Seeking Arrangement

[WillsonH]

I haven't seen much discussion of SA in Wales - I can barely believe there are no SugarDaddies around, and I know full well there are SugarBabes to be had here

My first question is, how do you arrange accommodation?

I'm in north Wales, and there are no DayUse hotels in my area - closest are right on the border or just over in Chester

If the girl's over that way, it's OK, but however do you SDs in Penllyn, or Meirionnydd do? V lucky if you or the girl can host, but what if not? AirBnB, or have to pay an overnight tariff at a hotel for a couple of hours afternoon fun?

I'm sure there are many more questions and comments relating to SA fun in Wales (not really looking for reviews), so try and keep them together and post them here

[justalad]

I have zero interest in SA.

[Eriksen_Xx]

Ummm, surely genuine Sugar Daddies are quite wealthy and don’t really need to worry about how much a hotel costs?

[WillsonH]

Ummm, surely genuine Sugar Daddies are quite wealthy and don’t really need to worry about how much a hotel costs?

Not all sugardaddies are especially wealthy. I'm comfortably off, and can afford to treat myself when the opportunity arises

No one - even wealthy people, want to waste money, and I'd say a £150 overnight booking if you're only going to use the room for a couple of hours in the afternoon, is not good value

If you look at the general seeking thread you'll see that a PPM for a Sugarbabe, lets say outside the big cities, maybe between 150 to 250. Monthly allowance, if things go that far, something around 500 to 600. Which would be doable for me, and I'm not loaded by any means

Great thing is, that if you get the right girl, the overall SA experience is hugely better than with a professional WG (imo)

I hope some experienced SDs join this thread, as I certainly don't have the answers to all (even many) of the questions!

[manintheroom]

Extensively covered about 2 yrs ago in off topic I think

[southcoastpunter]

Not in your region so hopefully you don't mind me joining your conversation.

would 100% agree with WillsonH about SD's. a few might be wealthy but from what i can see and have been told most are normal guys who financially are "comfortable". I have been on SA for 18 months now and have had a lot of fun (and sex) and yes have spent a fair bit on money but doing things i wanted to do.

If it would be "just for sex" then in my view, SA is not the place to go and won't be good basic value. I can accomodate so don't have to do hotels but when i have been away with a SA lady, we have sometimes stayed in a Travellodge and that has been perfectly ok. They don't have to be £150pn hotels. But the ladies and the sex is something else. There are a few WG's on SA and you tend to get a good WG response from them but the others, when you find the right ones, want to have a good time, be treated nice, and maybe taken to a nice restauant etc but they want to have sex with you. No pretending. In 18 months i have had sex with over 25 different ladies aged 19 to 34 and it has been amazing.

If you are thinking about it, have a go. But not if you are only interested getting a quick fu*k or if you are on a really tight budget. You won't get the best from it.

[WillsonH]

Not in your region so hopefully you don't mind me joining your conversation.

All that's what I mean! Thanks for chipping in

[Proton]

This happened in 2016 but we are still in contact     I was out walking in Cardiff and popped into to a pub about 3pm for a beer and food, the bar was virtually empty. There stood a student trying to make up her mind what to eat, I ordered a beer and also looked at the menu board over the bar. As she was still thinking, I made a joke of it being too much on offer and about the "two for one" on some of the meals. She replied "Only wanted water and a small vegetarian meal" so I joked we could have a two for one and I would pay which made her laugh in a really nice way, also having a lovely soft voice. In the end she had a tonic water proper veggy meal, I had my beer and a burger not thinking We chatted for ages as it was her first week in Cardiff, then she asked about places of interest in the area and nice beaches. After about two hours non stop chatting, she said "Would I mind if she had my number and could ask me about any other places during her University period" naturally I agreed. About a month later I received her phone call asking about Castell Coch, I told her all she wanted to know and said I there were great walks around there. Then to my surprise she suggested to met in the car park, we went around the little castle then up the hill for a lovely chatty woods walk. That was the beginning for us morphing into a nearly 3 years of sheer unbelievable sexually mutual benefits. I've happily given her about £20K and a small car, so she could drive to me anytime so we could have sex most weeks at my place for a few hours. Her life was always interesting, with the family in Sussex, her University studies and social life, never a dull moment. I felt on top of the world with her in Cardiff being around & about to come here, which she did. Now thanks to WhatsApp still at her patients place, she often calls for a nice quiet chat and the car is still going well giving her freedom, there has been a few discreet weekend visits since.

