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Offline Lou2019

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Based on personal experience SL   :(

You can’t tar everyone with the same brush though

Offline usroads

You can’t tar everyone with the same brush though
You're most likely right Lou.
I've been a punter for more than 20 years or so and I had a bout of EAS early on. Since then I've focused on the realism of how things are in the sex industry which led me to say EAS with a working girl is simply ludicrous.
Over the years I've helped out 4-5 working girls who I knew were struggling to make ends meet for one reason or another. We're talking £000's here - not for any EAS reason - but because they needed help at a certain time in their lives. I'm still friends with them and we occasionally meet up as fuck buddies.

Offline Lou2019

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Over the years I've helped out 4-5 working girls who I knew were struggling to make ends meet for one reason or another. We're talking £000's here - not for any EAS reason - but because they needed help at a certain time in their lives.

If anything is ludicrous that is  :unknown: but hey that’s just my opinion. Would you have helped out your plumber? electrician? barber? for example in the same way ? No need to reply let’s draw a line under this discussion
« Last Edit: March 19, 2022, 10:58:52 pm by Lou2019 »

Offline Doc Holliday

If anything is ludicrous that is  :unknown:

It is indeed. If you believe prostitutes are all 'natural born liars' and therefore poor relationship material, why would you enter into a financial one with them as you have described. If it was a loan you wouldn't get it back. If it was a gift, then presumably you would have believed that they were in genuine difficulty and were not lying?

If the payback was you has sex with them, then they are not fuck buddies as money  is involved.  :unknown:

Offline lillythesavage

You're most likely right Lou.
I've been a punter for more than 20 years or so and I had a bout of EAS early on. Since then I've focused on the realism of how things are in the sex industry which led me to say EAS with a working girl is simply ludicrous.
Over the years I've helped out 4-5 working girls who I knew were struggling to make ends meet for one reason or another. We're talking £000's here - not for any EAS reason - but because they needed help at a certain time in their lives. I'm still friends with them and we occasionally meet up as fuck buddies.

So what do you call that, financial entanglement :lol:, it was your emotional entanglement that led to the financial or it would not happen.

Things are not black and white, as your one liners suggest, and now when challenged you contradict yourself with your own stories  :lol:

Offline Doc Holliday


An update; I went back to see her last night. After reading my post you’d probably think the idea of me being in her flat hearing her getting fucked is my idea of hell. You’d be right and that’s what happened. The maid stuck me in the waiting room, I could hear her getting pounded by some old dude, grunting whilst she moaned and squirmed. I had to leave, I couldn’t listen to it, came back when they were done - this time she was off with me, barely giving me anything, distracted by her phone etc. It was clearly all in my head so at least I can forget about her and move on. I think I need a break from punting, this experience was draining and probably best to take some time out and spend my money on something else for a while. As mentioned, I appreciate the concern/advise etc, it’s an old topic but one of the big drawbacks of punting that will always crop up.

I suggest you do not need a break from punting just this SP. I am shocked, though perhaps not surprised, that you went back to see her so soon after posting your predicament.

You appear to have been fortunate that her service on this occasion has given you a reality check as to any idea you are 'the special one' and there is reciprocation. I suspect you would returned yet again had that not happened? That said this introduces an extra emotion one of perceived rejection.

You are perhaps not out of the woods though with this girl as you have exhibited signs of infatuation and irrational sexual jealousy. She was your 10/10 perhaps one in a lifetime? That does not go away at the drop of the hat. Sexual jealousy is a complex subject but it is toxic and destructive. It can lead to stalking and in extreme cases, violence, homicide and suicide.

That sounds dramatic but it can be reality if it escalates.

You should not deprive yourself of sexual activity with others and go into your shell. That is likely counterproductive. You must however detach yourself from her completely and that will not be easy :hi:

Offline lillythesavage

I suggest you do not need a break from punting just this SP. I am shocked, though perhaps not surprised, that you went back to see her so soon after posting your predicament.

You appear to have been fortunate that her service on this occasion has given you a reality check as to any idea you are 'the special one' and there is reciprocation. I suspect you would returned yet again had that not happened? That said this introduces an extra emotion one of perceived rejection.

