Author Topic: waiting to review - Coincidence or intentional ?  (Read 3893 times)

Offline irwinuk

I’ve lately noticed a LOT or reviews done after a certain amount of time, enough time actually that the punt is either unavailable anymore or moved to another city etc.
Some of them i’m sure are pure coincidental yet some are weirdly off.
For instance, some users are active and comment on other posts/reviews and only post a review after the girl is no longer available.
For the ones that fo this with intent, why would that be? Are they in love with the punt and want to keep her for themselves or ?  :lol:

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Op - i have made a small change to your heading to (hopefully) give it more meaning. Are you suggesting this is a London only thing or a national thing? If the latter, we can move it to the main national board!

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My last Tofft I reviewed quickly, and it caused a lot of traffic, some use privacy reasons to delay reviews, some want to keep a gem quiet until the itch is scratched.

Takes all sorts, we are all different, do not think there is a definitive answer  :hi:
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Offline Foxtail17

I’ve lately noticed a LOT or reviews done after a certain amount of time, enough time actually that the punt is either unavailable anymore or moved to another city etc.
Some of them i’m sure are pure coincidental yet some are weirdly off.
For instance, some users are active and comment on other posts/reviews and only post a review after the girl is no longer available.
For the ones that fo this with intent, why would that be? Are they in love with the punt and want to keep her for themselves or ?  :lol:

Personally I leave my positive reviews a certain length of time to try protect my identity. How long depends on how busy the lady is.
Most negatives go up very quickly to try to protect other punters from wasting cash. One neg was done and up on UKP less than 15 mins after the punt.


Offline billybobsmith

Personally I leave my positive reviews a certain length of time to try protect my identity. How long depends on how busy the lady is.
Most negatives go up very quickly to try to protect other punters from wasting cash. One neg was done and up on UKP less than 15 mins after the punt.

My last review went up around a week afterwards.

Partly for the identity reason.  If you mention something that stands out about the meet, and the woman is on these forums / or someone tells her of the review, 2 and 2 could be put together and if she still has your number, who knows?  Give it a few days or longer, and hopefully she's met a few others and things might not be as clear cut.

Secondly, I was away and never had access to my pc (can't access this site on my phone, and hotel wi-fi seems to get refused access all the time, so I have to be at home on my personal pc)

If I did something local and it turned out to be really bad, B&S etc., then I would try and review that bit quicker.




Offline irwinuk

Op - i have made a small change to your heading to (hopefully) give it more meaning. Are you suggesting this is a London only thing or a national thing? If the latter, we can move it to the main national board!

Thanks ! The change makes sense. I’ve only experienced this in London area, no clue about national situation - maybe others can confirm/deny it happening there too.
Regarding some of the answers, this is not an “accusing x” post, it’s just a mere observation and the curiosity stands in the reason why it happens  :)

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ok. I will move this thread to the general/national board and others can add to it if they want.  (Mods can always move it back if they think it should have stayed in London)

Offline wheeliebinwanking

My last review went up around a week afterwards.

Partly for the identity reason.  If you mention something that stands out about the meet, and the woman is on these forums / or someone tells her of the review, 2 and 2 could be put together and if she still has your number, who knows?  Give it a few days or longer, and hopefully she's met a few others and things might not be as clear cut.

Secondly, I was away and never had access to my pc (can't access this site on my phone, and hotel wi-fi seems to get refused access all the time, so I have to be at home on my personal pc)

If I did something local and it turned out to be really bad, B&S etc., then I would try and review that bit quicker.

Pretty much this.....OR you can put up a review and say it was from a week or two ago. One has to try and mask their identity somewhat

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Offline thimble29

With girls that tour a lot and only do 2/3 nights in one place, even an immediate review doesn't help those of us nearby that need a day or two to sort out wife/kid logistics....but they are helpful for others in the new location. So even if a review isn't helpful to you it might be for others in another city, just like reviews from there might help you.

Offline Ron89

I'm one of the people you're referring to and there's good reason behind it, mainly not wanting to elevate the profile of the W/G that you intend to revisit. I was actually going to write a thread about this in more detail and will post it shortly. 

Offline puntingpumping1920

I'm one of the people you're referring to and there's good reason behind it, mainly not wanting to elevate the profile of the W/G that you intend to revisit. I was actually going to write a thread about this in more detail and will post it shortly.

