Socialising with WG's

[Tony Montana]

This I am curious about.

Did you buy the tickets and then ask - want to go? or was it a case of you were in a punt and she said she liked them and you said to her well if I buy the tickets would you want to go. Or how else did that come about.

It just seems you took a massive gamble buying the tickets as very likely she could have came back and said thanks but no thanks.

She was over at my apartment for an overnight at the time, and she bought the tickets on her bank card as I didn't want them posted to my home address.  I repaid her the cash for them even though she didn't ask for it.

The next week I picked her up from her place and we went to the gig.

[Tony Montana]

If I found that my hypothetical daughter was working as a prostitute I would be more disappointed in myself for having failed her as a dad.

All the girls who have opened up to me about their reasons have wretched tales of physical/mental/sexual abuse, acrimonious divorces, daddy abandonment issues, care homes etc so I would be distraught that had not been able to protect her from whatever triggered her decision to fuck for money.

[cunnyhunt]

care homes etc

How old are the women you fuck 

[Tony Montana]

How old are the women you fuck 

   I mean they have been taken into care, not OAP care homes!!!

[Toby]

  I mean they have been taken into care, not OAP care homes!!!

Sure you do. I bet you just slip that incontinence pad to one side..... 

[Denhamhoop]

Pretty much guaranteed WS from them whether you want it or not

[Denhamhoop]

I have actually been out drinking with 3 girls from one parlour and been taken home by one of the girls.Was very different to when paying for her in room she did actually tell me she only sucks cock for money(Shame she is very good at oral).All in all just a nice night out i must admit to paying for the drinks for her when out but no different to any other date really.Was a little different next time i saw her professionally to start with but by end back to how it had been before.

[potato]

The hypothetical daughter debate is quite fascinating.  It seems many would not like their daughter to be a prostitute but are quite happy to fuck other peoples daughters - even knowing that some have had an unhappy start to life. The conversations must be really interesting - " i turned to prostitution because I was abused at home and taken into care for the rest of my childhood"  " oh that's so sad girl, I really feel for you - now bend over so I can fuck your arse hard......"   I wonder whether some punters would not like their daughters to be prostitutes because they wouldn't like their girl meeting someone like them!    (this is all tongue in cheek before people get too upset).

If you brought your daughter up correctly but there were simply no jobs, would you rather she lived in a damp council flat on benefits or a nice apartment block but worked on the game part time and paid her own way in the world?

[Toby]

The hypothetical daughter debate is quite fascinating.  It seems many would not like their daughter to be a prostitute but are quite happy to fuck other peoples daughters - even knowing that some have had an unhappy start to life. The conversations must be really interesting - " i turned to prostitution because I was abused at home and taken into care for the rest of my childhood"  " oh that's so sad girl, I really feel for you - now bend over so I can fuck your arse hard......"   I wonder whether some punters would not like their daughters to be prostitutes because they wouldn't like their girl meeting someone like them!    (this is all tongue in cheek before people get too upset).

I don't know why it needs to be tongue in cheek. It seems a pretty valid point to me.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Arriving in this thread a little late I would ask the OP and how would you introduce her to your wife?

[LL]

You need to go through the pain and emotional torture, you'll come out a stronger person for it. I think most punters need to go through this process, to avoid getting emotionally attached in the future.

Yep I agree with this.  I've been through it as an inexperienced punter.  Fell for a WG and took her on a date.  She didn't charge me and we got on well but we were suspicious of each others' intentions.  I'm sure most of us have had a bout of the old emotional attachment syndrome involving a whore although not everyone would care to admit it here.

I expect the OP is new to punting.  I also say go for it - try your luck.  Although it will not work out - it will be a heck of an experience anyway.

[The President]

Ask for a freebie
Then see what happens

[Dodo]

Its interesting how this thread has developed. At the outset, as is usual, you get the aggressive 'shoot at the hip' guys who opinion before they think through the question. Then you get the guys who think through the options/scenarios and articulate a more considered response that acknowledges the views pf others without having to agree with those views.

