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Offline Matium

Oh and don't start calling me racist or comparing this to fat,skinny,ugly guys because it IS differnt. I PERSONALY do not like the attitude of alot of asain men and i also have had a couple of unpleasent experinces with black men so it is my PERSONAL choice.[/b]

Don't charge me with saying things that I have never said.

Just so there's no confusion about what I believe, let me just say that a woman must always have the right to choose whom she wishes to see.

Forcing a woman to see a man whom she has no wish to see is known as Rape.

But, out of sheer honesty, a woman should clearly state on her Adultwork page, website or on the phone:

"I don't see men who are under 30/who are fat/who are black/who are brown/who are yellow/who are non-white" etc

Those men deserve that minimum respect so that they don't waste their hard earned money and can find a woman who will see them.

It's just the right, honest and ethical thing to do.

« Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 09:00:44 PM by Matium »

Offline James999

also have had a couple of unpleasent experinces with black men .[/b]

here we go... why do you have to make that bit up, why not just say "I don't want to sleep with black men, it's your choice but when you start to make excuses and deny you are racist that you lose face.

You will probably tell us you have a black friend next  :scare:

Just so there's no confusion about what I believe, let me just say that a woman must always have the right to choose whom she wishes to see.

Forcing a woman to see a man whom she has no wish to see is known as Rape.

But, out of sheer honesty, a woman should clearly state on her Adultwork page, website or on the phone:

"I don't see men who are under 30/who are fat/who are black/who are brown/who are yellow/who are non-white" etc

Those men deserve that minimum respect so that they don't waste their hard earned money and can find a woman who will see them.

It's just the right, honest and ethical thing to do.

100% agree with you

here we go... why do you have to make that bit up, why not just say "I don't want to sleep with black men, it's your choice but when you start to make excuses and deny you are racist that you lose face.

You will probably tell us you have a black friend next  :scare:

How do you know she's made it up?

Offline TeenKylie

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here we go... why do you have to make that bit up, why not just say "I don't want to sleep with black men, it's your choice but when you start to make excuses and deny you are racist that you lose face.

You will probably tell us you have a black friend next  :scare:

I actually do :D A couple actually :D alothough i know you won't believe me.

Offline TeenKylie

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Don't charge me with saying things that I have never said.

Just so there's no confusion about what I believe, let me just say that a woman must always have the right to choose whom she wishes to see.

Forcing a woman to see a man whom she has no wish to see is known as Rape.

But, out of sheer honesty, a woman should clearly state on her Adultwork page, website or on the phone:

"I don't see men who are under 30/who are fat/who are black/who are brown/who are yellow/who are non-white" etc

Those men deserve that minimum respect so that they don't waste their hard earned money and can find a woman who will see them.

It's just the right, honest and ethical thing to do.

I 100% agree with you aswell. Which is why i am going to seriously re think putting it back up on my profile.

Offline Marmalade

Nothin's changed eh . . . the old race question thread . . .

I treat everyone equally. The phrase "some more equally than others" simply refers - or should refer - to the situation. I'm more likely to pick a white person when I'm in South America or Asia if I want to ask directions in English. Failing that, someone who looks educated, regardless of race.

In terms of shagging, I'm more likely to pick people I find a turn-on physically.

In terms of business, I'm more likely to trust someone in a suit than a hoodie. This is unfair - the hoodie may be a thoroughly decent chap - and if I'm not overloaded with orders I might give him the time and consider him. But survival comes first. Business is not the same as charity.

I don't fancy Africans much (Brits of African ethnic origin are another matter - to me they are British - it's the cultural baggage I'm wary of, not the skin colour) - this might be due to my limited experiences or cultural factors or AIDS scares or just what I perceive as their size. I treat an African businessman or -woman exactly the same as any other business person - but personal taste doesn't come into it. If I repeatedly had bad dealings with Africans in business I might be reluctant to encourage African clients - easy. They are still equal in every respect as human beings and equal to me. But I can choose who I do business with and who I shag and, unless there is a convincing case of unfair discrimination, that's the way it stays.

