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touch.and.go

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Two WGs have recently asked me if I would do rape role play with them. Isn't that a bit wierd? I enjoy forceful, hard sex if you know the girl and you know she likes it that way, but to me rape is going one step (several steps TBH) too far. Any thoughts?

sbk

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I think it has to be done with a partner you trust 100%. Definitely not a thing for one night stands or first time punts. It can be enjoyable but in order to make sure no lines are crossed, you must know the partner and build up to it as well as discuss any limit they might have.

Offline Daffodil

Can you name the prossies? If not, I believe you're just using it as a pretence to raise the subject... :hi:

Offline LanceVance

To me, as long the people involved are comfortable with it and make clear what they are (un)comfortable with, and there are set boundaries and safe words involved, it shouldn't be a problem. 

I can't imagine many people doing it though.

vorian

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Wouldn't be for me as I tend to be more sub in Roleplays, I guess it would depend on the context and the willingness of the girls involved,  if they suggested it and you know them extremely well then maybe with the right planning.

touch.and.go

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Can you name the prossies? If not, I believe you're just using it as a pretence to raise the subject... :hi:

I wont name the girls  - I'm not a bull-shitter Daff - i think my posting and review history should proove that - but I dont think their names are relevant to the discussion.

I have only raised the question on the site becasue it has happened twice recently - and i'm keen to try new experiences but need to give it some thought and maybe you guys had role play experiences that may help.  :unknown:

Offline smiths

Two WGs have recently asked me if I would do rape role play with them. Isn't that a bit wierd? I enjoy forceful, hard sex if you know the girl and you know she likes it that way, but to me rape is going one step (several steps TBH) too far. Any thoughts?

As long as its adults and consentual i dont see the problem. Different people get off in different ways.

I once met a complete mentalist WG who asked me to punch her in the face and kick her in the stomach, not something that appeals to me at all, i walked, that was a step too far for me.


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Roleplay between consenting adults, I don't see a problem :unknown: if it's not for you, just tell them.

Offline NIK

'Rape' like 'paedophile' is an emotive word which the enemies of this site will treat like a red rag to a bull. It should be discouraged.

James999

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Can you name the prossies? If not, I believe you're just using it as a pretence to raise the subject...

I agree, it's not the sort of thing a pro$$ie brings up in conversation, sounds more like your fantasy that you want to air  :crazy:

Offline CBPaul

I'm not so sure it should be encouraged.

If it is consensual, the boundaries are established and it is realised that it is only a role play scenario then no great problem. But there are always going to be those who take things too far. Prossies offering the service to punters isn't a great idea IMHO, if the prossie hasn't seen the punter previously then she's stupid. If it's openly offered Christ knows who is gong to come creeping out of the woodwork.  :thumbsdown:

Offline Dani

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I enjoy the rape play scenario as I posted on saafe last week however it is not something I would do with clients unless I knew them really well and trusted them 100% Which is quite rare and only have two clients I trust that much as hv seen them both every month for 5 years but the subject has not come up with them.
It's not even about the act as it is about letting go and feeling like you have no control  its being forced to give up that control. The feeling that it's ok to be submissive as it's not your fault. The play part however means that you do keep full control and have a safe word to ensure you are happy with everything
A big thread was on safe about age play and rape play came up (my fault) as it is the same thing. It is safe play between consenting adults

However to the OP if two separate prossies have asked you to do this I would perhaps wonder of they had mental health issues as it is not something you ask any old punter to do. The risks are too high for something going wrong and I would worry about anyone who asks this if they don't explicitly trust you especially considering we don't tell clients how their bookings should be it is up to the client to ask for that type of thing but 2 asking out of the blue is very strange and sounds like they have not considered their safety at all

Jim Panzee

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It's a darker side to sexuality and not one that I am comfortable with.

