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Offline Simple

100% agree. You can tell what sort of person someone is going to be on the phone, not just race wise but if they do have a good attitude or not. Even if there White and talk to me like shit of course I won't see them!
If you can actually not only determine someone's race via a phone call, but also whether they have a good attitude or not why the blanket ban on Black and Asian men instead of treating them as individuals and deciding whether you'd want to see them like White men...

What a stupid post! Hair is not the same at all! Your just trying to compare it to things now that make no sense. I have only had to turn down someone once anyway as i do ask on the phone!
I sure some people consider things such as race as arbitrary as hair colour...

Offline Lurtz

If you can actually not only determine someone's race via a phone call, but also whether they have a good attitude or not why the blanket ban on Black and Asian men instead of treating them as individuals and deciding whether you'd want to see them like White men...
I'm sure some people consider things such as race as arbitrary as hair colour...

... or dress size.

Offline Cactus

What a stupid post! Hair is not the same at all! Your just trying to compare it to things now that make no sense. I have only had to turn down someone once anyway as i do ask on the phone!

You said earlier in this thread....I have had them turn up at the door and several times i have just said
''Very sorry i am afraid i can not see you because i do not escort men of your race ect''

Several is more than once in my book!  And you didn't answer my question either, what sort of reaction did you get when you turned the several/one guys/guy away at the door because of the colour of their skin?

While I agree that you can see whoever you want, I was trying to point out that you would feel awkward if you turned up for something after making a booking and were turned away for something beyond your control.  Perhaps hair colour was not the best example and I conceed that.

To term my whole post as a "stupid post" was rather rude, alot of what I said on there agreed with you and was merely trying to make a point about being turned away for something outwith your control.  Not everyone on here is out to get you

Offline Matium

I think a WG should always avoid a scene on her doorstep. Bear in mind that the guy will have spent a lot in time and money and turning him away at your doorstep is very likely to piss him off. Anything could happen, he could start arguing with you, shouting, causing a scene - the last thing you want is all your neighbours to know that you are a prostitute.

If he is really aggrieved and upset that you have turned him away at your doorstep, he could come back in the middle of the night with posters posted in your neighbours' letter boxes saying: "Do you know a prostitute lives next door?" with full details of you, including your photo.

Once all your neighbours know all about you, the atmosphere will turn so hostile that you'll have no alternative except to leave the area.

Honesty is always best, just put a notice up saying you won't see some men, you'll be better off and so will they.

Offline Matium


Regarding ethnicity. I have seen a couple of girls who told me they wouldn't see Asians as they had been victims of the men doing a runner in the past. I was also in Arabesque parlour once when an Asian guy came in and tried to barter the price down by ten quid. As it wasn't that expensive in the first place it was fucking embarrassing for the sake of ten quid. He eventually paid the proper price, went upstairs and left within ten minutes. When the girl returned she said it was the easiest money she had ever made!
Many years ago I was selling a computer and an Asian guy came to look at it. It was a long time ago before ebay and could actually have been my very first computer. He kept saying that it hadn't got a USB port so he couldn't attach a camera. It was so long ago that at the time I didn't even know what a USB port was! However I would have thought even then a computer would have at least one USB port. This one I am using now has six! However as I say at the time I didn't know what he was talking about. Anyway the bottom line was he was obviously trying to get me to reduce the price, although at no time did he talk money. After wasting about an hour pratting about looking at it and umming and erring he left without making the purchase. I subsequently found out he had a market stall and was a dealer.
However last year I sold a computer on ebay. When I discovered that the buyer had an Asian name I must admit because of my previous experience I was wary when he came to collect it, thinking there would be more bartering. However he conducted the transaction perfectly without any fuss. It probably helped that I was virtually giving it away anyway!

It is worth differentiating. "Asian" is not a particularly popular term.. British Hindus and Sikhs tend to shun and abhor the term, because they don't want to be associated with Muslims. In most of the times, when an "Asian" is said to have upset and annoyed a WG, it turns out to have been a Muslim.

British Hindus and Sikhs are, in the main, honest and decent people.

Offline Knick

I have only had to turn down someone once anyway as i do ask on the phone!
So actually you ask? I thought you try to figure it out based on their voice. If it only happened once (as opposed to "several times") what happened, did you forget to ask? Did he lie? How did he react?

Offline TeenKylie

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You said earlier in this thread....I have had them turn up at the door and several times i have just said
''Very sorry i am afraid i can not see you because i do not escort men of your race ect''

Several is more than once in my book!  And you didn't answer my question either, what sort of reaction did you get when you turned the several/one guys/guy away at the door because of the colour of their skin?

While I agree that you can see whoever you want, I was trying to point out that you would feel awkward if you turned up for something after making a booking and were turned away for something beyond your control.  Perhaps hair colour was not the best example and I conceed that.

To term my whole post as a "stupid post" was rather rude, alot of what I said on there agreed with you and was merely trying to make a point about being turned away for something outwith your control.  Not everyone on here is out to get you
Right okay let me correct myself. There has only ever been one guy turn up at my door that i have had to turn down. When I worked for an agency and I had an appointment I had to leave a few times because they were Asain or Black and when I was just was not comfortable in general. The guy in question that came to me was actually really polite and nice about it, he just asked me if I would re consider but I did not feel comfortable and that was the end of it. It was my fault not to ask before hand yes so I try and not make the same mistake again.