This is personal taste. I don't fancy militant Zionists or bible-bashers much either. I'd rather shag an African tribal voodoo doctor any day or night (In fact it might be rather interesting). If I lived in Spain, I wouldn't fancy the hordes of drunken Brits either.

On the one hand I'm inclined to 'give the prossies a break' in the sense that they need to be able to do their job rather than write perfect profiles.

But prossies coming on here complaining and defending are really taking the biscuit and risking getting their hands chopped off. Fakers pretending to be prossies risk even more. Learn from the multitude. Have a read of the posts. If you haven't come to learn, then prossienet is safer place to put your point of view. (Unless you have the balls the size of Jo Brand  :D )



I'm supposed to be working and thought I'd come on for a rant - thanx for putting up  :P  :lol:  :lol:

Offline Sailormack

Racism has nothing to do with skin colour....it is about ethnenticity :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

Offline Keen Punter

That's my PERSONAL CHOICE. Just like the punter makes a choice about who HE WANTS TO SEE. I do care about peoples feelings. If i had an feeling they were not white when i was taking the booking i would NOT take it!

Oh and don't start calling me racist or comparing this to fat,skinny,ugly guys because it IS differnt. I PERSONALY do not like the attitude of alot of asain men and i also have had a couple of unpleasent experinces with black men so it is my PERSONAL choice.

Your choice of course, but you should clearly state it on your profile so that people don't waste any time pursuing a booking you won't honour.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Your choice of course, but you should clearly state it on your profile so that people don't waste any time pursuing a booking you won't honour.

I agree.
A girl is fully entitled to refuse to see black men, asian men ------ or cab drivers, but they should make it clear on their profile. ;)

Offline TeenKylie

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I agree.
A girl is fully entitled to refuse to see black men, asian men ------ or cab drivers, but they should make it clear on their profile. ;)
What a liar! You were the one that made fun of me when I used to say it on my profile! :dash:

Offline Keen Punter

She is tempting, very hot if genuine.

Offline Simple

Your choice of course, but you should clearly state it on your profile so that people don't waste any time pursuing a booking you won't honour.

What a liar! You were the one that made fun of me when I used to say it on my profile! :dash:
I concur with the likes of KP, your pretty much an useless option of a prossie to think about for any punter that happens to be darker than a slight tan and fact that you don't declare your blanket ban on Black and Asian men wastes their time even looking at your profile let alone calling you or even worse making a pointless journey only to be refused services based solely on their race...

How about developing a bit of thicker skin, you seem quite capable of taking the abuse and such from here anyhow, and giving those sorts of punters you deem undesirable for whatever reason the basic courtesy of clearly stating that you won't see them so they can look at more viable options instead of you....
« Last Edit: July 13, 2011, 04:03:04 AM by Simple »

Offline Keen Punter

This is Darren Lewis, a football journalist for the Daily Mirror.



For those who have heard him on Talksport, you would think he was a middle class white bloke who writes about football.

I imagine he would also be highly offended if he was asked whether he was a white British bloke because there is no way Kylie would tell on the phone he was black.

If you have it on your profile, you save his time and money trying to book you.

Offline NIK

Like tax this subject has been done to death over the years.
However what it does illustrate is once again this business is different to almost any other in that there is absolutely nowhere else where you would get away with saying the equivalent of 'we don't serve non whites.' You'd soon be up before the thought police.
However it is undoubtedly a woman's pregorative to refuse to see who she wants. Some women refuse to see under 25's or over 60's for example. Although how they tell if someone is 24 or 25 or 60 or 61 I don't know.
Personally I don't usually fancy non white women. I have probably seen a couple of mixed race wgs over the years. Indeed I recall the very first girl I ever saw in a parlour for my first ever punt! was mixed race, but I have never seen a black woman and can't see me ever doing so. I actually prefer pale skin, Indeed I'm not particularly keen on tans on white women, I'm not sure why they think it's attractive. Give me pale, natural skin colour any time.

