Service Provider wants review to be taken down

[winkywanky]

You have a really appropriate handle. Thanks for your constructive comments........

I would say yours is inappropriate  .

You've let this rumble on without responding properly at appropriate points, and then dribbled out what you maintain are the facts. It doesn't inspire confidence. If you can't see that, tough shit.

[finn5555]

Why don’t we put the cunt out of his misery and ban him clearly a troll 😈

[The Owl]

Why don’t we put the cunt out of his misery and ban him clearly a troll 😈

I suspect DavieMac has spoken for now and OP has escaped the ban hammer, however his credibility as a legitimate reviewer is now completely in tatters. I'd treat any positive review he posts with complete disregard as it's obvious he's come under pressure to try and get a review deleted that was obviously a negative. 

Only a fool with money to lose would trust goodolnick. 

[southern boy]

Who is the spoke goodolnick

[southern boy]

Sp

[southern boy]

Your obviously well respected 

[AndreaM]

As an sp, I politely asked old admin to remove bits of info that were kinda outy. And he politely removed those bits. My advice to all sps who see information on here is to politely explain their stance. Most admins and mods on here are reasonable people who don't want to out sps. That's just my experience. 

But asking a random punter to help doesn't actually help.

[Fac51]

As an sp, I politely asked old admin to remove bits of info that were kinda outy. And he politely removed those bits. My advice to all sps who see information on here is to politely explain their stance. Most admins and mods on here are reasonable people who don't want to out sps. That's just my experience. 

But asking a random punter to help doesn't actually help.

 

[AndreaM]

My point is that 90% of the time the admins and owner of ukp will notice malicious or outy reviews, but they don't have the time to police every single post. But in my experience, they always removed malicious pieces of info. Because I explained my stance and didn't expect some random punter to fight my corner.

If as SPs we can meet strangers for sex, we can also explain why certain things shouldn't be on the on the internet. 

[Fuzzyduck]

I suspect DavieMac has spoken for now and OP has escaped the ban hammer, however his credibility as a legitimate reviewer is now completely in tatters. I'd treat any positive review he posts with complete disregard as it's obvious he's come under pressure to try and get a review deleted that was obviously a negative. 

Only a fool with money to lose would trust goodolnick. 

Quite. I've got the popcorn ready for his next review of Privy. The naivety of OP is quite extraordinary to the point that I almost believe him (that it's not about his own review) since surely no-one could be that fucking stupid. I can't understand why he didn't just report the review explaining the concern for SP safety (unless it was his own review of course )

Also, registrations are open. The SP in question can become a member, identify herself as a SP, and report the review that's causing distress. She doesn't even need to post.

How to ruin your credibility in one easy sentence 101.

[The Owl]

As an sp, I politely asked old admin to remove bits of info that were kinda outy. And he politely removed those bits. My advice to all sps who see information on here is to politely explain their stance. Most admins and mods on here are reasonable people who don't want to out sps. That's just my experience. 

But asking a random punter to help doesn't actually help.

I remember the dodgy revenge review of you by Pablo after your refused to see him again for comments he made about you. His review is still here in all it's neutral glory but the review got taken apart by several other members that were aware of his issues with you. Even if a review stands its impact can be destroyed if it's recognised as dodgy.

[AndreaM]

A! Now that brings back memories.   

Tbf , that review wasn't outy or particularly malicious.  It did seem like the OP was talking about a review that could potentially harm. So I had to chime in here. Escorts have a better chance of getting personal info deleted from here by asking instead or relying on white knights. I think a few weeks ago I reported a post where the genius outed a random escort's real name and within a day it was gone.

People give ukp a bad rep, but really, I've noticed the site is managed by reasonable people.

[The Owl]

No, the review wasn't problematic in revealing too much about you, but it was taken to task because of the backstory that had manifested on UKE before the review was dropped on here.

The new admin team also seem to have a good handle on privacy element of escorts.

[Fuzzyduck]

No, the review wasn't problematic in revealing too much about you, but it was taken to task because of the backstory that had manifested on UKE before the review was dropped on here.

The new admin team also seem to have a good handle on privacy element of escorts.

I think you're, diplomatically, omitting the fact that he's a cock. Something manifestly disquieting about him.

[The Owl]

I think you're, diplomatically, omitting the fact that he's a cock. Something manifestly disquieting about him.

Let's just say that there are forum members that I trust the reviews of or enjoy interacting with and that there are forum members that I'm more sceptical of their revIews and I'm less interested in interacting with.

[AndreaM]

No, the review wasn't problematic in revealing too much about you, but it was taken to task because of the backstory that had manifested on UKE before the review was dropped on here.

