Socialising with WG's

[cockneybstrd]

ive fucked the first one (unpaid)
2nd and third not had sex, (kissing etc) i would love to have fucked the second one but i did not pressurise her.
third: still early days, just seeing where this will lead me...

cockneybstrd: got plently of body hair, just my nick name. i dont know why i do this with these women guess im "looking for love in all the wrong places"

Without sounding gay your not looking for love your looking for a relationship that you know will never go anywhere

[Dodo]

The difference between your post aand the OP's is that yours is sincere and heartfelt based on your experience of WGs.

And mine isn't ?...sincere that is!

I asked a simple genuine question (that in fairness has created an interesting thread) based on my own feelings and experiences, or maybe should I say lack of. I find it amazing that to go beyond simply having a physical relationship seems to a lot of guys to mean you develop a fixation with nothing in between.

Thats just simply bollocks..........between a straight shag and deep unequivocal  love there is an ocean full of alternative levels of relationships.......those who think otherwise should get out a bit.

Personally, the pleasure of  sex with whoever is far more enjoyable to me when it is with someone I find attractive physically and yes, emotionally........but that level of emotion does not have to be full on. Or does it?
On another thread running contemporaneously with this one it is interesting to see the divergence of views on revisits v one offs

[adindas]

Thank you for taking time writing your experience smoothguy69

[LL]

My story:

my main area is massage girls with HR rather than FS. im really into polish girls and have built up good rapport over the years with 3 girls.

Don't forget to come back in the near future and tell us all about Polish girls numbered 4, 5 and 6.
You lucky fucking bastard! 

[berksboy]

 You pay them - fuck them - leave them

 End of .

 She is not a GF for FS

[cockneybstrd]

And how the fuck did you know I was having therapy Cocks??  Oh yea, i get it, were you the fat smelly inadequate bastard sitting next to me the group sessions ?

I didnt know but I do know now that you bite really easy (and it looks like I touched a raw nerve)

And you seem a bit excited about that comeback... Maybe you can discuss that too with your therapist.. As well you obviously have some issues.

[richie]

This is the truth! to the OP when you first start out punting, it's because you feel lonely and you do it for the company. You say to yourself you won't get attached. after a few girls you make the mistake of asking a WG out. we've all been there. Truth is for most of us it fails badly or get shut down (and in hindsight we all appreciate this moment). If you think you like this girl, open her AW profile, have a wank and see how you feel. You will probably realise you are just lonely and horny.

If not then I feel for you, I hope you learn a lot and don't get hurt & your wallet rinsed too bad!

Never punted through loneliness myself, just a desire to fuck something fresh that I'm not married to.

[cunnyhunt]

This is the truth! to the OP when you first start out punting, it's because you feel lonely and you do it for the company. You say to yourself you won't get attached. after a few girls you make the mistake of asking a WG out. we've all been there. Truth is for most of us it fails badly or get shut down (and in hindsight we all appreciate this moment). If you think you like this girl, open her AW profile, have a wank and see how you feel. You will probably realise you are just lonely and horny.

If not then I feel for you, I hope you learn a lot and don't get hurt & your wallet rinsed too bad!

This is not me, I punt for sex and new experiences.

[cunnyhunt]

was waiting in the car and saw one of her clients come out of her flat, all red faced like he had a really good workout. even though i knew what she did for a living this really hurt inside me, i could not bear this side of her as i wanted her all to myself (hypocritical i know). i asked her if there is any possibility of her not doing this work, got a flat "no" for an answer. thats the last time i saw her, she refused to meet me after that incident  i had a lot of emotional pain, it took me 3 months getting over her.


3rd and current girl im seeing: another polish masage girl, much older than the previous 2 (in her 30's). saw her 2 times, she gave me her number on the condition that "we go out thats all, nothing more", shes just intrested in getting out of her flat with some company as she has to stay in from 9am till 10pm all day regardless of if she has clients or not. i have taken her out twice so far, once for diner at indian restraunt and once in local club. am hoping to take her out again tonight. i have asked her last time"what do you think of me?" she said "i like you, thats why im spending time with you but i will not have a boyfriend because of the work i do. this is better for both of us". she said it always comes down to arguments in the end with relationships as the boyfriends no matter how open minded will always resent her deep down because she spends time with 6 to 7 naked men a day.
so you see it is possible to take girls out in this profession, but be prepared for the emotional pain.
i should really find someone from civvy street but i cant help it, addicted to masage girls and getting emotionally torn apart!

Highlighted in Red - was the girl pimped ? why did she have to stay in the flat for 13 hours ?

I do not understand why after the experience of No 2 you would try to do it again with No 3, it makes no sense. I think your last sentence contradicts your post.

[smoothguy69]

The difference between your post aand the OP's is that yours is sincere and heartfelt based on your experience of WGs.

posting this was theraputic in a sense, cant talk about these experiences to anyone in "real life"

[smoothguy69]

Without sounding gay your not looking for love your looking for a relationship that you know will never go anywhere

maybe there is truth in that, just cant help myself getting into these situations though

[smoothguy69]

Highlighted in Red - was the girl pimped ? why did she have to stay in the flat for 13 hours ?

I do not understand why after the experience of No 2 you would try to do it again with No 3, it makes no sense. I think your last sentence contradicts your post.

in my experience a lot of girls from abroad dont work on their own, they have very orgnised "company like" partnership setup. with "manager/pimp/boss"  figures doing the admin/advertising/phone answering etc, leaving the girls to do the actual service and they both share the daily takings. they also have "company rules" which they have to stick to, like putting in certain amount of hours a day etc.
regarding your 2nd point: i posted this not for you to compare your values and jugments on, or for you to understand and make logical sense of it.  its a small recap of my personal experiences and feelings i have and still am going through with these for girls

[cunnyhunt]

in my experience a lot of girls from abroad dont work on their own, they have very orgnised "company like" partnership setup. with "manager/pimp/boss"  figures doing the admin/advertising/phone answering etc, leaving the girls to do the actual service and they both share the daily takings. they also have "company rules" which they have to stick to, like putting in certain amount of hours a day etc.
regarding your 2nd point: i posted this not for you to compare your values and jugments on, or for you to understand and make logical sense of it.  its a small recap of my personal experiences and feelings i have and still am going through with these for girls

Ok I understand, you can cloak it any way but she is pimped.

On your 2nd point, if you do not want comment you like or agree with then do not post on an open forum  My actual thoughts and judgement is that you act like a cunt to do something several times that you know will hurt you. But hey you are not looking for anyone to understand.

[smoothguy69]

Ok I understand, you can cloak it any way but she is pimped.

On your 2nd point, if you do not want comment you like or agree with then do not post on an open forum  My actual thoughts and judgement is that you act like a cunt to do something several times that you know will hurt you. But hey you are not looking for anyone to understand.

i did expect a confrontational dick like you to come forth and spout shit.
im cloaking nothing, call it pimped if it fits in your your moral code,
the post was my personal experiences, written so that someone may find it useful.  i dont give a fuck if it makes sense to you or not or what you think of me.
Jog on...

[cunnyhunt]

the post was my personal experiences, written so that someone may find it useful. 

I did find it useful.

You do not like why 

[Jimmyredcab]

i did expect a confrontational dick like you to come forth and spout shit.
im cloaking nothing, call it pimped if it fits in your your moral code,
the post was my personal experiences, written so that someone may find it useful.  i dont give a fuck if it makes sense to you or not or what you think of me.
Jog on...

You have made 10 posts in three years, you would certainly not be missed.     

[smoothguy69]

its the quality Mr Redcab, not the quantity.....

[cunnyhunt]

why?
did i hurt your feelings?

Takes a Pro$$ie to do that to you doesn't it.

I am suspicious of accounts that sleep for 3 years then spring into life with insults. 

[Tailpipe]

I think authG took a WG for a Big Mac and paid not sure if that is Socializing , as then pilled up and tried to bash her back doors out if I remember the review correctly
all took place on a doggy bed   

[cunnyhunt]

You'll see a few of these playground gangs on here........daff & cock, JC. & CH etc. tends to happen when they've got fuck all useful to post and normally degenerates into verbals.

I'd stop diggin if I were you guys, SG's making you look like twats. His post was measured and the kind of post we should encourage.

This forum is about PUNTING not trying to make a relationship with women who suck cocks for money.

By his own admission he can not handle it but does not want to be told he is being taken for a cunt.

[Natwest]

This forum is about PUNTING not trying to make a relationship with women who suck cocks for money.

By his own admission he can not handle it but does not want to be told he is being taken for a cunt.

George Galloway declares Bradford an Israel free zone
    
Jihadist flag flying in East London

Boris to stand as MP in 2015

William Hague calls for cease fire in Gaza

Just a few well known punting topics on UK Punting

[cunnyhunt]

George Galloway declares Bradford an Israel free zone
    
Jihadist flag flying in East London

Boris to stand as MP in 2015

William Hague calls for cease fire in Gaza

Just a few well known punting topics on UK Punting

Correct, but they are in Off Topic.

What is your point ?

[jcdmj12]

Wow. Is this thread still going?  We seem to have one of these every couple of months.

Perhaps we need a new board?  "Deluded punters convinced that it will be different for them, and subsequent meltdowns" ?

[Natwest]

Correct, but they are in Off Topic.

What is your point ?

You said  "This forum is about punting" . I just pointed out that this forum does cover other topics not related to Punting in "Off Topic".

[yorkshire123]

He didn't turn out to be very smooth did he 

[cunnyhunt]

You said  "This forum is about punting" . I just pointed out that this forum does cover other topics not related to Punting in "Off Topic".

Non registered lurkers do not have access to Off Topic, some members do not have access either.

Sure you can post what you want, by why object if a member comments or disagrees which is the case with Smoothguy.

[cunnyhunt]

He didn't turn out to be very smooth did he 

I suspect he was a previous member with a sleeping profile. no proof but a gut feeling.

[house music dave]

The key question is what is the punter getting out of a social meet? if it's purely emotional satisfaction without any physical pay off then we are talking about building something different from punting as i understand it.

In terms of the bullying aspect, you have to know the environment you are stepping into. There are questions i'd like to ask that i don't because they are not relevant and not necessarily going to help anyone else.

Yes there are some guys that like to keep the ethos of UKP tight and focused and that can come across as dismissive and bullying but it's only the same as a fellow man giving you a slap round the face when you are talking bollocks or under the thumb. UKP has grown by the wealth of quality information and frank discussion about sexual practices with most of the posts being supportive and non judgemental.  I personally feel it's all to easy to fall to hard for a WG if you don't keep yourself accountable coming to UKP helps me do that.

HMD

[yorkshire123]

Date Registered: March 08, 2011, 12:29:10 pm
Last Active: Today at 01:10:05 pm

Thats some fucking sleep 

[cunnyhunt]

The key question is what is the punter getting out of a social meet? if it's purely emotional satisfaction without any physical pay off then we are talking about building something different from punting as i understand it.

In terms of the bullying aspect, you have to know the environment you are stepping into. There are questions i'd like to ask that i don't because they are not relevant and not necessarily going to help anyone else.

Yes there are some guys that like to keep the ethos of UKP tight and focused and that can come across as dismissive and bullying but it's only the same as a fellow man giving you a slap round the face when you are talking bollocks or under the thumb. UKP has grown by the wealth of quality information and frank discussion about sexual practices with most of the posts being supportive and non judgemental.  I personally feel it's all to easy to fall to hard for a WG if you don't keep yourself accountable coming to UKP helps me do that.

HMD

Good post

In red, I am short with replies as not first language. . .or they could be a twat 

[GeeWiz]

Take her out.  If it's free, then see how you feel when she's answering texts and setting up appointments with actual punters.

Or pay the full whack and have her turn the phone off.

Either way you need a check up from the neck up IMO.

[threechilliman]

Hadn't looked at this thread for a bit.

Won't be looking again any time soon.

tcm

[AnthG]

Yes there are some guys that like to keep the ethos of UKP tight and focused and that can come across as dismissive and bullying but it's only the same as a fellow man giving you a slap round the face when you are talking bollocks or under the thumb.

