AVA-SUMMERS - Nottingham - Outing threat and harassment

[Maverick1138]

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Was contemplating a negative, but seems like wires got crossed and as Ava is no longer working in this area full time it could be that she is finding difficulty in balancing this work with other commitments.

To cut a long story short, a very lengthy booking (overnight) was arranged so that Ava could keep me company on a business trip. For this and due to travel being involved, Ava requested a small deposit. I was reassured via AW messaging that she would take time off work (this will allow her to attend to my booking request and everything would go smoothly).

This all changed. The timings got restrictive, shorter, and that she would need to rush back to work the next day and that she would not get paid if she took a holiday. I copied and pasted the message where she confirmed she was happy to take leave from work. At this point I realised she may be trying to have her cake and eat it - get a punt in and dont lose out on her day job, at the cost of compromising my time with her.
I politely said in that case dont worry, we could do this some other time, and I reiterated this on 2-3 occasions through messages (not to book leave). At the risk of losing her booking, she ignored those messages, went ahead and now decided to take time off work. However at this point, you start to think about what kind of pressure she is in to rush back and will I actually have a decent booking considering the amount I am paying.

Needless to say, this didnt go down well with her, even though I immediately told her not to take time off work and I dont feel comfortable compromising our time and my money on a rush job. She blocked me and kept the deposit too stating that I cancelled on her.

The other point to note is that all of this was happening 10 days in advance of the booking date (not on the day, or day before or even in the same week), she had nothing to lose, she could remove her leave request and she wont lose anything. For me, I lost my deposit and I have to start from scratch to find a provider to replace her.

Very unprofessional and quite disappointing. You live and learn.

[ashparmar2512]

Surely a neg not a neutral?

[Maverick1138]

Surely a neg not a neutral?

I know - I was thinking this....I will leave that to others to decide.

[Fence Post]

Red mist rising on this one. She went back on the original agreement for the meet. Either she can do longer bookings overnight or she can't, no room for maybe I can or maybe I can't later. If her circumstances change, she should return the deposit, no questions asked.
I did see her a couple of years pre covid , nice enough girl but was struck by a lack-luster performance for the price. I fear she's past her sell by date, with or without the enhancements.

[NottsNylonLuvr]

100% Negative and clearly a theif.

[KerachiDope]

Most definitely a Negative experience.

[NervousJ]

she's always in my searches, but can never tell if she's escorting or just camming..
i saw her a year or so back. as said nice lass, good curvy bod but wasn't worth the premium imo...

i'd return but not in todays pricing climate... her boobs are spectacular...

poor show but returning the deposit...

[Mansfieldman]

She is the one girl I have always wanted to punt with, but then Covid happened. Now I think she only cams …
Sorry to hear about your bad experience… definitely a neg!!

[gbyld87]

She is the one girl I have always wanted to punt with, but then Covid happened. Now I think she only (s)cams …
Sorry to hear about your bad experience… definitely a neg!!

Ftfy 

[Maverick1138]

She recently rang me threatening to come to my house and speak to my wife. This woman is nuts

[Charliehutton]

Ftfy 

Er...what does Ftfy mean?

[GingerNuts]

Er...what does Ftfy mean?

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[Newtothisstuff]

She recently rang me threatening to come to my house and speak to my wife. This woman is nuts

She threatened to go to your house and talk to your wife?!
That's got to make this a straight Negative.

Correct me if I'm wrong but as I read it, you agreed the time, duration and details with her. Then after she'd agreed and you had paid her the deposit she asked for, she began making changes to the agreed booking.
If that's the case, she was bang out of order long before she threatened to turn up to your house and talk to your wife.

I'd be wanting to change the title of the thread to Ava-Summers : Warning. Threatened to out me to my wife!

[Maverick1138]

She can do what she wants we don’t even live in Nottingham as my work is down South
It’s quite sad that it comes to this. Just move on she’s only creating problems for her own personal life

[daviemac]

She can do what she wants we don’t even live in Nottingham as my work is down South
It’s quite sad that it comes to this. Just move on she’s only creating problems for her own personal life

Reviews don't get removed and that is made very clear on the post new review page.

The only person who decides the rating of any review is the person posting the review, the person that experienced the punt, other members can not decide on their behalf.

The best I can suggest is change the sim in your phone and if you want it done, ask for this to be changed to a negative with the title altered to reflect the threat of outing.

[Maverick1138]

Thanks.
Thankfully she made the grave error of leaving a voicemail message which I have now extracted as audio and saved. Will upload here too so all evidence trail is visible in case she tries anything.
Until she stops I will keep updating this post with what she’s threatening me with and can provide any camera photos/videos audios as attachments for benefit of others and in case it needs reporting as a criminal offence

[daviemac]

Thanks.
Thankfully she made the grave error of leaving a voicemail message which I have now extracted as audio and saved. Will upload here too so all evidence trail is visible in case she tries anything.
Until she stops I will keep updating this post with what she’s threatening me with and can provide any camera photos/videos audios as attachments for benefit of others and in case it needs reporting as a criminal offence

Report it to the police but don't post anything on here, it can jeopardise any case.  Example here.