Then you get the Tulips 

[Jeff_withpetersen]

I agree with the above posts - ask for a freebie, or try to start up a text/email conversation just as 'friends', see what happens. You'll almost certainly be shot down just as much as if you tried to strike up a friendship outside of work with your butcher, except with added emotional clusterfucking going on in your head.

[Dodo]

I agree with the above posts - ask for a freebie, or try to start up a text/email conversation just as 'friends', see what happens. You'll almost certainly be shot down just as much as if you tried to strike up a friendship outside of work with your butcher, except with added emotional clusterfucking going on in your head.

Err.......how can you agree with the 'above posts' they take contrary views !!

[smiths]

Its interesting how this thread has developed. At the outset, as is usual, you get the aggressive 'shoot at the hip' guys who opinion before they think through the question. Then you get the guys who think through the options/scenarios and articulate a more considered response that acknowledges the views pf others without having to agree with those views.

Then you get the Tulips 

My post was reply 3 so at the start of the thread and i posted my experiences having carefully read your opening post with no aggression, not smart to tar all with the same brush in my view.

[AnthG]

Its interesting how this thread has developed. At the outset, as is usual, you get the aggressive 'shoot at the hip' guys who opinion before they think through the question. Then you get the guys who think through the options/scenarios and articulate a more considered response that acknowledges the views pf others without having to agree with those views.

Then you get the Tulips 

I do not agree.

When someone starts a topic you get the people that have experienced the situation themselves, or have personal knowledge of the situation and thus feel they can offer the right answer so they respond first.

This is what you got here, which was of people saying what you want is not going to happen.

Then the second tier of people usually are those who have no personal experience of the situation but find it personally relevant to them so they ask questions and offer thoughts on the topic too.

What you were asking for was not going to happen. So what would you rather the initial posters have said other than, its not going to happen.

[Daffodil]

That stupid question has elicited over 100 replies over a couple of days and is obviously interesting enough to attract your snout into the trough

Stupid questions can illicit great interest. I'm just enjoying watching the car crash of your life, falling for a prostitute after seeing her once 

It's also pretty funny seeing how sensitive you're getting 

[richie]

I've done the whole socialising aspect (unpaid time) and it was fine although now in hindsight it wasn't a great move on my part. I'd say the issue being the 11 year age gap, and her extremely self centred attitude combined with a mild dose of EAS on my part.

Now I have a slightly more jaded view on WGs I think I'd be happy to do it again as I wouldn't have any of the naive expectations that were previously there. I'd never be going into it wanting a relationship though just someone disconnected from the rest of my life to chat with.... A no strings attached coffee and cake buddy if you will.

If your serious about taking the WG out (rather than just being hypothetical) then book an hour in the early evening/late afternoon around dinner time and give her a bloody good seeing to, make sure she has her fun too (puts her in the right frame of mind) and then when your getting dressed etc tell her your off to get yourself a pub lunch and did she fancy joining you?

Doing it that way makes it a lot more natural than a punter asking for a date which incidentally could just look like them wanting to try and get a freebie.

[Sparquin]

I certainly would not discount the possibility that you may strike up a relationship with her that is not based around client/WG dynamics.

However I would say that you should expect a hell of a lot of emotional turmoil to reach that position, whether it is coping with EAS or simply facing up to having to pay her for her company, assuming she is up for it. It will take time and a lot of introspection on your part as to what you want and what you can live with. Only you decide if she is worth it. I sincerely hope she is.

If you have a jealous disposition then it will come to the fore and you will most likely end up getting terribly hurt. However, you will learn from that experience and emerge a more emotionally mature person for it and have a better understanding of relationship dynamics vis a vis WGs and possibly women in general. That is valuable in itself, I believe.

If you can cope with the downside possibilities and, trust me, it hurts like hell, then you might just emerge a better person and have gained a valuable friendship. 

All the best.

