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Author Topic: Timekeeping. Bookings where Escorts are late AND finish early. How common?  (Read 7945 times)

Offline RedAlertTourist

I was reminiscing about punts I've had this year.

Needless to say I've had a bad overall experience. No this isn't "victim talk" is more like- if I want customer satisfaction, Value for Money, refunds its best to stick to Marks and Spencer*.
*which is another way of saying Escorts are scammers- they are borderline Criminals so therefore don't expect quality control or untainted goods- and I have better things to spend £100 on.

Anyways one punt that stuck in my mind was an Escort who ripped me off £150-- because it was clear fron her turning up 10 Minutes late, and finishing 20 Minutes early- she was merely a £100 blow and go Escort incapable of doing more than 30 minutes in an hour session- despite charging me £250 for 2 hours.

Her name was Francesca 22 but now shes goes by the name of X Clara X on Adultwork.com. Details of her SCAM can be found in this thread.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=1617.0

But here is her new profile which is her FOURTH profile in less than 6 Months.

Clara
https://www.adultwork.com/1246881


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Online Jimmyredcab

On reflection, do you agree that is very foolish to book an unknown girl for two hours. ????
I would recommend a first booking to be 30 minutes to one hour ---- certainly not 2 hours.  :(

Offline RedAlertTourist

On reflection, do you agree that is very foolish to book an unknown girl for two hours. ????
I would recommend a first booking to be 30 minutes to one hour ---- certainly not 2 hours.  :(

On reflection I might have skipped on Escorts completely- if I knew I would be dicked around this much.

TBH- there is next to nothing a Punter can really do to avoid being fucked over by an Escort. I disagree that 30 minute bookings are really the way forward and can be just as much a waste of Money than a Hour booking.
Not to mention you won't know what an Escort is like in an hour booking in those 30 minutes*

*I've heard Punters book an Escort for 30 minutes to ask if she does A Levels based on his size. She''ll agree and take a 60 minute booking to "work it in"- but then refuse at a later date. It happens.

If anything the posts here at UKPUNTING don't change the nature of Escorts. Us punters have fooled ourselves into thinking we have any control- we don't.

Its like the fable story of the "Frog and the Scorpian" The punter is the Frog andf the Escort the Scorpian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_frog_and_the_scorpion
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 07:33:56 PM by RedAlertTourist »

Offline Kitty

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If anything the posts here at UKPUNTING don't change the nature of Escorts. Us punters have fooled ourselves into thinking we have any control- we don't.

Honest question here:
Do the members here truly believe that they can have any impact upon escorting in the UK?

Not to criticise but a very large amount of escorts haven't even heard of the auto-censored forum, let alone this one. And I don't think that many of the escorts who do peruse this board take much of what is said into account :/

Online James999

large amount of escorts haven't even heard of the auto-censored forum,

A large amount can't read either, and very few are likely to own & be able to operate a computer  :scare:


Online NIK

One of my worst experiences for timekeeping was with an EE girl from an agency. Can't remember the name of the agency but it was a few years ago as I very rarely do outcalls to my hotel amymore - crap timekeeping being one of the reasons I don't.
Anyway I was staying at the hotel on Bayswater Road that they've been knocking about for the past few years (between Queensway and Lancaster Gate, can't remember the name). There is another virtually next door.
She hadn't arrived after 20 minutes at which point I phoned the agency. Rather than being apologetic the first thing the bloody woman said was 'why have you taken so long to phone?' Doubtless if I'd have phoned after 10 minutes she would have said something like 'give her chance!'
She then told me she was on her way. Another 20 minutes, another phone call and she was still on her way. Nowdays that would be booking cancelled but I was more naive then.
The girl eventually arrived about an hour and fifteeen to an hour and a half late, the excuse being that she had gone to the hotel next door. I think I could have travelled right across London and back in that time!
I recall the girl, who had looked stunning in her pics wasn't nearly as attractive as they had made her appear, and as you might expect the service was crap!

I also recall another girl being 20 minutes late to this same hotel. She was the one I've written about various times before on Prossynet as I saw her through the window strolling casually down the street eating a bloody bag of crisps as though she was 20 minutes early!  :mad:
Must have been something about that hotel!
« Last Edit: July 22, 2011, 07:22:38 PM by NIK »

Offline Kitty

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A large amount can't read either, and very few are likely to own & be able to operate a computer  :scare:

Awww, bless you sweetheart. I'm not rising to the bait today, sorry ):

Offline RedAlertTourist

The girl eventually arrived about an hour and fifteeen to an hour and a half late, the excuse being that she had gone to the hotel next door.

