Finishing off BB...

[jcdmj12]

Years ago I used to bb a regular, anal too which was fantastic... Particularly fond memories of a bb duo with her friend.. Both up for ass to mouth and all sorts .. Luckily, never caught a thing. My risk/reward nowadays won't allow it.

And yet ironically, the older you are, the more likely you are to have died of something else before the time comes to pay the piper for your BB indulgences.

[jcdmj12]

I understand how they do it  It's the why they do it when they would otherwise charge for it IMO. I sometimes get extra 10 for OWO and extra 20 for a kiss, so I'd expect an extra 20 for bb if it were on offer. They must like you.

Or maybe really dislike you, depending on their current status.

[hendrix]

And yet ironically, the older you are, the more likely you are to have died of something else before the time comes to pay the piper for your BB indulgences.

I'll probably start asking for bb again when I'm 70!

[richie]

The last time I punted in oxford I went to see one of the usual five foot nothing, size 8, puffy titted little EE girls that work the cowley road area, made my appointment by text for OWO etc then called when I got there.

Nothing, no answer. Called again and got a rather sleepy sounding, piss poor English WG on the line "me ten minutes, yes?" Fine thinks I and I wait 10 minutes, get a text and the door opens as soon as I knock.

I was greeted by a stunning 5' 6" blonde with a toned body, almost perfect English and a beautifully perfect white smile! Bit different from the gap toothed fraggle I'd originally booked for a BJ 

Long story short it was her first day as she had arrived that morning, I was her first punter, and she did nothing without a condom on. Suffice to say it was the best bait and switch in existence and as she didn't do BB I was able to take full advantage 

As we were getting dressed and chatting she confirmed she was profile sharing until hers was set up so I told her exactly what the BB and without protection options meant so she could avoid ticking them. Not seen her profile in oxford area though since (or the original shared one) so I'm guessing she moved on and taken the fraggle with her 

We all know the profile sharing happens regularly so I'm wondering how may of the second, third, fourth hand users actually update the original likes list and how many actually just don't realise what they have posted against their names?

[CBPaul]

Or maybe really dislike you, depending on their current status.

What status 

[richie]

What status 

The status of her dirty rotten fanny I guess 

[mattylondon]

...could that be because more people are barebacking than care to admit it here? 

Perhaps I don't care either way and I'm happy for two consenting adults to do as they both please? And yes, my opinion on this has changed over the years.

As nobody on here can vouch for what a prossie or punter does with other people, just worry about yourself. 

[JV547845]

What ever do you use your second AW profile for matty.  hmmm....

[CBPaul]

The status of her dirty rotten fanny I guess 

I came to the same conclusion after a bit. And the same reaction 

So they either don't like me - so don't offer bb or they like me so much they are looking after me by not allowing exposure to Mary Jane Rotten Crotch. Either way I'm glad it hasn't been offered. 

[rolf32313]

To answer the original question, you risk profile increases the longer the BB act goes on. Assuming you are healthy (no open cuts or sores) then your risk from it sliding in for a few seconds is quite low, you have had a risk encounter but from HiV point of view it's low. So as the for "damage is done just get on with it", the dr part of my brain says NO get off immediately, stop the risk, and go see your Dr. the alpha-male part of my brain says it your a few strokes away... see it through:)

The general conclusion I've drawn is BB is becoming increasingly common in London as the supply of attractive girls keeps increasing where as the demand for them is probably quite stable. Thus to get the business you either need to offer bargain rates or more extreme services such as BB.
Their is an interesting paradox to this which was confirmed by one of my old regulars who one day started offering BB, to my despair. She worked in a house where most had BB on their profile (extra price) and said that since offering it her phone hadn't stopped ringing but the vast majority of men while talking the BB talk on the phone when they got down to the dead in person always wore a condom. Thus a lot of men fantasize about BBing the bad girl but wise up when it comes to doing the dead, obviously this is dangerous as sometimes you meet someone who doesn't understand the rules of the game and pops you in BB while in Auto pilot before you can back out of the BB deal and ask for a condom...