                                                                                  Not sure if I fit your criteria, but hopefully it makes sense,  As I've never thought of myself as a Sugar Daddy before

[WillsonH]

All that's what I mean! Thanks for chipping in

Sounds very SD to me Good for you that it went so well

Did you come to a regular financial arrangement, or just treat her as and when?

[PMAC123]

I've had a good few meets off there. I have always gotten an Airbnb. You can get them as cheap as £80-£100 per night so price shouldn't really be a factor. Although I'm near Cardiff so it's super easy to find girls (and properties) nearby. I can see it being a lot harder when you're in a rural area with no sugarbabies nearby. You may need to go to a city and get them to come to you, only thing I can think of really.

If I was you I'd be looking at girls in Liverpool. Not very far past Chester, tons of hot girls compared to anywhere in Wales and tons of cheap accommodation too. Can even arrange multiple meets for a weekend and book 2 nights in the Airbnb to make a fiesta of it lol.

[Tafftoy]

I've used seeking a while ago very hit and miss but when you find a good one its great!
Not a paid member at the moment due to the covid! Hopefully will give it ago once things calm down.

[WillsonH]

I've had a good few meets off there. I have always gotten an Airbnb. You can get them as cheap as £80-£100 per night so price shouldn't really be a factor. Although I'm near Cardiff so it's super easy to find girls (and properties) nearby. I can see it being a lot harder when you're in a rural area with no sugarbabies nearby. You may need to go to a city and get them to come to you, only thing I can think of really.

If I was you I'd be looking at girls in Liverpool. Not very far past Chester, tons of hot girls compared to anywhere in Wales and tons of cheap accommodation too. Can even arrange multiple meets for a weekend and book 2 nights in the Airbnb to make a fiesta of it lol.

I l live in a touristy area so airbnbs and hotels are difficult to get atm and prices are inflated. After the end of September though, it should be a bit easier. Just seen some in Chester now for £37 a night, but two nights min booking at the mo which doesn't work for me

There are plenty of girls in north Wales, but daytime accommodation a bit more difficult to find. I go over past Chester once a month or so, and as you say that is easier

If I was a Liverpool or Manc based SD, I think I'd be looking in north Wales as well. My guess, although I might be wrong, is that girls locally have lower expectations, but many are just as pretty, and more natural, than some of the Instagram princesses you might see in an SA search in the big cities

Had a wasted day in Chester a week or so ago as it happened as I was stood up by a very promising SB. Had a long walk along the canal to understood better how locks work. Very interesting, but not exactly what I'd had in mind

[Proton]

Had a long walk along the canal to understood better how locks work. Very interesting, but not exactly what I'd had in mind......
Well at least you managed to stimulated your grey matter, if not anything else stimulated 

[clevertrevor]

I looked at SA a couple of years ago, flicking through the profiles I came across someone I knew.
My stepdaughter!!   I thought it was funny as fuck seeing as we can't stand each other.  And no I didn't contact her or ever let on I knew

[smithy23]

Not in your region so hopefully you don't mind me joining your conversation.

would 100% agree with WillsonH about SD's. a few might be wealthy but from what i can see and have been told most are normal guys who financially are "comfortable". I have been on SA for 18 months now and have had a lot of fun (and sex) and yes have spent a fair bit on money but doing things i wanted to do.

If it would be "just for sex" then in my view, SA is not the place to go and won't be good basic value. I can accomodate so don't have to do hotels but when i have been away with a SA lady, we have sometimes stayed in a Travellodge and that has been perfectly ok. They don't have to be £150pn hotels. But the ladies and the sex is something else. There are a few WG's on SA and you tend to get a good WG response from them but the others, when you find the right ones, want to have a good time, be treated nice, and maybe taken to a nice restauant etc but they want to have sex with you. No pretending. In 18 months i have had sex with over 25 different ladies aged 19 to 34 and it has been amazing.

If you are thinking about it, have a go. But not if you are only interested getting a quick fu*k or if you are on a really tight budget. You won't get the best from it.

Sounds interesting, so you mind me asking how much you paid these girls please? Also what was the arrangement with them, was their flirting or was it more just a one off to see them or was it a more prolonged period?

Thanks

[Proton]

Sounds interesting, so you mind me asking how much you paid these girls please? Also what was the arrangement with them, was their flirting or was it more just a one off to see them or was it a more prolonged period?
Thanks

Some useful tips & interesting information would be appreciated 

[southcoastpunter]

Sounds interesting, so you mind me asking how much you paid these girls please? Also what was the arrangement with them, was their flirting or was it more just a one off to see them or was it a more prolonged period?

