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Author Topic: Excellent article on prostitution in The Economist  (Read 4163 times)

Offline Malvolio

Here's the link:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21611074-how-new-technology-shaking-up-oldest-business-more-bang-your-buck

As a pro-free market and socially liberal newspaper, I'd expect The Economist to talk sense on this issue, and it does.  The research figures it provides also indicate that Americans pay a lot more than we do per hour.

Offline d00fer

Interesting read, thanks for sharing.

Offline Sparquin

Excellent article. Key takeaways

- the Internet makes prostitution easier for women to enter
- it appears to offer better security by being Internet facilitated
- support groups (obviously SAAFE) allow women who take up the trade to feel better about what they do

This ought to point to more girls in the biz and therefore an increase in supply.

However it also implies that prostitution will continue to be a BCD activity and therefore this will inevitably delay any enlightened public debate as to its role in society.

Views anyone?

Offline Uoti2

Interesting read, thanks for sharing.
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Vanessa, a part-time escort in southern England, finds that weeks can go by without her phone ringing. Men see buying sex as a luxury, she says, and with the price of necessities rising it is one they are cutting back on. Even when she offers discounts to whip up interest, clients are scarcer than they were.
Are rates for paid sex really as price-insensitive as the above quote suggests? Until I read that article, I'd just assumed that a WG with a high price and dusty phone syndrome was either:
 - deliberately using her high price to reduce demand, because she's clever and popular; or
 - refusing to lower her price since "I'm worth every penny", because she's stupid and unpopular; or
 - happier moaning about the problem than trying to fix it, because she's a woman.

This ought to point to more girls in the biz and therefore an increase in supply.
Views anyone?
Perhaps, even though it's a very highly-paid and (ostensibly) low-skill job, prostitution has unconventional but significant barriers to entry. Otherwise, as you say, one might expect at least the lower end of the market to be flooded with supply, which in turn would drive down prices.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2014, 10:38:37 AM by Uoti2 »

An informative article.

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Offline Captain Caveman

All good points. My takeaways:

The internet has made life easier for everyone, just like it has for the sale and purchase of other goods and services.

Average price per hour (in 12 rich countries): $265 = £158, which sounds about right for the UK

Average price per hour in London: $233 = £139. I don't do 1-2-1s in London but sounds low

Anal attracts a premium of $25 (£15) and spanking $50 (£30) - sounds the wrong way round to me; can that be accurate?

A boob job will attract a premium and pay for itself in 90 hours of work - bargain!

The influx of EE girls is undercutting UK girls (are WGs more likely to vote UKIP than the average?)

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Offline pokenn



Anal attracts a premium of $25 (£15) and spanking $50 (£30) - sounds the wrong way round to me; can that be accurate?


Spanking is potentially safer and less painful than anal sex. Anal, even with a condom has it's dangers eg anal bleeding, possibly causing or aggravating haemorrhoids.

Offline Captain Caveman

Exactly, which is why I find the price difference odd.
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thanks, interesting article.  I imagine prices are advertised prices, though as we know many accept less (rb and the like). I also imagine we see median numbers, rather than actual averages. Or am I mistaken here?

I dont see facials on the extras there


Offline dilettante

Here's the link:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21611074-how-new-technology-shaking-up-oldest-business-more-bang-your-buck

As a pro-free market and socially liberal newspaper, I'd expect The Economist to talk sense on this issue, and it does.  The research figures it provides also indicate that Americans pay a lot more than we do per hour.
Is that because they pay by the inch?

Is that because they pay by the inch?

Yes, we pay by the yard in england

Offline Daffodil

So fatties charge less, big surprise.

People often trot out the line that "beauty is the eye" and all that, but, when it comes down to it, fit girls "earn" more that the fat ones.

This should only be new information to those who think we're all made equal. A minger is a minger, and just because someone finds her attractive doesn't make it so.