[JV547845]

The hypothetical daughter debate is quite fascinating.  It seems many would not like their daughter to be a prostitute but are quite happy to fuck other peoples daughters - ...

I just figure that's their decision but your hypothetical daughter could end up fucking a lot worse men than me.  You don't have to treat a WG like a sack of meat (unless that's what she's into).

[JV547845]

Your example doesn't make sense.

I was generalising, but you were generalising about daughters.  I booked a WG about a month ago who's husband can't keep up with her and who won't even lick her out spontaneously.  This lady has broken every vibrator she's ever had, gushes quite nicely and really enjoys her work.  I think her father's opinion is irrelevant. 

[CBPaul]

That stupid question has elicited over 100 replies over a couple of days and is obviously interesting enough to attract your snout into the trough

I wouldn't be too proud of achieving 1 replies, take out your own contributions and those digressing from the original point and you're nowhere near 100.

This reminds me of the poster after details of becoming a sugar daddy, berating those who didn't answer his question or didn't have specific experience and awarding a gold star to those who did. Like being back at school 

[Daffodil]

I was generalising, but you were generalising about daughters.  I booked a WG about a month ago who's husband can't keep up with her and who won't even lick her out spontaneously.  This lady has broken every vibrator she's ever had, gushes quite nicely and really enjoys her work.  I think her father's opinion is irrelevant.

You weren't generalising though, you were picking very specific examples that weren't even mutually exclusive.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Quote from: Horizontal pleasures on Yesterday at 05:04:59 pm
Arriving in this thread a little late I would ask the OP and how would you introduce her to your wife?

Good job you arrived late.......what a stupid question.

lighten up and laugh a little
this site is about tolerance and fun

[CBPaul]

The hypothetical daughter debate is quite fascinating.  It seems many would not like their daughter to be a prostitute but are quite happy to fuck other peoples daughters - even knowing that some have had an unhappy start to life. The conversations must be really interesting - " i turned to prostitution because I was abused at home and taken into care for the rest of my childhood"  " oh that's so sad girl, I really feel for you - now bend over so I can fuck your arse hard......"   I wonder whether some punters would not like their daughters to be prostitutes because they wouldn't like their girl meeting someone like them!    (this is all tongue in cheek before people get too upset).

If you brought your daughter up correctly but there were simply no jobs, would you rather she lived in a damp council flat on benefits or a nice apartment block but worked on the game part time and paid her own way in the world?

Tongue in cheek but a strong element of truth none the less. Back to my early punting and I can't see many of the girls thinking prostitution is the career for me, more like prostitution is the best option for me to get the money I need to pay the dealer. A couple of them actually asked for help and being a soft sod I did help them, a bit, after listening to them the desire to fuck had evaporated but it didn't stop me seeking others who were no doubt in the same situation. A case of choosing to ignore it and thinking you want money I want sex, that's where it ends.

Not all are products of broken homes and a crap upbringing though, some where the opposite, the products of rebelling against what they perceived as an over bearing and restrictive upbringing, crap in another way perhaps.

[Dodo]

Quote from: Horizontal pleasures on Yesterday at 05:04:59 pm
Arriving in this thread a little late I would ask the OP and how would you introduce her to your wife?

lighten up and laugh a little
this site is about tolerance and fun

Ok, take your point........it's just that the initial question had naff all to do with my partner so couldn't see any relevance in the question.

The OP was just a semi lighthearted question that has bought out so many assumptions, and comments from some who feel the question has no merit so why do they bother to get involved!

[adindas]

OP I have not tried it , so can not give first direct experience. But What I have seen or read, although it is very hard to work but it could work.

I have heard few stories of foreigners punters who were punting in Asian Countries such is in Thailand or Philippines fall in love with their escorts and they got happily married and live in punters country of origin. Some people might argue that the pressie marries the punters because of green-card attached to the punters. This could be right but could also be wrong if there is evidence that they have happily got married and have kids.

You like her, but does she like you ? You will need to make sure that she likes you and not your money.