 
That is simpish behaviour
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I'm one of the people you're referring to and there's good reason behind it, mainly not wanting to elevate the profile of the W/G that you intend to revisit. I was actually going to write a thread about this in more detail and will post it shortly.

Good job all members do not take that view!!!

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That is simpish behaviour
Or common sense? Popularity will explode, availability will dwindle and rates will increase substantially. It's bitten me many times. Why on earth do you think there's so many lurkers here?

Offline Ron89

Good job all members do not take that view!!!
I'm convinced 90% of positive reviews are only written because the punter does not intend to revisit.

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I'm convinced 90% of positive reviews are only written because the punter does not intend to revisit.

Abolute balderdash.

Offline alabama1

I'm convinced 90% of positive reviews are only written because the punter does not intend to revisit.
Is that what you do then ?

Offline billybobsmith

I'm convinced 90% of positive reviews are only written because the punter does not intend to revisit.

I would have thought that providing a negative review might be better in order to put others off going to see that special girl you might want to keep to yourself.

My reviews, whilst limited as I favour SA, and a few punts were before I joined here, I try to keep pretty honest.  I won't white knight even if it was amazing, and I try to give the positives and negatives so people can make up their own minds. 
You can't guarantee that my positive won't be a negative for someone else and vice versa.  YMMV.

I've had times in the past where I've been working somewhere, in a hotel, and fancied some company where an outcall or incall.  Regardless of the experience, I might never be in her neck of the woods again, either work wise, or I'm not driving 5hrs to say Glasgow for a repeat.
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Offline WelshClipper

Pretty much this.....OR you can put up a review and say it was from a week or two ago. One has to try and mask their identity somewhat

WBW

THIS  :hi:

The date I put on my review has no bearing on the date of the actual booking. Plus I make sure the sp is still active before I post. As for touting sps leaving your city, I see very few of these.

There was an exception, but that review was requested by another punter in the event she returns from retirement.

I think my main consideration is anonimity from the sp and my profile on AW. I certainly do not post with any intent to mislead or misinform other punters. 

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I would have thought that providing a negative review might be better in order to put others off going to see that special girl you might want to keep to yourself.
That is not the way the site works as you should well know since you've been here well over 6 years.

For the site to keep working as it is reviews must be an accurate reflection of what happened during the punt. Anyone found to be posting fake reviews will get an immediate and permanent ban.

Posting false reviews or not posting a review at all because "you want to keep her to yourself" is something more suited to the crap posted in AW feedback, not here.

Offline Mr Sinister

I would have thought that providing a negative review might be better in order to put others off going to see that special girl you might want to keep to yourself.


Can't wrap my head around that one, wouldn't exactly be doing the wg any favours. I'm sure many reviews aren't posted because a punter wants to get his fill of her or she might be a regular.

Or common sense? Popularity will explode, availability will dwindle and rates will increase substantially. It's bitten me many times. Why on earth do you think there's so many lurkers here?

That's just how the game goes, you know soon as some slim hot young thing at a reasonable rate gets reviewed here it's game over not really my thing so I've got nothing to be protective about.

Going back to OP original point wg come and go all the time, at the end of the day the decision lays with you to go visit, not wait on a review or more intel that's why we call it punting. I appreciate all work members do on here finding girls let alone reviewing, if I miss out on one that is down to me no one else.
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Offline billybobsmith

Can't wrap my head around that one, wouldn't exactly be doing the wg any favours. I'm sure many reviews aren't posted because a punter wants to get his fill of her or she might be a regular.


Sort of reverse White Knighting (or EAS). 
There's some here, or have been, that have like to keep certain women to themselves.  Tactically, if they were to put a bad review up, the average person here wouldn't go near her, thus meaning he can see her more easily and prices won't increase due to popularity.
I'm sure some do think along those lines, although hopefully a very small minority.

Same sort of thing as telling prospective buyers for next door's house, dodgy stories that put them off buying.  People do do that sort of thing.

At the end of the day here, if I'm looking for someone, a negative review will generally put me off even considering her.  I may read why she was that bad, but I won't try to book her (unless it turns out to be 1 out of say 20 bad reviews in which case it becomes a judgement call).

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I'm convinced 90% of positive reviews are only written because the punter does not intend to revisit.

Very cynical view.

I posted a positive yesterday and I very much intend to revisit, within weeks.  The positive before that I have revisited and the one before that I will next time I am in Wales.

I just flicked over my reviews and the vast majority of positives I have revisited, where not it is generally because of geography, for example I have not been unfortunate to be in Bedford again!

There are many members who do not like to revisit the same WG so fair enough.  However other than that I do not believe you are right.

Offline Atrueyorkie

I'm convinced 90% of positive reviews are only written because the punter does not intend to revisit.

I agree, usually an end of their saga.

To the OP. I always a lengthy amount of time due to privacy reasons. The longer the better and less likely the SP/WG can distinguish. On the bad side mainly for viva ads they expire quickly so those type of reviews you have to just wait till they re-advertise and as the OP get badgered with the relentless “what’s her number” even though it’s against the rules to post the number of the ad is down. It’s the equivalent of your younger sibling asking to play (gaming) with you, just give him a disconnected controller and hope he shuts up.

I do however post negatives ASAP, I feel obligated to tell fellow punters if they are going to waste there money with a shite time and detail as much as I can why. Negatives in my opinion need to be posted asap.

I see Ron’s points on being selfish with your preferred regular/choice and delay that way or even not post. It’s default human nature to look after yourself first.

Offline shed

I would have thought that providing a negative review might be better in order to put others off going to see that special girl you might want to keep to yourself.


That puts the credibility of this site in jeopardy.

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That puts the credibility of this site in jeopardy.

Everything needs to be taken with a pinch of salt to be honest.  We can all write fluffy reviews, miss out specifics, gloss over things when trying not to make her out to be too bad or to offend etc., but as I said, at the end of the day, it's your judgement call whether you see someone and no matter how glowing the previous 20 reviews are, you may have the worst punt ever.
Definitely a few reviewed here who have loads of positive reviews and then suddenly it's negative, neutral, negative, negative etc.  People don't click, she has a lot of bad days and so on.

I definitely trust the reviews here compared to AW.



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That puts the credibility of this site in jeopardy.

 
There a few punters  on here that post fake reviews
 
You can't trust every author
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Offline puntingpumping1920

Or common sense? Popularity will explode, availability will dwindle and rates will increase substantially. It's bitten me many times. Why on earth do you think there's so many lurkers here?

 
Fair enough
 
TBF, that has never stopped me from posting a review
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There a few punters  on here that post fake reviews
 
You can't trust every author

I obviously know that . But to state "I would have thought that providing a negative review might be better in order to put others off going to see that special girl you might want to keep to yourself" is barmy and adds no value whatsoever to the site or the issue in question

Offline billybobsmith

I obviously know that . But to state "I would have thought that providing a negative review might be better in order to put others off going to see that special girl you might want to keep to yourself" is barmy and adds no value whatsoever to the site or the issue in question

That was just an example of the polar opposite to posting a "positive review and not seeing the girl again" comment.
I'm not implying people should do it all as it blurs the truthfulness of anything reviewers may write.

Going back to the original topic, the sooner the better reviews are posted, the better it could be for everyone. 
I do understand that some people may see someone today, but not join this site for 3 months, so their review is 3 months old.
Others may post immediately afterwards especially is bad.
Others like myself may post when the opportunity arises.
etc.


Offline rubric

Others may post immediately afterwards especially is bad.
Others like myself may post when the opportunity arises.
etc.

I review less as I make other arrangements these days, but for me it depends on how generic the experience was.  If there were particular things I think the girl might be likely to remember I leave it a while even with a positive. In spite of using a punting phone I don't want to deal with the aggro of some girl taking something the wrong way (and I've had this early on in my punting career when reviewing on the other site).  Especially as you never know what might cause a WG to go off on one.

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There a few punters  on here that post fake reviews
 
You can't trust every author

Have you reported the authors of fake reviews?

Offline Aldebaran

I'm convinced 90% of positive reviews are only written because the punter does not intend to revisit.

