Taunton Health Spa

[SomersetJim]

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Visited about a month ago. 

Meant to visit when they opened, but opted to visited the other Chinese massage place, as they’d lowered their price, but the woman there was awful (her last day, so no point in reviewing) and wished I’d spent the extra tenner and visited Taunton Health Spa.

Anyway, texted on the day, asking for a time, no probs with comms. Made use of the, two hours, free parking at Morrisons and texted to say I was there and was there a more discreet entrance. There is, through a gate and was met by Sally.

The shop is new and I’ve seen Sally at both shops, that are linked to the Taunton one, Crewkerne and Exeter (Heavitree), so I knew what to expect. Paid £50 for an hour and was shown into the room.

There’s two rooms in the shop, both with ensuite showers, basin and CCTV monitors showing external views. Once in the room, Sally disappeared to lock up and returned.

Usual competent massage, followed by the usual question of B2B? No mention of cost, but said yes. She strips off and climbs on. Full b2b in both fdm and fum. Followed by Sally’s excellent skills for a nice he.

The only downside was, a couple of calls in Chinese, that according to Sally were about trying to organise rota girls for the shop. At the time of the visit, Sally and Mimi were alternating due to the lack of suitable girls.

At the end, I was offered a shower and asked how much extra I’d pay. I’ve always been asked for £40 at the other shops, so that is what I offered and that was what was accepted. Although ymmv in that department.

Would I return? Yes. It may be £5 an hour dearer, but it’s a lot more convenient than the shops that are 40 to 60 mile round trip for me. Also I’d imagine, a consistent standard of service, unlike the other, cheaper Station Road shop.

Jim

[sparkus]

Review a bit light on details about her body/looks/age mate?

[SomersetJim]

Review a bit light on details about her body/looks/age mate?

Maybe, but it’s a Chinese Massage Shop, so looks are somewhat irrelevant compared to the service you’re going for.

But, for the record about 5’3”, 40/50, body in proportion.

Jim

[southcoastpunter]

Maybe, but it’s a Chinese Massage Shop, so looks are somewhat irrelevant compared to the service you’re going for.

Jim

Jim - that might be your personal view but its not a view that is shared by all guys. For example many guys on here seem to like large and huge boobs - i don't. They turn me off  - so detail like that is important to me. Other detail may be important to other guys. we are all different in what we like and what we seek. Worth remembering that!

[SomersetJim]

Jim - that might be your personal view but its not a view that is shared by all guys. For example many guys on here seem to like large and huge boobs - i don't. They turn me off  - so detail like that is important to me. Other detail may be important to other guys. we are all different in what we like and what we seek. Worth remembering that!

I agree, but with TCM’s you rarely come across Chinese masseurs with large boobs, unless they’re fake. To me that’s important and something I would mention.

The trouble with detail in these establishments, is it’s there today, but gone tomorrow. The main detail should be the service/rates, not the provider, as after all, the extras will vary wildly between punters and are not a given. Unlike fs sp’s, who are open about services, where body type etc, is an absolute relevance.

Jim

[sparkus]

I agree, but with TCM’s you rarely come across Chinese masseurs with large boobs, unless they’re fake. To me that’s important and something I would mention.

The trouble with detail in these establishments, is it’s there today, but gone tomorrow. The main detail should be the service/rates, not the provider, as after all, the extras will vary wildly between punters and are not a given. Unlike fs sp’s, who are open about services, where body type etc, is an absolute relevance.

Jim

For the sake of a couple of taps of the keyboard the detail is useful for anyone considering a visit. Why include some detail and exclude what's pretty important? Some shops do manage to get staff with comparatively sizeable chests, as it goes.

[houseboot]

For the sake of a couple of taps of the keyboard the detail is useful for anyone considering a visit. Why include some detail and exclude what's pretty important? Some shops do manage to get staff with comparatively sizeable chests, as it goes.

Total nonsense.

Know the area you are talking about.

The detail that might be important to those living in London, where shops are numerous, is different to that needed by the folk of Taunton and most places in the SW.

There are few areas in the South West where you can be fussy about looks or boob size.

[SomersetJim]

For the sake of a couple of taps of the keyboard the detail is useful for anyone considering a visit. Why include some detail and exclude what's pretty important? Some shops do manage to get staff with comparatively sizeable chests, as it goes.

