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Offline Natwest

That's because these fanboy fluffies are still in the early stages of their punting career where they are in cloud9 and splash a lot of their cash. The more experienced punters who you regard as "hardliners" have already been through that newbie phase and are now more experienced, pick their punts more carefully and are less gullible to bullshit than the fanboy fluffies.

As a newbie and expecting therefore to get ripped to shreds, some experienced punters have replied to this thread and said "well actually we had a negative experience with MM but kept quiet at the time". Wouldn't it have been more useful if they had put a review up rather than keeping quiet?

And if the newbie "fanboy fluffies" tend to post most of the reviews, if they stop, then there are less reviews and let's face it, the number of reviews as a ratio to the number of UKP members who visit WG's appears to be very small.

OK - I'm braced........................... 


Seems MM should learn something from the whole thread.

1. Better communications leading up to a punt and during a punt.
Previous comms with poor directions could fuck things up before you start. If you're feeling crap, say so and cancel punt. Offer a discount on the next one as goodwill.

2. Don't dig a hole with a lie on UKP.
Other prossies have tried and dismally failed, none have succeeded.

3. Never forget those all important customer service skills.
https://www.helpscout.net/blog/customer-service-skills/

No.15 is most relevant at this time.

4. Avoid "doing a Ratner"

Gerald Ratner wiped £500 million from the value of Ratners jewellers with one speech in 1991.

He said: "We also do cut-glass sherry decanters complete with six glasses on a silver-plated tray that your butler can serve you drinks on, all for £4.95. People say, 'How can you sell this for such a low price?' I say, because it's total crap."

Just because you have 1000 good efforts, 1 bad effort, could cost you a fortune!!


As a newbie and expecting therefore to get ripped to shreds, some experienced punters have replied to this thread and said "well actually we had a negative experience with MM but kept quiet at the time". Wouldn't it have been more useful if they had put a review up rather than keeping quiet?

And if the newbie "fanboy fluffies" tend to post most of the reviews, if they stop, then there are less reviews and let's face it, the number of reviews as a ratio to the number of UKP members who visit WG's appears to be very small.

OK - I'm braced...........................

Fully agree

That's because these fanboy fluffies are still in the early stages of their punting career where they are in cloud9 and splash a lot of their cash. The more experienced punters who you regard as "hardliners" have already been through that newbie phase and are now more experienced, pick their punts more carefully and are less gullible to bullshit than the fanboy fluffies.

Not always true.  Hope conquers Reason 9 times out of 10 when the dick takes control, even for experienced punters.

Offline punk

Matty there are less than half a hand full left to fall from grace , ow well we can all bitch about
Having  to much ass hair , James will be redundant. Every cloud has a sliver lining  :drinks:

A problem to consider is the so called fan boy fluffies seem to do most of the reviews those days.
The hard liners tend to jump on reviews but not actually do any.

Best put my crash helmet on shit storm to follow.

 :D that was a good one with punters complaining about ass hair, on another thread. MM lost my interest as soon as i saw her post with that killer one line about not bothering to reply to OP (i.e if i say nothing the problem will disappear up its own arse), and than saying she left the money on the side table for the punter to take.


Offline punk

As a newbie and expecting therefore to get ripped to shreds, some experienced punters have replied to this thread and said "well actually we had a negative experience with MM but kept quiet at the time". Wouldn't it have been more useful if they had put a review up rather than keeping quiet?

And if the newbie "fanboy fluffies" tend to post most of the reviews, if they stop, then there are less reviews and let's face it, the number of reviews as a ratio to the number of UKP members who visit WG's appears to be very small.

OK - I'm braced...........................

the only problem i have is that most if not all punters coming out of the wood work have either 0 or 1 review but have keep quiet till now funny that.

As they say "Punting it's a funny old game"

Offline Natwest

the only problem i have is that most if not all punters coming out of the wood work have either 0 or 1 review but have keep quiet till now funny that.

As they say "Punting it's a funny old game"

Guilty as charged. But having so far done two punts, reported on one and added to a thread on the other, I've done my best. What I find strange is that us "fluffy newbies" do a review and then suddenly there are a flurry of acknowledgements from established members who have seen the WG but never reported on her as a review in UKP.

OK, I'm retreating now, put the weapon down............

Offline Admin

  • Site Owner
As a newbie and expecting therefore to get ripped to shreds, some experienced punters have replied to this thread and said "well actually we had a negative experience with MM but kept quiet at the time". Wouldn't it have been more useful if they had put a review up rather than keeping quiet?

And if the newbie "fanboy fluffies" tend to post most of the reviews, if they stop, then there are less reviews and let's face it, the number of reviews as a ratio to the number of UKP members who visit WG's appears to be very small.

OK - I'm braced...........................

Those who punted her and didn't have a good experience should have gone public at the start. Not come out now.

It's only Bangers & Mash who has had the balls.

Had they come out, maybe B&M wouldn't have wasted his money on her.