Thanks

Happy to share info - thats what this site is all about. There is already a lot of info on SA on ukp but in other regions like the SW and on the main board.

have a look at

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=278010.0

 https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=299753.0

these are the SW region's ones.

I should stress that i am single and can accomodate so it makes it a lot easier and cheaper in that i don't need hotels and key is that i am not just looking for sex. Also living near 2 Uni towns helps as there are lots of students around.

In my experience, once you get past the scammers, the pic sellers and those that think you should give them money because they are pretty, there are a few that are basically WG's selling sex but most are not and would be horrified to be in any way considered to being providing paid for sex. They want a bit of wooing and showing an interest in them and maybe taken to a nice restaurant etc. So many say things like guys their age have no idea how to treat a lady as well as not being able to afford anything, watch too much porn and  want anal sex on day 1.

To answer the question about how much - SA is not cheap sex. But it can provide fantastic sex with young hotties at good vfm per session. These ladies do not charge or think price by the hour. I have paid between £100 and £250 for a session and a session can be anything from a couple of hours but more typically 4 or 5 hours together or overnight. As an example i currently have a 20 year old student who said it would be good to get some help towards her rent. i asked how much her rent was and its £450pm. She was delighted when i said i will pay that for her - after our first proper date. so we did a nice restaurant and drinks and an overnight! Fabulous BJ and a great sex. and again in the morning. we are still in our first month together and have met twice more and she is a lovely young lady - great company, good to look at and a tigeress in the bedroom - and on the lounge carpet and in the garden too. I can't keep up!

As I said my cirumstances are such to be able to really enjoy SA and I am financially comfortable - so i have a couple on the go! To get them you have to be interested in them as a person and play the long game - not just want sex on the very first meeting. (if they do that they are probably professional WG's). I have mainly gone for student types but there are single mums on there too needing a bit of help.

[Proton]

 Thanks for your informative reply, Is age difference an important factor?. I'm in the same situation as yourself, but I have mentally stalled ever since my student went back to Sussex 

[southcoastpunter]

is age difference a factor?

well yes for me - I would hope that i can pull and date women in their 50's and maybe in their mid/late 40's so will not pay for that (whether on SA or AW !) and therefore i am not interested in that age range on SA. Only 19 to 35 ish.

And often for the lady too. Quite a few ladies in their 20's say (as i said above) that guys their age have no idea how to treat so they are actively seeking an older guy. I can get away with being mid 50's but actually am a little older and this is not an issue for most. Not sure how a much younger chap would get on - would ask why he would want to be on SA, why not just go out and pull a few directly. I have also had a couple of ladies in their 30's say to me that they have been with guys over 70. The saying that "age is just a number" is so true - depends how you look and feel and act!

[Proton]

 I have been asked via "PM" by a few members, was the car I purchased  a new car "NO"
   It was from a family I knew very well, who were selling their second car an old Vauxhall. I knew it was well looked after+ low mileage, they were happy to see me drive it away for £400. Yes it is still going well without any issues 

[hungrypunt]

Ive been doing SA around North Wales since 2014. Apart from the ones you mention over near the border there is very little day use. You can always call and tell lots of hotles will accept you using through the day for a rate, interview room, freshen up room on a long drive etc.

Ive always booked a night or 2 and check in eary there are plenty of places esp around the Rhyl areas. sometimes we stay over, meal drinks and go again.
Where I am now though is I have a few regs 1 semi long termer that I look after and dip in and out of SA when the need takes me. I find the type of girls nwo though around N Wales are not what they used to be.

Stay away frokk one hotle in the St Asaph area though near the round about as they have been told and had meetings about SA being hookers. I was actually sat there in the restaurant with my SB when we overheard them talking about fellas comin in with girls who look young, etc etc and staying n the Annex part.

[WillsonH]

Ive been doing SA around North Wales since 2014. Apart from the ones you mention over near the border there is very little day use. You can always call and tell lots of hotles will accept you using through the day for a rate, interview room, freshen up room on a long drive etc.

Ive always booked a night or 2 and check in eary there are plenty of places esp around the Rhyl areas. sometimes we stay over, meal drinks and go again.
Where I am now though is I have a few regs 1 semi long termer that I look after and dip in and out of SA when the need takes me. I find the type of girls nwo though around N Wales are not what they used to be.