You are perhaps not out of the woods though with this girl as you have exhibited signs of infatuation and irrational sexual jealousy. She was your 10/10 perhaps one in a lifetime? That does not go away at the drop of the hat. Sexual jealousy is a complex subject but it is toxic and destructive. It can lead to stalking and in extreme cases, violence, homicide and suicide.

That sounds dramatic but it can be reality if it escalates.

You should not deprive yourself of sexual activity with others and go into your shell. That is likely counterproductive. You must however detach yourself from her completely and that will not be easy :hi:

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Offline MrMatrix

I suggest you do not need a break from punting just this SP. I am shocked, though perhaps not surprised, that you went back to see her so soon after posting your predicament.

You appear to have been fortunate that her service on this occasion has given you a reality check as to any idea you are 'the special one' and there is reciprocation. I suspect you would returned yet again had that not happened? That said this introduces an extra emotion one of perceived rejection.

You are perhaps not out of the woods though with this girl as you have exhibited signs of infatuation and irrational sexual jealousy. She was your 10/10 perhaps one in a lifetime? That does not go away at the drop of the hat. Sexual jealousy is a complex subject but it is toxic and destructive. It can lead to stalking and in extreme cases, violence, homicide and suicide.

That sounds dramatic but it can be reality if it escalates.

You should not deprive yourself of sexual activity with others and go into your shell. That is likely counterproductive. You must however detach yourself from her completely and that will not be easy :hi:
Good advice  Doc. OP I think you need to reconsider matters in view of the above.
I too have been in your position many years ago. My SP who was a 10, just blew me away and she said she was looking for someone, I dropped my guard and literally fell for her. However it wasn't long before I realised she was trying to milk me. And I stopped seeing her. It took 2-3 years to get her out of my system. It wasnt easy either. Even now, every now and then she crosses my mind, but Im not going there. Learned my lesson and I will never allow this to happen ever again. The only thing they are interested in is your money so stop kidding yourself you have to move on as thats life. Best of luck OP. I suggest you take Docs advice and go and see another SP later today. :hi:

Online Colston36

Good advice  Doc. OP I think you need to reconsider matters in view of the above.
I too have been in your position many years ago. My SP who was a 10, just blew me away and she said she was looking for someone, I dropped my guard and literally fell for her. However it wasn't long before I realised she was trying to milk me. And I stopped seeing her. It took 2-3 years to get her out of my system. It wasnt easy either. Even now, every now and then she crosses my mind, but Im not going there. Learned my lesson and I will never allow this to happen ever again. The only thing they are interested in is your money so stop kidding yourself you have to move on as thats life. Best of luck OP. I suggest you take Docs advice and go and see another SP later today. :hi:

Few things are more complicated than sexual relationships. And money comes into just about everything we do. I helped out 6 escorts during the Covid period. I did so because I sympathized with their situations and because I liked them all, not merely because of sex. Some have done me favours since; some haven't. One took me out for a tremendous morning at a rather grand hotel.

Offline usroads

So Colston, I'm not alone in helping out working girls who I knew were struggling .

Offline Whiteknight

Ron, I’m sure you are aware this topic in its various guises, has been done to death and you must have read some of the threads?

I wouldn’t normally chip in any more. However, you yourself have used the terminology 'Mind Fuck' and from the content of your post and in particular the characteristics and level of detail of your thought processes, I would be quite concerned about where your head is on this. You have described elements of irrational infatuation, jealousy and overprotection.

There are hints of obsessive behaviour, such as contemplating the physical characteristics of the next punter and checking out reviews.

This is not healthy and you need to get a grip on this especially as, by your own admission, this is not the first time and you describe her as 'out of your league'.

Please don't take offence, I am posting this out of genuine concern for your wellbeing.  :hi:

There is an excellent warning post from Pythondan above mine.

 :thumbsup: :hi:

Offline MissWolf

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I suggest you do not need a break from punting just this SP. I am shocked, though perhaps not surprised, that you went back to see her so soon after posting your predicament.

You appear to have been fortunate that her service on this occasion has given you a reality check as to any idea you are 'the special one' and there is reciprocation. I suspect you would returned yet again had that not happened? That said this introduces an extra emotion one of perceived rejection.