Toby

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Colour me cynical, but if someone has contacted you to offer this it seems more than a little suspicious. It just seems like a potential blackmail set up.

touch.and.go

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I enjoy the rape play scenario as I posted on saafe last week however it is not something I would do with clients unless I knew them really well and trusted them 100% Which is quite rare and only have two clients I trust that much as hv seen them both every month for 5 years but the subject has not come up with them.
It's not even about the act as it is about letting go and feeling like you have no control  its being forced to give up that control. The feeling that it's ok to be submissive as it's not your fault. The play part however means that you do keep full control and have a safe word to ensure you are happy with everything
A big thread was on safe about age play and rape play came up (my fault) as it is the same thing. It is safe play between consenting adults

However to the OP if two separate prossies have asked you to do this I would perhaps wonder of they had mental health issues as it is not something you ask any old punter to do. The risks are too high for something going wrong and I would worry about anyone who asks this if they don't explicitly trust you especially considering we don't tell clients how their bookings should be it is up to the client to ask for that type of thing but 2 asking out of the blue is very strange and sounds like they have not considered their safety at all

I know both girls pretty well - one really well - seen her probably 30 times. And that is essentially why I raised the question - it struck me as a little odd - and it must be something to do with giving up control in a lifestyle where normally the WG is always in control on the punt.

cockneybstrd

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However to the OP if two separate prossies have asked you to do this I would perhaps wonder of they had mental health issues as it is not something you ask any old punter to do.

Probably...(Though if your dealing with those on AW that could probably be half of them)


The only person I have ever come across that was into something like this was a Civvy Ex who certainly had mental health issues. Though she wanted me to kidnap her. She had got it out of one of those Nancy Friday books and was trying to show how liberal she was when it came to sex.


James999

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I know both girls pretty well - one really well - seen her probably 30 times.

Then you should have no problems recalling her name / link  :music:

fredpunter

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I've had a girl wanted to do this sort of thing. I had to get a balaclava of the internet as part of my costume .... role play is not really my cup of tea cos I find it hard to keep a straight face but she was a fantastic sp so worth humouring.

She did eventually reveal herself to be a but "highly strung" though.

Offline NIK

I'm still not happy with having this emotive word at the top of the board. Meat and drink  to those who would wish to discredit the site. However I will await Adam's judgement on this.

Offline cunnyhunt

I have seen a WG North of Bedford  for basic vanilla sex, I asked how adventurous she would be and if she would try other things (OWO or CIM for example), she said that her fantasy was a rape which she was looking to be reality,  For her it was the loss of control that she wanted to experience, she asked if I would like to be part of it but I declined.
She later told me she had found someone and experimented with it but the experience was not good, I made a presumption that it was a bad time but she said that she had found it boring as she was expecting a rush of emotions, but as it had been planned it just felt like a rough fuck.
She said she did not intend to repeat the experience.

Rape is Sex with violence and should not be tolerated, I cannot see how it could be roleplay.

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Rape is Sex with violence and should not be tolerated, I cannot see how it could be roleplay.

It is not always with violence but with the perceived threat of it.  Not every rape entails the woman being beaten and in some cases no violence at all is used as it is just the fear of it that freezes the victim or survivor as it is now politically correct to say.

The rape scenario is a fantasy with violence.  It is about being tied up and controlled, about being able to do what you want as the pretence is that anything you do is not a reflection on yourself but because you felt you had to so you can explore things you may not normally do without feeling guilt. 
It seems no one kicks up a fuss about a woman tying up a man and physically beating him or shoving large objects up his arse and leaving big welts on his back, legs, arse as she whips him or breaks his skin with a pinwheel just because it is fantasy yet when the roles are reversed and a woman wants to relinquish al control it becomes taboo and not to be talked about.  People need to remember it is role play as in not real.  Just pretend play and nothing sinister at all

Offline wristjob

I once met a complete mentalist WG who asked me to punch her in the face and kick her in the stomach, not something that appeals to me at all, i walked, that was a step too far for me.

I'm not 100% sure but I think being asked wouldn't stop you being prosecuted if it came to that - and certainly not if she denied asking you.

OP - I'd run a mile. this just seems like something that has loads of scope to go horribly wrong, especially as the girls seem a bit more unhinged than the norm.

vorian

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I'm not 100% sure but I think being asked wouldn't stop you being prosecuted if it came to that - and certainly not if she denied asking you.

OP - I'd run a mile. this just seems like something that has loads of scope to go horribly wrong, especially as the girls seem a bit more unhinged than the norm.

Even if you are given permission it is still an offence to injury another person.

Offline smiths

I'm not 100% sure but I think being asked wouldn't stop you being prosecuted if it came to that - and certainly not if she denied asking you.

OP - I'd run a mile. this just seems like something that has loads of scope to go horribly wrong, especially as the girls seem a bit more unhinged than the norm.