What a load of crap! What possible motive would that serve? I tend to write positive reviews quite soon after the punt, and negative or neutral ones some time later to avoid any come back. I have written positive reviews for SPs that I have been back to several times. Some have realised it must be me because of the description of the session, and one thanked me because in the couple of weeks following the review she had a lot of extra custom, not that I wrote it for her benefit but for the benefit of the members here.
You seem to have totally the wrong idea about and the wrong attitude to this site.
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Offline Aldebaran

Have you reported the authors of fake reviews?

There are two problems with doing that. Firstly, how do you prove that a review is fake? A certain banned and unlamented member ( you all know who I mean ) posted fake reviews for years before he was caught out.
Secondly, in the past members who have reported fake reviews have occasionally been threatened with banning themselves if they have pointed the finger at a well liked and respected member, even though at times they have eventually been proved right.
Reviews are subject to personal interpretation of the punt, the SP, and the tastes of the punter. It's very difficult to pin down a fake review beyond doubt.

Offline Ron89

What a load of crap! What possible motive would that serve? I tend to write positive reviews quite soon after the punt, and negative or neutral ones some time later to avoid any come back. I have written positive reviews for SPs that I have been back to several times. Some have realised it must be me because of the description of the session, and one thanked me because in the couple of weeks following the review she had a lot of extra custom, not that I wrote it for her benefit but for the benefit of the members here.
You seem to have totally the wrong idea about and the wrong attitude to this site.
How can you not understand the logic? Positive review = heightened popularity, less availability, higher rates.

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How can you not understand the logic? Positive review = heightened popularity, less availability, higher rates.

how about positive review = heightened popularity which gives the WG enough business to make it worth her while rather than moving on or giving up. You seriously over estimate UKP effect and influence if you think it makes such a HUGE difference.

Offline Ron89

how about positive review = heightened popularity which gives the WG enough business to make it worth her while rather than moving on or giving up. You seriously over estimate UKP effect and influence if you think it makes such a HUGE difference.
It does, sometimes to a laughable level. Not sure how you haven’t come across such cases

Offline theaccountant

It depends of me. If I choose to review a girl on the day of my meet, 9/10 I’m not going to see her again. Other times I will review a girl after 2-3 meets if I’m still not sure of it. For sale day review, I don’t worry too much about my anonymity as I don’t tell them anything personal about my life, name, profession, etc. I only use a punting phone so even if they tried, they wouldn’t be able to trace it back to the real me.

Generally, if I do have a meet that is out of the ordinary where things that have happened in the meet can be unique to single me out. I will wait to post a review, how long I wait will depend on my comfort level.

Offline Atrueyorkie

how about positive review = heightened popularity which gives the WG enough business to make it worth her while rather than moving on or giving up. You seriously over estimate UKP effect and influence if you think it makes such a HUGE difference.

It’s so common that ukp reviews boosting their traffic significantly. Happens all the time and in turn prices are boosted. I’ve lost track of the frequency it happens, I literally came across a comment recently saying a sp thanked a reviewer as it boosted her customers tenfold

Offline Aldebaran

How can you not understand the logic? Positive review = heightened popularity, less availability, higher rates.

I tend to think that any such effect would be very temporary, and after a week or two the bookings would settle back down to previous levels. Not all girls would follow this path of upping their rates anyway, and the ones that would aren't worth bothering with as they are purely gold diggers with no real interest in their clients or the job.
There's a certain lady in the North East who has over 25 positive reviews on this site, but her prices are still £50 for 30mins and £100 an hour. Kind of disproves your idea.

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I pretty much review the same day,I've posted a glowing reports which had no discernible on the SPs business.
Have posted same day negatives and I imagine the result is largely the same,I don't think UKP members represent the majority of punters.
The reviews are gold for us members though.

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Offline wheeliebinwanking

I pretty much review the same day,I've posted a glowing reports which had no discernible on the SPs business.
Have posted same day negatives and I imagine the result is largely the same,I don't think UKP members represent the majority of punters.
The reviews are gold for us members though.

For me, just review right. Many WG's go on tour so the main thing is a review goes up. I often search for AW links not for girls in my city

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There are two problems with doing that. Firstly, how do you prove that a review is fake? A certain banned and unlamented member ( you all know who I mean ) posted fake reviews for years before he was caught out.
Secondly, in the past members who have reported fake reviews have occasionally been threatened with banning themselves if they have pointed the finger at a well liked and respected member, even though at times they have eventually been proved right.
Reviews are subject to personal interpretation of the punt, the SP, and the tastes of the punter. It's very difficult to pin down a fake review beyond doubt.