You are perhaps not out of the woods though with this girl as you have exhibited signs of infatuation and irrational sexual jealousy. She was your 10/10 perhaps one in a lifetime? That does not go away at the drop of the hat. Sexual jealousy is a complex subject but it is toxic and destructive. It can lead to stalking and in extreme cases, violence, homicide and suicide.

That sounds dramatic but it can be reality if it escalates.

You should not deprive yourself of sexual activity with others and go into your shell. That is likely counterproductive. You must however detach yourself from her completely and that will not be easy :hi:

As always Doc a very wise post

I would add to this and say that this lady is clearly not completely independent as there is a maid etc, that may give out the impression she is vulnerable, personally I feel this has triggered the OP's protective instincts,  unconsciously most likely but its definitely there.

Not only was she his 10/10 somewhere deep within he felt she needed saving, he's probably not even aware of this emotions or has not acknowledged them yet, we all have them, men especially, they are felt to be less welcome in this modern age so are repressed somewhat,  but still there.

An unconscious bit of white Knight syndrome that will strengthen any attraction that was present.

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This is probably the fastest way you can empty your bank account and end up skint!

Offline Lou2019

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So Colston, I'm not alone in helping out working girls who I knew were struggling .

But what’s different is your attitude towards SW in your posts of late. I can’t recall ever reading Colston being derogatory towards SW, sorry Colston to pull you into this debate. He maybe a dirty fucker (I had to get that in) :lol: but doesn’t call us whores or liars.

« Last Edit: March 20, 2022, 01:12:28 pm by Lou2019 »

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It is indeed. If you believe prostitutes are all 'natural born liars' and therefore poor relationship material, why would you enter into a financial one with them as you have described. If it was a loan you wouldn't get it back. If it was a gift, then presumably you would have believed that they were in genuine difficulty and were not lying?

If the payback was you has sex with them, then they are not fuck buddies as money  is involved.  :unknown:

This 100% :thumbsup:

Offline dobob

Some years ago, I got a bit too close to a W/G. She was a very nice and intelligent person and we had lots of interests in common and got on really well. I probably saw her 15 or more times in a period of about 3 months, including a visit to a sex club followed by an overnighter. I think we both realised it was getting too personal. It ended soon after, when her friends who owned the house she was borrowing needed it themselves. She couldn't afford accommodation in London and moved back to the North West. The really sad thing was that she had moved to London to get away from an abusive and exploitative partner who rented her out as a submissive to his contacts. She said she was working not just for the money, but because she was glad to learn that there are men who pay for sex and aren't sadistic weirdos.  Sadly, her AW profile started to offer all the submissive stuff and her gallery began to fill up with shots of men in masks with whips making her submit to all sorts of nastiness, so I could only conclude she had got back under his thumb. Her AW account eventually disappeared, so I just hoped that she succeeded in getting away from this guy (while finding much worse outcomes easy to imagine).

Offline usroads

But what’s different is your attitude towards SW in your posts of late. I can’t recall ever reading Colston being derogatory towards SW, sorry Colston to pull you into this debate. He maybe a dirty fucker (I had to get that in) :lol: but doesn’t call us whores or liars.
The terms I used in my posts yesterday Lou, in response to the OP's difficult situation,  were indeed OTT and incitive - they were meant to be and are non of which I would normally use. The choice of words was to convey the total futility of EAS with this woman and the sooner he accepts that the sooner the mending process will start.

Offline usroads

Hey Lou - I thought we had drawn a line under this tangent at 10:50 last night  :)

Offline Doc Holliday


I would add to this and say that this lady is clearly not completely independent as there is a maid etc, that may give out the impression she is vulnerable, personally I feel this has triggered the OP's protective instincts,  unconsciously most likely but its definitely there.

Not only was she his 10/10 somewhere deep within he felt she needed saving, he's probably not even aware of this emotions or has not acknowledged them yet, we all have them, men especially, they are felt to be less welcome in this modern age so are repressed somewhat,  but still there.

An unconscious bit of white Knight syndrome that will strengthen any attraction that was present.

You are correct. These dating/relationship with a WG/EAS threads inevitably cover a broad spectrum with some overlaps, but in Ron's case it is clear he is exhibiting 'overprotective' behavior. He feels disgust that someone who he sees as perfect is being defiled by men who don't meet his standard of acceptable, although ideally he would probably prefer for her to not be seeing anyone.

