Just about retired I'm afraid.

[NIK]

Well I didn't intend for this to develop into another bickering thread about prices. Maybe some of the posts need moving to a new thread?

[Lurtz]

Well I didn't intend for this to develop into another bickering thread about prices. Maybe some of the posts need moving to a new thread?

If girls were cheaper, would you be retiring from punting?

[RedAlertTourist]

Well I didn't intend for this to develop into another bickering thread about prices. Maybe some of the posts need moving to a new thread?

NIK didn't you say- you are being forced to retire from punting due to Financial woes and that you can only afford one last punt?

In any recession where the Economy/Job Market isn't great the first thing people cut back on is expensive hobbies or uncessary expenditure- and stick to only buying things that are needs (food, rent, heating and utility bills, Car, clothes and days out).

Thats a common theme with a lot of Men punters or not- but maybe the potential damage to our Egos by admitting we are (temporarily) struggling.

Escorts aren't a "need" at all and their stupid justifications that Gas, Petrol Food Prices are up is just plain idiocy and is an irrlevant argument (You CAN live without an Escort. But you CANNOT live without Gas, Food, Rent, Clothing, Petrol or Car).
Escorts bookings are down- this is proven via them taking bookings a mere 15 minutes before hour long punts. If they dropped their prices they'd get more bookings- simples

[James999]

Contrary to popular belief the average annual wage vs the population in the UK is £10,000 per year-

The minimum wage is higher than that 

The average Annual wage is around £26,000 

[yumyum3]

IMO I'd be "ok" to pay £50 per hour for an Escort tops. And thats an informal hour- so no clock watching or any of this 45 minute and a shower bollocks.
I mean a full 60 minutes shagging- plus an ADDITIONAL 15 minutes introduction, drink, paperwork and shower. Then another 10 minutes afterwards shower.

That's the spirit, Red A T Like you say, its still much more money than most people can earn. And compared to a young soldier and what that entails its a fortune. I'm assuming that's why so many foreign girls come over - they can't believe their luck I shouldn't wonder. Perhaps the men in their own countries aren't so daft as to pay extortionate prices for sex like the idiots on PN who write field reports on average punts that they just forked out 300 quid for

[Jimmyredcab]

The minimum wage is higher than that 

The average Annual wage is around £26,000 

You could be right but that is because some people earn £50K a week.

Try finding a job on £26,000 a year with no skills and no qualifications, you will struggle I promise you.

[Jimmyredcab]

It's a very good post because at the end of the day, for prostitutes, it is all about the MONEY. The attraction is the MONEY. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. It's not about talking up prices, men will pay what they want to pay regardless of what the Jimmyredcabs of the world think. 

Totally predictable, prostitutes will always stick together.   

[James999]

Try finding a job on £26,000 a year with no skills and no qualifications, you will struggle I promise you.

Bus Driver is an example that springs to mind, no qualifications, and by the way they drive clearly no skills, Tube drivers earn north of £40k and again no real qualifications or Skills.

Bur we are talking the lower paid jobs here, when you get into sensible earnings then skills and qualifications are required, the point is valid though as even a pretty rough pro$$ie can earn £50 and with her benefits, free housing and not having to pay tax that means someone would have to earn probably £100k to have the same disposable income, thats not bad for someone with no skills, training or qualifications. 

[Jimmyredcab]

Bus Driver is an example that springs to mind, no qualifications, and by the way they drive clearly no skills, Tube drivers earn north of £40k and again no real qualifications or Skills.

Tube drivers are grossly overpaid, thanks to Bob Crowe but are there any vacancies. ???

I repeat ---------

"Try finding a job on £26,000 a year with no skills and no qualifications, you will struggle I promise you."

Some people send off hundreds of job applications without success.   

[James999]

Didn't I just give two examples above, ok Tube driver is probably not that easy to get into but Bus driver is and thats £25k / £26k a year, or even Mini Cabbing.

As for people sending out hundreds of applications, there isa big difference between sending out CVs / Applications and actually wanting a job, everyone knows if you want  ajob you have to get off yoru arse and get one, if you are happy on the social then just send out endless CVs to keep the job centre 

[Jimmyredcab]

Didn't I just give two examples above, ok Tube driver is probably not that easy to get into but Bus driver is and thats £25k / £26k a year, or even Mini Cabbing.

Mini Cabbing is not a job, it is being self employed, no holiday pay, no sick pay plus you would need a few thousand pounds to get started. 