Offline smiths

Adam I respect your opinion and your forum , I think that you may be right however there may be
A third stage of punting the likes of JRC , SMITHS , NIK that I don,t consider hard liners
Just very experienced punters who's views on punting should be respected.

However I still feel there is some merit in the point I was trying to make , however as everyone
Knows my ability to express myself in words is not easy for me.

You allow open comment I hope you take my post in spirt they were meant as they were not directed
To you in anyway.

I appreciate your kind words TP. :thumbsup: For me TP the worrying thing about this thread was when someone bothered to look up B&Gs reviews and post they had had some previous bad punts. What the fuck has that got to do with it, B&G posted his opinion of the punt and that should be respected seeing as he is a credible punter, to me anyway. Irrespective of the WG being reviewed. Obviously if a punter or punters think a punter isnt credible then they can challenge them. In this case MM hasnt disputed the punt occured, merely saying she had trouble understanding him, well i have punted with loads of WGs who couldnt speak much English and had good punts.

 It works both ways, punters can post positive or negative reviews as they see fit and just because some have had good punts with a specific WG it doesnt mean everyone will. Thats punting. I dont doubt those punters i see as credible that have done positive reviews on MM just as i dont doubt B&G.

 What must NOT happen as i see it is punters too worried about what others will think and/or post to do a truthful review on any WG be them a forum darling like MM or not. Let punters make their own minds up going on ALL the information they can find on a particular WG. White Knighting can seriously damage a punting forum as i have seen elsewhere, i dont want to see it happen here but know admin are really on the ball on this. :thumbsup:

Offline punk

Guilty as charged. But having so far done two punts, reported on one and added to a thread on the other, I've done my best. What I find strange is that us "fluffy newbies" do a review and then suddenly there are a flurry of acknowledgements from established members who have seen the WG but never reported on her as a review in UKP.

OK, I'm retreating now, put the weapon down............

thats because 10% of punts get written on here for many reasons.Though i think if a punt is shit or neutral its important to write up so others can avoid and hopefully the prossie can find another job.

Offline Tailpipe

:D that was a good one with punters complaining about ass hair, on another thread. MM lost my interest as soon as i saw her post with that killer one line about not bothering to reply to OP (i.e if i say nothing the problem will disappear up its own arse), and than saying she left the money on the side table for the punter to take.

I have not read that thread and even her biggest fans have said by pm her post in defence were shit and lame. And yes if any punter has a bad punt get it up here but my point was they don,t.
We need punting interactive members in my view.

Offline Natwest

thats because 10% of punts get written on here for many reasons.Though i think if a punt is shit or neutral its important to write up so others can avoid and hopefully the prossie can find another job.

Absolutely agree.

It was interesting that the one review that I did, the WG messaged me through AW and thanked me for it. I am sure an increasing number of WG's follow everything on this site. Of course the implication is that had I wrote a shit review (which I had no reason to do) she could have put negative comments about me on AW which I could do without at the beginning of my punting career. In most cases outside of London, I would expect it is very easy for a WG to work out who has put the review on UKP.

Therefore it is possible that the more popular this site becomes, the more danger of "fluffy" reviews by punters not wishing to be marked down on AW.

Offline punk

I have not read that thread and even her biggest fans have said by pm her post in defence were shit and lame. And yes if any punter has a bad punt get it up here but my point was they don,t.
We need punting interactive members in my view.

true, but i got fed up with all these punters and trolls turning up and saying that they all had crap punts with her, but his only happen when B&G had written a negative review, one out of how many?

Offline smiths

Absolutely agree.

It was interesting that the one review that I did, the WG messaged me through AW and thanked me for it. I am sure an increasing number of WG's follow everything on this site. Of course the implication is that had I wrote a shit review (which I had no reason to do) she could have put negative comments about me on AW which I could do without at the beginning of my punting career. In most cases outside of London, I would expect it is very easy for a WG to work out who has put the review on UKP.

Therefore it is possible that the more popular this site becomes, the more danger of "fluffy" reviews by punters not wishing to be marked down on AW.

Indeed, which is why some of us advise not booking through A/W if possible. Far harder for a WG to work out who the punter was if he changes the date and time of the punt as well. And even if she does work it out all she will have is a mobile number and the punters description, if as advised the former is a punting phone/sim its easily changed if necessary.

Offline punk

Absolutely agree.

It was interesting that the one review that I did, the WG messaged me through AW and thanked me for it. I am sure an increasing number of WG's follow everything on this site. Of course the implication is that had I wrote a shit review (which I had no reason to do) she could have put negative comments about me on AW which I could do without at the beginning of my punting career. In most cases outside of London, I would expect it is very easy for a WG to work out who has put the review on UKP.

Therefore it is possible that the more popular this site becomes, the more danger of "fluffy" reviews by punters not wishing to be marked down on AW.

the smart ones mange to work out even when based in london

Offline Tailpipe

Smiths

Your view is understood and clear , but it would be a great shame if the forum bends
Towards a place where punters just post to vent there feelings and slag off WGs
Just because they can.

