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Author Topic: The Dark Side - Prostitution and Mysogyny  (Read 3396 times)

Offline Matium

According to Rachel Moran, prostitution is tinged with mysogyny in that men do sexual acts (ie, facials) that they would never dare to do, or think to do with their wives, so that prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women.

True?

http://theprostitutionexperience.com/

Offline NIK

According to Rachel Moran, prostitution is tinged with mysogyny in that men do sexual acts (ie, facials) that they would never dare to do, or think to do with their wives, so that prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women.

True?

http://theprostitutionexperience.com/

Doubtless for some men.
But not for me.  :cool:

Offline Toby

so that prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women.

True?

You could be forgiven for thinking that of a few posters on here, who I have the image of slavering over their keyboard as they hammer out their replies. I don't think it's true of me, so I assume it's not true of everyone who punts.

Offline Matium

It would be interesting to hear from the prostitutes on UKP if they think they are victims of mysogyny?

Or is mysogyny the price to be paid for earning £120 an hour?

Offline a10

Having read her post, it strikes me as a woman who was a "good WG" and has since come to regret it. By writing tosh such as this, she's trying to absolve herself of blame.

If the "good punters" offended her so much, why take their money, why answer their phone calls and why advertise herself as a prostitute in the first place?  :dash:

I havent done anyhting on apunt I havent done in with civvies. I think women have sexual needs like men, and I dont judge them for it, and dont look down on it, I quite like it. In terms of civvies, I love a "dirty girl" and I am a dirty one myself. we are equal in it.  Punting is just paying for those physical acts. I dont know if others have different views, but thats how I see it.

I dont overthink punting. If she is advertising, willing and wants to be there and of her own free will as an adult, I dont think much more about it, just watching out for BS and B&S.

Offline pokenn

I don't do anything with WGs that I have not done with civvie girlfriends.

I also have a lot of respect for WGs. They are just working women who have made a choice.

Offline Sienna_Bronze

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Sometimes I have had the feeling that some men dislike women/prostitutes, just by their attitude and lack of respect. But then again they could just be cunts to everyone
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Sometimes I have had the feeling that some men dislike women/prostitutes, just by their attitude and lack of respect. But then again they could just be cunts to everyone

as punters we get the same feeling from escorts alot, too.

I like to indulge in certain Sexual acts because of the naughtiness factor not because of Rage. I find naughtiness to be a big turn on.

Offline socks

I read that piece a while ago and thought then, as I do now, that it's a pile of shit.

I do loads of things with WGs that I haven't done with girlfriends. I do them because girlfriends haven't wanted to and because I find them fun in the extreme. It must be lovely to live a delusion that all men are arsehole women haters, absolving yourself of any responsibility for the decisions you make, things you don't like, regrets you might have etc, in the process.

I'm a grown up making decisions about what I'd like to do with other grown ups, of our own free will, harming neither ourselves nor anyone else in the process. Bad people do bad things to vulnerable people, that's the problem, not prostitution.

Offline sam55

According to Rachel Moran, prostitution is tinged with mysogyny in that men do sexual acts (ie, facials) that they would never dare to do, or think to do with their wives, so that prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women.

True?

http://theprostitutionexperience.com/

Well, turning the question around.

I have a regular fave of mine who I get on really well with and dare i say it, respect. She is up for a facial as an optional extra but I've found myself less inclined to do it over time, although I'd have no such reservations with some dirty EE slut.  Is this significant or am I just getting a bit fluffy in my old age?

Offline smiths

According to Rachel Moran, prostitution is tinged with mysogyny in that men do sexual acts (ie, facials) that they would never dare to do, or think to do with their wives, so that prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women.

True?

http://theprostitutionexperience.com/

It might be true of some men, its certainly not true of me. IMO what shouldnt be forgotten is some if not many WGs choose to be WGs for various reasons. As adults thats their responsibility and right to make their own decisions.

As a punter i ask for the sexual services a WG freely offers me in exchange for my money, i have NO interest or wish to take my rage out on them. I havent got any rage against women per se, though i despise those WGs who lie and cheat punters.