[GlasgowGirl]

Not to mention having unprotected sex oral sex with multiple Men is something women do in their private lives anyways and carry the exact same risks as prostitution.

Do they? really? I'd have thought most would be looking for a partner/boyfriend by their mid-twenties (which is another downside a woman takes for the high pay - most men wouldn't date a prostitute - "scrub mentality" you see  )

And Gonorrhea for one is fast becoming difficult to treat. Just google "antibiotic resistant gonorrhea".

Most women wouldn't want to be a prossie due to possible exploitation/entrapment by criminal PIMPS immune to prosecution/investigation due to inherent Police/Political and Mafia Corruption who do not allow truly free enterprise- unless they (dirty Police/Politicans/Businesses/Mafia) have their grubby fingers in the pie.

Eh??? So even though it is relatively easy to set up a profile on Adultwork independently, and it is legal to be a prostitute in the UK (so the police couldn't get involved even if they wanted to), in your educated opinion most women in the UK do not want to be a prostitute because of "entrapment" by criminal pimps/ the mafia etc? Have you been watching too much CSI?  Not simply because most women could not allow numerous random strangers into their body? A minority of ladies can and make a good business out of it, some try but quit quickly, the vast majority cannot. Nothing to do with the "mafia".

The minimum wage is higher than that 

The average Annual wage is around £26,000

Not where I live James I can assure you it's not!


 

[WestCountryLad]

More total nonsense.
There are tens of thousands of women who would work as prossies at £100 an hour, if not British then European ladies would be lining up. 

£100 ph is an acceptable rate to me & seems fine for a large amount of ho's out there.  The suggested rate on this thread of £50 ph is never gonna happen, would be great if it was but the only ones offering to fuck you at that rate are not gonna be pretty.    

No, it's not a good post, it is simply a WG trying to talk prices up ----- nothing new there. 

I thought it was an intelligent reply 

Can I ask then is £100 ph an acceptable rate for you to pay to have a shag?
Can you see a good looking pro$$ie with a good reputation of delivering the goods at £100 ph ever dropping her hourly rate to £50?

[James999]

Not where I live James I can assure you it's not!

The average wage is the AVERAGE as such there will be lots above it and lots below it, that's why they call it the AVERAGE  Thje clue is in the word 

[smiths]

More total nonsense.
There are tens of thousands of women who would work as prossies at £100 an hour, if not British then European ladies would be lining up. 

A few Brit WGs do but quite right mainly EE WGs and as has been posted recently from £60 an hour and my last punt was at £70 an hour which i rated a 7/10 and as i said before she said it was good money to her.

[James999]

A few Brit WGs do but quite right mainly EE WGs and as has been posted recently from £60 an hour and my last punt was at £70 an hour which i rated a 7/10 and as i said before she said it was good money to her.

So good that after you punted her she was able to retire 

[Mr XL]

The average wage is the AVERAGE as such there will be lots above it and lots below it, that's why they call it the AVERAGE  Thje clue is in the word 

The average in, say London, will be a lot different to the average in, say, Norwich.

Averages mean little. You could quote the average wage worldwide and it would mean little to us in the UK. Likewise the average London wage will mean little to someone in Norwich.

I think I'll add  .......since everyone seems to do this when someone disagrees.

Patronising innit.

[James999]

The Average I used is the National average 

if you earn less, Shame 

if you earn more, good 

But the average is a mix of all 

[Mr XL]

The Average I used is the National average 

if you earn less, Shame 

if you earn more, good 

But the average is a mix of all 

That doesn't answer my point.

  Yawn 

 

[James999]

Perhaps there was no point, the national averag is the national average 

[WestCountryLad]

Ok rather than looking at the average which will be skewed by abnormally high salaries does anyone know what the mode salary of the UK is?

[smiths]

£100 ph is an acceptable rate to me & seems fine for a large amount of ho's out there.  The suggested rate on this thread of £50 ph is never gonna happen, would be great if it was but the only ones offering to fuck you at that rate are not gonna be pretty.    

I thought it was an intelligent reply 

Can I ask then is £100 ph an acceptable rate for you to pay to have a shag?
Can you see a good looking pro$$ie with a good reputation of delivering the goods at £100 ph ever dropping her hourly rate to £50?