Let me give you a little lesson into why people are "late".

Lateness is a actually a form of self sabotage,  people do before an event because they don't want to commit to it or attend.

Lateness is something people do sub-conciously and on purpose before an event because simply THEY CHOOSE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT!

So therefore all this talk of Escorts that love their job- is bollocks. They hate their jobs- thats why their appearence is sloppy, their time keeping is sloppy and they are in a right state- in terms of dragging their heels taking bookings, being "late" giving out the address details and taking drinks or drugs or being hungover. Its self sabotage!


I used to be late all the time for my former Call Centre Job, Cold Calling- Accidental Death Insurance to clients by Telephone.
Despite being good Money, I was always late- always hung over (drinking copius amounts of Beer the Night Before), always stuck in traffic and my "Alarm never went off" (because I never set it right).
   And eventually I started giving bad, half assed Customer Service and Sales Pitches- which lead to complaints by Customers and being called into my jobsworth "Managers" office.

Little did I know I was doing all the above on purpose; simply because I hated my job and knew the product I was selling WAS crap and was a scam.*

*and thats the exact same pricniple of an Escorts work ethic too.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 08:08:22 PM by RedAlertTourist »

Offline Matium


Needless to say I've had a bad overall experience.


You haven't had any good experiences at all?

If that's the case then it'll be best if you only stick to 30 minute punts from now on then the maximum you'll lose is about £80.

Offline Lurtz

In my personal experience very few WGs have cut short my appointment. One or two try, but it is futile because when they try to rush things it serves only to extend the booking because I go off the boil and have to let the gas heat me up again. If an appointment is cut short, it is usually of my choosing - not because I don't like her, but because I am so horny I just forego some foreplay and hasten an orgasm. Once I squirt, I can't see the point of hanging around.

Whenever I've treated myself to a longer booking (1 hour or more) I've ended up wasting time pleasuring her or chatting about trivial crap. I prefer a short, sharp 30 minutes of condensed fun.

Offline RedAlertTourist

You haven't had any good experiences at all?

Nope.

I thought punting might be right for me when I met Red Haired Cutie July 2010 (check my field report on Adultwork under her feedback). https://www.adultwork.com/384265

But a few things that could taint that experience.
a) it was a long time ago. Who knows maybe her standards have slipped.
b) it was a very "service" based experience- no passion or spark and she admitted she never gets naturally wet with clients (hence lube)
c) Prices up from £120 per hour (£240 2 hours) to £160 and £280. So shes slapped a premium on herself thats priced herself out of the market.

Other than that- 5 other Escorts have all cut short bookings, added hidden extras, with-held services without a valid reason or were "late" giving me their address/booking details to land themselves on the "negative reviews/bad provider" section.

If that's the case then it'll be best if you only stick to 30 minute punts from now on then the maximum you'll lose is about £80.

I already said above- no.

Some Escorts are £80-£90 per 30 minutes- BUT an hour is £100. Plus with additional expenses such as expensive Train Travel (£45) 30 minutes isn't a viable option.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 08:31:49 PM by RedAlertTourist »


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Offline smiths

Honest question here:
Do the members here truly believe that they can have any impact upon escorting in the UK?

Not to criticise but a very large amount of escorts haven't even heard of the auto-censored forum, let alone this one. And I don't think that many of the escorts who do peruse this board take much of what is said into account :/

An impact on certain parts like Adultwork for example, its no coincidence that some fake profiles that Jacob in particular pro-actively outs get deleted. It wont stop the scum from trying to con punters but at least those of us on here or who read here know these things occur.

I have literally spoken to hundreds of punters on the party circuit over the years and a small percentage 10-15% max know about any punting forums or that there are independent punters reviews on WGs, i.e. not just Agency reviews. Most WGs i have punted with have also never heard of punting sites either, so in reality most who punt do so in total ignorance in my view.

Those WGs who scam/rip-off or otherwise offer bad service should be slammed and condemned without mercy in my opinion, sites like this enable those of us aware of such sites to do this and thus provide a great service to punters which i hope will spread to more punters in the future.

