Author Topic: Paying for sex police warning (Read 8597 times)

punt2015 · « **on:** September 06, 2021, 04:49:31 pm »

Hi,

I need some advice. I met a scam girl on sugardaddymeet.com site. She tried to rob me which i didn't let her afterwards her bf sent me some threatening messages. I reported to the police instead of arresting the culprit they warned me that i hv commuhave committed a crime as paying for sex illegal in UK so i should stop going to escorts otherwise they will arrest me next time.

Does anyone has any knowledge if its true

Punterperson1971 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:53:48 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:49:31 pm

Hi,

I need some advice. I met a scam girl on sugardaddymeet.com site. She tried to rob me which i didn't let her afterwards her bf sent me some threatening messages. I reported to the police instead of arresting the culprit they warned me that i hv commuhave committed a crime as paying for sex illegal in UK so i should stop going to escorts otherwise they will arrest me next time.

Does anyone has any knowledge if its true

You’ve been on here for 6 years so surely you’ve seen the numerous similar situations people have got themselves into in here over that time police can’t stop you looking for escorts what next they going to check up on you or stop you from viewing porn.

punt2015 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:56:05 pm »

Yes i am here 6 years but never got any warning specially paying for sex is a crime so was bit worried

alabama1 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:58:58 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:56:05 pm

Yes i am here 6 years but never got any warning specially paying for sex is a crime so was bit worried

Paying for sex is not a crime

punt2015 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:01:53 pm »

I know but police says its a crime which is not but don't know why they warned me

bdyno · « **Reply #5 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:02:37 pm »

As I understand it prostitution isn't illegal in the UK - however making money off prostituting others is. So I don't believe you were breaking the law there.

However most of the advertising sites have a disclaimer whereby you are paying for the escort's time. Anything else that happens is between consenting adults.

But in this instance you were simply scammed. There's a lot of it about and the police aren't likely to care. Chalk it up to experience and stick to more reputable SPs in the future.

Punterperson1971 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:04:57 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:56:05 pm

Yes i am here 6 years but never got any warning specially paying for sex is a crime so was bit worried

What I’m saying is there’s been loads of stories on here similar to yours so have a dead of some of them if you can find them

alabama1 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:05:28 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 05:01:53 pm

I know but police says its a crime which is not but don't know why they warned me

Don't know what the fuck you are on about. All i can do is reiterate, PAYING FOR SEX IS NOT A CRIME

Colston36 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:13:58 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:49:31 pm

Hi,

I need some advice. I met a scam girl on sugardaddymeet.com site. She tried to rob me which i didn't let her afterwards her bf sent me some threatening messages. I reported to the police instead of arresting the culprit they warned me that i hv commuhave committed a crime as paying for sex illegal in UK so i should stop going to escorts otherwise they will arrest me next time.

Does anyone has any knowledge if its true

Which police did you report it to? As others have pointed out it is not a crime.

bedhedred · « **Reply #9 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:16:03 pm »

Well for the time being it is not a crime, but there are miserable fucks who are actively trying to make it a crime. They did not succeed in the latest attempt.

punt2015 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:17:51 pm »

alabama1 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:19:20 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 05:17:51 pm

Cant you read ? I said police gave me warning instead of capturing the scammers. I repoted to the police and bloody two police officers rang me to warn that i committed a crime and i can be arrested now as people say its not crime so it means they were bluffing

Yes we can read. We are giving you the facts !

belfastpunter · « **Reply #12 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:20:50 pm »

Paying for sex is only illegal in Northern Ireland.
In the rest of the UK it perfectly legal. However most activity around it is illegal such as a brothel keeping, pimping, trafficking, soliciting, kerb crawling. Ads state “only paying for time” to get round the soliciting law.

By the way if you encounter a trafficked sex slave or a child, you have no defence in law, regardless of what the pimp or advert told you. Do not pass go, do not collect £200.

Fugly · « **Reply #13 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:35:57 pm »

External Link/Members Only

Page last updated Feb 2021, so it's pretty up to date

Vice Admiral · « **Reply #14 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:44:54 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:49:31 pm

I reported to the police instead of arresting the culprit they warned me that i hv commuhave committed a crime as paying for sex illegal in UK so i should stop going to escorts otherwise they will arrest me next time.

If the OP genuinely got through to the genuine police, then their response was outrageous.

Regardless of whether they thought – perhaps understandably – that the OP's complaint was unworthy of their time and attention, brushing him off with bare-faced lies and, indeed, threats was worse than unprofessional.

Next stop the Police Complaints Commission?

punt2015 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:56:13 pm »

Quote from: Vice Admiral on September 06, 2021, 05:44:54 pm

If the OP genuinely got through to the genuine police, then their response was outrageous.

Regardless of whether they thought – perhaps understandably – that the OP's complaint was unworthy of their time and attention, brushing him off with bare-faced lies and, indeed, threats was worse than unprofessional.

Next stop the Police Complaints Commission?

I am sure they were genuine police officers luckily i got call recording app so everything was recorded

NelsonH · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2021, 05:59:06 pm »

Go on Youtube and find the guys that bait the police for fun.

You will learn what to say to them.

Phrases like:

"under what legislation have I committed a crime"
"are you intended to arrest me"

come in handy.

It will become quite obvious to you that they often do not know the law.

This is pretty shocking but this is Britain where nothing works properly anymore.

punt2015 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2021, 06:08:15 pm »

Quote from: NelsonH on September 06, 2021, 05:59:06 pm

Go on Youtube and find the guys that bait the police for fun.

You will learn what to say to them.

Phrases like:

"under what legislation have I committed a crime"
"are you intended to arrest me"

come in handy.

It will become quite obvious to you that they often do not know the law.

This is pretty shocking but this is Britain where nothing works properly anymore.

It was surprising he said he is going to warn the other party and he is closing the case and not taking any action against other party or against me

The Owl · « **Reply #18 on:** September 06, 2021, 06:12:47 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:56:05 pm

Yes i am here 6 years but never got any warning specially paying for sex is a crime so was bit worried

It was probably a case of a police officer who didn't want to fill out the necessary paperwork for a case that would be he said she said, so the dodgy cop probably used false threats to get you to fuck off so he didn't have to do his job.

punt2015 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 06, 2021, 06:19:28 pm »

Quote from: The Owl on September 06, 2021, 06:12:47 pm

It was probably a case of a police officer who didn't want to fill out the necessary paperwork for a case that would be he said she said, so the dodgy cop probably used false threats to get you to fuck off so he didn't have to do his job.

This is exactly what i felt when he was telling off. Bloody south Yorkshire police

Trex · « **Reply #20 on:** September 06, 2021, 07:03:11 pm »

@punt2015

How did she try to rob you? Did you meet her in person?

Happiness · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2021, 07:08:29 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 05:01:53 pm

I know but police says its a crime which is not but don't know why they warned me

Some(not all) of them like to lie and cause trouble for no reason. Ignore it.

sparkus · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2021, 07:16:26 pm »

Plod can be sloppy and inconsistent, like anyone in any job.

It's also the case that investigating what you detail would be quite a ballache for them, so to avoid that in future they just tried to deter you from being in that situation again?

And let that a be a lesson to you sonny.

scutty brown · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2021, 07:43:30 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:49:31 pm

Hi,

I need some advice. I met a scam girl on sugardaddymeet.com site. She tried to rob me which i didn't let her afterwards her bf sent me some threatening messages. I reported to the police instead of arresting the culprit they warned me that i hv commuhave committed a crime as paying for sex illegal in UK so i should stop going to escorts otherwise they will arrest me next time.

Does anyone has any knowledge if its true

SO WHO IS THE GIRL?
That's all that matters in this thread

daviemac · « **Reply #24 on:** September 06, 2021, 07:47:54 pm »

Quote from: Fugly on September 06, 2021, 05:35:57 pm

External Link/Members Only

Page last updated Feb 2021, so it's pretty up to date

No offence to punting wiki, but as far as legal matters are concerned I prefer the official route. - External Link/Members Only.

As far as the OP's concerned contact the police and ask to speak to a senior officer.

Steely Dan · « **Reply #25 on:** September 06, 2021, 08:07:01 pm »

Quote from: daviemac on September 06, 2021, 07:47:54 pm

No offence to punting wiki, but as far as legal matters are concerned I prefer the official route. - External Link/Members Only.

That is the second link on the PW. Just below trafficking one. Can't miss it. We send people there.

But unlike the PW, the CPS does not mention that punting (and being an escort) is legal. It is almost clear if one reads it very carefully that it is legal, but they spend so much talking about related activity that it seems illegal. Many misunderstand that CPS page without context. It is truthful but nonetheless (IMHO) slanted. Better read after the PW headline.

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As far as the OP's concerned contact the police and ask to speak to a senior officer.

Good advise. If a few of us don't object to this behaviour, who will?

john0109 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 06, 2021, 08:28:19 pm »

Yeah - the police can be pretty ignorant of the law or choose to misrepresent it in order to achieve some outcome with unwitting members of the public.

You can see plenty of examples of the police misrepresenting the law on Youtube. E.g. attempting to shut down lawful activities such as free speech or public photography as they enjoy exerting their 'authority'.

In this case it was probably some lazy constable that didn't want to go to the trouble of helping you and was looking to deter you from pursuing the matter.

mrwhite · « **Reply #27 on:** September 06, 2021, 08:33:45 pm »

If you have a recording of the police officer telling you that "you have committed the crime" then make a complaint here

External Link/Members Only
or if it happened in Scotland here
External Link/Members Only

Don't be fobbed off, you are the aggrieved party. There may not be enough evidence to prosecute her but it will put a shot across her bows.

Meanwhile why not let us all know who she is (post a link) then none of us fall into the same trap.

scutty brown · « **Reply #28 on:** September 06, 2021, 08:44:32 pm »

Paying for sex is illegal if the girl is forced or under duress. Did the police think that was the case?
From Daviemac's weblink

Quote

Paying for Sexual Services
Relevant Law
Section 53A of the Sexual Offences Act 2003, inserted by Section 14 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009, creates a summary-only offence of paying for the sexual services of a prostitute subjected to force, etc.

A person (A) commits an offence if:

A makes or promises payment for the sexual services of a prostitute (B);
A third person (C) has engaged in exploitative conduct of a kind likely to induce or encourage B to provide the sexual offences for which A has made or promised payment; and
C engaged in that conduct for or in the expectation of gain for C or another person (apart from A or B).
It is irrelevant:

Where the sexual services are provided.
If the sexual services are, in fact, provided.
Whether A is, or ought to be, aware that C has engaged in exploitative conduct.
‘Exploitative conduct’ includes:

The use of force, threats (whether or not relating to violence) or any other form of coercion.
Any form of deception.
The offence is one of strict liability. This means that it is irrelevant whether A is, or ought to be, aware that B is subject to exploitative conduct by C.

There is no statutory definition of ‘sexual services’. It is normally deemed to include acts of penetrative intercourse (as set out in section 4(4) Sexual Offences Act 2003) and masturbation. It does not include activities such as ‘stripping’, ‘lap dancing’ etc.

daviemac · « **Reply #29 on:** September 06, 2021, 08:59:50 pm »

Quote from: scutty brown on September 06, 2021, 08:44:32 pm

Paying for sex is illegal if the girl is forced or under duress. Did the police think that was the case?
From Daviemac's weblink

To add to that, ignorance of the fact they are trafficked or coerced is not a defence.