Just a update. Can't say to much.  Police now informed statement taken   but her profile is back live again

[Maverick1138]

Thanks for the advice.
As I say it’s good we live in Bucks but for the purposes of tracking a police enquiry will be opened so I can keep them updated to protect others

[gbyld87]

What's her apparent motivation? Is she trying to blackmail you, or is it just out of spite?

[Maverick1138]

I was thinking this too. She’s got a few negatives but she’s picking on me for some reason. All that has happened is:

1. Above booking arrangements didn’t suite me so we didn’t go through with it
2. I told her I won’t be able to find someone else now but luckily I did
3. She seen the feedback of the other girl and had a rant with me
4. Then she threatened me on the phone
5. Now she’s seen this page and left a voicemail

So make what you want from that. It should have not even gone further than point 2.
Such a straight forward booking that got cancelled. So move on!

[Charliehutton]

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Much obliged 

[Maverick1138]

What's her apparent motivation? Is she trying to blackmail you, or is it just out of spite?

Purely out of spite

[Maverick1138]

An update:
1. Initially called Thames met police since I live in Bucks area, they told me to open an enquiry with Nottingham and they will link the enquiry at their end on the same system.
2. I discussed the entire case and provided all details (I am not allowed to discuss that piece but its quite overwhelming the amount of info they have on identifying her thanks to the bank details etc). Voicemail recording also sent, I said it was from a withheld number but they say thats fine they have their "ways"
2. My focus was on the harassment side, but they quite rightly also discussed the deposit payment as this could be part of a routine scam and suggested I use the case enquiry number to speak with my bank to return the transfer.
3. They also have my old address in Nottingham, its part of Neighbourhood Watch scheme, I gave the enquiry case number to an old neighbour who I am in touch with. He said a young professional family now live there.
4. Spoke to my wife also, just to be on the safe side although there is absolutely no way she can contact her, but just wanted to cover all bases. All good there too.

Job done. Its such a shame it has to come to this, very bizarre turn of events. She will be absolutely bonkers to try and do anything (dont want to say too much here)....but if she becomes part of a criminal case, harassment, scam etc. then social services will be alerted too....it can be really devastating. Hope for her sake it doesnt.

[RedKettle]

An update:
1. Initially called Thames met police since I live in Bucks area, they told me to open an enquiry with Nottingham and they will link the enquiry at their end on the same system.
2. I discussed the entire case and provided all details (I am not allowed to discuss that piece but its quite overwhelming the amount of info they have on identifying her thanks to the bank details etc). Voicemail recording also sent, I said it was from a withheld number but they say thats fine they have their "ways"
2. My focus was on the harassment side, but they quite rightly also discussed the deposit payment as this could be part of a routine scam and suggested I use the case enquiry number to speak with my bank to return the transfer.
3. They also have my old address in Nottingham, its part of Neighbourhood Watch scheme, I gave the enquiry case number to an old neighbour who I am in touch with. He said a young professional family now live there.
4. Spoke to my wife also, just to be on the safe side although there is absolutely no way she can contact her, but just wanted to cover all bases. All good there too.

Job done. Its such a shame it has to come to this, very bizarre turn of events. She will be absolutely bonkers to try and do anything (dont want to say too much here)....but if she becomes part of a criminal case, harassment, scam etc. then social services will be alerted too....it can be really devastating. Hope for her sake it doesnt.

Well done.

Do you want the review changed to a negative?

[Maverick1138]

Yes now it definitely warrants it and update the subject line to add Outing threat and harassment

[RedKettle]

Yes now it definitely warrants it and update the subject line to add Outing threat and harassment

done 

[Maverick1138]

Thank you mate

[ZeroCount]

Huge respect for going to the effort of making sure she doesn't get away with this and she can't do the same to others. That can't have been easy.

[Maverick1138]

I don’t take harassment lightly - nobody gets away with that.

I had every right to put in a review albeit leniently marked as neutral.

I had absolutely no intention to do anything else. I was ready to move on and let it be.

She pushed me to open a police enquiry and turn this review into a negative, there was no need for it really and could have been easily avoided.

[daviemac]

I don’t take harassment lightly - nobody gets away with that.

I had every right to put in a review albeit leniently marked as neutral.

I had absolutely no intention to do anything else. I was ready to move on and let it be.

She pushed me to open a police enquiry and turn this review into a negative, there was no need for it really and could have been easily avoided.

Pleased you reported it mate, the more people that do report there things the better.

[Stongwee53]

What a nightmare. I had to cancel a confirmed booking recently as timing was too tight and i would of been clock watching the whole time. The sp completely understood and said she hopes we can rearrange soon. Stuff like this is just not needed at all

[HailWood]

Respect Adam. I admire the way you have handled this. You must have a very understanding OH.

[geostorm1]

I would be worried about doing a bank transfer deposit because your name is sometimes (or always?) visible to the receiving party.

[Sleepyhallow1]

Looks as though she’s taken her profile down.

Very much over rate IMO in any case , strange behaviour to be threatening people though.