My immediate area has 5 TCMs in Somerset. It’s a total lottery, as to who you’ll see and what you get. If I reviewed one of those places, the woman might have big boobs, but the chances are you won’t see them, as the nature of TCMs means she’ll have moved on.

Two of those establishments are connected. Taunton/Crewkerne. Sally/Mimi(Lisa) are well reviewed on here. My review pretty much mirrors other’s experiences over the years. Having said that, they operate 3 shops, so unless you expressly look for them, you might not see either of them, as they have rota girls as well. So, the TCM lottery still applies to both these shops. 

A failing of this forum is the inability to index massage providers, for obvious reasons, unlike aw sp’s. So, there’s the need for a little homework of your own. I guess I could’ve of included my interpretation of her age/body etc, but that info is here. Having said that, what if one of the rota girls, who happens to have huge boobs and provides more, calls herself “Sally”?

Jim

[sparkus]

Seriously lads, are you both saying that looks and dimensions are not salient facts for a review?

[SomersetJim]

Seriously lads, are you both saying that looks and dimensions are not salient facts for a review?

No, if whoever is there is butt ugly, then I’d mention it. Likewise if an absolute stunner. But either way that’s a subjective opinion, with no point of reference, unlike aw profiles, as most Chinese places advertise with generic pics. But as I said, that’s academic, as one person’s “Lily” is a different “Lily” to the next punter. So if your overriding reason to visit a TCM shop is looks, you’ll regularly be disappointed.

The TCM places down here, don’t offer choice. Most are one woman operations. The only choice you have is to walk, if you’re not happy. If you ask for a description chances are they’re on a different level, to sell the service. So, in this case looks aren’t overly important.

Your last review was with a woman not endowed in the looks department, that was reviewed previously, but you still went ahead. If looks were that important, wouldn’t you have checked first or walked and asked for a refund?

Jim

[sparkus]

No, if whoever is there is butt ugly, then I’d mention it. Likewise if an absolute stunner. But either way that’s a subjective opinion, with no point of reference, unlike aw profiles, as most Chinese places advertise with generic pics. But as I said, that’s academic, as one person’s “Lily” is a different “Lily” to the next punter. So if your overriding reason to visit a TCM shop is looks, you’ll regularly be disappointed.

The TCM places down here, don’t offer choice. Most are one woman operations. The only choice you have is to walk, if you’re not happy. If you ask for a description chances are they’re on a different level, to sell the service. So, in this case looks aren’t overly important.

Your last review was with a woman not endowed in the looks department, that was reviewed previously, but you still went ahead. If looks were that important, wouldn’t you have checked first or walked and asked for a refund?

Jim

I don't mean looks as an attractiveness but overall physical description.

My last full review (plenty of intel chipped in to threads on subsequent punts) shouldn't have happened, unfortunately someone on here provided entirely duff info which led me to pick her.

[SomersetJim]

I don't mean looks as an attractiveness but overall physical description.

My last full review (plenty of intel chipped in to threads on subsequent punts) shouldn't have happened, unfortunately someone on here provided entirely duff info which led me to pick her.

Your last paragraph just illustrates what I’m trying to say. If I described Sally, that may or may not be to your liking. What will be of liking is the service, which is up there with the best and a strong positive.

I can’t imagine anyone being disappointed by her extras. In that, that leads to other problems you read on here with massage reviews. Questions along the lines of “do they kiss?” “Is oral an extra” “Do you think they’ll give me a full service?” The answer in most cases, is no. But, you never know. Just because I got offered something, it doesn’t follow you will, it’s a case of finding out when the question is posed, or even asked.

Jim

[SomersetJim]

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[LLPunting]

The case you're making by acknowledging the "problem" of transient workers is what use is it to review her 1 MONTH later?  Regardless of looks or level of service if she doesn't hang about for longer than a week noone else can benefit from the diarising of regret or joy about the service you received.

Looks do matter to the majority of punters, especially when given the choice beyond equivalence of service (which you're implying by suggesting the establishment a girl is working at somehow gives reassurance), so not mentioning looks because you review someone who probably won't be there for punters reading your review may seem pointless but then so is the review if the SP isn't to be found.

