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Author Topic: Why are address confirmations only done so- 10 minutes before the Punt?  (Read 8336 times)

Offline RedAlertTourist

Quick thread.

Why do Escorts insist on only disclosing their full address 10 minutes before a meet up?

What difference does it make to "their security".

I mean if I were a spy for a rival PIMP or whatever- then surely I could set up an Adultwork account- send a false booking asking where the nearest Tube Station is (or read it off their profile page).

Text a message to one of my cronies- and let them visit the W/G in question.


It pisses me off Escorts say they won't dislcose their address - you turn up and then get stood up.

Offline Strawberry

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I have a tried and tested system, that doesn't involve giving my address out because you'd not find me if I did! Also have had clients come up my path on 'reccie' runs, as well as forget directions when given.

Some of us do have valid reasons, and personally I'd rather have guys actually get to my door. I have however heard horrendous tales of guys being given the run around too.



Online Jimmyredcab


It pisses me off Escorts say they won't dislcose their address - you turn up and then get stood up.

If a prostitute refuses to give me her address I simply book someone else, I have come unstuck in the past, never again.
Suppose I book for 30 minutes and then another guy wants a 2 hour booking at the same time, what chance would I have. ??????
My money, my rules. ;)

Offline RedAlertTourist

If a prostitute refuses to give me her address I simply book someone else, I have come unstuck in the past, never again.
Suppose I book for 30 minutes and then another guy wants a 2 hour booking at the same time, what chance would I have. ??????
My money, my rules. ;)

Are you saying it IS possible to get full address the day before?

I don't mind getting the street address only if

a) the Escort leaves her phone swithed on and answers
b) I get her address a good two hours before the meet up or before I set off on my journey.

Offline AnthG

Its obvious so the girl knows you are going to turn up, and when.

But I have had a case where I have went to the agreed location, phoned up and the girl would not answer only for me to be like. What to I do now??

Standing around an area like some kind of weirdo phoning constantly. Its not a nice feeling at all and it makes you hyper self concious when people are walking by.

If a punter was really a creep all he needs to do is stay in his house and phone 10 mins before the appointment and get the address.

Offline RedAlertTourist

If a punter was really a creep all he needs to do is stay in his house and phone 10 mins before the appointment and get the address.

My point exactly.

But sticking to what JRC said. Most Escorts do it in case a better booking comes along so they can cancel if they get a 2 hour booking over- say- a 30 minute one.

With English Nymph Carly from Adultwork she regularly cancels a whole week of client bookings to say she's on "holiday" to gain sympathy from idiotic punters.

The truth is these "holidays" are actually week long bookings from rich clients in places like Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Carly was the one who confirmed this herself in an e-mail to me (I'll post an Adultwork screenshot if need be).

Also if you go onto auto-censored forum and type in English Nymph Carly- you'll see she has stood up no less than 6-9 other posters who got the same treatment.

Offline Daffodil

For the same reason Jimmy is alluding to...they can't (or are less likely) to doublebook if you already have their address.

10 minutes beforehand she knows your 30 minute booking is the best offer she's getting.

Offline AnthG

But what happens if you have booked her before and this is your second time of booking.

One of the annoying things about the agency I go to is I need to phone 10 mins before the appointment.

They also will not tell you the address until 10 mins beforehand.

One appointment I booked, my third one with them, I even said so its this address I need to go to, and they said no its not. I said I have been there before to see other girls. And they said its not that address I will tell you when you get there when you phone.

Just to get there for them to tell me it was the address all along. Its like why all the secrecy??

Offline Daffodil

But what happens if you have booked her before and this is your second time of booking.
One of the annoying things about the agency I go to is I need to phone 10 mins before the appointment.

They also will not tell you the address until 10 mins beforehand.

One appointment I booked, my third one with them, I even said so its this address I need to go to, and they said no its not. I said I have been there before to see other girls. And they said its not that address I will tell you when you get there when you phone.

Just to get there for them to tell me it was the address all along. Its like why all the secrecy??

I don't use parlours so can only comment on indies. If I have already seen her once then I already know her address! If she has moved then she can, and usually does, play the same tricks.

Offline Stiltskin

Suppose I book for 30 minutes and then another guy wants a 2 hour booking at the same time, what chance would I have. ??????
My money, my rules. ;)

I'd not realised this before, but it make perfect sense.

A few months back I had a booking with a girl in another town, about 30 mins away from me. She'd suggested I call her from a car park, but wouldn't give me her road name. I'd just parked my car and picked up the phone to call her and I get a text cancelling the booking. It said something along the lines of 'sorry, something has come up, can't do it'. This was about 5 mins before the booking!