[potato]

Thus a lot of men fantasize about BBing the bad girl but wise up when it comes to doing the dead

Bit of a freudian slip there Rolf, but very appropriate in this discussion 

[stayer]

In the beginning - a long time ago - I had BB on three occasions in Soho walkups, but that's before I knew the risks. There was one other occasion which I remember in 1998 when I was in Manila at a mate's wedding celebration. I had a pretty 23-year-old in my bed. We started kissing, she then did OWO without asking and then mounted me. I quickly got the rubber on!

[danny.simons]

obviously this is dangerous as sometimes you meet someone who doesn't understand the rules of the game and pops you in BB while in Auto pilot before you can back out of the BB deal and ask for a condom...

To be honest, if you wanted to back out then back out before it gets to the stage where she is putting it in, otherwise if it is a service she offers then she is probably going to assume that you want to make use of it. Especially something like bareback as a lot of guys probably go to see her specifically for that service because plenty of other girls don't offer it.

[wristjob]

The general conclusion I've drawn is BB is becoming increasingly common in London as the supply of attractive girls keeps increasing where as the demand for them is probably quite stable. Thus to get the business you either need to offer bargain rates or more extreme services such as BB.
Their is an interesting paradox to this which was confirmed by one of my old regulars who one day started offering BB, to my despair. She worked in a house where most had BB on their profile (extra price) and said that since offering it her phone hadn't stopped ringing but the vast majority of men while talking the BB talk on the phone when they got down to the dead in person always wore a condom. Thus a lot of men fantasize about BBing the bad girl but wise up when it comes to doing the dead, obviously this is dangerous as sometimes you meet someone who doesn't understand the rules of the game and pops you in BB while in Auto pilot before you can back out of the BB deal and ask for a condom...

Excellent post.

First yeah why don't some of those London babes move around a bit. It is more for a really hot babe in many parts of the country.

A guy on a Sheffield based forum went to live in London a while back. He says he gets offered BB most the time in London.

Back to my first post - fantacists who have no intention of bareback but stack the odd for it to happen "accidentally"

[ciscoxxx69]

The last time I punted in oxford I went to see one of the usual five foot nothing, size 8, puffy titted little EE girls that work the cowley road area, made my appointment by text for OWO etc then called when I got there.

Nothing, no answer. Called again and got a rather sleepy sounding, piss poor English WG on the line "me ten minutes, yes?" Fine thinks I and I wait 10 minutes, get a text and the door opens as soon as I knock.

I was greeted by a stunning 5' 6" blonde with a toned body, almost perfect English and a beautifully perfect white smile! Bit different from the gap toothed fraggle I'd originally booked for a BJ 

Long story short it was her first day as she had arrived that morning, I was her first punter, and she did nothing without a condom on. Suffice to say it was the best bait and switch in existence and as she didn't do BB I was able to take full advantage 

As we were getting dressed and chatting she confirmed she was profile sharing until hers was set up so I told her exactly what the BB and without protection options meant so she could avoid ticking them. Not seen her profile in oxford area though since (or the original shared one) so I'm guessing she moved on and taken the fraggle with her 

We all know the profile sharing happens regularly so I'm wondering how may of the second, third, fourth hand users actually update the original likes list and how many actually just don't realise what they have posted against their names?

Good post Richie - very interesting. This profile swapping is a nightmare to second guess, as they are all at it.
I have noticed this myself over the (nearly) two years I have been enjoying this hobby.
A number of girls I have seen, left AW FB on and who have left FB on me, aren't now the girls on the profile I met......
I can't give any specifics cos the profiles are disappearing and then turning up again all the time, but they are not girls that all work out of the same house. They are Indies who are mostly girls charging £150ph - not EE's all working out of one house.
The point is you just can't tell whose profile is whose in a lot of cases....