If the SPs are known to be on a regular, reliable or at least published rota around a number of establishments then posting reviews has validity as readers can hope to meet the same SP at some point.  BUT as you say names are easily changed so again finding an SP based on name alone is useless, making it all the more important to have a good idea of what she looks like, preferably with any identifying features made known, whether it's size of assets, condition of teeth, set of eyes, tattoos, scars or other permanent marks.

Furthermore your idea of "excellent" service may not be the same as any other punter's so failing to describe how an SP went about her delivery is more about marketing an establishment, that's more expensive, than it is about looking out for readers' interests.

When reviewing girls who spend only a short time in a location and there's uncertainty of where she will be I usually review them before they leave AND give details about looks and services so that others still have a chance to avoid or possibly enjoy.

If the establishment is known for transients, especially non-returning ones, I try to find out where she might next be found or if she is on rota somewhere so I can both benefit from and pass that info on.  I do this early in the session in case it turns out to be so shite I have to curtail and seek refund.  Sadly some girls are perhaps understandably cagey and don't divulge their rota often because of stalkers or to avoid a poor reputation killing their trade.

It doesn't matter how your local scene shapes up, just posting what amounts to "I had an excellent wank from a bird calling herself Sally a while back, you might find her at one of 3 locations if she's still about, cost a bit more and her looks aren't worth mentioning" isn't so much a review as a passing and somewhat dismissive comment over beers.

[houseboot]

Seriously lads, are you both saying that looks and dimensions are not salient facts for a review?

Yes

I have made 36 Reviews and over 4,000 posts in the SW and occasionally the SE & WM.

I have rarely made any comment about looks or size. There is no need because the availability of Independents is almost non existent and shops are few and far between.

So availability & service, rather than looks, is what is important.

Those that obsess about looks and size are invariably those that follow up with questions about oral & FS.

That is not FBSM ... if that is what interests punters then they should be in the Escort section not the Massage section.

Too many punters are going to shops when the service they want is in the the Escorting domain.

As I've explained many times before, there is clear difference (certainly in this part of the country) between Massage shops (which is a new phenomenon for us) and the old style "Massage Parlours" ( which have been around for 50+ years which had little to do with Massage and was all about FS)

So with respect, you and LLpunting need to stick to your area, and your area of expertise, rather than venturing "out of region" and criticising people about things you clearly do not understand.

[SomersetJim]

I’d give a proper reply, if it wasn’t so awkward to address individual points with quotes!

I will say, the delay to my review is, there have been problems, with this provider being shown reviews from others (from another site, not this one, but who knows if they are a member here?) which could lead to awkward situations, which I’m keen to avoid, as the massage scene in my area is so small. Time allows for that anonymity. If, in the intervening period someone was to ask, I’d be happy to help. If the review was about a transient and negative, the story’s different and I’d review/report straightaway, as you’ll probably never see them again. 

The sp in question is not transient, but owns/works 3 shops and has been in the area a number of years and well reviewed. As I said earlier, I’d taken onboard the criticism of lack of details, but as the previous reviews allude to, she is neither overly attractive, nor ugly. But, that as you recognise, like the services offered, is personal to me.

I stand by my positive review. B2B in fdm and fum with a happy ending, is what it is. I’ve enough experience to say stripping off and standing by the table tugging at speed, is not B2B, which seems to be more and more common with Chinese sp’s. If that was the case it would’ve been noted. What more is needed? A review is a summary of services offered and given, I’ve no intention of becoming a porn writer.

The fact I and others have commented on her skills is the whole point of Positive, Neutral or Negative? Something that is lost reading reviews of the transient providers.

I mentioned cost. The reason? It’s important. I also gave the reason why a sp £5/£10 dearer than the competitors wasn’t an issue for me, whilst recognising it will be of value to people reading the review, as opposed to what you’ve alluded too.

So, in short, down here, we’re not necessarily afforded the anonymity London provides and we’re light years behind when it comes to choice!

Anyway, back to tending me carrots!

Jim

 

[LLPunting]

I’d give a proper reply, if it wasn’t so awkward to address individual points with quotes!

I will say, the delay to my review is, there have been problems, with this provider being shown reviews from others (from another site, not this one, but who knows if they are a member here?) which could lead to awkward situations, which I’m keen to avoid, as the massage scene in my area is so small. Time allows for that anonymity. If, in the intervening period someone was to ask, I’d be happy to help. If the review was about a transient and negative, the story’s different and I’d review/report straightaway, as you’ll probably never see them again. 