You told me day one read the reviews of the punters that are respected and proven
In your own mind and that has worked for me and sound advice.

But there are good punters and bad punters , and many bad WGs.

Btw I am not saying B&G is a bad punter let me make clear.

Steve once posted in a comment to JRC over a bad review on trusted WG
Think it went something like , the guy sounds like a wanker and his approach
To the girl would have got her back up.

Steve and you have both made the point that as punters attitude before and during
The punt is important as is some level of respect .
As if she has I little extra to give you will get it reflected in the service.

Offline Tailpipe

true, but i got fed up with all these punters and trolls turning up and saying that they all had crap punts with her, but his only happen when B&G had written a negative review, one out of how many?

I agree , but you have to question if they did have a bad punt or just winding up the thread .

Offline Admin

  • Site Owner
Btw I am not saying B&G is a bad punter let me make clear.

This comment is pretty laughable given the whole point of your post is infer exactly that on him and others who had a bad experience.

Offline punk

I agree , but you have to question if they did have a bad punt or just winding up the thread .

yes did they because i would have written a review and took the flak. There is a polish girl on here from bow that has had good review(s)/ comments that i saw a few years back before knowing about this site and my experience was the exact opposite, its the way it goes.

Offline James999

it would be a great shame if the forum bends Towards a place where punters just post to vent there feelings and slag off WGs
Just because they can.

There are far more positive reviews on here than negative, honest feedback is surpressed on most sites in one form or another, this site offers a fair balance.

Lets just cut to the real issue you have, you're just pissed that moon got a bad review and got banned  :music:

Offline smiths

Smiths

Your view is understood and clear , but it would be a great shame if the forum bends
Towards a place where punters just post to vent there feelings and slag off WGs
Just because they can.

You told me day one read the reviews of the punters that are respected and proven
In your own mind and that has worked for me and sound advice.

But there are good punters and bad punters , and many bad WGs.

Btw I am not saying B&G is a bad punter let me make clear.

Steve once posted in a comment to JRC over a bad review on trusted WG
Think it went something like , the guy sounds like a wanker and his approach
To the girl would have got her back up.

Steve and you have both made the point that as punters attitude before and during
The punt is important as is some level of respect .
As if she has I little extra to give you will get it reflected in the service.

In this case MM herself hardly did herself any favours in her reply, so left herself open for more criticism. I cant answer why some who hadnt previously posted they hadnt rated her posted following this review. IF it was because they were worried they would get stick off one or more of those that had done positive reviews on here thats not healthy. IMO just be honest and post what YOU experienced.

Offline Natwest

Smiths

Your view is understood and clear , but it would be a great shame if the forum bends
Towards a place where punters just post to vent there feelings and slag off WGs
Just because they can.

You told me day one read the reviews of the punters that are respected and proven
In your own mind and that has worked for me and sound advice.

But there are good punters and bad punters , and many bad WGs.

Btw I am not saying B&G is a bad punter let me make clear.

Steve once posted in a comment to JRC over a bad review on trusted WG
Think it went something like , the guy sounds like a wanker and his approach
To the girl would have got her back up.

Steve and you have both made the point that as punters attitude before and during
The punt is important as is some level of respect .
As if she has I little extra to give you will get it reflected in the service.

Hasn't this episode shown that it is quite difficult to "swim against the tide" in the way reviews are done on this site? People who contribute a lot to the life of UKP haven't felt brave enough to risk the wrath and post a negative on MM for whatever reason.

Doing a review can be time consuming and I haven't looked at the percentages but I expect most reviews are done early on in the punting career and then you just punt and don't post. Everybody has there own style and the factual ones are a sight more useful than the porn versions. However, whether it is from fluffy newbies or respected members, I think this episode shows that something needs to be done to increase the number of reviews and to feel less intimidated to put a neutral or negative on a well reported WG.

Offline Admin

  • Site Owner
Anyone who wants to post a negative review on a "popular prossie" but is afraid of the reaction from her fanboy fluffy brigade should PM me beforehand. I will then keep an eye on the review and ban everyone who attacks you and your review. Simple.

UKP - Where the punter comes FIRST. And fluffy fanboys who have their head up prossie ass and want to attack fellow punters come LAST.

Offline Natwest

Anyone who wants to post a negative review on a "popular prossie" but is afraid of the reaction from her fanboy fluffy brigade should PM me beforehand. I will then keep an eye on the review and ban everyone who attacks you and your review. Simple.

UKP - Where the punter comes FIRST. And fluffy fanboys who have their head up prossie ass and want to attack fellow punters come LAST.

I guess that fully addresses my point then!

Offline Daffodil

Yes, quite true.

Like I said, after all this I hope she, and other WGs, learn something from this laughably sorry episode, and realise that fronting up and saying sorry straight out is a million more times successful than trying to ham up some rubbish excuse.

Yes, spot on.

Most of us will accept a prossie/restaurant/whatever getting it wrong on occasion, it's how they react afterwards that matters.




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