I could see a relatively small number of WGs charging £50 an hour, £60 an hour is already on offer by a few but i cant see it being a widespread thing as i think many WGs wouldnt go that low if they are now charging £100 an hour or so. If they are now charging between £60-80 an hour i could see those WGs drop to £50 an hour. As punt quality is not linked to cost and i have just had a 7/10 £70 an hour punt i could also see some WGs offering a good service at £50 an hour.

The other point here is even a punter like JRC is iffy about WGs under a £100 an hour as he has recently posted so i would think many punters think the same, its so low chances are its dodgy or more likely to be dodgy. One of my favourite WGs who i punted with many times charged £80 an hour  and a number of other good WGs £90 an hour so i know there are good ones about at these prices but like all punting you might have to wade through the bad to find these gems.

[foresight]

The Average I used is the National average 

if you earn less, Shame 

if you earn more, good 

But the average is a mix of all 

means " I have read your post but do not have the intellectual capacity to understand the point you are making. Therefore I must be right"

[smiths]

So good that after you punted her she was able to retire 

I really gave her £70,000 to start a new life.

[Mr XL]

Ok rather than looking at the average which will be skewed by abnormally high salaries does anyone know what the mode salary of the UK is?

The 'average' will be skewed by regional variations so is a pointless exercise if spread too widely.......just like house prices................I could talk about a house price in London that would be a complete nonsense to someone in Northumberland. That may make my point more understandable to those who appear to be unable to comprehend it. Incomes are the same.

And just what is a 'mode' salary?

[James999]

I really gave her £70,000 to start a new life.

That was just so I couldn't see her ! Fuck you were quick though, mentioned her at about 2pm, then saw her and she'd gone by that evening 

[Jimmyredcab]

I thought it was an intelligent reply 

Can I ask then is £100 ph an acceptable rate for you to pay to have a shag?
Can you see a good looking pro$$ie with a good reputation of delivering the goods at £100 ph ever dropping her hourly rate to £50?

Yes, absolutely, £100 is totally acceptable ----- in fact I have often said that I am wary about girls charging less.

My problem is with girls who think they are worth more than a brain surgeon.   

[WestCountryLad]

And just what is a 'mode' salary.

It's the figure that occurs most when collecting peoples statistics.  I.e if the most recurring figure is £20,000 then that is the mode.  I think this would be the best way to work out the national 'average'.

There are 3 ways to work out an 'average'.  The most common is 'the mean' which is add everything up & divide by how many, there is 'the mode' & there is also 'the median' which is if you listed everyone's salary is sequential order it will be the one in the middle of that list.

[smiths]

That was just so I couldn't see her ! Fuck you were quick though, mentioned her at about 2pm, then saw her and she'd gone by that evening 

It is weird and a bummer as i would of returned, a Kimberley Cunt is in the same flat now i understand so its unlikely it was raided as being a brothel. She lived as well as worked there as she told me and she had her belongings in her room which made that believeable. I will see if her profile returns.

[James999]

Kimberley Cunt

Sounds Classy 

[smiths]

Sounds Classy 

She is a never.

[Sailormack]

Totally predictable, prostitutes will always stick together.   

Agreed. Another reason why I consider their whitterings "background noise" on this forum. 

[Sailormack]

£100 ph is an acceptable rate to me & seems fine for a large amount of ho's out there.  The suggested rate on this thread of £50 ph is never gonna happen, would be great if it was but the only ones offering to fuck you at that rate are not gonna be pretty.    

I thought it was an intelligent reply 

Can I ask then is £100 ph an acceptable rate for you to pay to have a shag?
Can you see a good looking pro$$ie with a good reputation of delivering the goods at £100 ph ever dropping her hourly rate to £50?

When I read this I realise that there are so many people out there who don't comprehend the real state of our economy and how much worse things are going to get.

Countries like Greece and Italy are effectively bankrupt and I don't think that the UK is that far behind.

We are living in unprecedented times and the suggestion of £50 WG is immediately rejected.

I'm stunned

[Jimmyredcab]

When I read this I realise that there are so many people out there who don't comprehend the real state of our economy and how much worse things are going to get.

Countries like Greece and Italy are effectively bankrupt and I don't think that the UK is that far behind.

We are living in unprecedented times and the suggestion of £50 WG is immediately rejected.

I'm stunned

A very good post but I doubt we will see £50 an hour being the norm any time soon ---- but who knows what the future holds.   

[Sailormack]

A very good post but I doubt we will see £50 an hour being the norm any time soon ---- but who knows what the future holds.   

Simple economics.