Fabaceous · « **Reply #30 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:16:55 pm »

Here's my take:
The OP said in his first post "her bf sent me some threatening messages"
Did the BF have the OP's phone number?
Then the OP says later in the thread "I repoted to the police and bloody two police officers rang me to warn that i committed a crime" (sic)

I bet the BF pretended to be plod to scare him off. As he was brave enough to report it to the police and if the call to him was genuine (he recorded it) then he should make an appointment at the police station and raise it with the station Inspector who has a duty to investigate a crime.
Fab

webpunter · « **Reply #31 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:21:20 pm »

As a matter of interest which app ?

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 05:56:13 pm

I am sure they were genuine police officers luckily i got call recording app so everything was recorded

punt2015 · « **Reply #32 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:22:55 pm »

Guys thanks for your advice. I met her on sugar daddy meet while i was with her in hotel she was continually with her so called bf or pimp we agreed 150 for the night and after few hours she said shes hungry so i took her to takeaway orderd food as soon as she got the food she said she needs to go cos some kind of emergency arise and start asking money i refused and drop off there and come back to the hotel. Afterwards i start getting threatening msgs from her bf that pay me otherwise i am coming to kill you i will stab you etc. So j reported to the police so now here i am

tynetunnel · « **Reply #33 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:26:16 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 09:22:55 pm

Guys thanks for your advice. I met her on sugar daddy meet while i was with her in hotel she was continually with her so called bf or pimp we agreed 150 for the night and after few hours she said shes hungry so i took her to takeaway orderd food as soon as she got the food she said she needs to go cos some kind of emergency arise and start asking money i refused and drop off there and come back to the hotel. Afterwards i start getting threatening msgs from her bf that pay me otherwise i am coming to kill you i will stab you etc. So j reported to the police so now here i am

£150 for the night? It’s no wonder she wanted to go after a few hours! Whilst I don’t condone threatening behaviour, it sounds to me like you had a ‘few hours’ of her company yet didn’t give her any money

punt2015 · « **Reply #34 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:28:15 pm »

Quote from: webpunter on September 06, 2021, 09:21:20 pm

As a matter of interest which app ?

Cube call recorder and yes i hv their recording

scutty brown · « **Reply #35 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:29:22 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 09:22:55 pm

Guys thanks for your advice. I met her on sugar daddy meet while i was with her in hotel she was continually with her so called bf or pimp we agreed 150 for the night and after few hours she said shes hungry so i took her to takeaway orderd food as soon as she got the food she said she needs to go cos some kind of emergency arise and start asking money i refused and drop off there and come back to the hotel. Afterwards i start getting threatening msgs from her bf that pay me otherwise i am coming to kill you i will stab you etc. So j reported to the police so now here i am

Please identify the girl
post a link to her online profile

punt2015 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:29:49 pm »

Quote from: tynetunnel on September 06, 2021, 09:26:16 pm

£150 for the night? It’s no wonder she wanted to go after a few hours! Whilst I don’t condone threatening behaviour, it sounds to me like you had a ‘few hours’ of her company yet didn’t give her any money

Well this is what she agreed then she back off

punt2015 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:32:18 pm »

Quote from: scutty brown on September 06, 2021, 09:29:22 pm

Please identify the girl
post a link to her online profile

I cant fibd her as she blocked me but i capture screen shot of her profile when i was not blocked

scutty brown · « **Reply #38 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:37:32 pm »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 09:32:18 pm

I cant fibd her as she blocked me but i capture screen shot of her profile when i was not blocked

so can you post the screen shot?
or give us the profile name?
what was the phone number?

punt2015 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:39:25 pm »

Quote from: scutty brown on September 06, 2021, 09:37:32 pm

so can you post the screen shot?
or give us the profile name?
what was the phone number?

On sugardaddymeet.com her profile name meetsuphorny

punt2015 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 06, 2021, 09:39:56 pm »

Can post her pic here? Moderators?

One Eyed Snake · « **Reply #41 on:** September 06, 2021, 11:33:29 pm »

I reckon he’s taking the piss out of you all.

Thecunninglinguist · « **Reply #42 on:** September 07, 2021, 01:13:11 am »

Quote from: One Eyed Snake on September 06, 2021, 11:33:29 pm

I reckon he’s taking the piss out of you all.

100% agree. Either the story has been exaggerated or its not the whole one. He has not been "robbed" of other than getting his end away, probably again? Sounds like there is a civil dispute over a debt. As paying for sex is not illegal, there can be a debt, even if the full contracted service was not met. The only crime, if there is one, would be one of malicious communication by the bf/pimp whatever, as it was over the phone. He is probably upset because the police told him how many beans make five and he didn't like it.

myothernameis · « **Reply #43 on:** September 07, 2021, 01:59:41 am »

Quote from: scutty brown on September 06, 2021, 08:44:32 pm

Paying for sex is illegal if the girl is forced or under duress. Did the police think that was the case?

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 04:49:31 pm

I met a scam girl on sugardaddymeet.com site.

Did the op tell the police, he was meeting the girl from sugardaddy, and maybe the officer thought the girl might be under age

punt2015 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 07, 2021, 08:27:22 am »

Quote from: myothernameis on September 07, 2021, 01:59:41 am

Did the op tell the police, he was meeting the girl from sugardaddy, and maybe the officer thought the girl might be under age

First thing i told the police officer that i met the girl through sugardaddymeet.com and his reply was "its probably an escorts site". I reported to the police just because i was getting life threats.

sir wanksalot · « **Reply #45 on:** September 07, 2021, 08:39:27 am »

We have to take into consideration that the police (God bless them) will bend the truth, dare I say it, even lie, to try and get us to do what they want us to do.

I have recently discovered the trend on YouTube for "auditing" police stations and the interaction that then ensues and the lack of knowledge the police have about the law is astonishing

punt2015 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 07, 2021, 08:53:01 am »

Quote from: sir wanksalot on September 07, 2021, 08:39:27 am

We have to take into consideration that the police (God bless them) will bend the truth, dare I say it, even lie, to try and get us to do what they want us to do.

I have recently discovered the trend on YouTube for "auditing" police stations and the interaction that then ensues and the lack of knowledge the police have about the law is astonishing

I heard the recording again and the police officer sounded like he was very pissed off that why i reported to them the incident and basically he just wanted to close the case. He told me at the end that he is going to ring the culprit to tell him off not to threat me again and the case is closed.

My understanding is that giving me false warming by the officer in other words they tried to tell not to report anything in future to them.

daviemac · « **Reply #47 on:** September 07, 2021, 09:19:22 am »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 07, 2021, 08:53:01 am

I heard the recording again and the police officer sounded like he was very pissed off that why i reported to them the incident and basically he just wanted to close the case. He told me at the end that he is going to ring the culprit to tell him off not to threat me again and the case is closed.

My understanding is that giving me false warming by the officer in other words they tried to tell not to report anything in future to them.

Get in touch with the police again, tell them you have a complaint and ask to speak to an inspector. Make sure you get the name of whoever you speak to.

punt2015 · « **Reply #48 on:** September 07, 2021, 09:21:46 am »

Quote from: daviemac on September 07, 2021, 09:19:22 am

Get in touch with the police again, tell them you have a complaint and ask to speak to an inspector. Make sure you get the name of whoever you speak to.

Okay

SayLess · « **Reply #49 on:** September 07, 2021, 09:30:40 am »

Quote from: punt2015 on September 06, 2021, 09:39:25 pm

On sugardaddymeet.com her profile name meetsuphorny

I love how similar her profile name is to MeetUpsPhoney LOL

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Author Topic: Paying for sex police warning (Read 8597 times)