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Offline TeenKylie

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The Internet was also a key driver in that it totally revolutionised the exchange of information.

I joined a yahoo group in the early 2000s more for titillation than anything else as I hadn't started punting then and 3 documents they held were lists of WGs by region who kissed, did OWO or anal.

From what I remember there were very few at the start of the doc, but by the end only the A one was kept up to date as the others basically said 'everyone'

But why wouldnt they anyway?? Kissing and OWO are natural things to do and who wants to suck rubber really?? Anal... well i enjoy it but each to there own.

Offline Mr XL

Interestingly enough quite a few 'punters' actually don't want any sort of address, or directions. They say they prefer to call when in the town, I'm usually gobsmacked by this one as well as those who don't see the need for confirmation, or indeed phone contact. I do wonder that they could potentially be messed around, by unscrupulous types.

Putting the Punter first is an interesting one. If a WG doesn't put her customers first then she isn't going to be successful - unless she can guarantee a constant stream of newbies. Putting the Punter First however doesn't always mean doing whatever he thinks you should, that would be very blind and stupid. It's all about considering what works and quite often many 'rules' work for both Punter and WG alike - making the whole thing a lot easier for all concerned. Happy WG, Happy Punter (and vice-versa) generally makes for a very good time!

The trouble with a term like 'Putting the Customer First' is that it misleads the customer into thinking he or she can do just about anything.

No business could do that.

It's fine and laudable for a message board for punters to 'Put the Punter First' but no provider in any kind of business can think like that without at least some caveats. To make any business work you have to keep some kind of control and that, by definition, means you may not always put the customer and his/her wishes before your own.

It's a balance between the two and I think some providers and some punters do not see that because the difference in mind set between the two roles is just so different.


Offline Jimmyredcab

But why wouldnt they anyway?? Kissing and OWO are natural things to do and who wants to suck rubber really?? Anal... well i enjoy it but each to there own.

How old are you, 19 I believe, you know nothing about the history of this industry, without the influx of EE girls we would still struggle to get kissing or OWO.  :mad:

Offline TeenKylie

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How old are you, 19 I believe, you know nothing about the history of this industry, without the influx of EE girls we would still struggle to get kissing or OWO.  :mad:

Alright calm down! I just really do not see it that way. It seems rediculas to me! Why would you sturuggle to get it without there influx then?? Some people just genuinly enjoy it ffs!

Offline Jimmyredcab

The trouble with a term like 'Putting the Customer First' is that it misleads the customer into thinking he or she can do just about anything.

No business could do that.

I think you will find that 5 star hotels in London have the policy that the customer is always right ---- even if he is wrong.    ;) ;)

Offline Mr XL

I think you will find that 5 star hotels in London have the policy that the customer is always right ---- even if he is wrong.    ;) ;)

That's what they SAY.

There will always be limits..................but those limits will be higher if the customer pays...............he pays to be RIGHT. ;)

Offline TeenKylie

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How old are you, 19 I believe, you know nothing about the history of this industry, without the influx of EE girls we would still struggle to get kissing or OWO.  :mad:

Oh yeah and i still have not got an apology from you after WorkingAllWeek finally punted with me. All that troll crap you gave me when i first joined and all the stuff you said about my age not being true. But i know i never will. Like i said, you are a very strange character.

Offline Matium

Another good post, I also remember the days when kissing was almost unheard of, any girl who refused to kiss now would struggle to survive.   ;)

Not many girls actually do DFK. DFK when you're doing a tongue wrestle deep in each others mouths is quite rare. Most girls will keep your tongue in the front of their mouth and they won't explore your mouth either so although kissing might be common, French kissing and more importantly Deep French Kissing is rare.

The trouble is that the men are at the mercy of what the women will do.

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The trouble is that the men are at the mercy of what the women will do.

Correct, but we don't have to return a second time.    ;) ;)

Offline Mr XL

Correct, but we don't have to return a second time.    ;) ;)

That's what sums up market forces...........the conflict between what the customer wants and what the provider is prepared to give.



Offline Tibbs

Alright calm down! I just really do not see it that way. It seems rediculas to me! Why would you sturuggle to get it without there influx then?? Some people just genuinly enjoy it ffs!