As the poorer European countries approach bankruptcy and there are no jobs I think more girls will turn to prostitution. This will result in a further influx of foreign girls to Treasure Island which will force the prices down further.

In these bleak economic times £50 /hr is a big wage. If more competition means lower prices  then the current WGs have two choices... compete on price or quit and do something else. The problem is of course is that there is no "something else".

Whether it will become the norm remains to be seen but to discount it completely is being naive IMO.

As always...time will tell.

[workinallweek]

with harder times ahead for the students we could see an increase in girls working there way through uni 

i for one would be only too happy to help with there education .....

[James999]

with harder times ahead for the students we could see an increase in girls working there way through uni 

i for one would be only too happy to help with there education .....

If they are bright enough to get onto a decent course, they are unlikely to want to be pro$$ies, it tends to be the ones that dropped out of school or the ones doing Btec massage course or some other worthless crap, that work as pro$$ies, ok they talk about degrees etc, but the reality for most is that when they say they are "degree educated" they actually mean they were educated to a degree, i.e. till they got expelled from school 

[Jimmyredcab]

with harder times ahead for the students we could see an increase in girls working there way through uni 

i for one would be only too happy to help with there education .....

Yes, I would be more than happy to assist these ladies to get their media studies degree.   

[James999]

It is weird and a bummer as i would of returned, a Kimberley Cunt is in the same flat now i understand so its unlikely it was raided as being a brothel. She lived as well as worked there as she told me and she had her belongings in her room which made that believeable. I will see if her profile returns.

She's back External Link/Members Only

[smiths]

She's back External Link/Members Only

Indeed, a slight name change with a new profile according to the date i note. She had no feedback so doing this made no odds to her but i dont see the point myself and she has made it harder to locate her as she no longer comes up on a proximity search.

[Mooney]

I often talked on Pnet about retiring from punting, however ironically I have now virtually retired without intending to.
I am currently in the worst financial situation of my life - nothing to do with the recession or even punting, just my own stupidity over the past couple of years. This together with another personal problem means I don't know where my next punt is coming from. It also doesn't help that there still appears to be very little locally of interest to me.

After a great punt I frequently talked about it being my last one. Over the past couple of years these were ones with Nicoletta, but I remember talking to Amy (who I have seen more than any other wg) about it long before I knew Nicoletta. I had had a two girl punt with Amy and Adrianna (a Russian girl I also saw regularly at the time) at Adrianna's flat. Amy left with me to walk back to her place which was nearby. As we were walking down the street I told her that might well be last punt as I was thinking of giving up. She replied she doubted I would. This was maybe five years ago and she was right.

However thus far this year I have had just seven punts. One at Arabesque Bury in February, three in London at Easter and another three in London at the beginning of June. It will probably be just about the first year since I started punting that I won't have had a punt in a Sheffield parlour. Just checked and I  did have one in December, so it is still nowhere near a year yet. In my early days of punting I only had five or six punts a year, but these were spread out over the year and not squashed together on a London visit as I have to have them now. However for most of my punting career I have had probably 20 - 30 punts a year and sometimes many more.

I did want to be in control of when I stopped punting, but instead because of financial and another problem it has been somewhat taken out of my hands, and instead of going out consciously with a great punt or two it has just sort of fizzled out.     Which I guess is the way of most things in reality.

This is doubly ironic in view of the success of UKP and our upcoming first anniversary. Being a non punter I actually feel a bit of a fraud at present. With the exceptions of my reviews of my London punts this year most of my comments about punting have been in the past - see my extensive post about Sheffield punts for example. This is rather worrying.
Even more worrying is that someone at work told me recently that I was living on past memories rather than the present or the future. (I think it was when I turned the wedding invite down.) This is also basically true, although of course they weren't referring to punting. 

Hopefully I might manage to scrape together the means and the opportunity to have a couple of punts to celebrate our anniversary in the next couple of weeks. However in the past money hasn't been that much of a problem for me, so although I wasn't happy I could put up with the bad punts. As this is no longer the case I simply cannot afford to experience a bad un now . 

Hi Nik
You have punted more than I this year , I cant seem to get the time or sometimes the inclination, more to do with the stagnate offerings in Lincs

[Steve2]

Indeed, a slight name change with a new profile according to the date i note. She had no feedback so doing this made no odds to her but i dont see the point myself and she has made it harder to locate her as she no longer comes up on a proximity search.

