young teen 18 Adultwork 2396662 Liverpool Rip off including threat of a Minder

[infoseeker]

young teen 18
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Goes by the name of Chloe.

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Called her during day to try and arrange a couple of half hour punts in Liverpool, the first of whom was going to be her.
Doesn't usually do 30mins but I got her to agree to do so for half price of an hour at £70.

Adultwork has 54 feebacks but is hidden I thougt I'd take the punt anyway.
Nothing on this forum on her.

During telephone discussion had recapped services that were important to me
Being Filmed - As mentioned on Q&A as well "Q. can i take pics    A. yes no probs" - I confirmed that this came with no restrictions eg like no face etc she seemed very fine with it
CIM
Swallow
French Kissing
And that is was 30mins at £70.

Comms were fine and she gave me postcode and I found it okay, never been in a flat where you need to use the intercom in the lift to be able to select a floor as well but it was, perhaps since the area has high crime? It was like a high rise apartment.
So intercom is used three times.


LOOKS
Main photo on AW currently is very unassuming face pic, girl next doorish.
Other pics don't give much away.
I think it was the girl in the pics, but she was bigger maybe size 12.  Just an average size 12 scouse girl.
Bit manky teeth which would usually put me off kissing but I went ahead anyway.

Not as good as I had hoped but enough to get me a hard on.

Had told her to wear something figure hugging like a dress, she was just dressed like a chavvy scouse girl and made a half hearted apology.

Stated age is 18, she mentioned to me she is 19 I think she might be.


RIP OFF SCRIPT
She was acting "shifty" from the outset but it was weird at times she seemed comfortable enough and genuinely horny she kept telling me how "gorgeous" I was..

I think she has a modus operandi on how to rip off punters and she was taken aback by
- How seasoned a punter I was
- Felt a bit attracted to me
So was a bit confused as to what exactly to do and forgot her "rip off" lines at times

Kissing I initiated fine.
Went to finger her she acted a bit "shifty" and confused, I didn't end up actually inserting fingers.
Whipped out my iPhone started recording for posterity again a bit "shifty" and confused on her part

Oral without delivered okayish with too much hand action but not yet rip off.
Getting good footage and she was increasingly moaning about my doing so "That is enough of that now"...?!, so rip off was ensuing, I tried to deal with it practically and avoid a direct confrontation... since it would have killed the mood my erection and defeated my objective for a half decent punt.
Somewhere along the line she mentioned the time say 5mins in trying to skim off 5mins, I dealt with it like a seasoned punter.
Normally I would start things from behind doggy but I knew it wasn't going to work due to her rip off script.

Told her take off your clothes and let us go missionary.
Key part of the rip off, as I was penetrating her she acted very "shifty" pushing me away with her hands and then goes oh look I am bleeding, it was BLATANTLY part of the script don't know what she put up there (eg some fake blood) or whether she was really on her period.
I laughed it didn't phase me since I felt like giving her CIM more then anything.
I said come her and get down there gave her some CIM whilst standing, which I wanted to get on the camera... she was like no you can't video anymore... I said the deal was filming no restrictions... she said you can't film the CIM... I have a minder in the other room.
I was like 
Call him then let me meet him perhaps we can have a threesome.

I don't think she realised unlike most punters she meets I don't mind and even quite enjoy getting into a confrontation with minders/pimps to get my monies worth... maybe she had a minder but she started to just concentrate on my dick again... I gave her a few instructions on what to do with her hands... after a while I was ready to cum said to her open up nice and wide and she did quite enthusiastically actually... some swallowed and some audibly spat.

A bit apologetic and again telling me how "gorgeous" I am.... got ready to go... chatted a bit I was in there say 25mins of my 30mins.

So for me it wasn't a total shit punt.

BUT
I can assure you it is a total and utter rip off script that she is following that was clear from the outset and throughout.
A lot of punters would have been out there in mins without cumming.
The mention of a "minder" who may or may not have been in the place was taking it to a new level, since that kind of thing I know most punters really dislike.

A Total AVOID.... does have a nice Scouse accent though. 

Chloe if you and your "minder" are reading this your game is up, get a job down McDonalds or something.

[threechilliman]

That is a totally shit punt, but you are a contributory factor. wtf are you filming it for? In a half hour punt? You can't be fucking serious!

In a half hour punt you should be nuts deep from the off with your phone nowhere to be seen.

tcm

[jackdaw]

For anybody else thinking about breaking rule 6 ("never punt anybody with hidden feedback") here's a useful tip:-

Use your mouse to keep your pointer hovering on the feedback score until pointer changes to a hand shape. Then very brief details of hidden feedback will appear.

In this case, for example, you can see "young teen" has 2 disputes on the go. That, for me, would be the clincher...not that I break rule 6 nowadays.

[Al Reet]

At least you got something from the punt IS, but your advice of avoid is sound in this case I reckon.