Regarding ethnicity. I have seen a couple of girls who told me they wouldn't see Asians as they had been victims of the men doing a runner in the past. I was also in Arabesque parlour once when an Asian guy came in and tried to barter the price down by ten quid. As it wasn't that expensive in the first place it was fucking embarrassing for the sake of ten quid. He eventually paid the proper price, went upstairs and left within ten minutes. When the girl returned she said it was the easiest money she had ever made!
Many years ago I was selling a computer and an Asian guy came to look at it. It was a long time ago before ebay and could actually have been my very first computer. He kept saying that it hadn't got a USB port so he couldn't attach a camera. It was so long ago that at the time I didn't even know what a USB port was! However I would have thought even then a computer would have at least one USB port. This one I am using now has six! However as I say at the time I didn't know what he was talking about. Anyway the bottom line was he was obviously trying to get me to reduce the price, although at no time did he talk money. After wasting about an hour pratting about looking at it and umming and erring he left without making the purchase. I subsequently found out he had a market stall and was a dealer.
However last year I sold a computer on ebay. When I discovered that the buyer had an Asian name I must admit because of my previous experience I was wary when he came to collect it, thinking there would be more bartering. However he conducted the transaction perfectly without any fuss. It probably helped that I was virtually giving it away anyway!

In conclusion, and going back to prostitution, it does seem very unfair that some races are tarred because of the behaviour of a minority of their countrymen, however a woman always has the perfect right to refuse to see who she wants, but it is also always best to make it perfectly clear in her advertising.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2011, 06:23:17 AM by NIK »

Offline Mr XL

Like tax this subject has been done to death over the years.
However what it does illustrate is once again this business is different to almost any other in that there is absolutely nowhere else where you would get away with saying the equivalent of 'we don't serve non whites.' You'd soon be up before the thought police.
However it is undoubtedly a woman's pregorative to refuse to see who she wants. Some women refuse to see under 25's or over 60's for example. Although how they tell if someone is 24 or 25 or 60 or 61 I don't know.
Personally I don't usually fancy non white women. I have probably seen a couple of mixed race wgs over the years. Indeed I recall the very first girl I ever saw in a parlour for my first ever punt! was mixed race, but I have never seen a black woman and can't see me ever doing so. I actually prefer pale skin, Indeed I'm not particularly keen on tans on white women, I'm not sure why they think it's attractive. Give me pale, natural skin colour any time.

Regarding ethnicity. I have seen a couple of girls who told me they wouldn't see Asians as they had been victims of the men doing a runner in the past. I was also in Arabesque parlour once when an Asian guy came in and tried to barter the price down by ten quid. As it wasn't that expensive in the first place it was fucking embarrassing for the sake of ten quid. He eventually paid the proper price, went upstairs and left within ten minutes. When the girl returned she said it was the easiest money she had ever made!
Many years ago I was selling a computer and an Asian guy came to look at it. It was a long time ago before ebay and could actually have been my very first computer. He kept saying that it hadn't got a USB port so he couldn't attach a camera. It was so long ago that at the time I didn't even know what a USB port was! However I would have thought even then a computer would have at least one USB port. This one I am using now has six! However as I say at the time I didn't know what he was talking about. Anyway the bottom line was he was obviously trying to get me to reduce the price, although at no time did he talk money. After wasting about an hour pratting about looking at it and umming and erring he left without making the purchase. I subsequently found out he had a market stall and was a dealer.
However last year I sold a computer on ebay. When I discovered that the buyer had an Asian name I must admit because of my previous experience I was wary when he came to collect it, thinking there would be more bartering. However he conducted the transaction perfectly without any fuss. It probably helped that I was virtually giving it away anyway!