Can't figure out her motive. Same pics and same rates and same flat I assume. Probably did the profile herself and fucked up some of the essential details. She was already booked when I wanted to see her today so I think she will be around for a while. May try Thursday as I am on my hols for 2 days at Eureka

[bobdavid]

She's back External Link/Members Only

This is a bit bizarre ... but ... I was just searching for the URL of a girl I saw late last year, "Lola Amuse", to see whether she might be on here ... and this post came up. I can't figure out the context of the link though - is this about Lola and, if so, did something happen..? I was hoping to see her again after this appointment - but I guess she left the UK or something :-( .. I wasn't sure if this post related to Lola as I'm not sure whether AdultWork reuses IDs from deleted accounts..? (I'd assume they wouldn't, though...)

[smiths]

This is a bit bizarre ... but ... I was just searching for the URL of a girl I saw late last year, "Lola Amuse", to see whether she might be on here ... and this post came up. I can't figure out the context of the link though - is this about Lola and, if so, did something happen..? I was hoping to see her again after this appointment - but I guess she left the UK or something :-( .. I wasn't sure if this post related to Lola as I'm not sure whether AdultWork reuses IDs from deleted accounts..? (I'd assume they wouldn't, though...)

Whereabouts exactly did you punt with Lola late last year?

[Horizontal pleasures]

The reasons I punt less is that at my age it now takes me longer to recover and gain energy for the next one, But I am still at it every few days or once week more likely but ...

Mrs H P has been redundant from her employment so she works from home a lot so I cannot go out and roam as much as I want to. I work from home also and go out to work once a week which is usually when I punt. Twice a week is rare now.

My other tactic is that I rarely pay even £100 for a session, mainly £70 or £80 so my cash goes further and I still have unlimited fun with great ladies.

[bobdavid]

Whereabouts exactly did you punt with Lola late last year?

I saw Lola when I was in East London for a conference... I can't remember the exact date but either 15th or 16th November 2011. The last contact that I had with Lola was an email back from her on 21st November where I'd asked if she'd be around in Feb 2012 - she'd replied with something like "I should be back by then" ... I have her email in my Inbox - but of course I can't read it any more because her account on AW is now closed ...

More information that I can give is that I know she was staying in an Ibis hotel ... I know that because I was staying in a different Ibis (hers was in East London as well I believe - but mine was right next to the Excel)... she seemed to know London really well and was laughing at how much of a London newb I was (as she casually booked her taxi to return home using her laptop).

I'd be very interested to know what happened with Lola ... she was a really nice girl... when she left I still had another hour left with the other girl (it was a threesome and I'd arranged it so that I had an hour with Lola before and an hour with the other girl after) - I felt awful seeing her go, though, and Lola seemed genuinely annoyed that the other girl was staying ... as was I at the time as the other girl seemed to be drunk or stoned..! (and not all that nice to be honest..) ... but - I'm probably fooling myself there as Lola is undoubtedly way out of my league...

[smiths]

I saw Lola when I was in East London for a conference... I can't remember the exact date but either 15th or 16th November 2011. The last contact that I had with Lola was an email back from her on 21st November where I'd asked if she'd be around in Feb 2012 - she'd replied with something like "I should be back by then" ... I have her email in my Inbox - but of course I can't read it any more because her account on AW is now closed ...

More information that I can give is that I know she was staying in an Ibis hotel ... I know that because I was staying in a different Ibis (hers was in East London as well I believe - but mine was right next to the Excel)... she seemed to know London really well and was laughing at how much of a London newb I was (as she casually booked her taxi to return home using her laptop).

I'd be very interested to know what happened with Lola ... she was a really nice girl... when she left I still had another hour left with the other girl (it was a threesome and I'd arranged it so that I had an hour with Lola before and an hour with the other girl after) - I felt awful seeing her go, though, and Lola seemed genuinely annoyed that the other girl was staying ... as was I at the time as the other girl seemed to be drunk or stoned..! (and not all that nice to be honest..) ... but - I'm probably fooling myself there as Lola is undoubtedly way out of my league...

Thanks, yes she certainly got about, i saw her in Finchley then she was in Chelsea for a while or her profile said so anyway. At £70 an hour while in Finchley a very good VFM WG in my view.

[Steve2]

She certainly was

[mofukker]

what about claiming compensation from PPI? i heard you can get big money from that , im gonna do it soon

[workinallweek]

what about claiming compensation from PPI? i heard you can get big money from that , im gonna do it soon

its easy if you know how ...