I remember Chloe's first profile appeared in 2012, always with some variation on the Teen 18 theme. She's made several appearances since but never seems to last long - never a good sign IMO.

Most of her positive feedback when displayed always looked dodgy to me, from the same people who had feedback from other girls who used the same premises but hardly anyone else. Some of her feedback was neg or neutral, and plenty of 'no shows'. There was recent feedback from another girl who worked from the same flat where the guy said she wasn't who he'd booked but can't find the profile now. No doubt another one will appear soon.

Chloe has used the same reason for hiding her feedback before - the old "someone left my real name / address" excuse. AW are pretty shit customer service wise, but I've known them remove feedback if asked where discretion has been compromised so there should be no reason to permanently hide it.

If I come across the other profiles I'll post them here.

If she'd have looked legit, I'd have seen her by now - as I'm sure would other regular punters in the area. Something has always stopped me - now I know what! Cheers for posting the review.

One last thing, there's a few video clips of Chloe on the porn sites, such as the one below.
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[a10]

That is a totally shit punt, but you are a contributory factor. wtf are you filming it for? In a half hour punt? You can't be fucking serious!

In a half hour punt you should be nuts deep from the off with your phone nowhere to be seen.

tcm

What? How is this any of infoseeker's fault? What's wrong with filming a half hour punt? I've filmed blowjobs in hour long punts and the film is only 10, 12 minutes long. It's up to him what he wants and he arranged over the phone before hand. It was a dodgy SP and a bad setup that's the problem not IS wanting to film the action that was agreed beforehand and agreed during the punt.

[infoseeker]

In a half hour punt you should be nuts deep from the off.....

Ignoring the filming/minder rip off the key rip off applicable to punters here is the bit about the fake blood or real blood that stopped me being "nuts deep from the off" and at any time for that matter.

One last thing, there's a few video clips of Chloe on the porn sites, such as the one below.
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Yeah that is her for sure, but a bit fatter now, certainly looks better in that video then mine.

I was actually suprised that in the Merseyside Top 100 on adultwork by escort feedback there were relatively quite a lot of girls with Being Filmed in their Enjoys List.

[threechilliman]

What? How is this any of infoseeker's fault? What's wrong with filming a half hour punt? I've filmed blowjobs in hour long punts and the film is only 10, 12 minutes long. It's up to him what he wants and he arranged over the phone before hand. It was a dodgy SP and a bad setup that's the problem not IS wanting to film the action that was agreed beforehand and agreed during the punt.

Then lets agree to disagree

tcm

[Taggart]

[... does have a nice Scouse accent though.   

Surely that's a contradiction? I've never heard a nice Scouse accent. They are all whiney bastards.

As for the punt, horrendous, and this WG has had previous bad reports, so dont think with your dick on this one.

[infoseeker]

and this WG has had previous bad reports

Where?
Seaching her ID on here nothing came up. Please advise for future reference, since for the most part I think with my brain just on this occasion I didn't find anything clear cut on this forum at least.

Surely that's a contradiction? I've never heard a nice Scouse accent. They are all whiney bastards.

Apart from the punt which could have been better and another cancelled punt I had a decent time out in Liverpool, chatted to a lot of people and girls out and about the icebreaker chat was about their colourful and rich accents.  It was just one day but I found Liverpool to be suprisingly friendly and welcoming and the people having a good sense of humour.
Met a proper fit brunette girl at the petrol station but chatting to her it became apparent she was rough as sandpaper and her friends dog was surely on a banned list or something.

I started smiling/laughing at the girl in McDonalds where I am now.
She said sweetly do I sound funny.... I said no.... you sound like Steven Gerrard... she loved it and the older lady in the queue behind me got involved in the conversation.
The girls here are fit generally but a bit working class gritty.

[infoseeker]

I think this profile is connected to this rip of bitch and her "minder"
SHY TEEN 18
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On that day when preparing for my expedition it was different it was called
STUDENT IN LIVERPOOL
With the name Erika and now it has been changed and reworded and has a lot of similarities to.  It
young teen 18
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I contacted the so called Erika on that day on the mobile displayed and she acted fine when chatting and then very weird afterwards refusing to text postcode, in hindsight it was likely since I had just contacted the young teen 18, maybe they were in the same room or something, was different girls I talked to though for sure.

If I come across the other profiles I'll post them here.

Al Reet can you confirm what seems likely that this profile is also connected to the rip off merchant.
Thanks

[Al Reet]

Correct, she's one of them and has switched profiles a couple of times. Lists bareback sometimes, others she says she doesn't do it. Clear enough from when feedback was displayed that she does. I see she uses a similar excuse to Chloe for not displaying her number.

Another girl shared the same profile but can't remember her name - clearly pics of a different girl. There was another profile with a pregnant girl and also a long dark haired girl, both of which seem to have disappeared recently.

[infoseeker]

Surely that's a contradiction? I've never heard a nice Scouse accent. They are all whiney bastards.

