Energy bills

[smiths]

Yep, not so difficult is it, but like everything else, big business convinces us our lives are so busy and they can make it easier for us, at a cost of course  , How long does it take to read a meter and input reading? 5 minutes? When you are home anyway 

Not thought about the trust issues, but as others have said these things fail regularly, how accurate are they? A regular meter is calibrated and sealed, I assume these things are too? But do they record at the same rate as old meters?

Too many doubts about the things for me, not least the reasoning behind them, big business are not in business to save you money and all about profits.
One way or another, even if we use less, they will find a way to maintain profits, and they can do it with peak charging but only if you have a smart meter.

2 mins to read my Electric Meter and 5 mins to read my Gas meter. I also love the way these fucktards and to be perfectly honest less than 1% i have spoken to at British Gas about my Gas havent been fucktards, always try to get me to have a smart meter. All part of the script they are reading from.

I ring my quarterly readings through as that suits me at 9am on the day its due knowing i can always get straight through as they open. Leave it an hour and there might be a 40 min wait while they read the Sun. Another good thing for me with this is they create the bill while i am on the phone so i can agree or not with the cost. I then check their automated services to check they have taken the correct amount which to be fair they have always done in recent years. I prefer to have a credit on my utilities so they take the cost of the bill out of that so dont need to take it by direct debit, which is quicker for them seeing as they give 14 days to claim a DD but get my bill owed money that day.

I certainly dont trust them or the regulator or whoever gave the go ahead for small energy companies with hardly any resources to operate which then left many people stranded when they very quickly went bust. I stuck with the 2 of the the big 5 and thats proven to be wise in hindsight. And by luck though i did regularly check for new fixed deals i got a good one from British Gas less than a month before the energy crisis struck which runs till the end of May 2023. British Gas have always in my experience been useless if you ask them any questions apart from how much the bill is. The only company worse than them was Virgin Mobile but i gave them the elbow some time ago.

[smiths]

So I see the fuckwits at British Gas have sent me e-mails this morning saying my account has been moved over to their "new system" complete with new customer reference numbers, Why 

So I log on to find that the new system is indicating I don't have any direct debits set up; my payment history has gone missing; my billing and usage history is nowhere to be seen etc etc 

My balance is apparently zero on both accounts despite being in credit following them hiking up my direct debits which apparently don't exist anymore

Then as predicted when you start to navigate the BG website it starts sending you round in circles FFS 

Perhaps it will sort itself out but wouldn't you have thought they would get the system working properly and transfer across all information before going live 

Interesting, a few years ago i took all contact info for me except my billing address off their systems at British Gas, it took about 6 weeks to stop getting anything, but i will look out for any letter telling me similar to what the emails to you said.

BG are an amazingly inefficent bunch of cunts only surpassed by Virgin Mobile who i no longer have dealings with so i am sadly not surprised to hear of their incompetence. I hope it gets sorted out.

Another thing i have found is BG now dont care about offering any kind of good customer service as many customers are stuck with them like me, knowing they cant easily change now. I just checked my balance using their automated service its correct fortunately, at present.

[smiths]

I'm in credit on both gas and electricity, roughly a couple of hundred quid combined. Is it worth leaving it, as a little buffer against the next price increase?

I always leave a few hundred quid credit with Gas, Electric and Water, plus TV licence a year in advance as that all suits me. Only problem i had money wise is once the Water company sent me a cheque for the credit i had once the last bill i had had been paid. I just rang them up and said i have that credit on my account for a reason so please dont refund me again unless i ask you to. Then a jobsworth started going on about money laundering and hiding assets. I was only £100 in credit at that time, fucking moron. In my case they dont have any contact details for me except my billing address hence a cheque.

[JontyR]

I think I read that Ovo pay interest to you on your balance.

[Moby Dick]

You know what’s coming.
If you don’t get a smart meter you will be put on a higher tariff.
Just like they penalise you for having paper statements, or don’t set up a direct debit.
And at some point they will charge you for a smart meter installation.

Think I’ll get loads of solar panels and a wind turbine, become self sufficient.

[daviemac]

You know what’s coming.
If you don’t get a smart meter you will be put on a higher tariff.
Just like they penalise you for having paper statements, or don’t set up a direct debit.
And at some point they will charge you for a smart meter installation.

Think I’ll get loads of solar panels and a wind turbine, become self sufficient.