Offline TeenKylie

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I think a WG should always avoid a scene on her doorstep. Bear in mind that the guy will have spent a lot in time and money and turning him away at your doorstep is very likely to piss him off. Anything could happen, he could start arguing with you, shouting, causing a scene - the last thing you want is all your neighbours to know that you are a prostitute.

If he is really aggrieved and upset that you have turned him away at your doorstep, he could come back in the middle of the night with posters posted in your neighbours' letter boxes saying: "Do you know a prostitute lives next door?" with full details of you, including your photo.

Once all your neighbours know all about you, the atmosphere will turn so hostile that you'll have no alternative except to leave the area.

Honesty is always best, just put a notice up saying you won't see some men, you'll be better off and so will they.
Thanks for the advice but I think it is a little OTT. You would have to be quite sick in the head to do somthing like that and I would not let anyone drive me out of my home. Also I do have my driver outside on every booking I take and he notes down what car they were driving ect so I do have a good level of security for myself.

Offline Cactus

Right okay let me correct myself. There has only ever been one guy turn up at my door that i have had to turn down. When I worked for an agency and I had an appointment I had to leave a few times because they were Asain or Black and when I was just was not comfortable in general. The guy in question that came to me was actually really polite and nice about it, he just asked me if I would re consider but I did not feel comfortable and that was the end of it. It was my fault not to ask before hand yes so I try and not make the same mistake again.

See Kylie, that wasn't so hard was it  :P

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Thanks for the advice but I think it is a little OTT. You would have to be quite sick in the head to do somthing like that and I would not let anyone drive me out of my home. Also I do have my driver outside on every booking I take and he notes down what car they were driving ect so I do have a good level of security for myself.

Now they know you note number plates they might come on foot. Are you not worried about wasting your own time too? Respect for yourself as well your clients (or not!) time. Do you want to be getting ready, turn down other offers to say "No thank you" at the door? Unfortunately there are guys who might not read the site, or think "It'll be ok when I get there" but at least you've reduced the chances by stating it clearly.

Offline TeenKylie

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Now they know you note number plates they might come on foot. Are you not worried about wasting your own time too? Respect for yourself as well your clients (or not!) time. Do you want to be getting ready, turn down other offers to say "No thank you" at the door? Unfortunately there are guys who might not read the site, or think "It'll be ok when I get there" but at least you've reduced the chances by stating it clearly.
No because i need a certain level for my security. If they came on foot they would still need to be spoted before actually coming to my door. What do you expect me to say? In wrong I should see people I really don't want to? No way! I have enough highly rated feedback to prove I'm the real deal, a nice girl and worth it. Clients should not be worried about my security measures they should be happy I keep myself safe and I have had no problems with it so far!

Offline Matium

I should see people I really don't want to?

I should hope that no one would ever say that. Certainly, I never would.

All women, at all times, must have the right to choose whom they wish to see.

Forcing a woman to see a man whom she doesn't want to see is Rape.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2011, 03:20:40 PM by Matium »

Offline Matium

Thanks for the advice but I think it is a little OTT.

I was setting out the worst case scenario for you!

You've got to think of every possibility and circumstance.

:)

Offline Daffodil

Thanks for the advice but I think it is a little OTT. You would have to be quite sick in the head to do somthing like that and I would not let anyone drive me out of my home. Also I do have my driver outside on every booking I take and he notes down what car they were driving ect so I do have a good level of security for myself.

I had noticed an unusually high number of pizza delivery and flower delivery vans outside pro$$ies working premises  ;) Very MI5.

I can't say I'd be happy knowing my car details/number plate was being taken down by the WGs I visit (I usually park a distance away anyway but how far away does she have her spies?). Not due to my being a security risk I may add.

Is this common wg practice? And what do other punters think? I'm not going to have to get a puntng car am I?

I don't think I would want to punt with TK anyway (no offence, just not my type) but the more she writes, the more that feeling is confirmed.

Offline James999

Also I do have my driver outside on every booking I take and he notes down what car they were driving ect

I'm sure clients would not like the idea of being watched and details noted by your "driver / boyfriend / pimp" as apart from anything else the data could fall into the wrong hands.

And what happens if it turns out you are being controlled or coerced. it has been said before that you speak as if oyu are experienced and "know it all" yet in reality you are clearly naive and have again created a potential problem for guys who may decide to visit you,as you did when you escorted wben 17 (or so you say)


Offline TeenKylie

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I'm sure clients would not like the idea of being watched and details noted by your "driver / boyfriend / pimp" as apart from anything else the data could fall into the wrong hands.

