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Author Topic: Paying Up Front? Or Perhaps Not......  (Read 4098 times)

Following on from the thread about building a rapport quickly with a girl, I got to thinking about payment and the fact that we seem to think this relaxes the girl. Etiquette suggests this should be done pretty much immediately once services have been confirmed. If not, the chances of a decent punt are reduced or the WG will mess around until you pay. And if you don't pay, there's a good chance of no punt at all.

But this isn't quite what I've experienced.....

Excluding a couple of parlour visits, in 17 punts, I've paid at the end four times. Once (my first) when I was so nervous I completely forgot about it until the end - and the WG produced a great performance - enough for her to be the only one I've returned to. Three others, when I asked, told me to pay at the end (we'd sort of got carried away so it would have interrupted the flow) and they also produced great punts.

At least four others hadn't opened the envelope (which could have been empty) by the time I left and they were decent enough punts as well. These were all first visits as well so wouldn't have had any trust built up as you might with a regular.

A couple of punts haven't been so memorable - having paid up front.....

Thinking about it, I paid at the end on my first parlour visit as well, house fee excepted.

Anybody else recognise this?

No chance of it happening, but perhaps WG's should present you with a menu on arrival and would allow her to let you know which items aren't available that day. Then you can either leave or you place your order and services are delivered to everyone's satisfaction. Then, with a click of your fingers, they fetch the bill which you can settle, either with used 20's or, and I'm being futuristic now, your punting credit card!

The only issue I see is that they'll want a tip as well...

tcm

Offline Daffodil

I usually pay my dues at the start, but on occasion, for whatever reason, it doesn't happen. These have often been my better punts. One of my best punts I was actually walking out of the door when she said, 'ahem?'. I'd completely forgotten (genuinely) and was a little embarrassed. Another and the girl just started kissing immediately, we got down to business, and I paid at the end.

I think girls who are relaxed and who may even enjoy the 'job' are less uptight about the money and these are girls who give a good service.

Offline dandaley

id imagine if they took money after as the norm they would be flooded with chancers and robbers getting it for nothing i understand why paying up front for sex is the way it is.

Offline SirFrank

I usually pay my dues at the start, but on occasion, for whatever reason, it doesn't happen. These have often been my better punts. One of my best punts I was actually walking out of the door when she said, 'ahem?'. I'd completely forgotten (genuinely) and was a little embarrassed. Another and the girl just started kissing immediately, we got down to business, and I paid at the end.

I think girls who are relaxed and who may even enjoy the 'job' are less uptight about the money and these are girls who give a good service.

+1. One particularly memorable punt this year was a pay at the end job because the gal was all over the minute I walked through the door. It certainly felt less like a business transaction.
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Offline Jimmyredcab

I usually pay my dues at the start.

Generally speaking we have little choice, can't say I blame the girls really, if I take someone on a £70 taxi ride I often ask for pre-payment ---------- especially late at night.

Offline Outcallguy

I find as i only do outcalls the girls who want money up front. Provide a bad service. Presumably as they have thier cash.
The ones who are laid back and take the money at the end  they are the good ones.

Offline Jimmyredcab

I find as i only do outcalls the girls who want money up front. Provide a bad service. Presumably as they have thier cash.
The ones who are laid back and take the money at the end  they are the good ones.

So what do these girls do when the punter refuses to pay up at the end of the session, in this country it is quite normal to pay upfront ---------------- unless the girl has got to know you well.

Online James999

I find as i only do outcalls the girls who want money up front. Provide a bad service. Presumably as they have thier cash.
The ones who are laid back and take the money at the end  they are the good ones.

Sounds liks bullshit to me as it is the norm to pay the girl on arrival, if you're not doing this you are creating an awkward situation, and perhaps tha's why you're experiencing bad service  :hi:

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So what do these girls do when the punter refuses to pay up at the end of the session, in this country it is quite normal to pay upfront ---------------- unless the girl has got to know you well.

I used to not mind with regulars, if I've built up a rapport, but I had one who walked out without paying after I had been seeing him about twice a month for a year. I text him casually about it, asking him if he could pop the money through my letter box next time he was in town but never heard anything again.

It's a shame because of these small minority (he couldn't say it was because I'd lied to him about my services or specifics; he'd been seeing me for a year) that we feel we have to take it up front,  because it does seem mercenary...

Offline Jimmyredcab

Sounds liks bullshit to me as it is the norm to pay the girl on arrival.

Most girls would insist on being paid first, not a problem unless she wants to take the money out to her driver Sergei. 

Offline tesla

I usually pay my dues at the start, but on occasion, for whatever reason, it doesn't happen. These have often been my better punts. One of my best punts I was actually walking out of the door when she said, 'ahem?'. I'd completely forgotten (genuinely) and was a little embarrassed. Another and the girl just started kissing immediately, we got down to business, and I paid at the end.

I think girls who are relaxed and who may even enjoy the 'job' are less uptight about the money and these are girls who give a good service.

I tend to agree with the above, I have never not paid but had a few escorts forget to ask me for the money, In which case I always pass the envelope as I am about to leave.

Offline yorkshire123

So what do these girls do when the punter refuses to pay up at the end of the session, in this country it is quite normal to pay upfront ---------------- unless the girl has got to know you well.

I'm with Jimmy on this one shocking as it may be, but even a broken clock is right twice a day  :P

With a newbie payment is always upfront, regulars seem to be happy for it afterwards but i always insist that they count it as i would hate to mistakenly short change them.
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Offline smiths

Following on from the thread about building a rapport quickly with a girl, I got to thinking about payment and the fact that we seem to think this relaxes the girl. Etiquette suggests this should be done pretty much immediately once services have been confirmed. If not, the chances of a decent punt are reduced or the WG will mess around until you pay. And if you don't pay, there's a good chance of no punt at all.