You could test it for instance ask her to go out socializing but make it clear that you will only pay for socializing and not her time never pay for the time and in addition it might also be some presents.

This is just to minimize damage to you and you will regret for the rest of your life.

Relationship could only work if both parties want it ....

If she likes you then she might say yes, if not then forget it .....

But like many have said. Never ever pay for her time ......

[Dodo]

Adindas......Appreciate what you say but what I was referring to was nothing more than extending the bedroom part to a bit of a chat over a coffee nothing more nothing less.
Personally speaking I get far more out of a visit to a girl if, as well as being physically attractive, she is attractive as a person. To go for a coffee pre punt, as a part of the overall visit if you like, would be spot on for me.......but before anyone jumps at that remember its IMHO !!! Other opinions and views may differ!

[Daffodil]

Adindas......Appreciate what you say but what I was referring to was nothing more than extending the bedroom part to a bit of a chat over a coffee nothing more nothing less.
Personally speaking I get far more out of a visit to a girl if, as well as being physically attractive, she is attractive as a person. To go for a coffee pre punt, as a part of the overall visit if you like, would be spot on for me.......but before anyone jumps at that remember its IMHO !!! Other opinions and views may differ!

But that isn't what you said in your original post 

I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??

I've highlighted the operative word for you. Stop getting your knickers in a twist when people don't answer the question you actually wanted to ask, but were too inarticulate to express 

[Jeff_withpetersen]

Enough talk,  just ask.  Then when she says no, or offers a 'reduced rate' to sit and talk,  make a point of remembering how it feels in case you ever feel the same again mate.

[cockneybstrd]

I have 'done' social time with pro$$ie's but I have never paid for the social time only for the sex...

The only problem I see for the OP is that it does sound like he is a bit too into her which can of course go into E.A.S. area. Which of course leads to its own problem if your fucking someone whose personality you like a lot too.

If the OP wants to take her for a coffee/dinner/etc that's fine. Each punter to there own. However lines can get blurry in this kind of situation 

[cunnyhunt]

If the OP wants to take her for a coffee/dinner/etc that's fine. Each punter to there own. However lines can get blurry in this kind of situation

I do not agree, for sure his outlook will be blurred but hers will be motivated for gain.  I have found that they can not switch that part off at any time.

[cockneybstrd]

I do not agree, for sure his outlook will be blurred but hers will be motivated for gain.  I have found that they can not switch that part off at any time.

I wasnt really commenting on her more for him. I wasnt thinking of her only the OP. Of course she might do the social time for free as she thinks this will start making him make more and longer bookings

However from the OP's opening gambit I am pretty sure he has already got E.A.S for this one

[cunnyhunt]

I wasnt really commenting on her more for him. I wasnt thinking of her only the OP. Of course she might do the social time for free as she thinks this will start making him make more and longer bookings

However from the OP's opening gambit I am pretty sure he has already got E.A.S for this one

Yes I agree, he has tried to cover it with subsequent posts

[yorkshire123]

I wasnt really commenting on her more for him. I wasnt thinking of her only the OP. Of course she might do the social time for free as she thinks this will start making him make more and longer bookings

However from the OP's opening gambit I am pretty sure he has already got E.A.S for this one

How do you get EAS for a girl who has only ever given you a wank at the most.
I know there are guys who fall for any old trollop that smiles at them but they are normally under 16 years old. OP are you really a man or just a stupid little boy who thinks a prostitute who wanks off 10's of men a week will drop everything & run off into the Brummy sunset with you 

May seem harsh to some members but this guy makes a habit of stirring up shit then bolts to the safety of the "massage with extras" thread. However give him his due he is getting braver by the post, or is it just one big fantasy?

So to answer your questions OP (my opinion)

- No its not normal for your average punter to socialise with prostitutes without seeing them regularly over a period of time.
- Yes you pay the bill you tight fisted fucker
- No you shouldn't pay for her time

Example - this was his response to a question about "the best blow job"

I never run away, I just don't have a great deal of experience in that department,...... now if you asked me best HJ then that is a different question  

[Matium]

How do you get EAS for a girl who has only ever given you a wank at the most.