They already do something similar, prepaid meters are on the highest tariff and are normally used by those who can least afford it. 

[smiths]

You know what’s coming.
If you don’t get a smart meter you will be put on a higher tariff.
Just like they penalise you for having paper statements, or don’t set up a direct debit.
At some point they will charge you for a smart meter.

Think I’ll get loads of solar panels and a wind turbine, become self sufficient.

I agree this will happen at some point, it will be made compulsory to have a smart meter, probably some cobbled together bullshit about it being better for the environment. But i cant see that happening in the short term. British Gas dont penalise me for wanting a paper statement, they do charge more if you dont have a direct debit set up though, but as i always have a credit enough to cover my quartely bills on my account they dont use it to take the money owed, they take it out of the credit balance immediately the bill is created which means they get that bill paid quicker than the 14 days they give to claim a DD. But anyway they have my credit earning 0.0000000.1% interest.

Another thing that is going to happen over time i think is it will be compulsory to have a Water Meter, for me it works out cheaper than not having one but for some especialy people with kids so they do a lot of washing/using the bath it will cost more. That again will be sold on it been done for environment reasons. Having a bath costs 8 times more on average than taking  a shower according to my water company.

[smiths]

They already do something similar, prepaid meters are on the highest tariff and are normally used by those who can least afford it.

Indeed, the 6 monthly regulator reviews on prepay meters that came in a few years ago were to ensure the companies werent over charging those on prepay meters. It hasnt worked as my mate who is on 1 and cant get a credit meter now pays at least double what she did before. 

She would save money if she could get a credit meter but the saving would now be a lot less than it would of been before the crisis.

[radioman33]

People on PAYG meters,where you top up with a key or card,can get a smart meter the benefit of this is it allows them to pay by “pay as you go”or chose a different method like dd.Previously the meter had to be changed.If they don’t like it they go back to PAYG.A benefit of a smart meter.

[lillythesavage]

Having a bath costs 8 times more on average than taking  a shower according to my water company.

How can they justify that statement ?

How do they know the water flow of the shower and how long you stay under it? Absolute bollocks 

[lillythesavage]

People on PAYG meters,where you top up with a key or card,can get a smart meter the benefit of this is it allows them to pay by “pay as you go”or chose a different method like dd.Previously the meter had to be changed.If they don’t like it they go back to PAYG.A benefit of a smart meter.

I have friends on pre pay, not smart meters, that swear they are paying no more now than before the increase, does not make sense to me, but they claimed this long before the heating was not needed.  .

I can only assume the meter has not been adjusted and 50 quid still gives them the same amount of energy it did before. 

[Henry767]

How can they justify that statement ?

How do they know the water flow of the shower and how long you stay under it? Absolute bollocks 

That 8 times figure may have been close at one time, but shower outputs are much greater now and, as you say, a precise figure is not possible. But what is true is that with a shower you have the opportunity to use a lot less water and energy than a bath, if you choose to or have to economize.

[Gordon Bennett]

Indeed, the 6 monthly regulator reviews on prepay meters that came in a few years ago were to ensure the companies werent over charging those on prepay meters. It hasnt worked as my mate who is on 1 and cant get a credit meter now pays at least double what she did before. 

She would save money if she could get a credit meter but the saving would now be a lot less than it would of been before the crisis.

Since 2017, prepayment meters were only ever marginally more expensive than direct debit tarriffs. In August 2021 (ie before the current crisis started) the difference was about 50p per week. Cheapest direct debit tariff: £1,032 Cheapest prepayment tariff: £1,058.

Those on prepayment meters are very fond of blaming their tarriffs for their "astronomical bills" when frankly it is their usage that is the issue cos they're getting charged virtually the same per kWh than everyone else is. Prior to 2017 the differential was bigger but it was more about them being stuck on the SVR and not having access to deals and cheap fixes than the "prepayment meters". But, as I've said, since 2017 they have had access to fairly priced tarriffs that have levelled the playing field.

[Moby Dick]

How can they justify that statement ?

How do they know the water flow of the shower and how long you stay under it? Absolute bollocks 

I like at least 10minutes in the shower.
Temperature being the same would mean it would take 80minutes to fill up the bath with a shower head. That sounds excessive. It would be cold by the time it’s full.
I can only assume you mix less cold water in a bath than a shower.