There have always been WGs who kiss do OWO and anal and had you been born 20 years earlier you may well have been one of those rare girls that did. You would have been in the minority though.

Another example of how things have changed - when Charles and Diana married it was vital the Diana was still a virgin. How long did Kate & William live together before marriage?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2011, 10:36:52 AM by Tibbs »

Offline TeenKylie

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Correct, but we don't have to return a second time.    ;) ;)

I do love how you don't reply to my posts when you know theres nothing you can say. :D

Im just soooo glad i got to prove you all bloody WRONG!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Offline Jimmyredcab

I do love how you don't reply to my posts when you know theres nothing you can say. :D

The first rule of message boards ----------- don't feed Trolls.  :dash:

Offline TeenKylie

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There have always been WGs who kiss do OWO and anal and had you been born 20 years earlier you may well have been one of those rare girls that did. You would have been in the minority though.

Another example of how things have changed - when Charles and Diana married it was vital the Diana was still a virgin. How long did Kate & William live together before marriage?

Your right times have changed very much so. Some good, some bad. The good is women have alot more feedom to explore there sexuality now and it's alot more accepted.

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The first rule of message boards ----------- don't feed Trolls.  :dash:

You are so stupid lmfao! :D Ive been proved not to be one and yet you still call me one! You can't say anything hahahaha :lol:

Offline Matium

Market forces? Influx of East Europeans?

The elephant in the room is being ignored - AIDS!

In the late 70s and early 80s, bareback sex was common, if you wanted it, all you had to do was pay £20 extra. Kissing was rare, it was felt to be too personal, almost in unison, girls would say: "That's only for my boyfriend/husband/pimp". But round about 1981, you had the first big AIDS scare and that was the start of the movement away from bareback sex. As bareback sex became off limits, something had to replace it - and that was kissing.

I don't count the thousands of bareback ads on Adultwork because even a cursory examination would reveal that most are bogus scammers but with the decline in concern about AIDS, it is possible that bareback sex will come back into fashion.

Offline smiths

But why wouldnt they anyway?? Kissing and OWO are natural things to do and who wants to suck rubber really?? Anal... well i enjoy it but each to there own.

Very naive post. Before the fantastic for punters EE WG influx kissing was mainly off the menu as it was reserved for partners only and some WGs did OWO and some didnt in my experiences. EEs raised the bar of what they were prepared to offer and the Brits felt they had to do the same to compete.

Free market capitalism at its best, it can be a wonderful thing (apart from when you have cunts like Gordon Brown running the country). ;)

Offline smiths

Thats so rediculas and so is this whole ''brotherhood'' sisterhood'' crap. And it would not happen anyway because alot of people would never waste there time on internet forms like these. But if you want a straight awnser to a stupid question then no i would not see them unless they had feedback that showed they were genuine and safe. I am not that desperate for money whatever some of you like to think. My saftey,life and home comes before anything including money.

Waste their time of forums like this. The fact is it could save them a significant amount of money on their punting. Ignorance of such forums is what numerous punters have told me why they werent on or didnt know about sites like this. No need to post all the time but being aware of such a resource and keeping your eye on it is good for all punters that are looking for VFM and recommendations. Of course who knows how many punters are aware of punting forums but think they are rubbish and of no help or use. ;)

Offline Strawberry

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Waste their time of forums like this. The fact is it could save them a significant amount of money on their punting. Ignorance of such forums is what numerous punters have told me why they werent on or didnt know about sites like this. No need to post all the time but being aware of such a resource and keeping your eye on it is good for all punters that are looking for VFM and recommendations. Of course who knows how many punters are aware of punting forums but think they are rubbish and of no help or use. ;)

Yes and it's also beneficial to the WG if clients are clued up too. Regards kissing I never considered whether other girls offered it or not, I just see kissing as part and parcel of sex. That's it, it's only after reading a lot and listening to clients that I realise it wasn't usual at one time - but also that some girls still don't offer it too (or so I'm told).

Offline Jimmyredcab

Of course who knows how many punters are aware of punting forums but think they are rubbish and of no help or use. ;)

Probably thousands, and they are the ones responsible for paying stupid rates for an inferior service.