[Daffodil]

To answer the original question, you risk profile increases the longer the BB act goes on. Assuming you are healthy (no open cuts or sores) then your risk from it sliding in for a few seconds is quite low, you have had a risk encounter but from HiV point of view it's low. So as the for "damage is done just get on with it", the dr part of my brain says NO get off immediately, stop the risk, and go see your Dr. the alpha-male part of my brain says it your a few strokes away... see it through:)

The general conclusion I've drawn is BB is becoming increasingly common in London as the supply of attractive girls keeps increasing where as the demand for them is probably quite stable. Thus to get the business you either need to offer bargain rates or more extreme services such as BB.
Their is an interesting paradox to this which was confirmed by one of my old regulars who one day started offering BB, to my despair. She worked in a house where most had BB on their profile (extra price) and said that since offering it her phone hadn't stopped ringing but the vast majority of men while talking the BB talk on the phone when they got down to the dead in person always wore a condom. Thus a lot of men fantasize about BBing the bad girl but wise up when it comes to doing the dead, obviously this is dangerous as sometimes you meet someone who doesn't understand the rules of the game and pops you in BB while in Auto pilot before you can back out of the BB deal and ask for a condom...

Considering you seem to forever be making the point that you're a doctor, I would say your use of English, spelling, and grammar is pretty poor.

It's not just this post, but you don't seem to understand the difference between there and their and your and you're. You spell deed as dead (twice, so unlikely a typo) and I've seen you spell amateur as armature and lose as loose.

I'm not a grammar Nazi, but it does make me question your claims that you are a doctor and I would advise others to do the same. Just because he says he's a doctor doesn't make it so and I wouldn't put more stock in his advice than anybody else's 

[JV547845]

Shut up daffodil.  Doctors are famous for shit hand writing and poor spelling.

[Daffodil]

Shut up daffodil.  Doctors are famous for shit hand writing and poor spelling.

Shit handwriting is not really an issue when you're using a keyboard 

[mattylondon]

Shit handwriting is not really an issue when you're using a keyboard 

You're being unfair. Cut him some slack Daff...his meds are wearing off! 

[JV547845]

Shit handwriting is not really an issue when you're using a keyboard 

Doctors are busy people with better things to do then get every bit of writing on the internet perfect to impress pedants with nothing better to do like yourself. 

[Daffodil]

Doctors are busy people with better things to do then get every bit of writing on the internet perfect to impress pedants with nothing better to do like yourself.

It shows a lack of education, not what you'd expect of a doctor.

Sounds like you're just happy to take the word of an anonymous poster on an anonymous Internet forum 

So a new poster turns up, claims to be a doctor, fools like you fawn over him, and yet he doesn't seem to know the difference between there and their, your and you're, dead and deed, and amateur and armature. These are not errors that can simply be attributed to being in a rush and he can't be that busy as he's posting here in the first place.

I don't pick people up on their spelling and grammar for the sake of it, I'm simply pointing out that a poster who is unable to write and spell correctly is claiming to be a doctor. If you still want to take all of his medical advice as gospel then you're a fool...or perhaps an "armature"

And the joke about doctors is purely that their writing is messy, not that they can't spell 

[JV547845]

His specialist knowledge checks out and demonstrates his expertise, therefore I take his word over yours.  As far as I know you're just some bloke who pays for sex.

[Daffodil]

His specialist knowledge checks out and demonstrates his expertise, therefore I take his word over yours.  As far as I know you're just some bloke who pays for sex.

That is all I am to you  And anybody who just volunteers real world information (like their profession, especially when it's a potentially sensitive one) should be treated with caution.

His 'specialist knowledge' is all there on the internet for you to see, or be told at your GUM clinic.

If you want to take, without question, the advice of a 'doctor' on an anonymous internet forum who can't even spell then I think you have a lot more to fear in life than STDs. Like crossing the road for example 

[JV547845]

You're assuming a lot.  I did question his advice and it checked out.  Spelling mistakes don't mean shit, otherwise please tell us your secret Captain Perfect?