The sp in question is not transient, but owns/works 3 shops and has been in the area a number of years and well reviewed. As I said earlier, I’d taken onboard the criticism of lack of details, but as the previous reviews allude to, she is neither overly attractive, nor ugly. But, that as you recognise, like the services offered, is personal to me.

I stand by my positive review. B2B in fdm and fum with a happy ending, is what it is. I’ve enough experience to say stripping off and standing by the table tugging at speed, is not B2B, which seems to be more and more common with Chinese sp’s. If that was the case it would’ve been noted. What more is needed? A review is a summary of services offered and given, I’ve no intention of becoming a porn writer.

The fact I and others have commented on her skills is the whole point of Positive, Neutral or Negative? Something that is lost reading reviews of the transient providers.

I mentioned cost. The reason? It’s important. I also gave the reason why a sp £5/£10 dearer than the competitors wasn’t an issue for me, whilst recognising it will be of value to people reading the review, as opposed to what you’ve alluded too.

So, in short, down here, we’re not necessarily afforded the anonymity London provides and we’re light years behind when it comes to choice!

Anyway, back to tending me carrots!

Jim

Thanks for expanding and responding

The context of abuse of reviews was probably worth mentioning in some other way at the top of your review to explain your caution and more importantly to warn and comment on others making trouble for Sally (and others).

If you've seen Sally at all 3 shops you're probably already a bit of a standout in her memory and then mentioning some of the other detail may well have crystallised that identity if she ever gets wind of your posts here.  Whether you posted it a day later or a month after probably matters little now if she reads the thread and does her arithmetic.   

My commentary was in respect to all the points you made in the review and moreso in the follow-up posts talking about the predicament in the area.  Given your above reply I think you saw it that way rather than a direct challenge to what happened between you and Sally.

However I apologise for the last para of my earlier post for being too flip and using Sally as the example for the point I was making about vague reviews long after a girl might've moved on. 

[SomersetJim]

No probs 

[LLPunting]

Yes

I have made 36 Reviews and over 4,000 posts in the SW and occasionally the SE & WM.

I have rarely made any comment about looks or size. There is no need because the availability of Independents is almost non existent and shops are few and far between.

So availability & service, rather than looks, is what is important.

Those that obsess about looks and size are invariably those that follow up with questions about oral & FS.

That is not FBSM ... if that is what interests punters then they should be in the Escort section not the Massage section.

Too many punters are going to shops when the service they want is in the the Escorting domain.

As I've explained many times before, there is clear difference (certainly in this part of the country) between Massage shops (which is a new phenomenon for us) and the old style "Massage Parlours" ( which have been around for 50+ years which had little to do with Massage and was all about FS)

So with respect, you and LLpunting need to stick to your area, and your area of expertise, rather than venturing "out of region" and criticising people about things you clearly do not understand.

Houseboot, looks may be less important in your mind because of the limited supply of SPs in your area but they are not necessarily irrelevant to others.  Your insistence that it matters not to omit such details disrespects the preferences and decision-making of these punters, some of whom may want to be sure that however much money they need to spend for a sexual release it at least guarantees them it will be with someone they might find attractive.
If you're going to argue the irrelevance of looks then perhaps you'd also care to argue the same about SP gender identification?

It doesn't matter whether it's just a tug, a blowie, FS or anything else and it doesn't matter what kind of establishment, because what may be offered is down to any specific management's enforceable insistence at a particular time and more importantly down to the SP and her desire/desperation to earn the money she wants/needs and to enjoy the sex she engages in with any or all clients, hence YMMV.  This may be (temporarily) affected by (passing) scrutiny from the local council, cops or prying evangelicals and NIMBYs. 
Arguably in an area where the choice is limited but men's sexual desires are fairly predictably "healthy and normal" the girls operating will know that there will be some men after more services than others (regardless of the looks of the SP) and as such they will have the opportunity to make more money if inclined to offer such services, to prized regulars or all cummers, wherever they may work.