Guys on here are more clued up, that is why we are hated in some quarters.   ;)

Offline Stiltskin

Seems strange that people say EE girls were responsible for raising the bar when it comes to giving a GFE, yet in nearly all of my recent encounters with EE girls, they were the girls most likely to hold back. Polish girls being the exception here.

Then as TK says, there are girls who actually enjoy what they're doing and get as much out of it as the punter does.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Seems strange that people say EE girls were responsible for raising the bar when it comes to giving a GFE, yet in nearly all of my recent encounters with EE girls, they were the girls most likely to hold back. Polish girls being the exception here.


You should visit Elise from Hungary ------------- HOD London, kisses like a long lost girlfriend.   :yahoo:

Offline Sailormack

Most WGs want to do as little as possible for as much as possible... no different to most workers.

It is the increase in competition that has lowered prices and increased the services on offer.

Simple economics.

Offline ParisB

i understand totally where your coming from  and thats  fine if it works for you and girls are happy to give out there address  to every tom dick and harry that calls   you have no control over the situation of when someone turn up and beit early or late and i would hate that
 
personally i think they would be nuts to do that but each to there own if it works for them and they are happy with it then thats fine 

Even with guys that i have seen lots of times i ask them to confirm on the day and not to just turn up they need to call me when they have arrived and then i will buzz them in 


i try to work a very stress free way and live a stress free life in fact i dont do stress im a hippy chick at heart   and having people turning up early or late or when they feel like is not how i like to work  its to much stress.

  Even when im in hotel and im touring , im not giving out the room number untill i know that they are on my floor and can tell me what floor number that they can see 
my safety is the most important thing as far as im concernced i never had a problem working this way and dont intend to change i would rather loose a few bookings than be stressed out waiting for someone to turn up

i do have the advantage of having worked for a long time so am well established so guy are more likely to feel that i wont mess them around ect   
 

As i said previously having been sent on wild goose chases in the past which have resulted in the WG not actually answering her phone to give me the exact address but being in the place she asked me to be at at the time she asked, i wont risk this occuring again unless its local and i was in the area anyway.

 I wont leave mine when i confirm i am on my way to her place without her full address, i have no problem if the WG doesnt want to give me her address, i simply go elsewhere. In reality if they want my business its full address or no business and most give it to me when i confirm i am on my way if not when i book although its more often i only get the general area they are in at this stage which is fine with me initially. :)

Offline smiths

i understand totally where your coming from  and thats  fine if it works for you and girls are happy to give out there address  to every tom dick and harry that calls   you have no control over the situation of when someone turn up and beit early or late and i would hate that
 
personally i think they would be nuts to do that but each to there own if it works for them and they are happy with it then thats fine 

Even with guys that i have seen lots of times i ask them to confirm on the day and not to just turn up they need to call me when they have arrived and then i will buzz them in 


i try to work a very stress free way and live a stress free life in fact i dont do stress im a hippy chick at heart   and having people turning up early or late or when they feel like is not how i like to work  its to much stress.

  Even when im in hotel and im touring , im not giving out the room number untill i know that they are on my floor and can tell me what floor number that they can see 
my safety is the most important thing as far as im concernced i never had a problem working this way and dont intend to change i would rather loose a few bookings than be stressed out waiting for someone to turn up

i do have the advantage of having worked for a long time so am well established so guy are more likely to feel that i wont mess them around ect   
 

Put it this way Paris given your reputation it wouldnt put me off punting with you, in your case it wouldnt be here nor there in importance to me but thats because of hearing about you on punting sites many times and knowing you dont send punters on these wild goose chases. In percentage terms its not high that this happens but enough to me to want to actively avoid the risk.

I never leave mine without confirming with the WG however many times i have punted with her, this gives me peace of mind but unlike with a newbie to me where i require a phone conversation with a regular i will punt by text if it suits her better from the second punt onwards. I NEVER knock on her door before the agreed time but have rang or texted and found on ocassion the punter before me didnt turn up so the lady has given me the option of coming straight away which i will normally take up.

To me its about common courtesy, i always go into a punt with it and expect it back. Most WGs do give it back but those bad ones that dont should be slammed and condemned by all in my opinion. :( ;)


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