[Daffodil]

You're assuming a lot.  I did question his advice and it checked out.  Spelling mistakes don't mean shit, otherwise please tell us your secret Captain Perfect?

I'm not claiming to be a doctor on a forum for people who seek prostitutes 

For anybody with more sense than JV, please be careful taking the advice of a 'doctor' who can't spell 

[rolf32313]

I'm not claiming to be a doctor on a forum for people who seek prostitutes 

For anybody with more sense than JV, please be careful taking the advice of a 'doctor' who can't spell 

I want to make something very clear, if your looking for specific advice or are worried about something in particular, you should always get it from your own doctor. Their are so many variables which your GP would know about and could base his advise on that no one on-line could ever known about.

As for my spelling and grammar, Welcome to the modern NHS! I think if checking what you have written for grammar and auto correct mistakes was a requirement to practise then while the budget issues would go away, the waiting lists would be massive.

[Daffodil]

I want to make something very clear, if your looking for specific advice or are worried about something in particular, you should always get it from your own doctor. Their are so many variables which your GP would know about and could base his advise on that no one on-line could ever known about.

As for my spelling and grammar, Welcome to the modern NHS! I think if checking what you have written for grammar and auto correct mistakes was a requirement to practise then while the budget issues would go away, the waiting lists would be massive.

Nonsense, you're a fraud 

You can't spell and you think we'll just take your word for the fact that you were even accepted into medical school? 

[rolf32313]

Nonsense, you're a fraud 

You can't spell and you think we'll just take your word for the fact that you were even accepted into medical school? 

I think you need to get a reality check, I'm not here to offer you advise, I'm I've never set up a "contact me for Medical advise" stall. In fact if anyone did PM me for such the only advice I would give them is go see your GP.

[rolf32313]

I should have added just to be clear and hopefully end this nonsense off-topic direction you have taken this thread, I'm not here to impress or insult you or anyone for that matter. To be honest I'm only here for the info and gossip and funny stuff many post here.

[Frenchie]

......and I can't spell  ADVICE   !!!!!!!!!!

Only read the last page of this posting ... sorry .. couldn't resist it

[Frenchie]

Sorry - now read the third page ......now waving a white flag   

[ciscoxxx69]

Never had anyone attempt to BB me or ever offer it, thank fuck!
I have had a couple of instances where the condom has come off during sex, but only as I have withdrawn.....I go regularly to the GUM clinic and so far no issues.

As a matter of related interest, I am amazed at how many girls (not just EE) are now offering BB 
My normal default search on AW for the area I live in has 'dislike BB' checked.
Everyday this week, I have done a comparative search ( BB vs no BB)
On average, 33% of girls with Available Today were offering BB !
That is 7 out of 21, averaged for Mon, Tues, Weds......just Mental.
I think it may suggest that there are more guys out there wanting BB than care to admit it....

Reading Area BareBack Watch!
This morning: 7:45am
Total number of girls Available Today (thus far) - 14
Barebackers - 8
Non BB - 6
WTF? 

[Mij]

Reading Area BareBack Watch!
This morning: 7:45am
Total number of girls Available Today (thus far) - 14
Barebackers - 8
Non BB - 6
WTF? 

Bristol 19 available, 0 with BB
Plymouth 18 available,  3 with BB

Obviously hasn't spread this far out of London yet ;-)

....saying that, twice in the last year in Bristol the wg I was with tried to BB me before I stopped her. Both were EE. Both didn't have BB on their likes. Suspect, as others have already said, that it's more common than advertised or admitted.

[JamesKW]

I want to make something very clear, if your looking for specific advice or are worried about something in particular, you should always get it from your own doctor. Their are so many variables which your GP would know about and could base his advise on that no one on-line could ever known about.

As for my spelling and grammar, Welcome to the modern NHS! I think if checking what you have written for grammar and auto correct mistakes was a requirement to practise then while the budget issues would go away, the waiting lists would be massive.