Many years ago I posted about this in a similar forum discussion. One of my usual long monolgues.  :D
Another wise, experienced member replied ".. forget the analytical psychobabble .. this is 'Uncle' behaviour."

And they were accurate with this simple comparison. It is common and I have seen it many times as no doubt you have also? It is where the punter develops an attachment, but still has a strong enough grip on reality to realise this cannot develop as 'a couple', so goes down the caring Uncle route instead. There is normally a considerable age difference between the pair, though not always. In most cases it is low grade and fairly harmless, but, especially if the SP does not actively discourage this type of relationship, it can escalate.

In one extreme case a punter began messaging guys who had posted reports or comments about an SP who he felt he was looking after. The messages were along the lines of "I hope you treated her well she is special to me" through to "I read your report and you were rough with her and I don't want you seeing her again."

He would never have harmed the SP (other than indirectly her reputation) as he 'loved her' and wanted to protect her and hoped she would stop working. The real danger was to himself and it didn't ultimatley end well.

As I said previously sexual jealousy is present in the mindset of the majority of people, men and women. Of itself it will not significantly affect most relationships and can be beneficial. Once it escalates though it can be hugely destructive.

There is no place for it in prostitution, unless associated with an actual 'real' relationship involving an SP. In that case it can pose a whole different set of challenges.

Offline OakTree

Time and time again you see these sorts of threads and by and large and more often than not it seems that this isn't their first rodeo when it comes to falling for a WG.

I do wonder if some people punt with subconscious or maybe conscious yearnings to become emotionally involved with a WG.

The mere fact I have to hand a wedge of cash over to a woman to convince her to have sex with me precludes any ideas this may go further than just a fuck. The day one of them turns around and says to me put your money away Oaky, this one's on me will be the day when the devil is skating to work. I think I'd about turn anyway. I certainly don't need a relationship with all the complications a WG brings. ie fucking other blokes day in day out. Not for me thanks.

I see the OP has now had an awakening experience with the WG he had such feelings for. All that emotion and quandary over her and she was nothing but indifferent.

I hope this brings some closure to the OP.

Online Colston36

But what’s different is your attitude towards SW in your posts of late. I can’t recall ever reading Colston being derogatory towards SW, sorry Colston to pull you into this debate. He maybe a dirty fucker (I had to get that in) :lol: but doesn’t call us whores or liars.

What? "He maybe a dirty fucker" ...?   Flattery will get you everywhere.

Offline Ron89

Unfortunately, I got drunk with a friend this afternoon and thought it’d be a good idea to see her again. Upon entry we were bantering and all was good until I saw a notepad on her desk. It was dates and jobs, listing exactly how many punters she saw per day and for how long. I picked it up and started reading it whilst she stashed the cash, she came in and was horrified that I was reading it, swearing in Spanish and chasing me around the room as I took in what the pad had written on it. 5 men on Friday, 8 yesterday, and 4 today. I looked at her in disgust, shaking my head and she could clearly see how much it bothered me. At this point I should have left but ended up staying for my booking, having rough sex with her, not a word spoken and treating her like the whore she is. It was fully consensual but I could tell that the switch in my energy from seeing the notepad visibly upset her. Sobering up, I regret the whole thing and safe to say I won’t be returning. 
« Last Edit: March 20, 2022, 06:00:02 pm by Ron89 »

Offline The0neAnd0nly

Unfortunately, I got drunk with a friend this afternoon and thought it’d be a good idea to see her again. Upon entry we were bantering and all was good until I saw a notepad on her desk. It was dates and jobs, listing exactly how many punters she saw per day and for how long. I picked it up and started reading it whilst she stashed the cash, she came in and was horrified that I was reading it, swearing in Spanish and chasing me around the room as I took in what the pad had written on it. 5 men on Friday, 8 yesterday, and 4 today. I looked at her in disgust, shaking my head and she could clearly see how much it bothered me. At this point I should have left but ended up staying for my booking, having rough sex with her, not a word spoken and treating her like the whore she is. It was fully consensual but I could tell that the switch in my energy from seeing the notepad visibly upset her. Sobering up, I regret the whole thing and safe to say I won’t be returning.