There's a lot of very lonely men in Britain who lead very frustrated lives because they haven't got a wife or a girlfriend and are ignored by women in general, so when a woman starts paying attention, even though she's being paid, the guy will experience an outpouring of feelings for her.

Punting + Loneliness = EAS

[yorkshire123]

There's a lot of very lonely men in Britain who lead very frustrated lives because they haven't got a wife or a girlfriend and are ignored by women in general, so when a woman starts paying attention, even though she's being paid, the guy will experience an outpouring of feelings for her.

Punting + Loneliness = EAS

Ok maybe I'm too far removed from that scenario to understand, thanks for the explanation 

[CBPaul]

Adindas......Appreciate what you say but what I was referring to was nothing more than extending the bedroom part to a bit of a chat over a coffee nothing more nothing less.
Personally speaking I get far more out of a visit to a girl if, as well as being physically attractive, she is attractive as a person. To go for a coffee pre punt, as a part of the overall visit if you like, would be spot on for me.......but before anyone jumps at that remember its IMHO !!! Other opinions and views may differ!

So having reduced the coffee scenario to a drink before punting proper why not wait until she asks if you'd like a drink and then suggest having a coffee together. You'll probably end up paying for the time but you'll get what you want. I doubt many would refuse as they'll be thinking easy money, boiling a kettle is easier than sucking cock.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

The guy just needs to ask her out, get blown out (or some ridiculous offer like 50 quid an hour for coffee) and then move on with his life.

[smoothguy69]

My story:

my main area is massage girls with HR rather than FS. im really into polish girls and have built up good rapport over the years with 3 girls. i have taken them out but never have i paid, (defeats the purpose of taking them out if i have to pay them)

first polish girl asked me out for a date, this was after my 2nd session with her (apparently i am "normal" she said), i went out a couple of times (i did not pay) but i kept emotionally detatched and cautious from the beginning. she then started wanting favours(drop me off and pick me up to the train station every day please, so on so forth) she wanted a driver rather than a boyfriend , the selfish cow. obviously did not work out, i was expecting some thing like this and dropped her.

2nd girl story : i fell for this one big time, polish massage girl offering "tantric body to body massage". after visiting her 5 times, built up rapport with her and asked her out for drinks, she agreed, met her outside her work 6 times ( dinner, drinks, club, walking and talking etc) she seemed my ideal person, i really began to fall for her, big mistake on my part, but neverthless i was living in a fantasy world, one day i txt and arranged to take her out, was waiting in the car and saw one of her clients come out of her flat, all red faced like he had a really good workout. even though i knew what she did for a living this really hurt inside me, i could not bear this side of her as i wanted her all to myself (hypocritical i know). i asked her if there is any possibility of her not doing this work, got a flat "no" for an answer. thats the last time i saw her, she refused to meet me after that incident  i had a lot of emotional pain, it took me 3 months getting over her.

3rd and current girl im seeing: another polish masage girl, much older than the previous 2 (in her 30's). saw her 2 times, she gave me her number on the condition that "we go out thats all, nothing more", shes just intrested in getting out of her flat with some company as she has to stay in from 9am till 10pm all day regardless of if she has clients or not. i have taken her out twice so far, once for diner at indian restraunt and once in local club. am hoping to take her out again tonight. i have asked her last time"what do you think of me?" she said "i like you, thats why im spending time with you but i will not have a boyfriend because of the work i do. this is better for both of us". she said it always comes down to arguments in the end with relationships as the boyfriends no matter how open minded will always resent her deep down because she spends time with 6 to 7 naked men a day.
so you see it is possible to take girls out in this profession, but be prepared for the emotional pain.
i should really find someone from civvy street but i cant help it, addicted to masage girls and getting emotionally torn apart!

[yorkshire123]

yeah i thought about that before posting, but fuck it, let them come...