[WASA38]

When I run a bath I source the cold water via the shower unit rather than from the cold tap. In my house the former is sourced from a tank in the loft whilst the latter is from the rising main. As a consequence the 'cold' water is relatively tepid, especially in the warmer months of the year, and hence the proportion of expensively heated water is much reduced.

Maximising the throughput of water through the loft tank is good practice anyway;less chance of getting Legionnaire disease !

[JontyR]

One thing on Water Meters, if you can't get one fitted because of the way the building was set up you then get put on a different tarriff which is about half of the standard one.

[smiths]

I have friends on pre pay, not smart meters, that swear they are paying no more now than before the increase, does not make sense to me, but they claimed this long before the heating was not needed.  .

I can only assume the meter has not been adjusted and 50 quid still gives them the same amount of energy it did before. 

Yes with older PAYG meters the company cant put the new tariff costs on it until the customer next tops up. So in my mates case she topped up the full £249 and wont pay the new costs until she next tops up. What her company has done in the past is write to her saying when she next tops up after not doing so for a long time after a price rise she will incur a debt. Well in practice they have never charged her such a debt.

[smiths]

How can they justify that statement ?

How do they know the water flow of the shower and how long you stay under it? Absolute bollocks 

They dont justify it, they just say thats an average.

[smiths]

People on PAYG meters,where you top up with a key or card,can get a smart meter the benefit of this is it allows them to pay by “pay as you go”or chose a different method like dd.Previously the meter had to be changed.If they don’t like it they go back to PAYG.A benefit of a smart meter.

Well my mate cant do that as she failed their credit check so the only thing on offer to her was a PAYG meter, they wouldnt allow her a credit meter or to pay by DD. Perhaps some other companies do that.

[smiths]

Since 2017, prepayment meters were only ever marginally more expensive than direct debit tarriffs. In August 2021 (ie before the current crisis started) the difference was about 50p per week. Cheapest direct debit tariff: £1,032 Cheapest prepayment tariff: £1,058.

Those on prepayment meters are very fond of blaming their tarriffs for their "astronomical bills" when frankly it is their usage that is the issue cos they're getting charged virtually the same per kWh than everyone else is. Prior to 2017 the differential was bigger but it was more about them being stuck on the SVR and not having access to deals and cheap fixes than the "prepayment meters". But, as I've said, since 2017 they have had access to fairly priced tarriffs that have levelled the playing field.

Certainly not the case in my mates case, she was paying especially before the energy crisis a hell of a lot more per unit and standing charge than if she had been on a credit meter with the same company.

It isnt just usage that is the problem, its the standing charge where you cant save money on it So yes a person may be able to save money om usage but cant on standing charge and in my mates case even though she isnt yet paying the new rates that came in in April the standing charge has gone up a lot, same as the unit price.

[radioman33]

Well my mate cant do that as she failed their credit check so the only thing on offer to her was a PAYG meter, they wouldnt allow her a credit meter or to pay by DD. Perhaps some other companies do that.

She just tells her company she wants to be on Payg with a smart meter.Get the old key one replaced.Im not sure about credit checking.

[smiths]

She just tells her company she wants to be on Payg with a smart meter.Get the old key one replaced.Im not sure about credit checking.

They counted paying by DD as part of their credit checks which she failed, so they told her she couldnt pay any other way apart from by key, but nowadays they offer an App so she doesnt have to go to a Paypoint to top up.

[radioman33]

Smart Payg App means when you run out at 5 am you top up indoors instead of walking to the newsagents.

[tynetunnel]

I left British Gas over a decade ago and I’ll never go back. Dreadful websites and a bunch of absolute fuckwits!

[Dipper]

£300 or so monthly on average  come October.

 

Mass non payment groups have been formed.

[belfastpunter]

In Nothern Ireland there are only 2 providers SSE Airtricity and PowerNI. No price comparison sites here.
They are both cunts. Neither of them will tell you what their rate is. It hidden on the web site. When you do find it, it's to complex to understand, i.e. 4 or more rates with nonsence t's and c's like "based on x % discount, limited to £60...."  Either I have to phone and ask or wait for my bill as its printed on that.

[Marmalade]

I'm in credit on both gas and electricity, roughly a couple of hundred quid combined. Is it worth leaving it, as a little buffer against the next price increase?

They may of course, go up even more. Newspapers today even suggest the supply may require rationing next winter. I got a ‘friendly’ letter from Octopus saying “let’s get your payments on track” (I’ve been on a fixed monthly direct debit). They explain that I “don’t need to do anything” but my bills will TRIPLE.

[Thephoenix]

Sunak pledges to scrap Vat on household energy bills.

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[Marmalade]

Sunak pledges to scrap Vat on household energy bills.

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Maximum vat is what, 20%? And some businesses are only paying 5% anyway.

So if my bill has increased by 200%, from £1000 to £3000 a year, and I get 20% off — or if I qualify for a maximum handout (which I’m pretty sure I won’t) then that means it has merely much more than doubled.

As I hinted perhaps on the hypersonics thread, I would really like to see Mr Sunak’s spreadsheet for all of this and how the benefits to Ukraine, or knock-on benefits to us, are somehow proportional.

[Marmalade]

The Independent newspaper:
Energy bills set to hit £500 a month in January as Russia squeezes European gas supplies
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[Blackpool Rock]

Maximum vat is what, 20%? And some businesses are only paying 5% anyway.

So if my bill has increased by 200%, from £1000 to £3000 a year, and I get 20% off — or if I qualify for a maximum handout (which I’m pretty sure I won’t) then that means it has merely much more than doubled.

As I hinted perhaps on the hypersonics thread, I would really like to see Mr Sunak’s spreadsheet for all of this and how the benefits to Ukraine, or knock-on benefits to us, are somehow proportional.

VAT on household energy bills is already 5% so the saving will be less than you hoped

[shaft10]

The Independent newspaper:
Energy bills set to hit £500 a month in January as Russia squeezes European gas supplies
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It's staggering how anyone (in Governments) didnt see this coming .. a blatantly obvious ploy to erode western support for the Ukraine war effort, and if this level of increases materialises then they'll only be one winner .. because once it starts hitting peoples pockets attitudes will change ..

Putin aint daft .. he has what the rest of Europe rely on ...

*but he can't buy a BigMac 

[Blackpool Rock]

It's staggering how anyone (in Governments) didnt see this coming .. a blatantly obvious ploy to erode western support for the Ukraine war effort, and if this level of increases materialises then they'll only be one winner .. because once it starts hitting peoples pockets attitudes will change ..

Putin aint daft .. he has what the rest of Europe rely on ...

*but he can't buy a BigMac

That's always been an effective strategy / tactic of war to cut off the supply lines until the enemy either can't fight anymore or decides to give in.

I'm sure they said on the news a couple of days ago that wholesale gas prices have gone up over 500% so if Putin only sells 1/5 of what he was before then he's still not out of pocket.

I was banging on 5 or 10 years ago about how the UK needed to be energy self sufficient, not so much for the Green aspect but because we shouldn't be reliant on Putin   

[Adoniron]

That's always been an effective strategy / tactic of war to cut off the supply lines until the enemy either can't fight anymore or decides to give in.

I'm sure they said on the news a couple of days ago that wholesale gas prices have gone up over 500% so if Putin only sells 1/5 of what he was before then he's still not out of pocket.

I was banging on 5 or 10 years ago about how the UK needed to be energy self sufficient, not so much for the Green aspect but because we shouldn't be reliant on Putin 

We are less reliant on Russian gas than the EU.

However we get 75% of our energy from fossil fuels, which is higher than most other countries, so we will end up paying more for gas as we will be chasing the same supplies as the EU countries.

[lillythesavage]

That's always been an effective strategy / tactic of war to cut off the supply lines until the enemy either can't fight anymore or decides to give in.

I'm sure they said on the news a couple of days ago that wholesale gas prices have gone up over 500% so if Putin only sells 1/5 of what he was before then he's still not out of pocket.

I was banging on 5 or 10 years ago about how the UK needed to be energy self sufficient, not so much for the Green aspect but because we shouldn't be reliant on Putin 

I do not think we are reliant on Russian gas, the EU are, but price is determined by the markets so everyone pays more no matter where it comes from. 

[Blackpool Rock]

We are less reliant on Russian gas than the EU.

However we get 75% of our energy from fossil fuels, which is higher than most other countries, so we will end up paying more for gas as we will be chasing the same supplies as the EU countries.

Yes we don't get much gas directly from Russia however as you say energy is traded on the world market.

