T-man has already clearly stated that for all his (unsurprisingly distracted) observation he hadn't seen anything overtly proving surgery.  More to the point he doesn't care because he'd be happy to enjoy her service regardless of the (past) presence of a cock.  There was nothing really of his concern to "refute".

Whilst it's possible, SPs (let alone their agencies) rarely update their profile to exclude sex because of periods.  Also she's been around long enough and she's been popular enough that someone would've noticed that all these months.  I dont recall her profile from the beginning but it's possible it was always like that.  If T-man took his screenshot 3 days ago then that's rather a long time to be "out of service" for a period for an SP and again likely notable by UKPers since August (I've looked through all her past reviews now).

[anonvip20]

Hey Guys, to add my two pence worth.

I've also seen Cara a couple of times now, once in walthamstow and once in tottenham. I don't claim to know anything specific about transgender so cant prove or disprove any of whats been said. Personally to me she was/is all women, but then again I've never been with a transgender person so don't know what I should be looking for.

What I do know is that I felt 100% comfortable with her as a women and since the issue of transgender came up I haven't been back even though her GFE service is very very good. So we can't say this sort of conversation doesn't affect working girls, I for one have now had the seed of doubt planted even though I can't agree with some of the reasons i.e. a non shapely rear end, or her hands (they are tiny!).

She showed me scars from where she fell off a motorbike as I had a similar injury when I saw her the second time, there were a few on her arms and one on her calf so the scarring could be anything.

Not sure what I'm trying to say except that today I would have gone to see her if it wasn't for the seed of doubt, instead I went to see another girl and had the worst punting experience of my life! Review to follow on both.

Lets try to make sure we have facts that are lead to conclusive answers

[tp69]

Hey Guys, to add my two pence worth.

I've also seen Cara a couple of times now, once in walthamstow and once in tottenham. I don't claim to know anything specific about transgender so cant prove or disprove any of whats been said. Personally to me she was/is all women, but then again I've never been with a transgender person so don't know what I should be looking for.

What I do know is that I felt 100% comfortable with her as a women and since the issue of transgender came up I haven't been back even though her GFE service is very very good. So we can't say this sort of conversation doesn't affect working girls, I for one have now had the seed of doubt planted even though I can't agree with some of the reasons i.e. a non shapely rear end, or her hands (they are tiny!).

She showed me scars from where she fell off a motorbike as I had a similar injury when I saw her the second time, there were a few on her arms and one on her calf so the scarring could be anything.

Not sure what I'm trying to say except that today I would have gone to see her if it wasn't for the seed of doubt, instead I went to see another girl and had the worst punting experience of my life! Review to follow on both.

Lets try to make sure we have facts that are lead to conclusive answers

 

[LLPunting]

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Not sure what I'm trying to say except that today I would have gone to see her if it wasn't for the seed of doubt, instead I went to see another girl and had the worst punting experience of my life! Review to follow on both.

Lets try to make sure we have facts that are lead to conclusive answers

Are you now having nightmares or pangs of shame or guilt about your previous 2 enjoyable visits?
Perhaps you've made a breakthrough in any prior hesitation to see a convincingly female and femine TS?
I generally avoid female SPs ("real" or man-made) with fake breasts and obvious cosmetic surgery because I just don't find that attractive, of the few that I have seen, it's possible that some of them may've been post-op Trans but the only ones I regret were the ones who were poor performers and clear wastes of money not what I suspect about their birth gender.

[anonvip20]

Funnily enough I don't regret it at all
I still firmly believe she is and always has been female as I saw or experienced nothing to the contrary

However, when others who know more put their views forward then it will no doubt effect the memory of the experience as it no longer represents the experience you thought you had

I've been mulling over would I go back, and thats the only reason I haven't gone back yet - I know my brain will only be thinking about that and that will take away from the positive GFE that Cara provides

As to Transgender providers, I would never knowlingly seek them out however thats purely personal and nothing against anyone else or them.

[LLPunting]

Funnily enough I don't regret it at all
I still firmly believe she is and always has been female as I saw or experienced nothing to the contrary

However, when others who know more put their views forward then it will no doubt effect the memory of the experience as it no longer represents the experience you thought you had

I've been mulling over would I go back, and thats the only reason I haven't gone back yet - I know my brain will only be thinking about that and that will take away from the positive GFE that Cara provides

As to Transgender providers, I would never knowlingly seek them out however thats purely personal and nothing against anyone else or them.

Thanks for the honesty.   
Guess I should test myself and check out TS SPs who have such amazing bone structure, surgery, hormone therapy response and enhancement they are indistinguishable (if not better than real women) when naked (might still have a problem if they sound like Frank Bruno).  Best check prices but I think they're outside my budget anyways.

[tp69]

@LLP - guess I wasn't wrong......

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=357139.new#new

You're welcome gents.

[tantraman]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=357139.new#new

You're welcome gents.

Many thanks indeed for linking to Sexualchocolate's latest review on Cara, tp69, which I also make clear-cut with this quote ...

Went to switch position and she looks down and says is that blood. I thought fcuk have I torn my dick and condom broke? No she pulls me out and there was blood from her  she is checking viscosity if with her fingers. Some blood on my pelvic area. I was grossed put. No apologies etc...apart from I think my period is starting - no shit! I wanted wash up and get the hell out of there.

... case closed

[anonman2]

I was the one who TOFTT and posted the first review of her. Been laughing along at this idea she’s post op. If she is then fair play to her surgeon for doing such an amazing job on her pussy, literally indistinguishable from the real thing!