Offline JR

Sometimes I have had the feeling that some men dislike women/prostitutes, just by their attitude and lack of respect. But then again they could just be cunts to everyone
Agree, very likely they are cunts to everyone.
In my case I have done nothing with a wg I haven't done with a civvie, its just a damn sight easier finding those willing to do it if they list it on a website  ;)
I have no 'rage' against anyone, least of all someone sucking the cum  out of me

Offline CatBBW

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According to Rachel Moran, prostitution is tinged with mysogyny in that men do sexual acts (ie, facials) that they would never dare to do, or think to do with their wives, so that prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women.

True?

http://theprostitutionexperience.com/

Ugh. No. Not true.

Sure, there are mysogynists who punt, just as there as misandrists who whore. But to give a sweeping generalisation that "prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women" is bollocks.


Offline aardvark

I haven't got a wife ............ she objected to me cumming on her face.

Offline Toby

Ugh. No. Not true.

Sure, there are mysogynists who punt, just as there as misandrists who whore. But to give a sweeping generalisation that "prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women" is bollocks.

It does serve the purpose of absolving her of any guilt that she feels for being a prostitue though.

Offline Matium

Ugh. No. Not true.

Sure, there are mysogynists who punt, just as there as misandrists who whore. But to give a sweeping generalisation that "prostitution becomes an expression of men's inner rage against women" is bollocks.

It's good to have your point of view as a WG because Rachel Moran claims she was a prostitute too and is now a campaigner against prostitution because she claims the experience of men's mysogyny brutalised her and continues to brutalise other women too.

Offline Steve2

Sometimes I have had the feeling that some men dislike women/prostitutes, just by their attitude and lack of respect. But then again they could just be cunts to everyone

Love it

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It's nonsense.  She regrets doing it and she's projecting her own experience onto every other WG.  It's fine if she wants to express how it made her feel personally, but she's putting words in other people's mouths by extrapolating her experience to others.  Of course people will lap it up because it plays into what they already believe.

Anything I do with a WG is something I would do with a girlfriend as well.

I think people totally misread things like facials or CIM.  There's this assumption that it's some kind of degradation or power thing, but for me at least it's more of a turn on because it's an intimate thing to do.

Offline Kimberly_C

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How could you tell yourself – and believe it – that I was happy to have strangers’ fingers, penises and tongues shoved into the most private parts of me?

Well, maybe she was a very good actress? The fact is, there absolutely are women who like exactly that. Some women think sex with strangers is fun and interesting. Some of those women think making money doing that is just fucking great.

I didn’t want to be held by you. I didn’t want to be cuddled. I didn’t want you close to me, never mind inside me. Your arms around me made me want to puke more than your penis ever did.

Before I read the blog post, I assumed that this was written by a woman who regrets what she did, but this makes it sound like she actually hated it while she was doing it. Not all prostitutes feel this way. I have no idea what the percentages are.

How is a punter to know she hates it if she's smiling and purring and seeming to enjoy the post-punt banter? I guess he can't. But, isn't that true of any sexual encounter? If you meet a civvie and you take her home and she's all smiles, can you be held responsible if deep inside she hates herself and is only doing it because she thinks she has to pretend to like sex with you? (I assure you that such women exist.) Of course not. You think she's having a good time. Assuming she's not under the influence and you haven't tried to manipulate her or something, you can assume you have full consent. So of course you're not a rapist.

Yes there are punters who don't like women. Even if they're not overtly violent, I have sometimes seen it in their eyes. It's not very pleasant. But this blog post was directed to "the good punter." I think it's wrong.



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Offline Matium

I suppose the crucial question is:

Did anyone here punt with Rachel Moran?

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Curious6705

Seems to me it's Rachel Moran who is expressing her inner rage at the opposite sex.

i cant claim it, but the feeling i get is she had some very bad experiences and saw all punters that way. am I the only one that got that impression?

Offline smiths

It's good to have your point of view as a WG because Rachel Moran claims she was a prostitute too and is now a campaigner against prostitution because she claims the experience of men's mysogyny brutalised her and continues to brutalise other women too.

Dr Brooke Magnanti aka Belle De Jour doesnt hold the same view of her time as a WG. As ever its one persons individual opinion, it in no way means even if true that other WGs experience the same.


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