Sort yoursen out mate sounds like you're on a slippery slope.

Offline usroads

She's well forgotten now Ron - you've seen her for the whoring slut she really is. Keep those words in the forefront of your mind incase you're ever thinking of a relapse


Offline MysteryManNo.7

Time and time again you see these sorts of threads and by and large and more often than not it seems that this isn't their first rodeo when it comes to falling for a WG.

I do wonder if some people punt with subconscious or maybe conscious yearnings to become emotionally involved with a WG.

The mere fact I have to hand a wedge of cash over to a woman to convince her to have sex with me precludes any ideas this may go further than just a fuck. The day one of them turns around and says to me put your money away Oaky, this one's on me will be the day when the devil is skating to work. I think I'd about turn anyway. I certainly don't need a relationship with all the complications a WG brings. ie fucking other blokes day in day out. Not for me thanks.

I see the OP has now had an awakening experience with the WG he had such feelings for. All that emotion and quandary over her and she was nothing but indifferent.

I hope this brings some closure to the OP.

I concur with the above highlighted section. As I've mentioned before, I don't suffer from EAS I believe as I've actually dated a WG before and it's not easy. I often hear the term; 'you're not paying them to shag you, you're paying them to not follow you home afterwards' and I find, as you say, the fact I am paying her to be a sufficient barrier to avoid EAS.

Recently I've actually had two separate escorts I've seen a couple of times each both offer to see me for a significant discount on their usual price and despite liking both of them a lot and chatting with them frequently outside of bookings I'm under no illusion that what takes place between us is purely a business transaction and though they may indeed like me compared to other clients, that is all it is and all it will remain.

Than being said I can understand the situation the OP is in and things can get messy when feelings are involved as I have personally experienced. It's only natural that on a long enough timeline of punting feelings will be caught and I'm fortunate that I got that out of the way very early on in my punting career and have learned my lesson.

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Sort yoursen out mate sounds like you're on a slippery slope.

My thoughts as well. Not sure what else to say other than OP's situation is getting rather worrying.

Offline Ron89

Can a mod close this thread please, change my mind about wanting to read judgment any further

Offline Doc Holliday

Unfortunately, I got drunk with a friend this afternoon and thought it’d be a good idea to see her again. Upon entry we were bantering and all was good until I saw a notepad on her desk. It was dates and jobs, listing exactly how many punters she saw per day and for how long. I picked it up and started reading it whilst she stashed the cash, she came in and was horrified that I was reading it, swearing in Spanish and chasing me around the room as I took in what the pad had written on it. 5 men on Friday, 8 yesterday, and 4 today. I looked at her in disgust, shaking my head and she could clearly see how much it bothered me. At this point I should have left but ended up staying for my booking, having rough sex with her, not a word spoken and treating her like the whore she is. It was fully consensual but I could tell that the switch in my energy from seeing the notepad visibly upset her. Sobering up, I regret the whole thing and safe to say I won’t be returning.

Wow! You have real issues. You appear to have entered the stalking phase? You are obsessed with her sexual history. which disgusts you. Slippery slope fella.

Offline Doc Holliday

She's well forgotten now Ron - you've seen her for the whoring slut she really is. Keep those words in the forefront of your mind in case you're ever thinking of a relapse

Idiot.

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Offline MysteryManNo.7

Can a mod close this thread please, change my mind about wanting to read judgment any further

Fact is you've crossed the line. As has been pointed out and as I thought before it was pointed out you've slipped into stalker territory. This is very worrying to say the least.

Offline lillythesavage

She's well forgotten now Ron - you've seen her for the whoring slut she really is. Keep those words in the forefront of your mind incase you're ever thinking of a relapse

Do not learn from your mistakes do you, but you need to apologize for them  :lol:

Offline big-al93

Given what I've read, I'm surprised she didn't kick you out. The fact that she didn't makes me think she is most likely being controlled in some way as was mentioned earlier.

Offline Payyourwaymate

Can a mod close this thread please, change my mind about wanting to read judgment any further

Unfortunately the thread can't be deleted. I hope you're ok though. Stay strong man.