Indeed so, and in the act of doing as she asked i could of seriously injured her or even worse case scenario killed her. Not my bag, i punt for fun not to beat women up.

Tony Montana

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I think that like most fantasies, the fantasy is different to the reality just as some guys enjoy a schoolgirl fantasy but would never consider sex with an actual schoolgirl.

The rape fantasy was recently raised with a black WG I saw who said her fantasy was to be gang raped by Ku Klux Klan members, all anonymously hooded.  Like Dani says, the fantasy is about surrendering control.

There was another WG who I gave a lift to and when I put my bag in the empty boot of my car, she asked me to force her into the boot and shut it - it was as if the empty boot triggered a kidnap fantasy.

« Last Edit: July 03, 2014, 08:50:28 pm by Tony Montana »

SirFrank

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About 10 years ago me and two mates visited a knocking shop in Swansea after a night out. One of the girls who my mate punted with asked him to hold her arms down forcefully. He obliged and then things got all weird. She started acting a bit weird and accused him of trying to control her. Believe me he really isn't the type. He said but you asked me etc etc. it eventually resulted in her crying at which point he got the fuck out of dodge. We were sat in the waiting area and he looked at us like wtf.

The old boiler on the front door went bonkers but not with my mate. It eventually resulted in her shouting at the girl I've had enough of this shit now get dressed and get out. My mate had a freebie with another girl. Turns out she often flipped out on punters.

I would feel deeply uncomfortable with the role play discussed in OP

OldAdmin

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I'm still not happy with having this emotive word at the top of the board. Meat and drink  to those who would wish to discredit the site. However I will await Adam's judgement on this.

I felt the same as you when I first saw this thread, the anti-prostitution brigade will also love it. But I'll let it stand so they can see I don't give a shit what they think. I refuse to let them think they have a victory in being able to influence in what can be discussed on UKP.

Rape roleplay doesn't really appeal to me, but it's like BDSM, watersports and other kinky things, as long as two consenting adults are wanting to do it behind closed doors, then nothing for others or politicians to get involved in.

Offline Matium

As long as there's a safe word which both the guy and the girl agree upon and stop as soon as it's uttered then it will be like any other BDSM roleplay.

The danger, of course, is that one side (usually the guy) gets so excited about the power he has over the girl that he forgets himself, ignores the safe word and the rape role play turns into actual rape.

Offline itk

Many years ago got to know a couple through a swinging/ dogging website. Had a couple of meets where she was tied to a tree and myself and two mates were told to go in the wood and do what we wanted. Only time I've ever been with a girl where all three holes were filled at the same time. Her fantasy was for her to be standing on a street where we were to drive up in a van, snatch her and then rape her. It never happened, as none of us had enough trust with the couple, had visions of us carrying it out and then being nicked by the cops

sucky2dollar

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It seems no one kicks up a fuss about a woman tying up a man and physically beating him or shoving large objects up his arse and leaving big welts on his back, legs, arse as she whips him or breaks his skin with a pinwheel just because it is fantasy yet when the roles are reversed and a woman wants to relinquish al control it becomes taboo and not to be talked about.  People need to remember it is role play as in not real. 

BDSM is willingly surrending your physical and sexual control to another (either gender) and it is in the realms of a sexual fetish. Rape isn't bdsm. I strongly suggest you learn the difference between the two before continuing to band around this headcase term 'rape play'.


fredpunter

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BDSM is willingly surrending your physical and sexual control to another (either gender) and it is in the realms of a sexual fetish. Rape isn't bdsm. I strongly suggest you learn the difference between the two before continuing to band around this headcase term 'rape play'.

The difference between role play and the actual act is the former is 90% imagination. I clearly remember the next time I met up with the lass I referred to earlier she said "i loved it when you forced me to suck your cock, I get horny thinking about it" ...... which is all well and good except I never actually forced her to suck my cock! And I never would, I was a bit shocked at the suggestion as I had no recollection of any time when we did anything like that, but if it made her happy to imagine I did  .......
« Last Edit: July 04, 2014, 12:09:39 am by fredpunter »

Offline dandaley

BDSM is willingly surrending your physical and sexual control to another (either gender) and it is in the realms of a sexual fetish. Rape isn't bdsm. I strongly suggest you learn the difference between the two before continuing to band around this headcase term 'rape play'.

yes i agree, personally i think we are talking about voluntary rough sex, as that is what infact it is.

