Socialising with WG's

[Dodo]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

[jcdmj12]

If you want to go down that route, I'd just give her your debit card + pin now for a week or so, save yourself the heartache of what will happen later.

[Dogfather]

That way madness lies

[smiths]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

Whats normal to one punter might not be to another. I have had lunch and dinner with WGs but crucially its always been off the clock, i wouldnt and wont pay a fee to buy a WGs company for non sexual reasons. I have though on ocassion paid for the lunch or dinner, gone dutch and the WG has paid. Obviously this has been with some regulars in the main.

I also dont get attached nowadays which could be fatal, if this is something you think could happen to you my advice would be dont do it.

[Matium]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

Go to a butcher, buy a pound of lamb then put it through a mincing machine and as you do that, think of your heart taking the place of the lamb, because that is what happens when you fall in love with a prostitute.

[nigel4498]

That way madness lies

Never a truer word

[Andre 3000]

Paying a woman to be 'nice' always leads to a reality check somewhere along the line

Enjoy the nice chat and sex and leave it at that trying to meet outside of that arena will lead to egg on your face OP

[jimbobwood]

Is there any link to this lovely girl? or are you going to keep her to yourself?

I say go for it, follow your desire but you will get hurt - it's all part of the girlfriend experience!

You need to go through the pain and emotional torture, you'll come out a stronger person for it. I think most punters need to go through this process, to avoid getting emotionally attached in the future.

...or go cold turkey and never see this prossie again.

[webpunter]

The OP needs to search up EAS
Like it the comment about giving the WG card + PIN !
I've thought about giving a WG the OH's card - only coz it would be a fuck load cheaper !

[SophieScott]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

From a WG, I can tell you this does happen.  Not too often, but clients do ask to take us to dinner and things from time to time.  It would be normal practice to pay the bill and the time, this is what I do and all the girls I know do, as in any booking you are paying for the escorts time not the deeds!

I can understand why the guys are telling you not to do it though, just thought I'd add my tuppence h'penny in for what it's worth!

[Dani]

If you have only met her once the likelihood is she will charge you for this as well as you having to pay for everything unless she asked you to go for a meal with her
It's quite rare for this to happen without pay although it does happen but normally with a good regular who's company she enjoys. I do it with two regs but I wouldn't do it with any client that asks
I think you need to read the thread here on EAS as if you are thinking this after one meet then even paying to see her again is going to cause you a problem

I don't want to be rude but the likelihood she will agree to this is about as likely as me winning the euro lottery this week and I don't play it
If she felt the same attraction or feelings of friendship that you feel she would have mentioned it and asked you. Prossies are not shy little things or they couldn't do this job so if she wanted too she would have asked

[jcdmj12]

OP - read this

External Link/Members Only

It's long, but well written, and will lay out the path you have in front of you once you start having "social" expectations. 

[Minder]

op

by paying we enter a service industry, and kudos to the wg who make it an awesome experience,

I'm not sure it would be possible to find a situation were it becomes more with a wg, maybe a long term reg, wins the heart but very unlikely , but we can live in hope 

[Daffodil]

From a WG, I can tell you this does happen.  Not too often, but clients do ask to take us to dinner and things from time to time.  It would be normal practice to pay the bill and the time, this is what I do and all the girls I know do, as in any booking you are paying for the escorts time not the deeds!

I can understand why the guys are telling you not to do it though, just thought I'd add my tuppence h'penny in for what it's worth!

Nonsense 

This is just a bullshit line that gets trotted out by people who think prostitution is illegal. Your 'time' is worth next to jack shit, it's the fact that you will spread your legs for cash that brings in the wage.

[Daffodil]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

You sound like a schoolboy with a crush and that is a bad thing.

The only time you should be seeing a prossie for social time is if it's unpaid for and both sides want to do it. Even then, getting into a relationship with a prossie is daft in the extreme in my opinion.

[jcdmj12]

From a WG, I can tell you this does happen.  Not too often, but clients do ask to take us to dinner and things from time to time.  It would be normal practice to pay the bill and the time, this is what I do and all the girls I know do, as in any booking you are paying for the escorts time not the deeds!

I can understand why the guys are telling you not to do it though, just thought I'd add my tuppence h'penny in for what it's worth!

what kind of person pays £100+ an hour to buy someone dinner? 

[PolishGirlLover]

No idea if it's normal but I tried this recently with a girl as I felt we got along great. I wanted to be friends as she was my age and was cool to talk to. She said no she doesn't meet clients outside work one of her "rules." I agreed reluctantly and said I wish I'd met you outside this work instead. She often offended by this. I guess to her I was dismissing a relationship forged on her terms where she's in control. But I stopped seeing her as I either wanted her as a friend or nothing at all. I didn't want to pay her to be a buddy.

It would've been weird too meeting up only knowing each other from work. I hated to admit but it's true.