Was watching my video back for the first time today.
Anyone wanting to listen to a whiney Scouse whore threatening me of all people with her minder check this out
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[infoseeker]

and this WG has had previous bad reports, so dont think with your dick on this one.

Where?
Seaching her ID on here nothing came up. Please advise for future reference...

Taggart hasn't got back with his claimed "Info" even after a PM request... I dislike it when people talk crap like he just did there.

I did myself bump into this an old review and there are enough similarities which make me think it is from the same group.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=5191.0

I think a key thing to look out for is Seaforth locations and similarities in the profiles.
This whiney scouse whore was based in an high rise tower block in Seaforth.
L21 1AX
Sandy Road

[doc14]

Was watching my video back for the first time today.
Anyone wanting to listen to a whiney Scouse whore threatening me of all people with her minder check this out
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now that is a whiney voice!

[Glenross]

Horrible accent & that's coming from a scouser!! Luckily any decent scouse bird will not develop that shitty version version of the accent. I worked in some rough parts of liverpool years ago & this is the way some of them speak nowadays. Certainly not a typical scouse accent.

[infoseeker]

Listened to it again.
Hilarious, people sitting next to me are asking me why I'm laughing. 

[Glenross]

She is fucking vile! I had her on my hot list. Thank god for this site. Keep up the good work people.

[infoseeker]

I'm still cracking up at it. 

She is fucking vile! I had her on my hot list. Thank god for this site. Keep up the good work people.

Glenross as a grateful punter please try to add your own review or feedback in the near future..... or..... I'll get my minder from next door... I'll just give him a shout.... 

Look forward to your your reviews and feedback. Thanks

[Daffodil]

Was watching my video back for the first time today.
Anyone wanting to listen to a whiney Scouse whore threatening me of all people with her minder check this out
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Brilliant 

[spartanwizard]

Haha quality. Best post I've seen for a long while!!

[redjaguar]

Think I would have gone for just oral in the session so she could whine on anymore

[bakerted]

I can see it now - Harry Hill's TV Burp/You've Been Framed

Harry dressed as scouse,chav prossie

infoseeker v Minder next door - Who's going to win? There's only one way to find out - FIGHT!

 

[jasper]

Some great stuff from Infoseeker, on this thread, love the recording 

Having checked out the video on xhamster, it got me wondering if there are many more vids out there of local working girls ???

Also, whats the chances of infoseeker uploading a video or two?

................

On a seperate note 10/10 for standing up to the girl, when she threatened you with muscle in the next room 

[redjaguar]

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Girl is a bloody nightmare.
 I am sure this poor guy is a disabled punter so they well took advantage.

Red Jag

[FloppySock]

Same photos on a profile from a while back, based in Kent and/or Norwich I think (offering bareback at the time) External Link/Members Only. That comes back as AGE-18-TEEN-GIRL, but my records show her as CUTE-TEEN-18.

She had a skanky female friend in many of her profile pictures - a reddish brunette with hair to just below shoulders. Barbed wire tat on her left arm. Can't think of her name right now.

[socks]

Great thread well done Info seeker, proof if ever needed of why this forum is so valuable. Not understanding the reference to filming not being right in half hour punts and therefore being a contributory factor though? Am I missing something?

[Gordo987]

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Cute face, she could probably do a good school girl role play (if you are into that kind of thing) and she has a mouth just asking to be spunked in, if only to stop her whinging scouse accent. Can't stand it myself. 

[tel_house]

She has turned up in Southampton, I was considering seeing her looking at te photos but the hidded feedback and her comment : "The reason why i have hidden my feedback is because some silly man put my Street name on my feedback, but if you read my "Field Reports", they give an unbiased view of all things about me.
Please click on the links on the right hand side of the page dated 29/07/2014~~9/06/2014~~31/05/2014~~22/04/2014 they give a Great account of what people have said about me " made me think twice.

Thanks IS for the review, jut shows how useful UKP is.

TH

[Frenchguy]

Great review, thanks for the insight.  I'll certainly think twice when there is hidden feedback and probably not book the girl.

[Fabaceous]

She may be back on the scene.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=55811.0

[Yoda69]

Hehehe I might go see her just to meet the 'minder' haven't had a decent scrap in ages lol

[Ben4454]

Got to love  the ol' minder in the other room chestnut.

Punt sounds like a nightmare which you handled well.

[MJ.spritzen]

she was like no you can't video anymore... I said the deal was filming no restrictions... she said you can't film the CIM... I have a minder in the other room.
I was like 
Call him then let me meet him perhaps we can have a threesome.

Mate, you must have balls of steel. Or you're build like a brick shithouse. If she mentioned a minder with me i probably wouldve mouthfucked her to completion and be done with it.

Any chance of sharing the whiney message again if you still have it? The link has expired. Glad for this review, she's been on my "TO DO" list for a while now.