Paying Up Front? Or Perhaps Not......

[Toby]

its a business why the fuck shouldnt they check every other business does, tbh wouldnt take a 50.00 to a punt anyway and if you do expect it dont get the problem with her checking at all.

Personally speaking, because it pisses me off when a business blatantly checks a note that I hand over. I think it's rude. There are discrete ways to check notes, that don't involve the implied message that you are as untrustworthy as a Romanian AW profile.

WGs should always count and check the money handed to them. As you said, they are running a business. However, there are good ways of doing it and poor ways of doing it. If it was on an AW profile that the girl checked all notes for authenticity I would have no problem with blatant checks, because I would have been forewarned. I'd be happy to hold the notes under a UV light before handing them over, as long as I knew beforehand that was the routine.

[JV547845]

You might not know you've been given a forgery Toby, not that there're many forged tenners going round in all probability, but you could get them via cash back.

I'd prefer it if they counted and checked the money in front of me so I knew they weren't goign to try it on despite my check and recount at least 5 times rule, but only one ever has (out call).

[Toby]

You might not know you've been given a forgery Toby, not that there're many forged tenners going round in all probability, but you could get them via cash back.

I'd prefer it if they counted and checked the money in front of me so I knew they weren't goign to try it on despite my check and recount at least 5 times rule, but only one ever has (out call).

Agreed, but if I know upfront that a bank teller is going to step out of the closet to check the notes, I'm less likely to get annoyed at the implication. 

[dandaley]

ok flip the coin paying by card for instance they check ok albeit electronically in front of you that the card is good for the money so again no big deal to me 50 being a large note i know i would fucking check it and yeh never had a 50.00 out of an atm so that would be an instant flag for me.

[Toby]

ok flip the coin paying by card for instance they check ok albeit electronically in front of you that the card is good for the money so again no big deal to me 50 being a large note i know i would fucking check it and yeh never had a 50.00 out of an atm so that would be an instant flag for me.

I've only ever seen £10 or £20 notes from a cash machine, and £5 notes from ones on Uni campuses. A lot of shops won't accept £50 notes, for the simple reason that they are so rarely seen that staff don't know how to check them.

[adindas]

A very sensible outlook, we have one idiot on here who claims he would fight the pimp, simply not worth the risk.   

Gosh ....
He is probably ex member of Navy seal, or UFC world champion like Jon Jones ....

[Ali Katt]

I've only ever seen £10 or £20 notes from a cash machine, and £5 notes from ones on Uni campuses. A lot of shops won't accept £50 notes, for the simple reason that they are so rarely seen that staff don't know how to check them.

The new ones with two people on the back, show up under UV. The old ones with the rose on, don't. £20 is apparently the most forged half a million a year.

[Jimmyredcab]

its a business why the fuck shouldnt they check every other business does, tbh wouldnt take a 50.00 to a punt anyway and if you do expect it dont get the problem with her checking at all.

Simple answer, it's fucking rude to check every banknote, especially with a pen, I only look closely at £50 notes if I get one in the cab.

[Daffodil]

Correction ------------- YOU don't do it, you can't speak for others.   

Thanks for the correction Jimmy.

I would probably also have said "telling a prossie to increase her prices is not an issue, you don't do it", but of course we know that there are those who do just that 

Isn't that right, Jim?

[NIK]

It isn't a straightforward situation.

In parlours I have always paid afterwards, however with escorts when no one else is around I always offer the money up front. However in my experience the better punts are from ones who don't bother counting the money.

With Amy who I've seen maybe fifty times I simply leave it on the table, and not once has she even touched it in my presence - even on the first occasion. Another English girl called Tamara I saw half a dozen times in Covent Garden was also exactly like this.

Nicoletta also didn't use to touch the money, and I was once going up the stairs out of her premises when she called me back at exactly the same time as I remembered I hadn't paid! This was a long time ago and she still didn't touch the money even after that. However maybe the last four times I've seen her she has started counting the money and putting it away first. Now I don't mind as her service hasn't changed and remains absolutely top notch, but obviously it is surprising especially as she knows me so well. In my review of her that's what I meant when I said she seems to have become a more professional businesswoman as she has got older. Maybe she has been ripped off in recent years?

Had a couple of EE girls, Karolina in 2011 and Karina in 2007, the latter being a total nympho, who firmly refused my offer of the money up front. I'd already cum twice with Karina when she wanted me to stay over time without any extras charge and try to cum for a third time. I hadn't paid her anything at this point!

The great Carla of Sheffield who I used to do overnights with also would never touch the money beforehand. She always said, 'I haven't done anything to earn it yet' which summed up her fabulous attitude.

The bottom line is with an escort I would always offer the money first, especially if I hadn't seen her before. It gets it out of the way, shows you aren't going to do a runner and is therefore more likely to make the girl feel more relaxed, although if she's a bad un it will make no difference. However I have frequently had better service from those who don't count the money and put it away but just leave it alone.

In parlours the etiquette is usually to pay afterwards.