Stay away frokk one hotle in the St Asaph area though near the round about as they have been told and had meetings about SA being hookers. I was actually sat there in the restaurant with my SB when we overheard them talking about fellas comin in with girls who look young, etc etc and staying n the Annex part.

Are you saying you ask the hotel for a 9 to 5 rate and they're OK about that (not at this time of year maybe)?

I tried that on spec with some Airbnbs in north Wales in the springtime and they seemed open to the idea, but again this is not the time

I'd be interested to know though which north Wales hotels might be DayUse in all but name, if the mood takes them. DM if you can, and if you prefer

Am on a streak of poor form (or maybe just me) at the mo, 3 promising Meet and Greets in a row and subsequently ghosted by all three. Last two ended up with big smackers on the mouth and "definite" dates arranged, plus another M&G arranged and she never turned up. Ideal is really to move straight from the M&G to the hotel, if all goes well, but timings were against us on all occasions.

Life, eh. My tip, and I'm sure you'd agree, is never to block anyone or leave on poor terms, (unless they do something really bad). You never know if they might come back

[hungrypunt]

Are you saying you ask the hotel for a 9 to 5 rate and they're OK about that (not at this time of year maybe)?

Yes, almost all hotels will offer you a day rate when you ask. 9-5 or whatever. It could be for you being on a long journey for a stop off, or anything, blah blah. I used to run hotels and its quite common.

Life, eh. My tip, and I'm sure you'd agree, is never to block anyone or leave on poor terms, (unless they do something really bad). You never know if they might come back

100% agree, Ive had many an SB re ignite out of the blue when they want $$$

[WillsonH]

Yes, almost all hotels will offer you a day rate when you ask. 9-5 or whatever. It could be for you being on a long journey for a stop off, or anything, blah blah. I used to run hotels and its quite common.

I'd never thought of asking! But when the tourist season dies down a bit I sure will! Thanks!

[wonky]

I've got over 40msg's from girls waiting on SA which I cant read because I refuse to give them my credit card information  I still remember the ashley madison debarcle and dont want to leave myself exposed. There is a decent discount on at the moment which i'd take up if they made payments easier and more anonymous.

Will happily share experience with these girls then

[southcoastpunter]

I've got over 40msg's from girls waiting on SA which I cant read because I refuse to give them my credit card information  I still remember the ashley madison debarcle and dont want to leave myself exposed. There is a decent discount on at the moment which i'd take up if they made payments easier and more anonymous.

Will happily share experience with these girls then

why not use something like Revolut - its an phone App based account. yes you have to give your real details to them but after that, your transactions are virtually autonomous. you have an online card and can have a one off vitual card if you wish. I have a cheap but smart punting/Sa phone and it takes less than a couple of hours to register - you upload a photo of your driving licence or similar.

So if SA did get hacked, it only gets a virtual card number from Revolut. I am sure there are other similar ways of not giving SA your real details.

[bazingaboy]

Ummm, surely genuine Sugar Daddies are quite wealthy and don’t really need to worry about how much a hotel costs?

Wealthy don't stay weathly by wasting money where it can be saved. This is why I'm not weathly 

[ianvilla]

I've been on SA for many years since 2018 i think. It takes time communicating with the girls but for me it's been worth all the effort and the sex is awesome. It takes patience and time to text it can be tiresome but I've been with 25 or more girls some long term, some short, occasional one offs. I've spent no more than I would have on normal wg's and I've had the best sex ever.

[PMAC123]

edit: just posted my thoughts completely forgetting I had already posted here haha my bad

[cooltomtom]

Hi all, I don't live in wales, so sorry to hijack this thread, but I do visit Cardiff quite often, so whilst I was paid up on SA for local dates, I thought I would try Cardiff. One lass seems very nice, organised date then she drops the bombshell of wanting half the fee direct into her bank account before meeting
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Well....I'm not falling for that....and yet our interaction seemed very genuine
So I'm wondering of any others have had any dealings with her, and if she is true to her word....or not - thanks all. Feel free to PM me. Tom

[hungrypunt]

Hi all, I don't live in wales, so sorry to hijack this thread, but I do visit Cardiff quite often, so whilst I was paid up on SA for local dates, I thought I would try Cardiff. One lass seems very nice, organised date then she drops the bombshell of wanting half the fee direct into her bank account before meeting
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Well....I'm not falling for that....and yet our interaction seemed very genuine
So I'm wondering of any others have had any dealings with her, and if she is true to her word....or not - thanks all. Feel free to PM me. Tom

Shes full of shit had a few comms with her, Ignore and report it
before that she was lilly summat else