My advice try it with her and see. Best thing though is to find a girl you dig outside punting. Saves you heartache.

[AnthG]

The best thing I would do is read TawnySteeles AW profile or website as she really covers Social Escorting in some detail.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

She charges for that

One hour: £40
Each subsequent hour: £30
An extra half hour: £20

And that to me seems like a good pretty fair going rate.

I have wanted to do social escorting myself with two girls. The first girl who I mainly wanted to do it with retired just before the booking I was going to ask her (I kind of worry sometimes it may be she seen my topic asking about this and then quit straight after but I am probably being paranoid on that).

The second girl I am glad the people here convinced me not to do it as the girl in question was harbouring some kind of hatred towards me after not liking my positive review for a previous punt so that

But if you still want to go through with it, the thing I was going to do was print off Tawney Steeles profile and show it to the girl so she could get an idea of what it is and the prices she could earn and then ask her if she wanted to do that. There is probably a smoother way to do it for those with the gift of the gab, but this was my way I was planning on asking for it.

[Matium]

you are paying for the escorts time not the deeds!

Wrong.

This is Britain not America.

Prostitution is legal.

A guy is paying to have sex with you not for your time.

As a prostitute, you should know your own legal status.

[Jimmyredcab]

I took this from a girls Q & A section, it should answer the question. ---------

Q. Do you want to come out for a drink/coffee/lunch as a friend?

   A. Thanks for the offer but no and anyone who hassles me with these requests however polite will be blocked, as soon as you leave my premises our time together is over until and if you book again.

Get real, girls want your money not your company.   

[Dodo]

Some interesting responses.......thank you.

Err.....but also a lot of assumptions.

 The question was raised, not on the back of an infatuation but simply to understand if there is a protocol. The girl in question was intelligent and a great conversationalist.......now I could simply make another booking for what would undoubtedly be another wonderful visit or, as per the question, i quite fancied a non sexual environment meet over a coffee.

I'm quite capable of answering the question myself but this forum is all about other opinions.....isn't it ? 

[AnthG]

I could simply make another booking for what would undoubtedly be another wonderful visit or, as per the question, i quite fancied a non sexual environment meet over a coffee.

Which is called social escorting. And thus what I linked to.

You could if you wish just email her on AW and say, "do you possibly do social escorting which is where I pay you to just go out to a social function such as a Café or something" and see what she comes back with to that.

But by paying is the only way you are going to manage it. You would be dreaming if you think this is going to happen for free. And I say that with no offence incase you think I mean that personal to you. I don't, any punter would be dreaming if they thought that.

[Jimmyredcab]

Which is called social escorting. And thus what I linked to.

You could if you wish just email her on AW and say, "do you possibly do social escorting which is where I pay you to just go out to a social function such as a Café or something" and see what she comes back with to that.

But by paying is the only way you are going to manage it. You would be dreaming if you think this is going to happen for free.

Spot on.   

Prostitutes are in business, most already have a pimp/boyfriend/husband --------------- they don't want our company unless they are getting paid.   

[Aspen]

OP - read this

External Link/Members Only

It's long, but well written, and will lay out the path you have in front of you once you start having "social" expectations.

Good article. It also outlines the fact that once you start seeing prostitutes you will never stop.

[Jimmyredcab]

Good article. It also outlines the fact that once you start seeing prostitutes you will never stop.

Me and NIK could have told you that.     

[Aspen]

Get real, girls want your money not your company.

That's pretty much true of 99% of all women, whether WG's or not.

The only difference is that most WG's are simply the most devious, selfish and manipulative women it is possible to meet - top of the range. But often they appear that butter wouldn't melt in their mouth, but it goes with what they have chosen to do to empty other people pockets for themselves. They can sweet talk and take most men to the point of ruin without batting an eyelid.

Caveat emptor an' all that.

[Matium]

The OP should ask himself how long the prostitute he fancies will stay with him once his wallet is empty.

Anybody want to make any guesses as to how quickly she'll scarper?

 

[Jimmyredcab]

The OP should ask himself how long the prostitute he fancies will stay with him once his wallet is empty.

Anybody want to make any guesses as to how quickly she'll scarper?

 

That also applies in Thailand, they will "Love you long time" ------------------ until your cash runs out.     

[Matium]

UKP should adopt "Teaching the naive" as its motto.

[threechilliman]

The OP should ask himself how long the prostitute he fancies will stay with him once his wallet is empty.

Anybody want to make any guesses as to how quickly she'll scarper?