I was surprised to hear on the news the other day that we are more reliant on fossil fuels than other countries, I know France has a lot of Nuclear but other countries like Poland still mainly use coal AFAIK

[sir wanksalot]

The US is largely energy dependant primarily because of shale gas.

At what stage does fracking becoming a central topic of discussion?

[Blackpool Rock]

The US is largely energy dependant primarily because of shale gas.

At what stage does fracking becoming a central topic of discussion?

Well the Govt did roll back on the ban, think I posted earlier on this thread that they said the wells near Blackpool didn't need to be capped after all.

However it would take years to get any gas out commercially and the amount they would get isn't even a small dent in how much we need.

Far quicker; cheaper and easier to throw up more solar and wind, we need a quick fix so realistic options are limited

[Marmalade]

That's always been an effective strategy / tactic of war to cut off the supply lines until the enemy either can't fight anymore or decides to give in.

I'm sure they said on the news a couple of days ago that wholesale gas prices have gone up over 500% so if Putin only sells 1/5 of what he was before then he's still not out of pocket.

I was banging on 5 or 10 years ago about how the UK needed to be energy self sufficient, not so much for the Green aspect but because we shouldn't be reliant on Putin 

Thanks for pointing out the vat is less — though as it means a smaller reduction I can’t say it makes me feel better. I also mentioned the gas problem when the Ukraine war started. Most of the gas comes from Russia, directly or indirectly I understand, and the gas that doesn’t is similarly affected price-wise as a knock on effect of any shortage. As you point out, it’s fuck all to do with whether Putin is a bastard. If you’re in a fight, there’s no point in coddling an opponent. No-one’s that daft.

[petermisc]

Far quicker; cheaper and easier to throw up more solar and wind, we need a quick fix so realistic options are limited

Except that it is not a quick fix, as it only solves part of the problem.  In reality, we are always going to need something more than just solar and wind, to cover the times when there is no sun or wind.  There are already many days when our total supplies are met from green sources, when extra wind and solar supplies would not be needed.  The more and more solar and wind farms we build, the less productive they will become, as there will be increasing times when we will be paying them not to generate as we can't use the supply.

I do agree that we need to be self-sufficient, not only of Russia, but of the EU as well.  It is going to be painful for the EU to wean itself off Russian supplies, and keeping our electricity supplies going is not going to be much of a priority for the EU now.

[lillythesavage]

Yes we don't get much gas directly from Russia however as you say energy is traded on the world market.

I was surprised to hear on the news the other day that we are more reliant on fossil fuels than other countries, I know France has a lot of Nuclear but other countries like Poland still mainly use coal AFAIK

If you believe it, none of our gas comes from Russia, around 50% from the North Sea, a third of the remainder from Norway and the rest from shipped in LNG from the US and Middle east.

North Sea production has been reduced in recent years making us reliant on other markets, does not make much sense now 

We get bashed by the Green lobby because we take it all in, while in most of the world it is carry on regardless, our little Island is not going to solve a global problem  .

Removal of green taxes/charges would do far more to help than removing VAT and would reduce VAT paid anyway. If any other business wants to change to greener working practices it is at their expense, no doubt passed on by the cost of the product or service, but not paid for by a levy on customers. 

[RadioKid]

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So Shell just reported record profits.

[Marmalade]

What is annoying about a lot of the promises to help people is that either most of the money is taken back another way or the eligibility criteria makes it hard to obtain or any benefit means being subjected to some third degree examination of the person’s finances as if the person is evil for asking.

Take the much heralded 650 quid cost-of-living payment in the news today (together with a picture of a middle-income elderly couple looking happily surprised).

The truth is that unless they’re getting less than the state pension and aren’t on housing benefit there’s fuck all chance of them seeing it. It strikes me that Mr Sunak’s grand energy giveaways may be of the same ilk: a grand P.R. stunt that won’t cost him much and be of minimal benefit, if any, to the millions who are rubbing their hands.

What I’d like see is all homeless people off the street. Facilities to see no-one starves. But also realising we must support the best in our society, not just the poorest, laziest or stupidest. Rid universities of wokism and instigate mandatory protections on free speech. Remove students’ rights to protest in large groups — if they’re intelligent enough or have a first degree let them get their views in respected academic journals, and see how defendable their angst-filled ideas are. Incentivise the grants and loans system to keep the brightest students in this country after qualifying. Develop special education streaming in schools for children of high intelligence. Increase incentives (eg awards and public honours) in needed subjects, especially science and mathematics. Make development of individual excellence (rather than individual opinion) the core of education at all levels.