My 28 years of punting tells me its ALL about the WGs attitude, what you pay her does not change her attitude which is a reason paying more in punting doesnt equal better, a truth very many punters cant grasp, to them it MUST mean better or why pay £300 an hour rather than £100 an hour. In the past i have paid £300 and £350 an hour so know there isnt necessarily ANY difference over paying £100 an hour.

So, i treat each WG as what they are, a unique individual and go into a punt with a newbie to me with suspicion but not blaming her for the bad service i have received from others. Most WGs i have punted with have been average, good or better so there are WGs out there who dont look to scam me etc but i expect to receive what i have agreed on the phone beforehand. Praise the good and hammer the bad is what i believe in. ;)

Offline Kitty

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Praise the good and hammer the bad is what i believe in. ;)

But don't us good girls deserve a good hammering from time to time too?

On a more serious note though: Getting profiles deleted on adultwork alas doesn't change the actualy behaviour of the WGs in question. It just cocks their operation up until they get a new profile. Soooo no actual effect upon WG behaviour at all.

Offline Lurtz



Do the members here truly believe that they can have any impact upon escorting in the UK?

Not to criticise but a very large amount of escorts haven't even heard of the auto-censored forum, let alone this one. And I don't think that many of the escorts who do peruse this board take much of what is said into account :/



Kitty, my mode of punting was transformed overnight when I discovered PN (boo! Hiss!) Field Reports. I went from visiting random girls from the local paper to booking appointments with highly-rated top totty. Discovering independent feedback from fellow punters was like drilling into a seam of 24 carat gold. If other punters don't access the same information sources as me, then I feel sorry for them.

Offline smiths

But don't us good girls deserve a good hammering from time to time too?

On a more serious note though: Getting profiles deleted on adultwork alas doesn't change the actualy behaviour of the WGs in question. It just cocks their operation up until they get a new profile. Soooo no actual effect upon WG behaviour at all.

I do what i can manage on the hammering front, not a lot, but such is life. ;)

Nothing will change dishonest peoples behaviour, even the police and prison so you can only do what you can do which is a lot better than doing sweet fanny adams in my opinion.

The problem is there is no one to complain to as its not a regulated industry of course, punting forums fill that void a bit so at least some of us find out about the bad and the good. Its a double edged sword in that in my view if punting was regulated it would mean monitoring which would put the cost to the consumer/punter up as it always does and its already an expensive pastime to many. ;)

Offline Tibbs

Praise the good and hammer the bad is what i believe in. ;)

Definitely!

I also find that looking at a profile thinking why should I book this girl rather than why shouldn't I book her also puts you in the right frame of mind for picking.

Having said that I'm a big fan of reverse bookings. If the WG can be bothered to write a few lines specifically to me, then it's a decent indicator for the punt to follow. I find the Northern cities are much better than London for RBs, probably because they seem to have a much higher proportion of British WGs up there.

But back to the OP, for a 2 hour booking I would expect to spend at least 1 hour 20 minutes  doing stuff whether it be kissing, O, RO or sex. The rest of the time is getting her undressed, chatting, drinking & sorting out the paperwork. I've been shortchanges a cvouple of times, by a few minutes, but the over-runs have more than evened it out. As I punt more and more I'm certainly getting better at controlling a punt, making sure I get what I want out of the booking.

Honest question here:
Do the members here truly believe that they can have any impact upon escorting in the UK?

Honest answer.....

No  :cry:

Girls will charge what they want & work how they want.  On here we can bitch & moan  :scare: or even praise  :) the girls we've seen, but IMO no matter what we punters do it will not have an impact.

Back to the OP, I've not really had any issues with timekeeping.  Of course I've had ladies turn up late on outcalls but I've always been kept informed on their ETA & think the latest she turned up was around half hour late.  Even when they've been late I've always got my full booking time  :yahoo:  This may be because I've only seen indies & never gone through an agency.

But don't us good girls deserve a good hammering from time to time too?

 :D Yep  :yahoo:

On a more serious note though: Getting profiles deleted on adultwork alas doesn't change the actualy behaviour of the WGs in question. It just cocks their operation up until they get a new profile. Soooo no actual effect upon WG behaviour at all.