You are still getting the difference between there and their wrong even after it was pointed out,this is primary school English and nothing to do with the modern NHS,no one would give their career away on a punting forum.

[touch.and.go]

Bristol 19 available, 0 with BB
Plymouth 18 available,  3 with BB

Obviously hasn't spread this far out of London yet ;-)

....saying that, twice in the last year in Bristol the wg I was with tried to BB me before I stopped her. Both were EE. Both didn't have BB on their likes. Suspect, as others have already said, that it's more common than advertised or admitted.

Another reason I prefer non-EE girls 

[jonalpha]

No-one likes putting a rubber on - it spoils the flow of events etc etc but I never have and never would BB with a WG.

An experienced WG putting a rubber on me is something I find quite sexy.

[Horizontal pleasures]

An experienced WG putting a rubber on me is something I find quite sexy.

y u c k

[rolf32313]

y u c k

I'm with you, I think there is nothing sexier than a lady using their hand to guiding it in bb. Sadly something in my brain say WTF do you think your doing and stops this happening nowadays and we go back to the very unsexy wrapping of the marrow...

[ciscoxxx69]

An experienced WG putting a rubber on me is something I find quite sexy.

Especially when they do it with their mouth.....
Laura Super Star, Izabella (LMP), Sexy Leticia for You, GFLara, to name just a few .......

[SeekingtheTruth]

Damn you Daff, now that you've mentioned it I can't help but notice all the spelling and grammatical errors. It's like each one is slapping me in the face.

Please, rolf32313, proof read your posts. Shit like this:

I'm with you, I think there is nothing sexier than a lady using their hand to guiding it in bb. Sadly something in my brain say WTF do you think your doing and stops this happening nowadays and we go back to the very unsexy wrapping of the marrow...

doesn't help you, basic English man, basic English.

[punk]

Especially when they do it with their mouth.....
Laura Super Star, Izabella (LMP), Sexy Leticia for You, GFLara, to name just a few .......

i second that mouth to cock with a thin condom feels great

[Roland D Hay]

i second that mouth to cock with a thin condom feels great

Surely you meant cock to mouth? This way you ain't doing the sucking

[punk]

Surely you meant cock to mouth? This way you ain't doing the sucking

  be a miracle, i'm no ron jeremy 

[richie]

Considering you seem to forever be making the point that you're a doctor, I would say your use of English, spelling, and grammar is pretty poor.

It's not just this post, but you don't seem to understand the difference between there and their and your and you're. You spell deed as dead (twice, so unlikely a typo) and I've seen you spell amateur as armature and lose as loose.

I'm not a grammar Nazi, but it does make me question your claims that you are a doctor and I would advise others to do the same. Just because he says he's a doctor doesn't make it so and I wouldn't put more stock in his advice than anybody else's 

In regard to this and your other quite scathing remarks may I just point out that although I have a decent engineering degree I also make similar spelling and grammar mistakes. This is due to my dyslexia not my low level of education.

Is he a doctor? Is he not? No one knows except him and to be frank no one really cares however I do find the narrow mindedness of pedants like you quite offensive and is one of the major reasons I was held back so badly during my time in school.

Pedantic teachers with attitudes like yours confused a genuine disability with laziness and an unwillingness to learn proper English. It also accounts for their confusion over how/why I achieved so well in all other areas.

In short pedantry has a place however it is usually to be found in the attitude of a twat.

[Daffodil]

In regard to this and your other quite scathing remarks may I just point out that although I have a decent engineering degree I also make similar spelling and grammar mistakes. This is due to my dyslexia not my low level of education.

Is he a doctor? Is he not? No one knows except him knows and to be frank no one really cares however I do find the narrow mindedness of pedants like you quite offensive and is one of the major reasons I was held back so badly during my time in school.

Pedantic teachers with attitudes like yours confused a genuine disability with laziness and an unwillingness to learn proper English. It also accounts for their confusion over how/why I achieved so well in all other areas.