And what happens if it turns out you are being controlled or coerced. it has been said before that you speak as if oyu are experienced and "know it all" yet in reality you are clearly naive and have again created a potential problem for guys who may decide to visit you,as you did when you escorted wben 17 (or so you say)
How ment times do I have to say I don't have a fucking pimp! Or a bloody bf! This is a very trusted friend of mine and it's for my own bloody safety don't you get that? The clients that I have told have been fine about it and actually have said it's a good thing to do. Do I care what you lot say? No I really don't haha. I'm fine doing things just the way I do then. Thankyou. And cut the bullshIit about my age! I've already proved you all wrong by being visited by a punter from here so move on! FFS!
« Last Edit: July 17, 2011, 04:08:38 PM by TeenKylie »

Offline Lecturer

here we go... why do you have to make that bit up, why not just say "I don't want to sleep with black men, it's your choice but when you start to make excuses and deny you are racist that you lose face.

You will probably tell us you have a black friend next  :scare:
Exactly.

Everyone should have a right to choose to see whoever they want, but please don't insult intelligence with convenient and lazy excuses like "due to previous bad experiences". For crying out loud, it's not as though she's never had negative experiences with white clients! It's shameless double standards, pure and simple.

There's nothing wrong with stating that you'd rather not see people of certain races. To ban someone solely based on their race/ethnicity, is racist - but in this game there's nothing wrong with that. Not making it clear from the get go, though, is unacceptable. It may not be ideal, but it shows courage of conviction and is far preferable to the alternative (wasting an unsuspecting punter's time and money). TK is cowardly scum as far as I'm concerned. 

I'd be lying if I said her attitude was surprising. She is quite clearly an idiot of the highest order. Reading her posts,  she struggles with something as basic as spelling. Spelling! I'd be inclined to forgive if she was a minor, or if English was not her first language; however, neither is the case. To be fair, choosing to lie on her back for a living was uncharacteristically astute.

Quite simply, debate should not be wasted on her. 

One more thing TK, STOP banging on about that thread and moaning about abuse. Jimmy didn't take the piss just because you had it on your profile. He did so because you then went on to say you weren't racist! I mean, what else would you call it? (Rhetorical question before you try to answer with some nonsense).

« Last Edit: July 17, 2011, 04:09:44 PM by Lecturer »

Offline Strawberry

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I'm sure clients would not like the idea of being watched and details noted by your "driver / boyfriend / pimp" as apart from anything else the data could fall into the wrong hands.

And what happens if it turns out you are being controlled or coerced. it has been said before that you speak as if oyu are experienced and "know it all" yet in reality you are clearly naive and have again created a potential problem for guys who may decide to visit you,as you did when you escorted wben 17 (or so you say)

It's also not a good idea to publicise your security set up(sorry I know this is purely from a WG perspective but it's true). Most clients would not like the idea they are being watched when visiting a premises, by anyone security or not.

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Exactly.

Everyone should have a right to choose to see whoever they want, but please don't insult intelligence with convenient and lazy excuses like "due to previous bad experiences". For crying out loud, it's not as though she's never had negative experiences with white clients! It's shameless double standards, pure and simple.

There's nothing wrong with stating that you'd rather not see people of certain races. To ban someone solely based on their race/ethnicity, is racist - but in this game there's nothing wrong with that. Not making it clear from the  :yahoo: with something as basic as spelling. Spelling! I'd be inclined to forgive if she was a minor, or if English was not her first language; however, neither is the case. To be fair, choosing to lie on her back for a living was uncharacteristically astute.
Well what nasty scum you are then. And I am so grateful I don't get clients like you and that people enjoy my company because they keep coming back!

Offline James999

It's also not a good idea to publicise your security set up(.

I agree, every girls should have "security" in place, but it is a subject best not discussed in open forum for obvious reasons.

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It's also not a good idea to publicise your security set up(sorry I know this is purely from a WG perspective but it's true). Most clients would not like the idea they are being watched when visiting a premises, by anyone security or not.
Give over your all seriously grating on me! I try and give you a fucking Awnser to your questions and say when I'm wrong and you still don't stop.

Offline Daffodil

It's also not a good idea to publicise your security set up(sorry I know this is purely from a WG perspective but it's true). Most clients would not like the idea they are being watched when visiting a premises, by anyone security or not.

I think this is pretty sensible advice.

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I had noticed an unusually high number of pizza delivery and flower delivery vans outside pro$$ies working premises  ;) Very MI5.

I can't say I'd be happy knowing my car details/number plate was being taken down by the WGs I visit (I usually park a distance away anyway but how far away does she have her spies?). Not due to my being a security risk I may add.

Is this common wg practice? And what do other punters think? I'm not going to have to get a puntng car am I?

I don't think I would want to punt with TK anyway (no offence, just not my type) but the more she writes, the more that feeling is confirmed.
Well thanks for that I am really going to lose sleep over it! I have a great clientele and get loads of repeat business!

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Give over your all seriously grating on me! I try and give you a fucking Awnser to your questions and say when I'm wrong and you still don't stop.

TK I am giving you some constructive advice, it's not a personal dig. Being a WG is a learning curve and mistakes will be made.

Offline James999

Give over your all seriously grating on me! I try and give you a fucking Awnser to your questions and say when I'm wrong and you still don't stop.

Have you ever thought that perhaps instead of you thinking everyone else is wrong and "against you" that in fact it could be that you are wrong and very aggressive towards people who offer you advice in an effort to help you.


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