In conclusion, and going back to prostitution, it does seem very unfair that some races are tarred because of the behaviour of a minority of their countrymen, however a woman always has the perfect right to refuse to see who she wants, but it is also always best to make it perfectly clear in her advertising.

That's a very good post.

I too, have had similar experiences with Asians. It is part of some Asian cultures to barter and they don't see it as embarrassing in the way Westerners do.

And it's nice to see that I'm not the only one who prefers pale skin.

It looks more naked when unclothed.

i Have dealt with asians in the past and agree they can be a pain in the arse with there bartering but if i knew it was an asian we were working for i would normally up the price by 10% to allow for a reduction ....

Offline Strawberry

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When I first started out I read and heard that a lot of girls refused to see Asians. This was a result of bad experiences with guys of that ethnicity. In my part of the world ethnic minorities are in the minority, so when I got my first booking with an asian client I was very nervous - because of the stories I'd read. The guy actually picked up on this, and I actually felt terrible about it. Since then I've obviously chilled out about it, and recently I've noticed I'm getting a lot more enquiries from Asians. Perhaps it is because I don't discriminate. Who knows.

I have started to discriminate against younger clients though, and have entered this on my Adultwork profile. This is because I have found men under 21 have an increased tendency to be unreliable, demanding in their enquiries, indiscrete and haggle/not be able to afford my rates. Plus it does feel odd being with someone so young! I think those negative qualities are values truly exhibited by [most] youth, more so than saying folk of a certain ethnic group are theives or have a bad attitude.

Whoever a WG choses to see I'm sure she'd rather not spend her time dealing with enquiries from clients she isn't going to see, makes sense for her to state it clearly and prevent time being wasted by the punter too. Unless of course you just like answering the phone for sheer fun!
« Last Edit: July 13, 2011, 08:58:27 AM by Strawberry »

Offline Cactus

Don't be stupid! Im not that un professional. I have had them turn up at the door and several times i have just said
''Very sorry i am afraid i can not see you because i do not escort men of your race ect''

And what sort of reaction do you get to that?  I know what my reaction would be if I made the effort to travel and turn up at your door and was met with the comment "sorry I can't see you because I do not escort men from Scotland"
I know you said that you check on the phone before a booking, however in your comment above you claim "i'm not that unprofessional" and then come out with one of the most unprofessional comments I have ever heard.  Fair enough it's your perogative to see who you want, but should a gent slip through your limited screening process to be met with that sort of reaction on the doorstep, after I picked my jaw off the floor I would be furious with what is essentially discrimination due to race.  Put it on your page, ask it on the phone (twice if need be) but just make sure people you don't want to see even get near to your door step and put you in such an awkward situation.  It's not fair for you and not fair for the punter!
How would you feel if you turned up at the hairdressers looking for a service and were turned away at the doorstep "very sorry i am afraid i can not see you because i do not cut blonde hair"
I would like to point out that I am white!
« Last Edit: July 14, 2011, 12:36:18 AM by Cactus »

Offline Knick

Please girls put it on your profile if you don't want to see a particular race. Don't pay attention to any abuse/comments etc.

I'm (British born) Indian and I don't mind if a girl prefers not to see me, it's not as if there a serious lack of alternate WGs in this world. Besides I don't even blame them based on what I've heard.

I'd rather be with a girl who is comfortable with me. I personally treat WGs with respect despite the fact that some Indian/Pakistanis men behave like utter shits on a consistent basis. Although I think its the ones 'fresh off the boat' that behave like this.

To avoid people like TeenKylie I usually state "I'm a XXyr old male of Asian origin (British born). If that's OK with you, I'd like to meet up. If that's a problem then don't worry just let me know."

The last fucking thing I want is to travel 1+ hours only to be told on the doorstop sorry I won't see you etc. That would piss me off no end.