Offline Payyourwaymate

She's well forgotten now Ron - you've seen her for the whoring slut she really is. Keep those words in the forefront of your mind incase you're ever thinking of a relapse

It's the womans job for crying out loud lol. If she was going around fucking all those men for free and lying that he was the only one then I would agree with you  :lol:.

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Offline Payyourwaymate

Guys please give Ron a break. It takes a lot of courage to be transparent as he has been. His posts can help any others going through the same thing as him.

Ron don't worry you'll bounce back from this.

Offline Atrueyorkie

Unfortunately the thread can't be deleted. I hope you're ok though. Stay strong man.

+1 bro

A lot of the replies are unfiltered and some would say harsh love. It’s a public forum and it’s the internet, you’re gonna have people judge you both sides, good and bad. good advice and personal stories given so it’s not a rare thing. We’re punters but both WG’s and punters are human.

I for one enjoy your reviews and being too “open” can draw in criticism, which is why you have to keep a certain amount of information private.

If I disclosed absolutely everything I’ve done the world would look at me with disgust  :lol:

Chin up son, best way is to move on, find a potential better looking one because as you clearly found out your not the only and will never be the only one pounding those cheeks.

Offline tp69

She's well forgotten now Ron - you've seen her for the whoring slut she really is. Keep those words in the forefront of your mind incase you're ever thinking of a relapse

Honestly? Can you not take an extra few seconds to compose a sentence that isn't indiscriminately offensive to other women in this thread? Blanket statements about people you have zero background knowledge about, such as calling them liars, is narrow-minded and nasty. And not remotely helpful to Ron.


@Ron - Hope you're okay mate. Give yourself some time and distance. Best wishes.

Offline JontyR

Sobering up, I regret the whole thing and safe to say I won’t be returning.

Ron, I actually hope you don't read this for a while. But it may be a good idea to stay sober for a good while. Both from the booze and from the punting scene.

It may be worth looking if you can speak to someone. A lot of employers have an assistance programme that allows for access to a counsellor....this will be independent from work and won't be reported back. Some unions have access to this as well. If not the NHS or even just the samaritans may provide you with the opportunity to speak honestly and without judgement. This I reckon is the first stage with realigning your thoughts and feelings into something that is less potentially destructive.   

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Offline mills_and_bhuna

She's well forgotten now Ron - you've seen her for the whoring slut she really is. Keep those words in the forefront of your mind incase you're ever thinking of a relapse
I was going to offer you a shovel but I can see you've already got a rather large one :dash:

Offline Offtoasda

Unfortunately, I got drunk with a friend this afternoon and thought it’d be a good idea to see her again. Upon entry we were bantering and all was good until I saw a notepad on her desk. It was dates and jobs, listing exactly how many punters she saw per day and for how long. I picked it up and started reading it whilst she stashed the cash, she came in and was horrified that I was reading it, swearing in Spanish and chasing me around the room as I took in what the pad had written on it. 5 men on Friday, 8 yesterday, and 4 today. I looked at her in disgust, shaking my head and she could clearly see how much it bothered me. At this point I should have left but ended up staying for my booking, having rough sex with her, not a word spoken and treating her like the whore she is. It was fully consensual but I could tell that the switch in my energy from seeing the notepad visibly upset her. Sobering up, I regret the whole thing and safe to say I won’t be returning.

You were completely in the wrong.  I think a break would be best.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2022, 05:59:57 pm by Offtoasda »

Offline pantywetter


Sort yoursen out mate sounds like you're on a slippery slope.

A very slippery slope.  That post and situation was messed up. 

Back away with urgency!
« Last Edit: March 22, 2022, 01:00:27 pm by pantywetter »

Offline Marmalade

Time to get real. Think “prostitute”. Not WG. Not service provider. And definitely not “lady”.

Then ask yourself “How do you feel about dating a PROSTITUTE?

If you wouldn’t date her, you can’t fall in love with her. You can only become INFATUATED.

“Seeing a prostitute” is not “dating”.

If you really think you are “dating” then go out with one night on the town and see (or make sure) how many rounds she buys. If she’s actually keen, she will try to spend more than you. Take her to an expensive cocktail bar. See how people look at her. Are they thinking she looks like a prostitute? Engage her in intellectual conversation about some news item. Can she hold her own in company? Does she independently introduce an interesting topic of conversation about her hobbies and interests? Imagine introducing her to your friends, your family, your mother. Then do that.