I read the entire thread, and unless I am forgetting some post by someone, there hasn't been any bullying in it. Or any ribbing for that matter too.

The OP asked the question and people kept saying it just wasn't going to happen. Which the OP did not like being told that.

It seems the OP honestly was wanting to ask the question in the hope people would all say yes go ahead great idea. I am guessing probably as he might of been suspecting the girl in question was reading this topic too and he was hoping with the okay from the people here on the forum he would then be able to use that as justification to ask the girl.

It would be fantastic if that girl you had a few great punts with if you can say now we've done this would you like to go for a coffee and her say "I waited all this time for you to ask" but it doesn't happen. All that will likely happen is the girl will want to block you from seeing her as she will worry she is giving out the wrong signals.

[house music dave]

Hey Anth,

I agree with you there has been no bullying on this thread, I was talking more about the general ethos of UKP which I don't think is bullying, just robust when bullshit seems to occur. One of the complexities of the written word is that use and tone can be misconstrued. What I  might see as fair comment other newer posters may take as being overly abrasive.

Not to kiss your arse, but you were one of the first to welcome me on the forum with advice. I basically thought if that's the level of honesty and tone of posts then I should get on okay here.

I've always said the moment I feel that this forum gets "nasty" or starts to follow a "cult of personality involving a few members" i'd leave

HMD       

[cunnyhunt]

Not to kiss your arse,

Anth only allows that "at discretion".

[Captain Caveman]

There was a girl I had seen a number of times and I thought we had clicked and she also dropped hints she would like to see me 'outside work'. So I asked her out for dinner and she agreed (at no point was money for her time either offered or requested).

We had a nice dinner and many drinks (which I paid for obviously and which amounted to what I would normally spend on a 1 hour 1-2-1 punt). My reward was a quickie suck 'n' fuck in the restaurant toilet!

HOWEVER, her main topic of conversation during the evening was how she was moving home and could I help her? Her first suggestion was, while she could afford the rent of a place she had her eye on, she had a problem with her 'paperwork' (i.e. no demonstrable income) so could I rent the place in my name?

I politely declined.

Her next gambit was if I chipped in £500 a month towards the rent, she would give me 4 free overnights a month. This was actually quite tempting as it would work out at punting at a few pounds an hour but I concluded that I am in punting mainly for the variety of girls on offer and not so I can see the same girl over and over again.

So moral of the story, yes you can socialise with escorts but you will be expected to sing for your supper!

[Jeff_withpetersen]

Good post. And that arrangement sounds sweet for someone who wanted a long term regular, problem being (as with all these sorts of deals) that it's very difficult to actually enforce it from either side, e.g. if you say yes, then get bored and stop paying, and she's counting on that 500 as part of her rent, what then? Does she go mental at you saying you've broken the deal and threaten to start causing problems for you? You never really know what these people are like under the surface ...

[threechilliman]

Good post. And that arrangement sounds sweet for someone who wanted a long term regular, problem being (as with all these sorts of deals) that it's very difficult to actually enforce it from either side, e.g. if you say yes, then get bored and stop paying, and she's counting on that 500 as part of her rent, what then? Does she go mental at you saying you've broken the deal and threaten to start causing problems for you? You never really know what these people are like under the surface ...

+1. The only deal I would ever enter into with a WG is one which involves me handing her some £20 notes in exchange for me being allowed to fuck her for an hour.

Keep it simple!

tcm

[Wilson85]

I contracted a mild dose of EAS after my first good punt. And I did consider taking things further.

But this thread and the numerous old threads on the subject have been invaluble in knocking the EAS out of me.

Also SAAFE is very good at dispeling any delusions that the prossies are at all remotely interested in indivdual punters. There is a thread in which many prossies say they can't remember much of the hours punt even as they shut the door on the punter. And another one where the prossie is madly in love with her boyfriend, but is seriously considering dumping him because she loves whoring!

When I phoned to book another punt with the same wg she didn't remember me and I had to book through AW as a new punter, which is fine. But it helps with defining the 'relationship' ie: your the client and she is the service provider. Nothing more.

I am going to join various outdoor pursuit clubs to socialize, it is much cheaper per hour than one disinterested prossie!

And a more likely place to find love of the long term relationship kind.

[Tailpipe]

Hey Anth,

I agree with you there has been no bullying on this thread, I was talking more about the general ethos of UKP which I don't think is bullying, just robust when bullshit seems to occur. One of the complexities of the written word is that use and tone can be misconstrued. What I  might see as fair comment other newer posters may take as being overly abrasive.

Not to kiss your arse, but you were one of the first to welcome me on the forum with advice. I basically thought if that's the level of honesty and tone of posts then I should get on okay here.

I've always said the moment I feel that this forum gets "nasty" or starts to follow a "cult of personality involving a few members" i'd leave

HMD     

Good post "robust " is clearly the standard format . Authg is less aggressive than most unless pushed,

It's takes time to understand the range of members on the forum and some have extremes
In there views , or that is my perception. But extremes are relative to a personal view.

However there is still much that can be learnt from those posters as they are often very experienced
And have seen most things when it comes to punting.

[house music dave]

However there is still much that can be learnt from those posters as they are often very experienced
And have seen most things when it comes to punting.

Very good point TP. It's like in anything I guess, you may have different views but that doesn't mean you can't respect someones ability or knowledge.

 

[NIK]

I have just removed almost 20 posts from this thread which are either bullshit or break forum rules.

Apologies if I've missed any.   

[Jimmyredcab]

its the quality Mr Redcab, not the quantity.....

I knew you were a dodgepot, so did cunnyhunt, nice try though.     

[SophieScott]

what kind of person pays £100+ an hour to buy someone dinner? 

You would be surprised - although yeah 99% of the time it's about the sex.

[SophieScott]

Nonsense 

This is just a bullshit line that gets trotted out by people who think prostitution is illegal. Your 'time' is worth next to jack shit, it's the fact that you will spread your legs for cash that brings in the wage.

That's not what I meant.  I meant that it's the duration of the booking not the act that's charged for.

[James999]

That's not what I meant.  I meant that it's the duration of the booking not the act that's charged for.

Pro$$ies are paid for sex, if you remove sex and seak employment most would be lucky to get £7 an hour (and that would be subject to tax and NI) 

I'm not sure whats worse, the bollocks you spout or your crap pictures 

[Private Parts]

Pro$$ies are paid for sex, if you remove sex and seak employment most would be lucky to get £7 an hour (and that would be subject to tax and NI) 

I'm not sure whats worse, the bollocks you spout or your crap pictures 

I think you will find Prostitutes are paid for a lot more than sex.
This forum would be rather dull if it were just the sex act.
 
PP

[Dodo]

Off topic I know, but is there some historic reason why the WG's who dare to make a post more often than not seem to get verbally abused by certain guys????????.....(no names, no pack drill)

[Dani]

Off topic I know, but is there some historic reason why the WG's who dare to make a post more often than not seem to get verbally abused by certain guys????????.....(no names, no pack drill)

Perhaps it seems that way as so many come here to either tout or just lie to make themselves look good that leads to touting or treat members as idiot who will believe anything they spout which forum members won't tolerate as its against the rules and some are not stupid enough to believe half if it.

If you don't tout and you don't talk bollocks and you don't try to patronise punters you don't get verbally abused. I'm female and I'm a prossie and whilst some don't agree with some things I post I don't get verbally abused. The again I don't tout and I don't treat other members as morons

So perhaps the real question should be why do so many prossies join just to break the rules or be patronising to other members.

[SirFrank]

Don't mix business with pleasure. Blurred lines are often discussed here but I just don't get it. I'm sure some girls have punters they genuinely like but there are IMO boundaries to this game and cross them at your peril. If the roles were reversed and a girl asked me on a date I'd be very dubious and of course I'm married so wouldn't be in the game of dating anyway. About 10 years ago I had a phonecall from a girl I'd punted with two weeks previous. She was overly friendly and I instantly thought where's this going - when she cut to the chase she in it's me to a paid orgy, which I politely declined...