Faster than Usain Bolt?

tcm

[webpunter]

Quicker than ParisB's profile disappeared off AW earlier this year

[socks]

My view is that yes there is a protocol - ask if she does it and how much it costs. But before that ask yourself how vulnerable to becoming a fluffy/developing EAS you are. It happened to me once through just sex based meets. I think if I'd been doing social escorting (like that phrase) with her too I'd be a quivering wreck by now. But if I'd asked myself that question at the time I'd have said I could handle it, easily. Wrong

[pokenn]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

Hi Aspley

It's a WG's job to be an "absolute darling" and to make you feel great. Some are better at it than others. Almost certainly she will not be interested in seeing you unless you are paying for her time at £100 ph or whatever. 

Personally, I would not dream of paying a WG for having a coffee and a chat, but it's your money so you can do what you want with it. Some punters (mugs) do pay for dinner dates - that's their choice.

[Daffodil]

Hi Aspley

It's a WG's job to be an "absolute darling" and to make you feel great. Some are better at it than others. Almost certainly she will not be interested in seeing you unless you are paying for her time at £100 ph or whatever. 

Personally, I would not dream of paying a WG for having a coffee and a chat, but it's your money so you can do what you want with it. Some punters (mugs) do pay for dinner dates - that's their choice.

Agree.

Paying for a prossie to eat with me? No thanks.

[Nimrod]

I have a friend who's a prostitute. I met her in a parlour (living room), was not punting her that day and have never punted her since, I don't fancy her (she is pretty, but not "my type") but we get along really well (hence our becoming friends.)  I'm a bit older than her (no surprise there) and I suspect I've become a bit of a "source of wisdom/sounding board" figure in her life which on her part may be what drives the friendship. Anyway, that's my guess.

The friendship started with a long, random chat in said waiting room one day. She later called me and suggested a coffee (even though I'd given her my number because I'd enjoyed our conversation, I did not expect to ever hear from her again) and we now chat pretty often (weekly, at least) and meet up for lunch/coffee about as frequently as I meet with any other friend.  There is no "sex talk" between us...I don't think I am her type physically any more than she's mine...but there is a definite personality dynamic and it seems we're both happy to roll with that. I wouldn't (obviously) say she is my best friend or even a close friend, but she is absolutely as much a friend as the majority of people in my circle.

So my conclusions with regard to the thread title are 1. Yes, you can be friends with a WG...but 2. (and this is the key), NOT if you have a professional relationship with her (i.e. you punt her). She has to be a friend first. Her job has to be incidental.

She (my WG friend) does, by the way, provide an interesting window into her job (through our conversations) and less deliberately, into the mental journey a girl in this job goes through. She doesn't discuss this explicitly (we don't deliberately talk about her work) but over time I have seen her "change" as a result of her immersion into the industry.

Another interesting aside is that when she has friends who are considering entering the industry (amazingly, it seems girls do share this stuff with their mates so it does happen), she often ropes me in to have coffee with them so they can get honest answers to their questions about what to expect from the job.

[Jimmyredcab]

Agree.

Paying for a prossie to eat with me? No thanks.

I couldn't do it, I would much rather have a meal with a friend who I have known for 30 years, the conversation would probably be better as well.   

[Daffodil]

I couldn't do it, I would much rather have a meal with a friend who I have known for 30 years, the conversation would probably be better as well.   

As would I 

[NIK]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

When you wise up you might start calling them prossies rather than wg's.

It's such an insulting term towards all other women.

[Nimrod]

When you wise up you night start calling them prossies rather than wg's.

It's such an insulting term towards all other women.

Sorry, but my view is the total opposite. Prossie, or worse "pro$$ie" is by definition pejorative. In contrast, "Working Girl" normalises the prostitute...it says, as you point out, that she is like any other working women. And isn't she? Or do you consider those other women are "better" than prostitutes because they earn their money at desks, rather than on their backs? If that's the case, I can't imagine you're a very appealing client... And if those women, perhaps your wife, are better so much better than prostitutes that the same nomenclature can't be applied to them, I wonder why you have to pay prostitutes for sex in the first place?

You admonish the OP and show your true colours in the process.

[Jimmyredcab]

Sorry, but my view is the total opposite. Prossie, or worse "pro$$ie" is by definition pejorative. In contrast, "Working Girl" normalises the prostitute...it says, as you point out, that she is like any other working women. And isn't she? Or do you consider those other women are "better" than prostitutes because they earn their money at desks, rather than on their backs? If that's the case, I can't imagine you're a very appealing client... And if those women, perhaps your wife, are better so much better than prostitutes that the same nomenclature can't be applied to them, I wonder why you have to pay prostitutes for sex in the first place?

You admonish the OP and show your true colours in the process.

This is the sort of shit I expect to read on Pnet.       

[CBPaul]

Some interesting responses.......thank you.

Err.....but also a lot of assumptions.

 The question was raised, not on the back of an infatuation but simply to understand if there is a protocol. The girl in question was intelligent and a great conversationalist.......now I could simply make another booking for what would undoubtedly be another wonderful visit or, as per the question, i quite fancied a non sexual environment meet over a coffee.