If she can pass all those tests and not have anyone think she’s a prostitute, then we’ll take you seriously.  ;)

Offline TheMagnet

Hi Ron, I know this topic has been covered in many other threads in the past but you describe what is going on in your head so vividly, so thanks for sharing. I'm sure sharing it with everyone here and reading everyone's comments and advice has helped you a lot.

In all my years of on and off punting I would say I've had EAS twice.  The first time wasn't a big deal and didn't last long.  The second I saw the girl multiple times in the first 3 months of meeting and I considered it a waste of money seeing anyone else because she was that appealing to me.

Two things helped me see sense.  Firstly my depleted bank account.  Secondly I asked myself the question as to what was my end game with her? Was I going to try and persuade her to leave her highly paid escort job to be with me? Of course not, wasn't going to happen.  You can't pay bills with love!

Was I going to try and be that guy who dates an escort and has feelings for her in full knowledge that she most likely sleeps with thousands of men per year? Again ultimately no.

I think the best advice I can give is treat this like a break up.  Spend quality time with family and friends, enjoy life and non-punting hobbies and just keep busy.  Perhaps even working on self improvement like maybe going to the gym etc.   If you feel this may be an issue going forward it's always worth noting what the early signs of it happening are so you can stop it early.

Don't go and see her again, it's obvious that the cons out weigh the pros at the moment!

Online Colston36

Time to get real. Think “prostitute”. Not WG. Not service provider. And definitely not “lady”.

Then ask yourself “How do you feel about dating a PROSTITUTE?

If you wouldn’t date her, you can’t fall in love with her. You can only become INFATUATED.

“Seeing a prostitute” is not “dating”.

If you really think you are “dating” then go out with one night on the town and see (or make sure) how many rounds she buys. If she’s actually keen, she will try to spend more than you. Take her to an expensive cocktail bar. See how people look at her. Are they thinking she looks like a prostitute? Engage her in intellectual conversation about some news item. Can she hold her own in company? Does she independently introduce an interesting topic of conversation about her hobbies and interests? Imagine introducing her to your friends, your family, your mother. Then do that.

If she can pass all those tests and not have anyone think she’s a prostitute, then we’ll take you seriously.  ;)

Do all the women you date buy as many rounds as you? What a cheapskate.  I expect  to pay for the meal, the drinks, the lot if I take a woman out.

Offline tp69

Time to get real. Think “prostitute”. Not WG. Not service provider. And definitely not “lady”.

Then ask yourself “How do you feel about dating a PROSTITUTE?

If you wouldn’t date her, you can’t fall in love with her. You can only become INFATUATED.

“Seeing a prostitute” is not “dating”.

If you really think you are “dating” then go out with one night on the town and see (or make sure) how many rounds she buys. If she’s actually keen, she will try to spend more than you. Take her to an expensive cocktail bar. See how people look at her. Are they thinking she looks like a prostitute? Engage her in intellectual conversation about some news item. Can she hold her own in company? Does she independently introduce an interesting topic of conversation about her hobbies and interests? Imagine introducing her to your friends, your family, your mother. Then do that.

If she can pass all those tests and not have anyone think she’s a prostitute, then we’ll take you seriously.  ;)

Surely the issue to overcome in dating a WG is that you have to share her physically with others, and however that manifests in terms of disinterest in being physical with you through sheer exhaustion.

Buying drinks is hardly a test - she’d be as likely to do so as any other woman on similar means. Similarly, assuming she has no hobbies or interests outside of her job is pretty unfair - WG’s are also human beings. Their choice of career already presents a number of issues for them to have to deal with in terms of how their friends and family may treat them, but you can hardly make a judgement over their intellect or how interesting they are on that basis.

Offline Marmalade

Do all the women you date buy as many rounds as you? What a cheapskate.  I expect  to pay for the meal, the drinks, the lot if I take a woman out. 

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oooo you Sad sucker. How about respecting women as equals, Mr Victorian Age??

Yep, they do.
And I guess that makes your women cheapskates:cool:
You basically treat them like whores.  :dancegirl: