Why has it become such a chore?

[Poopster]

Girl 1.
Contacted her enquiring as to her availability.  She replies, she's available.  I ask if I can make a booking.  Radio silence.

Girl 2.
Booking arranged, great!  24hrs before the booking, contact from her to say she's unavailable.

Girl 3.
Booking arranged, great!  I send her a quick message before I leave just to confirm, she replies, everything is good.  While on my way to her, I received half a dozen messages asking if I'm still coming, when will I be there, telling me she needed an answer as she's had too many timewasters, calling me a timewaster, threatening to block me and share my number around.  Of course, I don't see this shit until I'm outside her place.  Fuck me, she seems like hard work, I drive off. 

Girl 4.
Booking arranged, great!  I pick a few things from her likes list and ask for those in the booking... we have two hours to fill, I'm not going to just settle for a quick gobble and a ride then an hour and a half of lovely chat.  Message read, message deleted.  Cool, she's blocked me.


Why has punting become such a fucking chore?  I'd have thought that a year and a half of lockdown and sneaking around, keeping the work low-key would have created a situation where women would be keen to capitalise on their newly-found freedom to see punters and make it a good experience.  Those are my last four experiences, why the hell has it become so hard?

[Matrix]

Are you sure it's not just Fife? 

[Poopster]

Please, have you looked at the state of Fife recently??  Only one of those was a Fifer... 

[Subboy1980]

Girl 1.
Contacted her enquiring as to her availability.  She replies, she's available.  I ask if I can make a booking.  Radio silence.

Girl 2.
Booking arranged, great!  24hrs before the booking, contact from her to say she's unavailable.

Girl 3.
Booking arranged, great!  I send her a quick message before I leave just to confirm, she replies, everything is good.  While on my way to her, I received half a dozen messages asking if I'm still coming, when will I be there, telling me she needed an answer as she's had too many timewasters, calling me a timewaster, threatening to block me and share my number around.  Of course, I don't see this shit until I'm outside her place.  Fuck me, she seems like hard work, I drive off. 

Girl 4.
Booking arranged, great!  I pick a few things from her likes list and ask for those in the booking... we have two hours to fill, I'm not going to just settle for a quick gobble and a ride then an hour and a half of lovely chat.  Message read, message deleted.  Cool, she's blocked me.


Why has punting become such a fucking chore?  I'd have thought that a year and a half of lockdown and sneaking around, keeping the work low-key would have created a situation where women would be keen to capitalise on their newly-found freedom to see punters and make it a good experience.  Those are my last four experiences, why the hell has it become so hard?

I know mate.  I think many of the wgs who were good have gone on to do other things.  Im guessing maybe they only see good regular clients on the side to keep them ticking by.  As mentioned im going to the saunas so who cares.

[Matrix]

Please, have you looked at the state of Fife recently??  Only one of those was a Fifer... 

Everyday, but from the safety of opposite side of the Forth.

[Trickus]

Please, have you looked at the state of Fife recently??  Only one of those was a Fifer... 

Things are looking up on this site as the Poopster is back with a vengeance

[Clattypats]

Please, have you looked at the state of Fife recently??  Only one of those was a Fifer... 

Nice to see you back poopster...

[bluetable]

Same rigamarole in Aberdeen lately too, messed around by two different girls, both touring.  ONe even agreed a booking, then pulled her phone number off AW, seemed to delete her profile (it's back now offering outcalls today), but now £40 more an hour.  Really offputting.

[Poopster]

Nice to see you back poopster...

   evening Clatty

[J_H]

Nice to see you back poopster...

+1.

[djng6]

In my opinion its not just punting, it's women in general are much harder work these days due to all the options they now have online. Everyone is now online so there is always a better option or client for them around the corner. The ratio of men to women on online services sites must be through the roof. It never used to be so hard to find a good WG 5 to 10 years ago

[Clattypats]

In my opinion its not just punting, it's women in general are much harder work these days due to all the options they now have online. Everyone is now online so there is always a better option or client for them around the corner. The ratio of men to women on online services sites must be through the roof. It never used to be so hard to find a good WG 5 to 10 years ago

I don't quite know what you mean by that...Do you mean OF? Don't think Glasgow is brilliant right now either, bar a couple of WGs I've seen regularly over the years which is always good 

Newbies/tourers not so much from what I've seen to date...
 

[DickDiver]

I still check in here looking for a gem, but the pandemic seems to have broken my habit. Always going into a punt excited but prepared for disappointment was exhausting, but the thought of inhaling the Rona on top of bad behaviour and shit fuckery is not the one to give me the horn.

[PolwarthPervert]

In my opinion its not just punting, it's women in general are much harder work these days due to all the options they now have online. Everyone is now online so there is always a better option or client for them around the corner. The ratio of men to women on online services sites must be through the roof. It never used to be so hard to find a good WG 5 to 10 years ago

Think that might be on to something, so many different ways of getting money out of your body now. OF and even Insta, there are 'Social Media Influencers' who basically are fit as but have so many follower so they get everything for free.

[fedor]

Yeah its changed days for sure. £100-150hh and £200ph isn't even that unusual, it actually seems to be coming the norm  . And then you add in the WGs that used to provide a great service but now don't even provide the likes of OWO but STILL put their prices up.

Tbh I've bowed out of it all and have no real desire to return, though I guess never say never and I still like to log in and read the banter. 

[ComeAgain]

Why has punting become such a fucking chore?  I'd have thought that a year and a half of lockdown and sneaking around, keeping the work low-key would have created a situation where women would be keen to capitalise on their newly-found freedom to see punters and make it a good experience.  Those are my last four experiences, why the hell has it become so hard?

....and the prices that they feel they can charge??? Some folks are obviously paying these highly inflated prices otherwise they wouldnt feel that they would get away with it. Saunas are beginning to make a comeback as the poor-man's option.

[Papertrail2019]

....and the prices that they feel they can charge??? Some folks are obviously paying these highly inflated prices otherwise they wouldnt feel that they would get away with it. Saunas are beginning to make a comeback as the poor-man's option.

I wouldn't say saunas are a 'poor man's option', it's just a better option all round. More variety of girls, reasonable price and usually offer a better service however find it a bit annoying with all the extras i.e. £10 for owo, £10 for an extra pop, etc. Understand what you mean though, even if the service isn't great you won't feel it in your pocket as much.

These inflated prices though nothing we can do apart from avoiding them, it's not like there is a consumer watchdog for escorts lol! For example look at these current tourers charging these extortionate prices, 1st two you have to pay extra for owo so its over £200 for an hour, the 3rd charging so £220 ph because she's got a few AW awards and since the 4th one is touring with the 3rd one she feels she can charge £200:

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[Easygoingdude]

I wonder who is paying those prices.....as assume some guys are or they wouldn't be touring here 

P.S. The 4th one is an Edinburger SP and from noting her profile before seems to be her going rate.

[Forthports]

If you really want to go big, Abigail Lexington is in Edinburgh later this month.

£400 an hour.

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[bluetable]

These inflated prices though nothing we can do apart from avoiding them, it's not like there is a consumer watchdog for escorts lol! For example look at these current tourers charging these extortionate prices, 1st two you have to pay extra for owo so its over £200 for an hour, the 3rd charging so £220 ph because she's got a few AW awards and since the 4th one is touring with the 3rd one she feels she can charge £200:

Those prices would be just fine with me if they included filming so I could take a momento home with me, but they charge stupid extra costs for it!  I hope once COIVD dies down things will go back to more normal pricing.

[filthyscotslover]

Im just dipping my toe back in after doing a few punts when i was younger. Some girls are delusional imo. Of course they can charge what they want but im guessing they have dusty phones. A smart escort who knows they provide a good service could just go £100 per hour and she would rake it in. From a financial point of view, might be worth it putting your math hat on and doing the numbers regarding how much your spending/punting locally compared to how much a few days over to Germany for a FKK shagathon. Get to see the girls up close before you pick too

[Name Not Found]

Like any other market, there are enough guys with wads of spare cash to throw at the glamorous WG's to keep them busy. It may only be a small percentage of the market, but it's a high percentage of the spend. You may look on horrified as some girls charge 400 for a meeting; others may just see that as an indicator of a top-quality girl.

If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I'd probably go to the top end of the market too.

[Subboy1980]

Like any other market, there are enough guys with wads of spare cash to throw at the glamorous WG's to keep them busy. It may only be a small percentage of the market, but it's a high percentage of the spend. You may look on horrified as some girls charge 400 for a meeting; others may just see that as an indicator of a top-quality girl.

If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I'd probably go to the top end of the market too.

Yes and also I wonder how many punters out there who are unaware of this forum and have no idea about the prices wgs are  hiking them up by.  They must be getting guys out there paying some of these obscene rates otherwise they wouldn't continue to charge these rates.  £220 an hour ffs!  I had a wee look at the "pink" site of the wg and it gave me a proper perspective of mugs out there paying £2000 for an over night ffs!  Mind bogling.

[fedor]

Yes and also I wonder how many punters out there who are unaware of this forum and have no idea about the prices wgs are  hiking them up by.  They must be getting guys out there paying some of these obscene rates otherwise they wouldn't continue to charge these rates.  £220 an hour ffs!  I had a wee look at the "pink" site of the wg and it gave me a proper perspective of mugs out there paying £2000 for an over night ffs!  Mind bogling.

Especially when you get absolutely stunning girls on seeking that will do a full evening/overnight for £200-300.

[Name Not Found]

Especially when you get absolutely stunning girls on seeking that will do a full evening/overnight for £200-300.

Seems to require a helluva lot of effort to find one of them though, and trawling through endless fakes and scammers. I don't think I can be bothered.

[fedor]

Seems to require a helluva lot of effort to find one of them though, and trawling through endless fakes and scammers. I don't think I can be bothered.

Not been near it for ages tbh, and yeah even before lockdown it was a bit hit or miss. But the potential is there. I used to meet one girl a lot, nice girl, super good looking, and overnights for a fraction of what it would cost on AW.

[Asian guy]

I was looking for a meet tonight. No one from gea after 5pm. The 2 on aw I have tried didnt answer the call or reply to the text.

Must just be office hours these girls work now 

[Subboy1980]

I was looking for a meet tonight. No one from gea after 5pm. The 2 on aw I have tried didnt answer the call or reply to the text.

Must just be office hours these girls work now 

Due to covid and lockdown a lot of them don't need new punters because they will only see regulars.

[seeker]

Especially when you get absolutely stunning girls on seeking that will do a full evening/overnight for £200-300.

Seeking is only good for single guys ,
who have loads of time to waste .

[Clattypats]

Seeking is only good for single guys ,
who have loads of time to waste .

I agree to an extent  I don't have the time nor the patience for any of it... Not always a Sugar Daddy thing, but near enough...

Make a booking, keep it simple. That does me. 

[Davie081980]

Is there anyone left in Glasgow that does answer the phone/not take the piss with prices and is worth a trip? Tried about a dozen in the last few weeks and still waiting for a meet.

[Problem Child]

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[casio]

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[Marmalade]

I’m not quite sure how relevant it is, but not that long before the pandemic, the industry, especially Edinburgh, was recovering from the effects of the brash gay police chief that tried to get rid of saunas and also a police campaign against independents that forced them to move premises too often. Before that, there was an almost happy go lucky attitude where students would prossie for a few terms. No big deal if they didn’t get caught, but police harassment simply helped to push them out and open up the market to Romanian pimps and similar. It was no longer ‘a bit of extra cash’ but more like ‘running the gauntlet’. In Edinburgh, the student scene practically disappeared. I was walking past an old venue recently after a drinking session and almost remarked that there used to be a nice student whorehouse in the block we were passing.

When it’s a hard-nosed attitude from p4ps, it inevitably runs off on the client. Some casual paid-for fun turns into a scrimping business deal. The pandemic just raises anxieties further, favouring not those who do it for a ‘bit of extra cash’ but those who are locked into a necessary business plan. When it’s hard work for them, it’s hard work for us.

[willie loman]

I’m not quite sure how relevant it is, but not that long before the pandemic, the industry, especially Edinburgh, was recovering from the effects of the brash gay police chief that tried to get rid of saunas and also a police campaign against independents that forced them to move premises too often. Before that, there was an almost happy go lucky attitude where students would prossie for a few terms. No big deal if they didn’t get caught, but police harassment simply helped to push them out and open up the market to Romanian pimps and similar. It was no longer ‘a bit of extra cash’ but more like ‘running the gauntlet’. In Edinburgh, the student scene practically disappeared. I was walking past an old venue recently after a drinking session and almost remarked that there used to be a nice student whorehouse in the block we were passing.

When it’s a hard-nosed attitude from p4ps, it inevitably runs off on the client. Some casual paid-for fun turns into a scrimping business deal. The pandemic just raises anxieties further, favouring not those who do it for a ‘bit of extra cash’ but those who are locked into a necessary business plan. When it’s hard work for them, it’s hard work for us.

i would suggest that the student whores didnt throw in the towel because of police harassment, but they just moved onto seeking arrangements etc, there has been no real harassment of saunas or flats in my experience, did they even close for one day?

[Marmalade]

i would suggest that the student whores didnt throw in the towel because of police harassment, but they just moved onto seeking arrangements etc, there has been no real harassment of saunas or flats in my experience, did they even close for one day?

Willie you must have been blind to miss the harassment period. I’m sure there’s plenty on the forum about it. As for the students, I only know of one that carried on. She had had to move flat many times.

[willie loman]

Willie you must have been blind to miss the harassment period. I’m sure there’s plenty on the forum about it. As for the students, I only know of one that carried on. She had had to move flat many times.

if a working flat is too blatant, multiple girls, a common stair, they might get a visit, if the neighbours complain, but most girls are left to get on with it, as for the sauna raids, its was obvious within a day or 2 that they had backfired, the evening news, scotsman etc supporting the saunas, i posted at the time, that there was no threat, and was quickly vindicated.

[Marmalade]

if a working flat is too blatant, multiple girls, a common stair, they might get a visit, if the neighbours complain, but most girls are left to get on with it, as for the sauna raids, its was obvious within a day or 2 that they had backfired, the evening news, scotsman etc supporting the saunas, i posted at the time, that there was no threat, and was quickly vindicated.

I think you know well what I mean, Willie. Newtown girls were made to stand for hours outside in their working clothes (ie underwear) and it was a cold day. They had their phones and money confiscated leaving some of them desperate. The manager was among the casualties. The students got pushed out of their flats one way or another at Gorgie and then both of the Meadowbank flats, only one of which was a stair. I could go on at length how that happened as they told me, but as I understand it you wouldn’t have visited them anyway as you only use saunas.

[willie loman]

I think you know well what I mean, Willie. Newtown girls were made to stand for hours outside in their working clothes (ie underwear) and it was a cold day. They had their phones and money confiscated leaving some of them desperate. The manager was among the casualties. The students got pushed out of their flats one way or another at Gorgie and then both of the Meadowbank flats, only one of which was a stair. I could go on at length how that happened as they told me, but as I understand it you wouldn’t have visited them anyway as you only use saunas.

i dont know which manager lost his job, the raids caused a behind the scenes rejig, with william keeping a low profile, and a separation of blair st and the new town,it was one raid , one day, and the subsequent publicity was no doubt a welcome boost, as for the flats, student girls come an go, there is often the odd student in the saunas, and although i dont visit flats much for sex,ive been to 4 in the last 3 months, allana, paula, zoe 24, samantha i know a few girls who work the flats, they are never remotely bothered about the police, its their neighbours they worry about. i had you down as a man of the world,i dont believe for one minute the girls were standing about in their underwear in hart st, and am surprised you swallowed that guff.

[Marmalade]

I’m not going to keep arguing with you Willie Loman. I just post things I know. I saw the girls in their nighties standing outside in the freezing fucking cold. I went past a couple of times and their ordeal wasn’t quick either. As I said I just post things I know. If anyone wants to believe me or not that’s up to them. Most people that have been on here a few years seem to know that about me.

 

[willie loman]

I’m not going to keep arguing with you Willie Loman. I just post things I know. I saw the girls in their nighties standing outside in the freezing fucking cold. I went past a couple of times and their ordeal wasn’t quick either. As I said I just post things I know. If anyone wants to believe me or not that’s up to them. Most people that have been on here a few years seem to know that about me.

 

curious how you went past that day? i have never seen a girl from the new town go for a fag break, without putting her parka on. your sounding off as if it was the round up at the warsaw ghetto.

[Marmalade]

curious how you went past that day? i have never seen a girl from the new town go for a fag break, without putting her parka on. your sounding off as if it was the round up at the warsaw ghetto.

The first was accidental, just taking a short cut. The second time was curiosity. I stopped and spoke to them briefly without going down the steps. The police had herded them outside just as they were, apparently so they could search everything including their belongings. I guess that must have included their ‘parkas’. They were not allowed to go back in until the police had finished. (Not sounding off, just stating facts).

[willie loman]

The first was accidental, just taking a short cut. The second time was curiosity. I stopped and spoke to them briefly without going down the steps. The police had herded them outside just as they were, apparently so they could search everything including their belongings. I guess that must have included their ‘parkas’. They were not allowed to go back in until the police had finished. (Not sounding off, just stating facts).

ok even if they had to stand under a cold shower for 20 minutes etc, it was one day, a raid that actually backfired b adly for the lothian police, it was not a campaign of harassment, and was ironically very beneficial for the saunas, who are now in a more or less bombproof position.

[Name Not Found]

ok even if they had to stand under a cold shower for 20 minutes etc, it was one day, a raid that actually backfired b adly for the lothian police, it was not a campaign of harassment, and was ironically very beneficial for the saunas, who are now in a more or less bombproof position.

Bloody hell Willie; you could start an argument in an empty room.     I do remember talking to 'student' girls about a campaign of harassment that was pissing them off, and some of them subsequently disappeared from the business in short order, so I think Marmalade maybe knows what he's on about. I know less about the harassment of the sauna girls (apart from the fact that it was high profile in the press, short-lived, and ineffective) but, if the man says he saw it with his own eyes, I'd tend to believe him.

[WillD83]

Those are my last four experiences, why the hell has it become so hard?

Mate I've been finding it bad in Glasgow lately. I lined up 3 girls yesterday for lunchtime today (didn't commit just got availability to make sure I could nail down one this morning). Still haven't heard from any of them today despite enquiring again. Scunnered.

[guttyboy]

It is getting harder. Against my better nature, I contacted a Brazilian in Embra who was well reviewed. Received a long text reply that had various rules including 'no over-50's' I could have ignored it but felt suitably put out and moved on.

[Name Not Found]

Is it really any surprise things are getting worse?

Low unemployment, shortages of people, pandemic, skyrocketing hotel prices, travel problems, Brexit..... the WG market has supply-chain problems just the same as the vegetables in your local Tescos 

Still, that's no excuse for bad attitudes, but, when demand outstrips supply by such a large margin, girls just, don't need to try so hard.

[djng6]

Is it really any surprise things are getting worse?

Low unemployment, shortages of people, pandemic, skyrocketing hotel prices, travel problems, Brexit..... the WG market has supply-chain problems just the same as the vegetables in your local Tescos 

Still, that's no excuse for bad attitudes, but, when demand outstrips supply by such a large margin, girls just, don't need to try so hard.

This makes a lot of sense