Then PP1920 can only have suspicions. If he knew which reviews were fake he could provide the evidence which gave him such certainty.

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For me, just review right. Many WG's go on tour so the main thing is a review goes up. I often search for AW links not for girls in my city

WBW

Same here,some ignore girls not in their area blind to the point they tour  :D
As for fake reviews there is simply no way of knowing.
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Offline dobob

How can you not understand the logic? Positive review = heightened popularity, less availability, higher rates.

Your logic is clear, but your motivation seems all wrong to me. I post reviews (positive or negative) when I think I have something to say that  may give useful information or be of interest to other punters. To carry your line of thinking to its logical conclusion, you should be posting bad reviews of your favourite WGs to keep them ready for you at a bargain basement price. (This won't work.)

Cheers!

Offline SeekingSteve

How can you not understand the logic? Positive review = heightened popularity, less availability, higher rates.

With 10 of your last 50 positive its hard to know which to believe now.
Are the negs the gems ?
You go against everything this site is about. I do see what you mean about the heightened popularity, but surely you would want that for the WG ? End of the day she is trying to pay bills like the rest of us, if you care about them that much then you should be happy more guys are dumping cash on them. Borderline EAS or more jealousy that the next guy might fuck her better than you can  :lol:

Offline Ron89

With 10 of your last 50 positive its hard to know which to believe now.
Are the negs the gems ?
You go against everything this site is about. I do see what you mean about the heightened popularity, but surely you would want that for the WG ? End of the day she is trying to pay bills like the rest of us, if you care about them that much then you should be happy more guys are dumping cash on them. Borderline EAS or more jealousy that the next guy might fuck her better than you can  :lol:
Don’t give a fuck what you think tbh, the London punters know my reviews are genuine. In fact, visit those I gave negatives and dare come back and tell me that they’re gems.

You clearly don’t like to hear it but most punters here are like me; they just won’t openly admit to holding back on gems until they’re done seeing them. Whereas I say it like it is and can deal with the backlash.
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Offline Ron89

Your logic is clear, but your motivation seems all wrong to me. I post reviews (positive or negative) when I think I have something to say that  may give useful information or be of interest to other punters. To carry your line of thinking to its logical conclusion, you should be posting bad reviews of your favourite WGs to keep them ready for you at a bargain basement price. (This won't work.)

Cheers!
Good on you but you’re in the minority. We’re self-interested by nature and I’d rather help my own punting than strangers on the internet. Like I said, once I’m finished with the girl I’m happy to rave about her chapter and verse.

Writing false negatives is a step beyond even my desperation to keep a W/G hidden, not to mention it being morally backwards. Plus I think I would have been rumbled by now if I were doing that circa 150 reviews later.
 

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Then PP1920 can only have suspicions. If he knew which reviews were fake he could provide the evidence which gave him such certainty.

I called out a member for his credibility on reviews and got told I was being too harsh. That same member has been caught out posting false info on SP features since.

Offline Slow grinder

If a PUNT, in my view is Negative, and that in no way would any fellow punter enjoy it or would be scammed of get VFM, then I Review/Post immediately or as soon after the punt as possible, in order to protect/help my fellow punters. As per my last review ref Viva st coventry Small heath roms ... 'An avoided nightmare'.
Positive punts I tend to post a little later, for no other reason than I just do.... Information about possible scamming/cleanliness/danger in my view is more important than me 'waxing lyrical' about how good a punt was.. yes that's also useful info but as many of the above posts have said "one mans meat is another mans poison".

Offline Hobbit

Many of us write reviews after a few weeks to keep anonymity and also to give us time to collect and reflect on the session to write an accurate review. Others, will write reviews after they have shagged the girl enough times until they are bored as they don't want to share with others due to EAS or they are worried about not getting a booking if the girl gets popular.

I personally, prefer to have a few girls on the go, as experience has taught me that you should never be fully dependent on one girl as this can lead to EAS and also a problem when they retire as you would need to then find a replacement. Also, if I wanted a wife I would have got married! :D