The new admin team also seem to have a good handle on privacy element of escorts.

I wasn't innocent either. I did rattle him into making the review. I think a shittier punter could have used the opportunity to give me a neg, post my full adress and door number. So... on that occasion, I like to think we both overreacted. I had my reasons for refusing to see him at the time, but I never claimed he was a dangerous punter or anything . Because he's not.

Tbh, back then I was a bit of a tart who didn't realise that people on forums are actual humans. Ukp and uke were my entire life... now... I discovered netflix 

[Fuzzyduck]

I wasn't innocent either. I did rattle him into making the review. I think a shittier punter could have used the opportunity to give me a neg, post my full adress and door number. So... on that occasion, I like to think we both overreacted. I had my reasons for refusing to see him at the time, but I never claimed he was a dangerous punter or anything . Because he's not.

Tbh, back then I was a bit of a tart who didn't realise that people on forums are actual humans. Ukp and uke were my entire life... now... I discovered netflix 

Sure, it takes two to tango but he had form. You weren't the only SP he had conflicts with. I recollect one came on here with an eye opening account of her side. Whilst it had to be read in context and taken with bags of salt, it didn't reflect well on him.

[The Owl]

I wasn't innocent either. I did rattle him into making the review. I think a shittier punter could have used the opportunity to give me a neg, post my full adress and door number. So... on that occasion, I like to think we both overreacted. I had my reasons for refusing to see him at the time, but I never claimed he was a dangerous punter or anything . Because he's not.

Tbh, back then I was a bit of a tart who didn't realise that people on forums are actual humans. Ukp and uke were my entire life... now... I discovered netflix 

Disney+ is better! 

You've always been more likely to say what you think. I imagine you found your voice more after that fake review of you on here when you were new to the job... although of course I could be imagining what you were thinking at the time.

I don't think the neutral reviewer of you was dangerous so much as I think he has an overblown sense of entitlement and is prone to spitting out his dummy or overreacting when in front of a keyboard. For me that's enough to treat him with some level of caution.

Yeah, we're all human. You too. Unfortunately being human means being flawed and getting things wrong from time to time. I've certainly fucked up enough times to know that, and not just on forums.

[AndreaM]

Sure, it takes two to tango but he had form. You weren't the only SP he had conflicts with. I recollect one came on here with an eye opening account of her side. Whilst it had to be read in context and taken with bags of salt, it didn't reflect well on him.

That's true, he annoyed other SPs too but I poked the bear because I found it fun at the time.  Anywho, I don't want any bad blood. Not with Pablo, or anyone really. I lost people to the fucking covid and made me realise life's too short for silly fights.

The truth is, Pablo annoyed me many moons ago and that's why I decided against seeing him again. That's all. Nothing sinister. He's not the perfect punter, but no one dangerous. Back then things just got out of control. And I accept my part in the popcorn review thread. 

[Fuzzyduck]

Disney+ is better! 

You've always been more likely to say what you think. I imagine you found your voice more after that fake review of you on here when you were new to the job... although of course I could be imagining what you were thinking at the time.

I don't think the neutral reviewer of you was dangerous so much as I think he has an overblown sense of entitlement and is prone to spitting out his dummy or overreacting when in front of a keyboard. For me that's enough to treat him with some level of caution.

Yeah, we're all human. You too. Unfortunately being human means being flawed and getting things wrong from time to time. I've certainly fucked up enough times to know that, and not just on forums.

You made that mistake before, buddy.

[AndreaM]

Disney+ is better! 

You've always been more likely to say what you think. I imagine you found your voice more after that fake review of you on here when you were new to the job... although of course I could be imagining what you were thinking at the time.

I don't think the neutral reviewer of you was dangerous so much as I think he has an overblown sense of entitlement and is prone to spitting out his dummy or overreacting when in front of a keyboard. For me that's enough to treat him with some level of caution.

Yeah, we're all human. You too. Unfortunately being human means being flawed and getting things wrong from time to time. I've certainly fucked up enough times to know that, and not just on forums.

Yeah... but I did rattle him 

Actually, the only thing that annoyed me about his review was  the suggestion that I was working back to back. I used to live in a 8 storey building with overr 100 flats in it. People come and go. Plus, I've always been way too lazy to see punters back to back. I still like my naps 

[The Owl]

You made that mistake before, buddy.

Really? Oh dear. 

Of course that comment wasn't deliberate at all.   

[Andywb]

I have read this thread with fascination since it began. Now I will take the plunge and make a contribution.

The focus and assumption in much of the discussion and criticism of the OP has been that he (and the unknown SP) seek to remove a negative review. I can’t claim to know anything about the actual circumstances of that specific case. But I make this post to offer a different, and more general, perspective - namely that in some circumstances any review (be it positive or negative) can cause issues for an SP.