Offline myothernameis

Can you name the prossies? If not, I believe you're just using it as a pretence to raise the subject... :hi:


A couple of years ago, on AW if you searched for the term Rape, there were some escorts offering this service, and tI think there was a escort in paisley, who allowed you to do anything to her, including beating her up, but you weren't allowed to hit her on the face

pleasure

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BDSM is willingly surrending your physical and sexual control to another (either gender) and it is in the realms of a sexual fetish. Rape isn't bdsm. I strongly suggest you learn the difference between the two before continuing to band around this headcase term 'rape play'.

I think you're getting mixed up between "rape play" and "rape". The former is a role play between two consenting adults, while the second is a vile act of abuse and a criminal offence. Mixing up the two doesn't help anybody.

Sure, it's an emotive subject that is going to get some people worked up, but as adults we should be able to discuss the subject without confusing what we're talking about.

Offline CBPaul

BDSM is willingly surrending your physical and sexual control to another (either gender) and it is in the realms of a sexual fetish. Rape isn't bdsm. I strongly suggest you learn the difference between the two before continuing to band around this headcase term 'rape play'.

I agree.
I'm not into BDSM but to my rather limited understanding there is a world of difference between BDSM and rape fantasy.

Essentially rape is unconsensual and therefore, must involve an element of force. Again there is a difference between forceful sex and rape. The idea of having safety words is all well and good but to my mind it also requires a strong element of trust and familiarity. The idea of prossies offering rape fantasy / rape play, call it what you like, leaves me uneasy to say the least. Offering it to some punter she hardly knows means she's either completely stupid or not right in the head.

Like others I was concerned that the anti-UKP brigade would use this thread against us - still am to a certain extent - but it is reassuring that nobody has so far advocated it.

Offline NIK

I think you're getting mixed up between "rape play" and "rape". The former is a role play between two consenting adults, while the second is a vile act of abuse and a criminal offence. Mixing up the two doesn't help anybody.

Sure, it's an emotive subject that is going to get some people worked up, but as adults we should be able to discuss the subject without confusing what we're talking about.

That's as may be but many people see the word and that's enough to set the alarm bells ringing. It's on their agenda against UKP not to discriminate between the two.

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Two WGs have recently asked me if I would do rape role play with them. Isn't that a bit wierd? I enjoy forceful, hard sex if you know the girl and you know she likes it that way, but to me rape is going one step (several steps TBH) too far. Any thoughts?

Throw in the word "rape" and everyone gets their knickers in a twist. The WG's asked you ( as highlighted above) therefore it is not rape.

Rape is un-consensual sex and being forced against your will. Since they asked you to do this, and given that you will stop when asked to do so,  it is role play.

rolf32313

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Be careful with this sort of thing, their have been a few cases in the paper where a lady has requested a guy knocks on her door she will pretend to not know anything and he rapes her to fulfil her wildest fantasy... It wasn't the woman who was to be raped who was posting and talking to the guy... was her "friend" getting revenge for some trivial girlie shite...

On a more general note, When did we as punters pay the prossies to fulfil their fantasies? It's suppose to the other other way round unless it's a freebee but then see warning above!

Offline cunnyhunt

Be careful with this sort of thing, their have been a few cases in the paper where a lady has requested a guy knocks on her door she will pretend to not know anything and he rapes her to fulfil her wildest fantasy... It wasn't the woman who was to be raped who was posting and talking to the guy... was her "friend" getting revenge for some trivial girlie shite...

Can you provide a link please.


vorian

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Can you provide a link please.

Sounds like an urban myth to me.




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Xerxes

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Rape is un-consensual sex and being forced against your will.
Force is not a relevant issue. The only relevant issue is consent; rape is sex without consent and without reasonable belief that consent has been given.

And reasonable means what a jury thinks it means.

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I felt the same as you when I first saw this thread, the anti-prostitution brigade will also love it. But I'll let it stand so they can see I don't give a shit what they think. I refuse to let them think they have a victory in being able to influence in what can be discussed on UKP.

Rape roleplay doesn't really appeal to me, but it's like BDSM, watersports and other kinky things, as long as two consenting adults are wanting to do it behind closed doors, then nothing for others or politicians to get involved in.