No onslaught from me, great post & something the OP should have a real good read of before entering into extra prossie activity.

Number1 - is a prime example of a whats in it for her prossie
Number2 - seems to have identified a potential EAS issue & did the right thing by you.
Number3 - well time will tell but i for one hope it goes well for the two of you.

Thanks for the post 

[cockneybstrd]

I am not one to judge MrSmoothGuy69 (I hope thats a reference to you having no body hair rather than thinking your A Smooth Guy per se)

Well as you say you like to be emotionally torn apart by these women. Thats your thing and you enjoy it ... Kudos to you if you enjoy it.

One question do you ever get to fuck these massage girls you date ??

[smoothguy69]

ive fucked the first one (unpaid)
2nd and third not had sex, (kissing etc) i would love to have fucked the second one but i did not pressurise her.
third: still early days, just seeing where this will lead me...

cockneybstrd: got plently of body hair, just my nick name. i dont know why i do this with these women guess im "looking for love in all the wrong places"

[JV547845]

You weren't generalising though, you were picking very specific examples that weren't even mutually exclusive.

Not really.  They well illustrated some father's selective blindness towards their little princess's sex life.

[Sion]

There's a lot of very lonely men in Britain who lead very frustrated lives because they haven't got a wife or a girlfriend and are ignored by women in general, so when a woman starts paying attention, even though she's being paid, the guy will experience an outpouring of feelings for her.

Punting + Loneliness = EAS

This is the truth! to the OP when you first start out punting, it's because you feel lonely and you do it for the company. You say to yourself you won't get attached. after a few girls you make the mistake of asking a WG out. we've all been there. Truth is for most of us it fails badly or get shut down (and in hindsight we all appreciate this moment). If you think you like this girl, open her AW profile, have a wank and see how you feel. You will probably realise you are just lonely and horny.

If not then I feel for you, I hope you learn a lot and don't get hurt & your wallet rinsed too bad!

[smiths]

This is the truth! to the OP when you first start out punting, it's because you feel lonely and you do it for the company. You say to yourself you won't get attached. after a few girls you make the mistake of asking a WG out. we've all been there. Truth is for most of us it fails badly or get shut down (and in hindsight we all appreciate this moment). If you think you like this girl, open her AW profile, have a wank and see how you feel. You will probably realise you are just lonely and horny.

If not then I feel for you, I hope you learn a lot and don't get hurt & your wallet rinsed too bad!

Speak for yourself, i have never punted because i felt lonely and wanted company, i punt because i want to fuck pussy.

[Daffodil]

This is the truth! to the OP when you first start out punting, it's because you feel lonely and you do it for the company. You say to yourself you won't get attached. after a few girls you make the mistake of asking a WG out. we've all been there. Truth is for most of us it fails badly or get shut down (and in hindsight we all appreciate this moment). If you think you like this girl, open her AW profile, have a wank and see how you feel. You will probably realise you are just lonely and horny.

If not then I feel for you, I hope you learn a lot and don't get hurt & your wallet rinsed too bad!

I think you probably got your wording wrong there. We didn't all start out punting through loneliness/need for company. I, like smiths, have never punted for those reasons. I punt for sex and only for sex 

[socks]

This is the truth! to the OP when you first start out punting, it's because you feel lonely and you do it for the company. You say to yourself you won't get attached. after a few girls you make the mistake of asking a WG out. we've all been there. Truth is for most of us it fails badly or get shut down (and in hindsight we all appreciate this moment). If you think you like this girl, open her AW profile, have a wank and see how you feel. You will probably realise you are just lonely and horny.

If not then I feel for you, I hope you learn a lot and don't get hurt & your wallet rinsed too bad!

Nor me - I punt because I want more adventurous sex with lots of different women. Nothing to do with any emotional needs

[Matium]

yeah i thought about that before posting, but fuck it, let them come...

The difference between your post aand the OP's is that yours is sincere and heartfelt based on your experience of WGs.