In short pedantry has a place however it is usually to be found in the attitude of a twat.

FFS, aren't we a sensitive soul? So nobody can criticise somebody's spelling or grammar incase somebody with dyslexia is reading or within earshot? Perhaps teachers shouldn't teach spelling incase a dyslexic takes offence?

I'm not hung up on grammar and spelling, but I think it's important to point out that an anonymous poster is claiming to be doctor whilst being unable to spell and giving out medical advice. That's the point 

[richie]

My point (as you obviously missed it) is pretty simple. Just because someone makes occasional spelling or grammar errors you can't assume them not to be a highly educated professional.

From personal experience however I can confirm that the vast majority of the pedants I have met over the years have also been utter morons and usually no where near as intelligent as they profess to be. Their pedantry appears to be simply the manner in which they compensate for their other failings.

[richie]

Regarding your other comments pertaining to dyslexics getting offended by criticism of spelling and grammar etc, they won't.

It is the link you make between the posters claimed level of education and his inability to spell correctly or use grammar in the right manner that is offensive. You are basically saying that if he can't spell perfectly then he can't possibly be educated well enough to be a doctor. Or alternatively "if you can't spell then you must be a bit thick."

It is this lack of understanding amongst not only the general public but also those working within the education system that causes problems.

Regarding his opinion as a doctor, I take it with a pinch of salt as I do every other posting anyone makes anonymously on the internet and I'd advise others to do the same. I fully except that everything he has posted as advice is available in much more depth elsewhere on the net and more importantly at your local GUM clinic so it wouldn't be impossible for any one of us to pass ourselves off as a doctor simply by using your computers cut and paste option.

Having said that he hasn't given me any cause to believe he's not qualified and as I don't know him I am inclined to believe what he says but reserve the right to apply mild scepticism to any posts he makes.

[Daffodil]

My point (as you obviously missed it) is pretty simple. Just because someone makes occasional spelling or grammar errors you can't assume them not to be a highly educated professional.

From personal experience however I can confirm that the vast majority of the pedants I have met over the years have also been utter morons and usually no where near as intelligent as they profess to be. Their pedantry appears to be simply the manner in which they compensate for their other failings.

So you're saying I'm not allowed to make assumptions about people who have bad spelling and grammar, but you are allowed to make them about people who have good spelling and grammar? And that your assumption is that they're "utter morons"? Riiiiight 

I think you might need to revisit your dyslexic diagnosis, perhaps you are just thick 

I would say that most doctors are probably able to differentiate between there and their and your and you're, although perhaps not all. Yes, it could be that this guy is in that minority, but in my opinion it's more likely that he's a fibber. Just as it's unlikely that a doctor would post that he is a doctor as it's something of a sensitive profession for a punter.

[jcdmj12]

So you're saying I'm not allowed to make assumptions about people who have bad spelling and grammar, but you are allowed to make them about people who have good spelling and grammar? And that your assumption is that they're "utter morons"? Riiiiight 

I think you might need to revisit your dyslexic diagnosis, perhaps you are just thick 

I would say that most doctors are probably able to differentiate between there and their and your and you're, although perhaps not all. Yes, it could be that this guy is in that minority, but in my opinion it's more likely that he's a fibber. Just as it's unlikely that a doctor would post that he is a doctor as it's something of a sensitive profession for a punter.

I don't know anything about Rolf, but I know plenty of doctors.  Very few of them have decent written English. They are doctors, not writers.  He has also displayed more credible medical knowledge than anyone else I've seen on this forum.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Regarding his opinion as a doctor, I take it with a pinch of salt as I do every other posting anyone makes anonymously on the internet and I'd advise others to do the same. I fully except that everything he has posted as advice is available in much more depth elsewhere on the net ...

your post made me laugh

Regarding his opinion as a doctor, I take it with a pinch of salt as I do every other posting anyone makes anonymously on the internet and I'd advise others to do the same. I fully accept that everything he has posted as advice is available in much more depth elsewhere on the net