Good article, a few other interesting points.

jcdmj12

That one article has more quality research in it than all the theses I've seen by sociology and gender studies students I've seen posting on punting boards over the years.

Offline Malvolio

I'm pleased that someone in the press has had the balls to come to the sensible viewpoint and back what we all think.  Mind you, it probably helps that all of the articles in the Economist are anonymous...

Offline Barry Shipton

Damn sight better researched than that article in the Indie about Britain's highest paid rent boy bollocks mentioned on another thread.

Shame the research is based on a US site and it's prices - but the principles of what costs more should be the same. Needs someone to do a similar job on AW - including regional variations as prices certainly seem to vary as I read reviews on other regional boards.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2014, 10:42:10 AM by Barry Shipton »

Online Marmalade



One of the most data-led news magazines available and it's come up with two sheavily pro-legalising prostitution articles, plus a massive international survey (190,000 profiles of sex workers) using a database they are not at legal liberty to name but from which they deduce a mass of statistics and tables on prices, places, cim and anal and various other things that prompted them to issue a small (apparently their first ever) warning that the language may affect some prurient cunts in Whitehall. It also shows that ugly fat prossies earn a lot less than good looking ones (ahem, "slim, attractive"). Two main articles: a leader entitled, "A personal choice," and a special feature called "More bang for your buck". They also say the price of a shag is going down (no pun intended). Brief audio interviews as well on the website.

Worth a fiver.

Offline Sparquin

Sadly the FT online has a rather cynical revIew of the article. It states prostitution is illegal.  Nice try, Economist, but I reckon nothing changes.

Hope I am wrong.

Online Marmalade

I notice they don't have much to say really against The Economist's 5 pages and 4 charts. There is a link where they say they "spill the beans" but the quick glimpse before the "subscribe now" cut me off didn't look very substantial. Thought it was worth a mention anyway. Anyone that can cut and paste the FT's "hidden" article please do!

Offline shagbambi

Great article. Thank you for posting links.

Offline Barry Shipton

I know sex sells - otherwise we wouldn't be here - but all the heavies seem to be debating it this week.

Not well researched because they are opinion pieces but US news mag Time has a piece by a famous (in America) comedian arguing to legalise prostitution:
http://time.com/3087616/defense-johns-legalize-prostitution/

And a rather hackneyed response with the old argument using 'official statistics' that all girls are trafficked:
http://time.com/3089219/jim-norton-johns-prostitution-sex-addiction/

Offline Gav Lee

I think the Economist data they say is from a website that is primarily US focused hence the data is too.

And I think the comment about prostitution bring illegal is also referring to the US, hence they say US websites have to say all their content is fictional to get around this.

On a quick read, it's interesting but in terms of the UK paid sex scene I doubt if many posters on here will find much they don't know already, if anything.

Some of the international stuff is interesting tho.

And good to see the leader article pro- letting people make their own choices about buying/selling sex.

Online Marmalade

The Economist came out in a fairy recent edition earlier, pro-prostitution. I don't always ahree with them, but the articles do tend to be pretty solid research and well written, so I find it interesting when they take a stance on something so important. They don't change track much either, unlike most newspapers that present a 'variety' of opinions. Not that it will suddenly make Mr Cameron say to his wife, "I've decided to legalise prostitution and plan to hire some as new secretaries to 'do my bit' in helping them."

Those ministerial drives every morning must be hellishly boring. What better way to get a spunky new approach on a big portfolio than have a tasty young lovely sucking you off under the papers on your lap. Just check that she does CIM, David. ;)

Offline Prestige Escorts

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We bought a copy of the Economist on Sat when the front page caught our eye
The sex business , I have to say the article is the best I have ever read about our business
and the analysis and the graphs are brilliant and I would back up there  findings
The fact that money for services has come down in recent years I can confirm we have been charging the same prices for the last 10 year so in real terms the ladies and agency are making way less than 10 yrs ago


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