You can choose to be an FBSM purist but there is no mandate, legal or otherwise, that states that anyone advertising such an experience must provide or limit the services offered to qualify as an "FBSM practitioner" c.f. "sex worker" or "prostitute".  The only distinction to be reasonably made is is the advertiser offering only massage with no sexual arousal involved or are they offering a sexualised service, "sensual" is a decorous and deliberate misnomer that fools no one; sensual physical contact intended to sexually arouse is a sexual service regardless of any resultant orgasm and the means by which it is brought about. 
If they are offering any sexualised service and operating on a premises where other providers also work concurrently or other days then they are working in a brothel and breaking the law. 
Do judges and prosecutions make a distinction in sentencing or fines depending on whether it was wanking or fucking? 
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I can't see it in the above guidance but if they do then perhaps there's legitimate grounds for a legal striation and licencing of the in-person sex industry and then perhaps your insistence about what any punter requests in any sex establishment would be valid.

The Massage sections were added for advertised massage providers that might offer extras with no limitation on those extras or how much of the sessions must be spent on massage.  There is no stipulation to the level of formal qualification or demonstrated expertise in massage necessary to qualify for these sections. 

So if you're going to insist we stick to any specific area of expertise then we'll stick to the "men seeking sexual services subject to personal preferences" section and you can stay in the "desperately grateful to be wanked by any masseuse" section.

P.S.  Why does the number of reviews and posts matter in this discussion?  Given that any punter's tastes can change in any orientation or preference as time passes, your consistency of conviction is just your belief awash in this melting pot of men seeking some sort of sexual gratification.

[houseboot]

LLPunting

Stick to your area of expertise please.

You don't know this area, you don't understand the dearth of punters or, at least, the dearth of  Reviews.

Your verbal diarrhoea is just that ... a deluge of words that helps no one in this region.

It will not increase the number of Reviews we receive.

Somersetjim's Review was useful. Your critical comments will put others off Reviewing rather than encourage them to Review more.

It's always best to be concise & lucid, ie "Keep it simple".

 

[LLPunting]

LLPunting

Stick to your area of expertise please.

You don't know this area, you don't understand the dearth of punters or, at least, the dearth of  Reviews.

Your verbal diarrhoea is just that ... a deluge of words that helps no one in this region.

It will not increase the number of Reviews we receive.

Somersetjim's Review was useful. Your critical comments will put others off Reviewing rather than encourage them to Review more.

It's always best to be concise & lucid, ie "Keep it simple".

 

Observations about SP behaviours experienced and reported by the many punters in London and further afield are all pertinent because how places are run and how ladies trade can change over-night, especially with the economic problems currently abounding.
You clearly didn't understand my comments exchanged with Jim, which he took in good faith as they were intended.  His measured and reasoned replies showed that and only added to his credibility and gave us more intel about the encounter.

Asking for more details about the looks of SPs does not discourage reviewing.
Suggesting that reviews be more timely doesn't compromise reviewing or reviewers, it does make them reconsider what actually needs to be in or excluded from a review to preserve any required anonymity whilst improving utility to other punters. 

Of your self-lauded 36 reviews only 6 are in the past 18 months since lockdown ended, granted 2 are for ladies in Taunton but there are 4 establishments currently listed there in Gumtree alone.  600 of your 4000 posts in that same time so sure you may've mentioned a lot more but actually updating about the current practices (say the last 3 months) of all the ladies in all the shops across "your" region?  Seems to be a mighty big stretch to claim currency of dominion over all things restricting "FBSM" across the S/SW of England and Wales.

[houseboot]

LLPunting

Your verbal diarrhoea helps no one.

Your interpretation of my posts is more inaccurate than you claim mine is of yours.

This is not London ... please just go back to the area you know best.

 

[southcoastpunter]

HB - looks are important to many of us. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc but I and many others are interested in some basic details approx age and body shape ie slim, average, larger etc.

As i said earlier i am not interested in a lady with large or fake boobs  - or a size 14+ or age 50+. And in the SW, like elsewhere,  we do have a choice - to go or not go. I would choose not to go! So this sort of information IS useful to me!

[houseboot]

HB - looks are important to many of us. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc but I and many others are interested in some basic details approx age and body shape ie slim, average, larger etc.

As i said earlier i am not interested in a lady with large or fake boobs  - or a size 14+ or age 50+. And in the SW, like elsewhere,  we do have a choice - to go or not go. I would choose not to go! So this sort of information IS useful to me!