The only way us punters could affect a working girls behaviour would be to not book her.  If her rates were high for the area she was working & no punters booked her then she would have to drop her rates.  This would only work if she didn't get any clients, but as Smiths has said, the vast majority of punters are not aware of punter forums & also some have the view that paying more equals better service.  Therefore she will always get clients & very little to no impact will be made.


Offline smiths

Definitely!

I also find that looking at a profile thinking why should I book this girl rather than why shouldn't I book her also puts you in the right frame of mind for picking.

Having said that I'm a big fan of reverse bookings. If the WG can be bothered to write a few lines specifically to me, then it's a decent indicator for the punt to follow. I find the Northern cities are much better than London for RBs, probably because they seem to have a much higher proportion of British WGs up there.

But back to the OP, for a 2 hour booking I would expect to spend at least 1 hour 20 minutes  doing stuff whether it be kissing, O, RO or sex. The rest of the time is getting her undressed, chatting, drinking & sorting out the paperwork. I've been shortchanges a cvouple of times, by a few minutes, but the over-runs have more than evened it out. As I punt more and more I'm certainly getting better at controlling a punt, making sure I get what I want out of the booking.

You make a very good point. In my experience it certainly helps to think positive or i am looking for faults rather than enjoying the punt and i really want to enjoy it and have fun. Thats the point of punting to me.

It really is important to not let the bad punts shape your view for the future, yes be suspicious and aware of the risks but dont let the bad spoil your punting. ;)

Offline Tibbs

In my experience it certainly helps to think positive

When I'm picking ladies I do exactly the opposite. I used to do some fairly extreme sports, and it was standard doctrine in all of them - start negative - when you turn up at a site, start with the assumption that you aren't going to jump, and then make sure all the factors are there that let you do it.

I do the same with punting - I assume I'm not going to punt, and only book someone if she fulfills all my criteria that day.

Of course when I actually get to the punt, I'm a rolling ball of positivity!  :lol:

Offline RedAlertTourist

But back to the OP, for a 2 hour booking I would expect to spend at least 1 hour 20 minutes  doing stuff whether it be kissing, O, RO or sex. The rest of the time is getting her undressed, chatting, drinking & sorting out the paperwork.

IMO that should all be included in a 1 hour booking.

When you go to a Health Spa/Swimming Pool/Cinema/Hair Cutters- paying Money at the Kiosk, being seated and given a complementary Drink, a formal introduction and looking at the menu/service list is NOT taken into account.

The hour should start from the activity itself (in the case of Escorts "on the bed").

£100 is a lot of Money. So I don't see why I should pay an additional £60-£100 for hospitality and pleasentries that benefit both the Escort AND Client.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 09:55:37 PM by RedAlertTourist »

Offline kirp

for a booking when does the clock actually start?


Offline ladyofthemansion

Honest question here:
Do the members here truly believe that they can have any impact upon escorting in the UK?

Not to criticise but a very large amount of escorts haven't even heard of the auto-censored forum, let alone this one. And I don't think that many of the escorts who do peruse this board take much of what is said into account :/

If UKP has stopped even just one punter being ripped off then it has achieved a lot.

Offline ladyofthemansion

I went to see a guy who placed a timer on his pillow lol.....and insist on spending almost an hour chatting pre service. He was very diplomatic about the way he did it by saying he wanted to make sure I didn't go over the time lol. Maybe you guys should get one...only 99p.

Offline Kitty

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If UKP has stopped even just one punter being ripped off then it has achieved a lot.

I know that. It was more a question of "Will this forum ever affect a WGs behaviour", which was the topic being discussed before. Most WGs, if they ever read this forum, wouldn't give a flying fuck what members on here talk about as such a tiny percentage of clients actually know about forums like this.

They are indeed a great way for word to spread about good/bad girls and to warn others about the twats who mess it up for the rest of us. It doesn't really influence girls behaviour in any way though, which is the point I was trying to make.

Offline ladyofthemansion

I know that. It was more a question of "Will this forum ever affect a WGs behaviour", which was the topic being discussed before. Most WGs, if they ever read this forum, wouldn't give a flying fuck what members on here talk about as such a tiny percentage of clients actually know about forums like this.

They are indeed a great way for word to spread about good/bad girls and to warn others about the twats who mess it up for the rest of us. It doesn't really influence girls behaviour in any way though, which is the point I was trying to make.

Fair enough.


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