On the way home I had more text messages from her, asking where I was! :rolleyes: Looks like she got her numbers mixed up, cancelled the wrong punter and the other one didn't turn up. I didn't bother replying.

Then you get these girls that refuse to even give a road name or a postcode before a booking. This really pees me off, especially when it's a big city. You phone 10 mins before the booking, only to find out that she's on the other side of the city and half an hour away at least.

Offline GlasgowGirl

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I personally give the street name only until 10 mins before the bookings (although I reassure the client that if they want to call me before they set off to be sure are still on me or assistant will definitely answer).

The main reason for this is SIMPLE - so I can look out of the window as the client is approaching and make sure there is ONLY ONE PERSON COMING. There is a sort of 'porch' outside and when they get near the door I can't see them (common for lots of flats) so I want to make sure that there is only one person, and that person doesn't look drugged etc (then I can refuse to answer the door). Robbers and assailants will most likely come in pairs.

Example - Last month, less than a mile from my incall place a girl accepted a booking from a single man and did not check and when the booking started she was confronted with 4 men, beaten and one of them tried to drag her into a car. I know this is true as the police in the area have been issuing warnings to all local sex work projects with full descriptions and car reg plate which passers by in the street had noted when they heard screaming, ran over and disturbed the attackers.

Second reason - in case one client turns up very early (it happens a LOT) or doesn't turn up for his appointment but then proceeds to buzz 2 hours later and runs into the next client. I leave half an hour between but the first one could run late and the second early then they would meet each other.

The first reason is the most important. 

Offline Matium


I have had a case where I have went to the agreed location, phoned up and the girl would not answer only for me to be like. What to I do now??


You don't supppose the girl peeped at you from behind the net curtains, looked at you and said to herself: "No, I'm not having him!"

 :lol:

Offline Hampton

In the past, I have been given a rough location to aim for initially e.g. nearest Tesco or Adsa, or other easy to find landmark, so that at least I am in the right part of town, before being given the actual address just beforehand, seems to be a reasonable compromise.

Offline AnthG

You don't supppose the girl peeped at you from behind the net curtains, looked at you and said to herself: "No, I'm not having him!"

 :lol:
Maybe. I did go dressed as a Romulan to that appointment. But she did have on her likes list dressing up so thought all would be ok.  :dance:

Offline smiths

If a prostitute refuses to give me her address I simply book someone else, I have come unstuck in the past, never again.
Suppose I book for 30 minutes and then another guy wants a 2 hour booking at the same time, what chance would I have. ??????
My money, my rules. ;)

Exactly right. Wild goose chases are firmly in my past, it does take some pressing on the phone to get the exact address though on ocassion, but unless its very local and its not going to be a wasted journey as my plan b is in the area or on the way to it in which case i will go on the road only, i also go elsewhere when the WG refuses me the full address. Another case where bad WGs small in number but very annoying have shaped my view over the years. ;)

Offline smiths

I don't use parlours so can only comment on indies. If I have already seen her once then I already know her address! If she has moved then she can, and usually does, play the same tricks.

AnthG said Agencies not Parlours, there is a big difference between the two. A Parlour has a fixed incall base which would only change if they move, if you have been their once obviously you have the address whereas an Agency has different locations be it the WGs flat or a hotel room for example and these locations could be different with each WG you see through the Agency. :)

Online Jimmyredcab

In the past, I have been given a rough location to aim for initially e.g. nearest Tesco or Adsa, or other easy to find landmark, so that at least I am in the right part of town, before being given the actual address just beforehand, seems to be a reasonable compromise.

That may seem OK until you phone from Tescos and get voicemail, I don't need wild goose chases, thanks all the same.  ;)

Offline ParisB

if the escort is professional then it wont be a problem ive  never had a guy say unless i get the exact address im not turning up and any escort that dose give out the address to random strangers is asking for trouble  -  you get guys that turn up earlier than planned and then are ringing your bell  banging on the door ect  with no consideration
 
 
and the calling from home wouldnt work with me,  as i direct guys to my flat im able to see them walking from the car park its not that i want to see what they look like - i want to see that they are actually there and why shouldnt i -  my security is important to me as it is to most ladies i would imagine
 
on one occassion  i was directing a guy in to my flat and i noticed that the was another guy just behind him to close he didnt overtake him or anything when walking so i realised that they were together
when i questioned my client he said oh thats my mate he wants to see you as well
so no regards to if i want to see two  guys or anything like that  just assumed that i would or possibly want to rob me 
so thats why i dont give out the exact address or the number untill i can actually see the client
even in hotel i dont give out the room number untill they are on my floor and can tell me what room numbers they can see   
 
Its obvious so the girl knows you are going to turn up, and when.

But I have had a case where I have went to the agreed location, phoned up and the girl would not answer only for me to be like. What to I do now??

Standing around an area like some kind of weirdo phoning constantly. Its not a nice feeling at all and it makes you hyper self concious when people are walking by.

If a punter was really a creep all he needs to do is stay in his house and phone 10 mins before the appointment and get the address.

Offline smiths

if the escort is professional then it wont be a problem ive  never had a guy say unless i get the exact address im not turning up and any escort that dose give out the address to random strangers is asking for trouble  -  you get guys that turn up earlier than planned and then are ringing your bell  banging on the door ect  with no consideration
 
 
and the calling from home wouldnt work with me,  as i direct guys to my flat im able to see them walking from the car park its not that i want to see what they look like - i want to see that they are actually there and why shouldnt i -  my security is important to me as it is to most ladies i would imagine
 
on one occassion  i was directing a guy in to my flat and i noticed that the was another guy just behind him to close he didnt overtake him or anything when walking so i realised that they were together
when i questioned my client he said oh thats my mate he wants to see you as well
so no regards to if i want to see two  guys or anything like that  just assumed that i would or possibly want to rob me 
so thats why i dont give out the exact address or the number untill i can actually see the client
even in hotel i dont give out the room number untill they are on my floor and can tell me what room numbers they can see   

As i said previously having been sent on wild goose chases in the past which have resulted in the WG not actually answering her phone to give me the exact address but being in the place she asked me to be at at the time she asked, i wont risk this occuring again unless its local and i was in the area anyway.

 I wont leave mine when i confirm i am on my way to her place without her full address, i have no problem if the WG doesnt want to give me her address, i simply go elsewhere. In reality if they want my business its full address or no business and most give it to me when i confirm i am on my way if not when i book although its more often i only get the general area they are in at this stage which is fine with me initially. :)

Offline Matium

There are far more dodgy prossies than there are dodgy punters.

Prostitutes shouldn't be so paranoid.

99% of men are decent and honest and would never even dream of hitting a woman.

If a prostitute can't suss out the 1% who would then she shouldn't be on the game in the first place.

Offline Lurtz

Strawberry and Paris put forward good cases for withholding the full address - and we have to accept that there are dangerous punters out there - but with girls who don't have their good reputations and high profiles, it can be a recipe for a wild goose chase which ends with a phonecall that goes straight to voicemail.

Online Jimmyredcab

Strawberry and Paris put forward good cases for withholding the full address - and we have to accept that there are dangerous punters out there - but with girls who don't have their good reputations and high profiles, it can be a recipe for a wild goose chase which ends with a phonecall that goes straight to voicemail.

What would they say if I booked an outcall and told them to ring when they reach my local Tesco for the full address  ----- I think we all know the answer to that.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Offline Tibbs

There are far more dodgy prossies than there are dodgy punters.

Could you post a link to your research that confirms this please? As a researcher by trade few things annoy me more than people trying to pass opinion off as fact. :dash:

Given the massive numbers of punters and the relatively few numbers of prostitutes, the chances of your statement being true from an absolute numbers point of view is extremely unlikely. Even if you look at it as a %, I still doubt the evidence would be in your favour.

You also have to look at the consequences. If a WG leaves you at a street corner, unless you're punting somewhere like South Tottenham or Moss Side the only thing you're likely to suffer is a waste of time. Annoying, but hardly fatal. A prostitute on the other hand runs bigger risks, as detailed in this thread.

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You also have to look at the consequences. If a WG leaves you at a street corner, unless you're punting somewhere like South Tottenham or Moss Side the only thing you're likely to suffer is a waste of time. Annoying, but hardly fatal. A prostitute on the other hand runs bigger risks, as detailed in this thread.

So, are you a prostitute or a fluffie. ??????
If someone is determined to rob a girl they will do it, holding back the address until the last minute does very little to increase security.
Some of the passengers who have done runners from my cab looked totally respectable, others who looked dodgy have ended up giving me a generous tip.



Offline foresight

So, are you a prostitute or a fluffie. ??????
If someone is determined to rob a girl they will do it, holding back the address until the last minute does very little to increase security.
Some of the passengers who have done runners from my cab looked totally respectable, others who looked dodgy have ended up giving me a generous tip.
Like it or not, a punter gets to see a girl on her terms.  If he does not like the terms, he is free to go somewhere else. 


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