[JV547845]

Simple answer, it's fucking rude to check every banknote, especially with a pen, I only look closely at £50 notes if I get one in the cab.

A refined prossie with impeccable manners who's sensitive towards your delicate sensibilities is going to cost a bit extra...

[Jimmyredcab]

Thanks for the correction Jimmy.

I would probably also have said "telling a prossie to increase her prices is not an issue, you don't do it", but of course we know that there are those who do just that 

Isn't that right, Jim?

As I have said 467 times already, under identical circumstances I would advise the girl to increase her rates.   

Charging £50 for 30 minutes and trying to cut the time short is not acceptable.     

[James999]

In parlours I have always paid afterwards,

Are you sure?

My experience of parlours has been paying the girl up front and her leaving to hand the monry over, sometimes paying for extras at the end though.

[Jimmyredcab]

Are you sure?

My experience of parlours has been paying the girl up front and her leaving to hand the monry over, sometimes paying for extras at the end though.

Depends on your definition of a parlour, I assume NIK means "legitimate" parlours ------------- not brothels above a shop.   

[smiths]

Depends on your definition of a parlour, I assume NIK means "legitimate" parlours ------------- not brothels above a shop.   

IF sex is for sale there is no such thing as a legitimate parlour, they are ALL brothels thus illegal in reality irrespective of their location.

IF all thats on offer is a massage then thats different obviously, but i assume NIK was talking about parlours where sex was on offer, could be wrong on that though of course.

[smiths]

Are you sure?

My experience of parlours has been paying the girl up front and her leaving to hand the monry over, sometimes paying for extras at the end though.

Same here, its always been the norm in my experience to pay the WG first and often they go and safely stash the money away.

[tazz]

I dont get all this not accepting £50 notes business, as both £10 & £20 notes can be forged.
As for paying upfront i always do this but had 2 regulars that didnt ask or wait for me to pay them to get started, even after id hand her the cash she wouldnt count it and just put it away.

Also love seeing a women with money in her hands, just a fetish.

[Jimmyredcab]

Depends on your definition of a parlour, I assume NIK means "legitimate" parlours ------------- not brothels above a shop.   

This is my definition of a "legitimate" massage parlour ----------------------- please note I have said "legitimate" as oppose to legitimate.
These places tend to be licensed by the local council who will check for things like fire regulations, sex should not be on offer but of course it will be.
I used to visit one in Kentish Town called Omega, you paid £10 on the door and negotiated with the girl once inside the room, it was normal to pay after the service, there was a "bouncer" on the premises.

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[Jimmyredcab]

I dont get all this not accepting £50 notes business, as both £10 & £20 notes can be forged.

True, but if I accept a forged £50 note in the cab for a £10 fare it means that I have lost £40 of my own money.   

[smiths]

This is my definition of a "legitimate" massage parlour ----------------------- please note I have said "legitimate" as oppose to legitimate.
These places tend to be licensed by the local council who will check for things like fire regulations, sex should not be on offer but of course it will be.
I used to visit one in Kentish Town called Omega, you paid £10 on the door and negotiated with the girl once inside the room, it was normal to pay after the service, there was a "bouncer" on the premises.

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IF sex is on offer its a brothel so isnt legitimate with or without quotations.

[dandaley]

True, but if I accept a forged £50 note in the cab for a £10 fare it means that I have lost £40 of my own money.   

exactly what my point was before its a bigger loss if 50 note is fake, as they say its not 'Personal its Business' so not rude imo as they are not saying its you who are trying to con them with fake note you may have been given the fake note without realising it.

[adindas]

I dont get all this not accepting £50 notes business, as both £10 & £20 notes can be forged.
As for paying upfront i always do this but had 2 regulars that didnt ask or wait for me to pay them to get started, even after id hand her the cash she wouldnt count it and just put it away.

Also love seeing a women with money in her hands, just a fetish.

It it true but you are more likely to get £50 counterfeit bank note than £10.
A criminal will have more incentive to forge £50 than  £10 bank note for obvious reason. Same amount of work and risk but will get a better result if they forge £50 bank notes. 

[Type_O_Negative]

I prefer to pay up front. And like the others i think it makes better atmosphere 

However my regular WG doesn't ask for money at all. She knows it's in my pocket and she will get it. She knows what to expect from me and i know what to expect from her 

It's another good reason for having regular WG 

[Jimmyredcab]

It it true but you are more likely to get £50 counterfeit bank note than £10.
A criminal will have more incentive to forge £50 than  £10 bank note for obvious reason. Same amount of work and risk but will get a better result if they forge £50 bank notes.

I see your logic but forged £10 notes would be much easier to pass off, most people would look closely at a £50 note, some supermarket cashiers call a supervisor.   

[threechilliman]

I see your logic but forged £10 notes would be much easier to pass off, most people would look closely at a £50 note, some supermarket cashiers call a supervisor.   

Agree. No idea why anyone would forge £50's as you can't get rid of real one's. £10's & £20's could be used to pay for a punt....

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