[tantraman]

I was the one who TOFTT and posted the first review of her …

… and much obliged, good sir!

[tantraman]

Just keeping tabs on this delectable WG, who's moved from AW to Asian Selection ...

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[JO6688]

Just keeping tabs on this delectable WG, who's moved from AW to Asian Selection ...

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Didn't she stop working for a while with this agency? Either way it's good to see her back.

Re is she is isn't she, my own opinion is she was born a women and is a women. I base this on a) having seen her and b) having been with Trans (both post op and pre op) and c) her bringing up the topic during our meet and finding it very funny that some men believe she was born a man.

Please note that we are talking about ones livelihood and profession here. Any allegations about her being Trans could be detrimental to her income and livelihood. Also please bear in mind that she is from Thailand, where her standard of living is likely to be very different to ours in UK. Very possible that she is the breadwinner of the family, if not the village. Her income in the UK and time working in UK, is highly likely to result with improvements in her and her families quality of life.

[Tomcat]

Be it he or she about Cara enjoy the moment all woman in my opinion.

Very attractive✔

Nice breasts✔

Pussy✔

Nice ass✔

Sounds like great service✔

What more should a guy want, it's all about having a great time and enjoy yourself which you did TM.

[Chris1990mcr]

Wish she would tour and come to manchester looks fit as fuck.

[patelprat]

Can Someone not change the title of your review then?
That alone on the list page would put people off.

[PilotMan]

Can Someone not change the title of your review then?
That alone on the list page would put people off.

The OP can request it - a Helper or Mods can change it.

[tantraman]

Can Someone not change the title of your review then?
That alone on the list page would put people off.

Good point, patelprat

The OP can request it - a Helper or Mods can change it.

Just done, PilotMan ... I've requested a Subject/Title change to:

Cara_XStunning (GFE: Shower/B2B, DFK, OWO/RO, FS) in N15 (Tottenham)

[tantraman]

Ah, it's good to rediscover Cara's new AW profile:

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[tantraman]

And the aforementioned Asian Selection site (External Link/Members Only) has a couple of new photos ...

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... and the Miss 69 London site (External Link/Members Only) has smilier ones ...

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[Prince]

I carry a portable ultrasound machine and scan all escorts for ovaries and uterus before touching them.

 

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[PilotMan]

Damn shame, she's gone so far away from me, now in SW6 😟

[tantraman]

Damn shame, she's gone so far away from me, now in SW6 😟

It's a damn shame for me too ... Cara unsurprisingly seems to have 'graduated' from the Tottenham area and prices; ah well, easy cum easy go!

[bedhedred]

I'm glad I got to do her at £100/45 minutes! Now she has graduated...

[tantraman]

A new quintet from the Miss 69 site ...

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[soulmining]

Wow, those latest photos!!

I think she's probably the hottest looking Thai on the market at the moment, maybe time to pay her a visit!

Found another new image on her Kommons listing too:

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[Pleasure4ever]

She’s at £200 on miss 69 now!
Not sure if I’d fork out that much at her level of service?
No A levels which for me is no bother but for some will at this price point.

[soulmining]

She’s at £200 on miss 69 now!
Not sure if I’d fork out that much at her level of service?
No A levels which for me is no bother but for some will at this price point.

Not sure where you've seen this? Still listed at £150 for one hour when I checked earlier.

[Jeffe]

Yep says £200 there now….hope this doesn’t represent a shift in market pricing for agency Thai’s 

[Bartolomeo]

Sweety April has also put price up, but to £170.

Probably testing the water with the price rises

[boardyhell]

booked her on Friday ,got text asking for confirmation which I didn't see
parked a couple of hours later ( afternoon) and noticed text
called them to explain expecting to have lost  booking but she was still free
cara is over priced ,not for looks but service ,especially asking for extras
April is sexy but a gradual creep up will stop me returning as the financial straight jacket tightens

[bossrossi477]

this is bullshit. !150 half hour/ 200 1 hour
new agency wants steals money. Also Kate rise up.  they will lose clients.

[bossrossi477]

I guess they gonna leave the country soon try to make money

[bossrossi477]

I asked the agency about it.
 they replied that the girl requested a price increase.

We should be avoid then let see she gonna put down the price again

[bossrossi477]

text me again said
inflation baby rent is expensive

bullshit

[bossrossi477]

Wow, those latest photos!!

I think she's probably the hottest looking Thai on the market at the moment, maybe time to pay her a visit!

Found another new image on her Kommons listing too:

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avoid mate!!

[Pleasure4ever]

Bossrossi I recon the opposite will happen the WG will stay here while some of us will work out that going to BangCock for 5 days is actually a pretty good bargain now!

[boardyhell]

Didn’t return at 150

[soulmining]

Yep says £200 there now….hope this doesn’t represent a shift in market pricing for agency Thai’s 

Yes, I can see the £200 p/h price for Cara and Kate now - although April still shows as £150 (?).

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. In some respects we've been lucky, the agency rate for Thais has stayed at £150 for 10+ years now. But... a 33% increase is certainly going to make me think twice about bookings. I wonder if the other agencies will take this as their cue to follow suit and raise prices...

[Graham2050]

Agreed with everyone else, I’m not paying 200 for Cara and definitely not Kate, will stick with Olina.

[tp69]

I'd like to know what effect it has on their booking numbers per day. I don't mind paying £150 but I don't bother at £200, just feel it's too much for an hour's fun especially when punting frequently. So it puts them out of range. I wonder how many will just suck it up and pay.

I was keen to see April and Kate, but not paying more than £150.