I'm glad you let this stay. An adult discussion about an act between two consenting adults shouldn't be swept under the carpet like it never happens.

As many people have said, rape play is JUST role play. It's totally consensual. I enjoy a bit of "forced" sex play in my private life, it doesn't mean I would want a total stranger on the street to jump me, nor a casual aquaintance or family friend to do it. And I agree what the other ladies have said about BDSM ('forced' acts) on a man being seen as different to BDSM ('forced' acts) on a woman.

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jack_walsh

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OP - run a mile or at least politely decline if you want to maintain contact.  If your immediate reaction or gut feeling was 'no way, not doing that' then remember it no matter what pressure you are put under. Even if you begin to understand the psychology of it, it's still a firm 'No Thank You!'.

Offline akauya

I've been thinking whether or not post about this but anyway.

I have done this, not with prossies but with civvies and I found out that it does nothing for me. Moreover it turns me off.

The eagled eyed amongst you may have noticed I posted before that I used to hunt for lovers (usually bored married women) in between punting and swinging, etc. So I met this pretty, petite, sweet looking, woman around my age, etc. After the obligatory dinner, drinks, etc. We got to fuck, the first time was OK, a pretty vanilla affair. It must have been good for her so we decided to meet again but this time she asks me to be rough, OK I don't mind a bit of rough sex so that was good too.

We had a few fucks like that until one day she says she wants it really, really rough and asks me to slap her while she is kneeling in front of me and me forcing her to suck me. OK I say let's go along with that. The idea seemed fun to me at first. So off we go and then I slap her (a bit gently) and then she asks me to do it harder and harder. The problem is the more she asks me to slap her harder the more I keep losing wood and feeling uncomfortable. We did finish having a bit of rough sex (I had to do a bit of DIY to get wood again) later on she said she enjoyed that. I asked did you really want me to slap you harder because I was feeling a bit uncomfortable with that. She said what we did was fine but I could sense she didn't get what she was expecting. Anyway, we never saw each other again after that.

Second time, a few years later, this time with a long term lover. We had been going out for some time and were experimenting with different fantasies, etc. We had been swinging, done group sex, etc. Next she says it was rape role play she wanted to try. And guess what was her fantasy, she is a prostitute that comes to my room (in a hotel) gets my money then refuses to fuck me so I then have to "force" her to deliver the goods.

We had a safe word for this because by this time I was more clued up (and so was she). Anyway she changed into some "hooker" clothes, goes out the room and a few minutes later knocks on the door. Initially it all goes as planned, I give her the money, then she changes her mind and tries to get away from the room. I grab her, we struggle and by fuck, she puts up a really fierce fight. Up to this time I was taking the whole thing mockingly but she was really into the role. So I then have to force her to the bed and start ripping her clothes off as agreed (thus her changing into her hooker clothes) she then starts swearing at me and I swear at her back and it goes on for a bit. I managed to rip all her clothes off and stretch her legs open but no point, as my cock remains as limp as a wet rag.

Fuck I thought, why can't she just say the safe word, FFS so we can fuck normally! Anyway she continues to struggle and swear at me then she lets me keep her legs open, I knew she was expecting me to fuck her by now, but no chance with my limp dick so I decided to fist her. The look of surprise on her face was priceless, I reminded her of the safe word and she nodded but no safe word uttered, oh bloody hell by this time I was knackered and sweaty but enjoying the fisting. I managed to get my whole fist inside of her and it felt weird and good at the same time. She stopped struggling and we did manage to have a good fuck. I had to go up her arse (after a bit of DIY to get wood again) as her pussy was sore (and loose probably).  During our post coital chat she said she really enjoyed that I told her I enjoyed it too but it's really not my thing. We never did that again once she ticked it off her list.

After those two experiences I don't think I will try them again, it's not for me and it just turns me off and it's embarrassing losing wood but I suppose it was another thing to tick off one's list.

fredpunter

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The common theme here appears to be that where rape roleplay, and I emphasise roleplay, is concerned, it seems to be the women rather than the blokes who want to do it.

Offline CBPaul

I've been thinking whether or not post about this but anyway.



I've had rough sex with civvies and one prossie in particular but that's always been with the encouragement of being rougher, so the opposite of rape role play really.

So having never done this sort of role play I appreciate you posting akauya, makes for interesting reading, especially the detrimental effect it had on you.