Hopefully the police will address it appropriately

[Maverick1138]

What a nightmare. I had to cancel a confirmed booking recently as timing was too tight and i would of been clock watching the whole time. The sp completely understood and said she hopes we can rearrange soon. Stuff like this is just not needed at all

People cancel all the time and for a variety of reasons. I actually didnt "cancel", I just said that the terms of the arrangement changed from her end and I think this will be a rushed end to the night. I was polite at all times and have saved the chat transcript too. I said I will find someone local to me instead (down South) and not to bother travelling down to see me.
She then switches the blame onto me by claiming that I cancelled because I had another booking, someone local left me positive feedback. I copied and pasted that booking communication, which was to a girl I emailed only 1 night before the actually booking (considering my discussion with Ava was 10 days before). Again I had the evidence. That's when she started to threaten me, maybe out of frustration that I had an answer to every one of her claims and all backed up with evidence.

As long as she keeps quiet and doesnt do anything stupid, she should be ok - if she is wise enough and doesnt want to ruin her life unnecessarily.

[FScottFitzgerald]

Sorry you had to experience this, mate. Awful.

I think Ava will have the book thrown at her. Blackmail is a serious crime. In fact, according to the Sentencing Council — the guideline for the offence carries a maximum 14 years imprisonment.

[Maverick1138]

Sorry you had to experience this, mate. Awful.

I think Ava will have the book thrown at her. Blackmail is a serious crime. In fact, according to the Sentencing Council — the guideline for the offence carries a maximum 14 years imprisonment.

Yes, I am not surprised at all. It is serious you just can't go around threatening to do things like that, even if you dont mean to carry it out or even if you get someone else to do the dirty work for you. It was very flippant and irresponsible of her.

The voicemail message, which I can't share in full, has the wording "watch what I am going to do now" clearly stated.

[Fence Post]

Strikes me she's one of the"Beautiful young things", who've had all the cosmetic work done and believe they're God's gift to men. Because every loose dick in town is fauning over them, they think they can treat all men like shit. Well done for pursueing this Adam. I feel sorry for her daughter, spoilt as she may be, who's now possibly going to end up with a jai-bird mum.

[Nottsguy69]

Well done.

Do you want the review changed to a negative?

Wow she’s nuts

Your wife knows?

[Maverick1138]

Wow she’s nuts

Your wife knows?

She knows enough to not let anyone randomly contact her and tell her stories, she would deal with that appropriately.

Yep its a crazy situation. By all means leave a negative for me or take the deposit (as she did anyway) - but did this justify conducting threats and harassment?

[geostorm1]

She knows enough to not let anyone randomly contact her and tell her stories, she would deal with that appropriately.

Yep its a crazy situation. By all means leave a negative for me or take the deposit (as she did anyway) - but did this justify conducting threats and harassment?

I am curious how you manage that with your wife. Did you tell her a different story (angry ex colleague is being aggressive and making up lies) or does she know you see prossies?

[webpunter]

Nearly fell over when i read that
OHs have a habit of saying one thing & meaning another
& they'll figure no smoke without a fire

I know of a few relationships between hubby & wifey where the wifey knows that hubby punts
OK with this, or they say they are
However when evidence of 'activity' comes to the surface they go off at the deep end

IMO best approach = dont open a can of worms in the 1st place & if even slightly opened deny everything

I am curious how you manage that with your wife. Did you tell her a different story (angry ex colleague is being aggressive and making up lies) or does she know you see prossies?

[JK1]

I've had problems and threats from this lady too. I then found out her real name and that she is from long eaton. I don't think i'm aloud to publish her name in this feed but if anyone needs it feel free to DM me. Very nasty piece of work she is, bit too large for my liking aswell.

[Maverick1138]

I've had problems and threats from this lady too. I then found out her real name and that she is from long eaton. I don't think i'm aloud to publish her name in this feed but if anyone needs it feel free to DM me. Very nasty piece of work she is, bit too large for my liking aswell.

That is interesting what was your experience?
Dont mention names please, I know her real name and details too (shes been in the newspaper few years back as well for another general reason and that is also in the public domain).

[johnny56]

That is interesting what was your experience?
Dont mention names please, I know her real name and details too (shes been in the newspaper few years back as well for another general reason and that is also in the public domain).

Can you share the article in question or share more detail?

Looking to book this one, but want to know what exactly I could be up against potentially. Articles relating to wgs have been shared on here all the time, so you won't be breaking any rules.

[bigjay2021]

a bit facking dangerous , defosteer clear of that one

[mryllab]

Wow. Crazy scenario. Considering her positive reviews far outweigh her negative reviews. Was thinking of adding her to the hit list after reading her latest review. After seeing this one - kinda sucks

[hunkybc]

Can you share the article in question or share more detail?

Looking to book this one, but want to know what exactly I could be up against potentially. Articles relating to wgs have been shared on here all the time, so you won't be breaking any rules.

I have the Article...but it does give her name and from that you get a link to her business too. Am I allowed to post?  Maybe one for a direct message?

[mryllab]

I have the Article...but it does give her name and from that you get a link to her business too. Am I allowed to post?  Maybe one for a direct message?

Could you DM this to me too. Thanks in advance

[oldstreethookup]

Just reading this whole thing has made my jaw drop. What was she thinking this would achieve?