[Blackpool Rock]

Except that it is not a quick fix, as it only solves part of the problem.  In reality, we are always going to need something more than just solar and wind, to cover the times when there is no sun or wind.  There are already many days when our total supplies are met from green sources, when extra wind and solar supplies would not be needed.  The more and more solar and wind farms we build, the less productive they will become, as there will be increasing times when we will be paying them not to generate as we can't use the supply.

I do agree that we need to be self-sufficient, not only of Russia, but of the EU as well.  It is going to be painful for the EU to wean itself off Russian supplies, and keeping our electricity supplies going is not going to be much of a priority for the EU now.

I agree it's not an instant solution to solve everything, they also need to look at using excess energy from wind and solar to produce green hydrogen which can be burnt to produce electric when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.

Time for some joined up thinking and forward planning, the next PM needs to be brave and take control of making some bold decisions regarding energy
Our previous lack of action taking the bull by the horns as it all costs too much has again ended up costing us more and still needs doing anyway

[sir wanksalot]

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So Shell just reported record profits.

They will all be posting record profits.

Can someone explain to me how energy companies can possibly defend against accusations of profiteering when they are posting record profits??

[Blackpool Rock]

They will all be posting record profits.

Can someone explain to me how energy companies can possibly defend against accusations of profiteering when they are posting record profits??

I know people think it's the likes of British Gas etc making shed loads of money from this but lots of the energy providers have gone bust so I don't think they are necessarily making bucket loads.

Isn't it the Big boys like Shell and BP who extract the oil / gas then sell it on the international markets at the current inflated price who are coining it in 
Not sure what the latest is on a windfall tax for these companies 

Edit - Reading my post back it looks like i'm contradicting you but that wasn't the intention, i'm agreeing with you but adding that I think it's some but not all of the "provision network"

[lillythesavage]

They will all be posting record profits.

Can someone explain to me how energy companies can possibly defend against accusations of profiteering when they are posting record profits??

They are losing money on domestic supply because of price caps, but the record profits are because of those involved in selling on the wholesale market.
All goes to prove that a little unrest is a good excuse to fill your boots, and they are all doing it.

[Thephoenix]

They will all be posting record profits.

Can someone explain to me how energy companies can possibly defend against accusations of profiteering when they are posting record profits??

'British Gas owner hands billions to shareholders as customers face huge increases in bills'
(Yahoo finance today)
Centrica has seen profits increase 5 fold during the energy crisis.
The company posted a £1.3 billion in the first six months of the year,  from £262 million from the same period in 2021.

[lillythesavage]

I know people think it's the likes of British Gas etc making shed loads of money from this but lots of the energy providers have gone bust so I don't think they are necessarily making bucket loads.

Isn't it the Big boys like Shell and BP who extract the oil / gas then sell it on the international markets at the current inflated price who are coining it in 
Not sure what the latest is on a windfall tax for these companies 

Edit - Reading my post back it looks like i'm contradicting you but that wasn't the intention, i'm agreeing with you but adding that I think it's some but not all of the "provision network"

Centrica that own British Gas have posted record profits too, but will be paying no tax for the British Gas arm as it lost money. Centrica are French owned I believe so doubt we will see any tax on profits either.

Any windfall tax will be clawed back one way or another, maybe another hike in wholesale prices, it is those that pull it out of the ground who decide how much gets to market and therefore the price.

During lockdowns they could not give oil away, now it is a scarce commodity, fuel got down to under a quid a litre, 57.5p I think is correct for fuel duty then, 20% Vat, the actual cost at the pumps was around 28p a litre and they were still making money.

[RadioKid]

Seeing Sunack and Truss going at each other like a pack of rabid animals regarding the economy really is reaching satirical levels.

They've had over a decade in power now and all we've seen their mates get cushy government contracts. The claims expenses are getting more and more ridiculous.

Sunack's millionaire wife wasn't paying tax and Truss is claiming Amazon Prime as an expense.

Is it so hard to to ask for a selfless administrative government that actually cares?

I've a feeling this energy crisis is going to get worse before it gets better.