For those who have heard him on Talksport, you would think he was a middle class white bloke who writes about football.
I used to think David Croft on Five Live F1 was black until I saw a picture of him!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2011, 07:45:32 PM by Knick »

Offline kirp


TeenKylie you sound like you are turning into a bitter woman who will grow up to hate all men one day.

your idiotic and senseless tactics which wastes punters time is very primitive and undesirable.




 

Offline Louisa Leigh

Please girls put it on your profile if you don't want to see a particular race. Don't pay attention to any abuse/comments etc.

I'm (British born) Indian and I don't mind if a girl prefers not to see me, it's not as if there a serious lack of alternate WGs in this world. Besides I don't even blame them based on what I've heard.

I'd rather be with a girl who is comfortable with me. I personally treat WGs with respect despite the fact that some Indian/Pakistanis men behave like utter shits on a consistent basis. Although I think its the ones 'fresh off the boat' that behave like this.

To avoid people like TeenKylie I usually state "I'm a XXyr old male of Asian origin (British born). If that's OK with you, I'd like to meet up. If that's a problem then don't worry just let me know."

The last fucking thing I want is to travel 1+ hours only to be told on the doorstop sorry I won't see you etc. That would piss me off no end.
I used to think David Croft on Five Live F1 was black until I saw a picture of him!

Excellent post Knick!

The reason I don't have I don't see Asians on my Aw profile or website is because while I prefer not to see MOST Asians due to their awful attitudes to women in general, not just in the room I take them as any other guys making a booking as how they are on the phone when they call me. Rude, bartering the price etc then how bad are they going to be in person?  :scare:

So no need for it to be on my website/profile as I use the same filter on ALL potential clients rude and abusive on the phone then bye bye no booking and stored in my phone as a don't answer for future reference  ;)
Banning reason: Touting + Bad attitude towards punters

Offline TeenKylie

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TeenKylie you sound like you are turning into a bitter woman who will grow up to hate all men one day.

your idiotic and senseless tactics which wastes punters time is very primitive and undesirable.
Lmfao I can't be that undesirable when my phone don't stop ringing! Where the hell do you get that from??? I love my job and my clients! Your just another person who knows nothing about me as usual.

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And what sort of reaction do you get to that?  I know what my reaction would be if I made the effort to travel and turn up at your door and was met with the comment "sorry I can't see you because I do not escort men from Scotland"
I know you said that you check on the phone before a booking, however in your comment above you claim "i'm not that unprofessional" and then come out with one of the most unprofessional comments I have ever heard.  Fair enough it's your perogative to see who you want, but should a gent slip through your limited screening process to be met with that sort of reaction on the doorstep, after I picked my jaw off the floor I would be furious with what is essentially discrimination due to race.  Put it on your page, ask it on the phone (twice if need be) but just make sure people you don't want to see even get near to your door step and put you in such an awkward situation.  It's not fair for you and not fair for the punter!
How would you feel if you turned up at the hairdressers looking for a service and were turned away at the doorstep "very sorry i am afraid i can not see you because i do not cut blonde hair"
I would like to point out that I am white!
What a stupid post! Hair is not the same at all! Your just trying to compare it to things now that make no sense. I have only had to turn down someone once anyway as i do ask on the phone!

Offline TeenKylie

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Excellent post Knick!

The reason I don't have I don't see Asians on my Aw profile or website is because while I prefer not to see MOST Asians due to their awful attitudes to women in general, not just in the room I take them as any other guys making a booking as how they are on the phone when they call me. Rude, bartering the price etc then how bad are they going to be in person?  :scare:

So no need for it to be on my website/profile as I use the same filter on ALL potential clients rude and abusive on the phone then bye bye no booking and stored in my phone as a don't answer for future reference  ;)
100% agree. You can tell what sort of person someone is going to be on the phone, not just race wise but if they do have a good attitude or not. Even if there White and talk to me like shit of course I won't see them!


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