This is not London where there are hundreds, if not thousands, of shops.

This is not Bournemouth where there are dozens of shops.

This is Taunton.

Taunton where not long ago there was just one dodgy Thai shop where WSWS* was very much in evidence ...not in an enjoyable, teasing way but in a frustrating "are they providing HE this month or not" kind of way.

Then a couple of years ago it joined the "Chinese expansion" and a Chinese shop opened, a few initial Reviews and then ... nothing.

Now a second Chinese shop has opened, linked to Crewkerne & Heavitree, which gives locals (I use the term loosely, ie those within a 50 mile radius) a suggestion of the level of service ... but ... a good massage and, usually, exceptionally good HE which has to be balanced against B2B with "knickers on" and the increasingly annoying habit of answering texts & calls during the session.

So, Yes, this Review was welcomed and IMO was good albeit lacking in one particular detail.

No, that detail was not the size of breasts ... but I have given you a clue.

Yes, it would be nice to have more choice available in the SW.

Yes, it would be nice to have more Reviews in the SW but the number of members living here is few and, as Somersetjim has eluded to, there is an anonymity issue at times.

So, to conclude, as I have stated all through this thread, no, appearance and breast size is not a deal breaker.

This is Taunton ... not London and not Bournemouth (which is the only place in the SW which has any real choice ... Bristol is bigger but is catching up slowly, very slowly)

Know the area you are talking about then you know what detail is critical and what is not.


(* the WSWS in the Thai shop is often a, beware, WHWH  )

[southcoastpunter]

So, to conclude, as I have stated all through this thread, no, appearance and breast size is not a deal breaker.


Know the area you are talking about then you know what detail is critical and what is not.

you are making the mistake of thinking that everyone thinks and acts as you do. Personally, if i didn't find the lady at least "acceptable" to me I just would NOT go. Full stop.  So to me, it is critical detail.

[houseboot]

you are making the mistake of thinking that everyone thinks and acts as you do. Personally, if i didn't find the lady at least "acceptable" to me I just would NOT go. Full stop.  So to me, it is critical detail.

With respect, you are speaking as a customer/punter whose Reviews cover a small area (most within 10 miles of each other) which is well populated with shops. So your criteria may be different.

I am giving you, and others who have contributed to this thread, an insight as to what it is like for the rest of us who live and of travel in the SW.

So the criteria is:-

Is there a shop?

How accessible is it?

(Locals will be concerned 're anonymity because of community size. Travellers will want to know how easy it is to find/park)

Permanent staff or part of the "Rota system"?

Quality of service?

Is HE available or is it "legit"?

So, no,appearance & breast size will not be a key factor for me or most other potential customers.

Know the area you are talking about ... we would love to be choosy but we're living off scraps.

 

[lewis666]

It looks like a welcome edition to the local area and not having been yet but passed last week and thought must stop when next in to see if the rota system is up and running yet as it’s all part of the adventure not knowing who is there surely?

I’m guessing they are a lot busier than the reviews here make out as I’ve visited and reviewed the other shop and wouldn’t rush back

[houseboot]

It looks like a welcome edition to the local area and not having been yet but passed last week and thought must stop when next in to see if the rota system is up and running yet as it’s all part of the adventure not knowing who is there surely?

I’m guessing they are a lot busier than the reviews here make out as I’ve visited and reviewed the other shop and wouldn’t rush back

And breathe   

The use of "and" three times in one sentence makes it difficult to follow your thought process.

Yes, they were busy 2 weeks ago when I "walked in" so I didn't wait.  It was a Monday so perhaps the Rota girl, if one was expected, hadn't arrived yet. Mimi was there and she was busy for another 2 hours (she said Sally was in Crewkerne). I found out later in the week there was a Rota girl in Heavitree.

[lewis666]

And breathe   

The use of "and" three times in one sentence makes it difficult to follow your thought process.

Yes, they were busy 2 weeks ago when I "walked in" so I didn't wait.  It was a Monday so perhaps the Rota girl, if one was expected, hadn't arrived yet. Mimi was there and she was busy for another 2 hours (she said Sally was in Crewkerne). I found out later in the week there was a Rota girl in Heavitree.

Difficult but clearly not impossible 

[Henry767]

As Houseboot wrote:

"So the criteria is:-

Is there a shop?

How accessible is it?"

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