But this isn't quite what I've experienced.....

Excluding a couple of parlour visits, in 17 punts, I've paid at the end four times. Once (my first) when I was so nervous I completely forgot about it until the end - and the WG produced a great performance - enough for her to be the only one I've returned to. Three others, when I asked, told me to pay at the end (we'd sort of got carried away so it would have interrupted the flow) and they also produced great punts.

At least four others hadn't opened the envelope (which could have been empty) by the time I left and they were decent enough punts as well. These were all first visits as well so wouldn't have had any trust built up as you might with a regular.

A couple of punts haven't been so memorable - having paid up front.....

Thinking about it, I paid at the end on my first parlour visit as well, house fee excepted.

Anybody else recognise this?

No chance of it happening, but perhaps WG's should present you with a menu on arrival and would allow her to let you know which items aren't available that day. Then you can either leave or you place your order and services are delivered to everyone's satisfaction. Then, with a click of your fingers, they fetch the bill which you can settle, either with used 20's or, and I'm being futuristic now, your punting credit card!

The only issue I see is that they'll want a tip as well...

tcm

Most newbie WGs to me have wanted my cash beforehand. EE WGs in particular are usually VERY keen to get the money safely stashed away. Been this way for all my over 30 years of punting generally, cant see it changing anytime soon.

Many regulars over the years havent asked for the money beforehand but i have given it to them anyway.

Offline CBPaul

Only once have I ever paid at the end. Otherwise it's always been at the start, some girls almost have their hand out waiting for the cash, others have given a kiss and a cuddle but then asked for the money.

I guess it protects against the risk of non payment after the punt, sometimes they disappear off to stash the cash and contact someone to let them know they have a punter / the punter seems OK.

It only becomes an issue to me if it turns into a punt where I want a refund, then the prossie has the upper hand. The idea of a seamless, discrete transaction, sealed envelope and all that, doesn't make an awful lot of sense to me. The 'getting the paperwork out of the way' approach is a bit too GFE fantasy to my mind, I'm paying a prossie for sex after all.


Offline smiths

Only once have I ever paid at the end. Otherwise it's always been at the start, some girls almost have their hand out waiting for the cash, others have given a kiss and a cuddle but then asked for the money.

I guess it protects against the risk of non payment after the punt, sometimes they disappear off to stash the cash and contact someone to let them know they have a punter / the punter seems OK.

It only becomes an issue to me if it turns into a punt where I want a refund, then the prossie has the upper hand. The idea of a seamless, discrete transaction, sealed envelope and all that, doesn't make an awful lot of sense to me. The 'getting the paperwork out of the way' approach is a bit too GFE fantasy to my mind, I'm paying a prossie for sex after all.

Personally i see no point in using an envelope as i always count the money out in front of WGs to ensure there are no "misunderstandings". Why on earth would i need an envelope, popular with some punters though as i know from when its been discussed before on punting forums.

Offline akauya

It happens rarely but some girls do ask for the money after the meeting. The last I remember did this with me was Busty Angel, when I was getting the money out she said to pay her later. After the meeting when I gave it to her she didn't even count it. She told me to leave it on her dresser. I was very surprised because that was the first time I saw her.

Sometimes I was pleasantly surprised when some girls even gave me money back because in my haste I gave them too much - yes I know I should get the right amount before I go in but sometimes shit happens and you forget.


Offline pokenn

I've always given the girl the money up front. A few haven't bother to count it, but none ever told me to pay at the end.

I prefer to pay up front - helps to establish trust which makes for a good punt.

Offline akauya

Personally i see no point in using an envelope as i always count the money out in front of WGs to ensure there are no "misunderstandings". Why on earth would i need an envelope, popular with some punters though as i know from when its been discussed before on punting forums.

You posted this just before me. Yes after giving some prossies too much money I make an issue to count it in front of them now.

I find as i only do outcalls the girls who want money up front. Provide a bad service. Presumably as they have thier cash.
The ones who are laid back and take the money at the end  they are the good ones.

What a load of guff.


Offline CBPaul


Sometimes I was pleasantly surprised when some girls even gave me money back because in my haste I gave them too much - yes I know I should get the right amount before I go in but sometimes shit happens and you forget.

I did that once and she gave the excess back, felt a complete wally who wouldn't count to 100 in 20's. I do exactly the same thing now, count the money in front if them.

Offline taz973

I have never paid at the end, maybe I look dodgy but even the girl I see every month always takes money at the beginning I once didn't hand the money over as I arrived and she asked me for it before she would start.  Personally I doubt it has much impact on the level of service they provide and as mentioned by other posters paying at the end could lead to all sorts of issues.

Offline G-style

With a girl I have seen often there was an occasion where we got in to it right from the front door and I only remembered to pay her as I was about to leave. She then told me of the time she was working with her friend on a duo and each had thought the guy had paid the other girl and they only worked it out about an hour after he had left. The dirty rotten cheating lucky bastard.   :hi:

I should be clear, my intention is always to pay on arrival as per the advice given out on here.

Some girls make it difficult though as it's them that have got stuck into me before I've even got my coat off. One had me pinned to the bed before I had chance to get my hand in my pocket. And I ain't God's gift by any stretch......

tcm

For all the times I had seen girls at a massage parlour, the money was always paid at the end, and in those days, you got value for your money

Escort at massage parlour, entrance fee for 1 hr, £15; service from the escort, sex, oral, massage, kissing all for £60, so in total £75 for 1 hr with the girl

Now a days, if your looking for the same fun, that may cost you between £120-£150



One had me pinned to the bed before I had chance to get my hand in my pocket.

There an escort in Glasgow, who is exactly like that, the minute your in the bedroom, she basically pounces on you


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