I'm quite capable of answering the question myself but this forum is all about other opinions.....isn't it ? 

And opinions you got.

I can't speak for the others on here but as soon as punters start asking about coffee, lunch and dinner I would assume that EAS is taking hold. As long as your eyes are wide open to the pitfalls of infatuation as you get too close to her then all's good. Problem is most on here, me included, are not interested in coffee and a chat, just sex in it's many forms.

As far as protocol is concerned I would imagine you make a booking, say what you want to do and pay the going rate. If it's not a service sh offers then she'll say so. 

[Jimmyredcab]

And opinions you got.

Indeed, but we didn't tell him what he wanted to hear.     

[threechilliman]

When you wise up you night start calling them prossies rather than wg's.

It's such an insulting term towards all other women.

WG is so much easier to type than pro... now where's the fuckin' ah found it, $$ie.

tcm

[Nimrod]

This is the sort of shit I expect to read on Pnet.       

Jimmy, I'd expect better from you. I simply offered a clear and well-reasoned opinion. Because it may not concur with yours doesn't make it shit, and because it offers an objectively sympathetic rather than a knee-jerk judgmental view of prostitutes doesn't make me a fluffy. Trust me I'm well past romanticising WGs, but I'm not past respecting them (at least collectively, if not all of them individually.) I left PN because, as you suggest, it's become a quite frankly stomach-churning experience and I'd like to think I have something to contribute to this board even if agreement isn't possible (or likely) on all points. I don't think my post was "shit". Your dismissive response, however...

[Tony Montana]

I have recently visited an absolute darling not only in a sexual sense but she was articulate, funny and good company. I am really keen just to see her for a chat and a coffee or lunch and I guess this is a really naive question but is that normal practise ??
And, if it is does one pay for the bill and the time! ,

I would never pay a WG for social time but I've bought lunch or coffee for them a few times.  One one occasion we went to see the Uncaged Monkeys tour at Manchester Apollo (the live version of the Radio 4 program "The infinite Monkey Cage" - a geeky science & comedy show).  It was fascinating to see this gorgeous girl beside me engrossed in the workings of a German Enigma machine as she was raucous with laughter at Tim Minchin's Pope Song.

If you do get the opportunity for some free social time, go for it.  It is flattering to have a sexy young woman spend time with you because she wants to rather than because you are paying her to.  But remember, if you get emotionally attached it will end badly.

[potato]

Its very easy to stereotype a pro$$ie / WG / Escort - whatever you want to call them that makes you feel comfortable about booking them.  There are a huge variety of girls out there and it is quite possible to find those that are good company as well as being good at their job. I wouldn't think that after one visit to a girl she would be interested in a social meeting without some sort of payment no matter how stimulating the conversation was - she may just be very good at her job.

I have been lucky enough to meet one girl where we share a lot of common ground and we have socialised on a few occasions. In fact she used to pop in when she lived locally and was passing for a cuppa and a chat ( after checking it was ok of course). There is no EAS to worry about in my case, If I won the euro lottery I wouldn't be running off with her - I'd just see her more frequently and keep quiet about it!

Other one's have been great company in their professional capacity but that's all, I wouldn't dream about anything else.

[Paul31]

I normally take my regular for lunch or dinner every six weeks or so. I extend the booking by about 30 minutes so doesn't cost much more.

[Dodo]

Jimmy, I'd expect better from you. I simply offered a clear and well-reasoned opinion. Because it may not concur with yours doesn't make it shit, and because it offers an objectively sympathetic rather than a knee-jerk judgmental view of prostitutes doesn't make me a fluffy. Trust me I'm well past romanticising WGs, but I'm not past respecting them (at least collectively, if not all of them individually.) I left PN because, as you suggest, it's become a quite frankly stomach-churning experience and I'd like to think I have something to contribute to this board even if agreement isn't possible (or likely) on all points. I don't think my post was "shit". Your dismissive response, however...

Nimrod, I have to say your replies are considered and based on the question..
The likes of Jimmy, and there are many of them, just shoot of at the mouth before engaging brain.....the Jimmy's of this world do find it a tad difficult to debate as we will no doubt see from hos subsequent responses.

Anyway back to the question which has bought about some good exchanges.

Is there a clue in the job description.........Escorting !!

[Dodo]

I normally take my regular for lunch or dinner every six weeks or so. I extend the booking by about 30 minutes so doesn't cost much more.

Interesting Paul........that sounds just the kind of relationship I was talking about. I would have thought that a safe extension of the professional relationship that would not necessarily imply being besotted, as one poster has suggested.

[Jimmyredcab]

I normally take my regular for lunch or dinner every six weeks or so. I extend the booking by about 30 minutes so doesn't cost much more.

If she had any respect for you as a regular she would have the occasional meal with you at no extra charge ------------ but like most pro$$ies money is her God.