In my few years of visiting thai massage providers I have encountered a number of thai girls who were upset about being reviewed on this site – and their reviews were consistently positive. In my experience it is not unusual to be asked “please don’t review me” when being shown out after a massage and HE.  Two SPs have explicitly asked me if there was a way of getting reviews removed from UKP. In one case the SP had only one review on UKP. It was a positive review, but she was very upset. Her problem was she did not want friends/family to find out she was offering ‘extras’. Ok, she was naïve to think she would not be reviewed, but I believed her concern was genuine. In another instance an SP was trying to go legit with a new massage shop. In the past, reviews in which she offered extras did not bother her. But now she was going legit, she did not want to be associated with those old reviews. Her reviews were positive, but she wanted to make a fresh start. She was using a new name to start her legit enterprise, but an OP had included reference to her previous persona in his review (hence blowing her new identity). The SP was understandably upset that she was not able to escape the past reviews and was worried about the impact on her new shop and image. Specifically, she did not want her kids, who were approaching teenage years, discovering embarrassing reviews.

In both cases mentioned above I sympathised with the SP but did not take any action on their behalf – although I did highlight that a contact email for UKP admin is available on the webpage (with no login required).

So that’s my contribution. In a nutshell my point is that the narrative in this thread has focused on the assumption that the OP was attempting to assist an SP to get a negative review removed. This could easily be incorrect. In my limited experience even positive reviews can cause issues for SPs under certain circumstances.

[Fishface]

Nothing about a negative review. About anguish, heartache and distress. Maybe to do with moving to a new location and suddenly finding that you've been outed. Clearly some on here think that service providers should live in whore ghettos and have engraved signs below their house number saying I'm a whore. They aren't allowed to live somewhere else like a small village without cunts outing them to all and sundry.
Anguish, heartache and distress 

Agree as said whilst OP post is trying to help an SP she needs to contact the admin here and ask for their consideration of the problems caused by a review affecting their REAL PRIVATE LIFE. You know the one you fuckers jealously guard 

And if this post gets me banned then at least I can say Im a MAN and a decent human being.

[shed]

Personally I never tell any SP that I am a member of UKP. I deny all knowledge if asked..
Don't see the point in telling anybody. That way if they read one of my reviews which upsets them then they have absolutely no idea who wrote it. I also never mention the date I visited nor write the review directly after the visit.

[Charlie Chalk]

Nothing about a negative review. About anguish, heartache and distress. Maybe to do with moving to a new location and suddenly finding that you've been outed. Clearly some on here think that service providers should live in whore ghettos and have engraved signs below their house number saying I'm a whore. They aren't allowed to live somewhere else like a small village without cunts outing them to all and sundry.
Anguish, heartache and distress 

Agree as said whilst OP post is trying to help an SP she needs to contact the admin here and ask for their consideration of the problems caused by a review affecting their REAL PRIVATE LIFE. You know the one you fuckers jealously guard 

And if this post gets me banned then at least I can say Im a MAN and a decent human being.

Have you ever even seen a WG? After all, you’ve been here for 6 years and have contributed the sum total of fuck all. I’ve even looked back over your last 50 posts, nothing of any use there either. Why exactly are you here if you aren’t prepared to contribute anything substantive?

Oh, and your post is full of supposition and opinion and low on fact.

[Andywb]

Personally I never tell any SP that I am a member of UKP. I deny all knowledge if asked..
Don't see the point in telling anybody. That way if they read one of my reviews which upsets them then they have absolutely no idea who wrote it. I also never mention the date I visited nor write the review directly after the visit.

Same here. If asked about UKP, I always say that I am aware of the site, but that I am not a member

[winkywanky]

Nothing about a negative review. About anguish, heartache and distress. Maybe to do with moving to a new location and suddenly finding that you've been outed. Clearly some on here think that service providers should live in whore ghettos and have engraved signs below their house number saying I'm a whore. They aren't allowed to live somewhere else like a small village without cunts outing them to all and sundry.
Anguish, heartache and distress 

Agree as said whilst OP post is trying to help an SP she needs to contact the admin here and ask for their consideration of the problems caused by a review affecting their REAL PRIVATE LIFE. You know the one you fuckers jealously guard 

And if this post gets me banned then at least I can say Im a MAN and a decent human being.

Whether by his own incompetence in not explaining the situation properly or just plain lying, the OP has told a reluctant, piecemeal and fragmented tale of WG woe. Why are you conferring integrity and total believability on someone you have never met? He might well be a fluffy White Knight who will benefit personally by galloping in on his white charger, or he might simply be trying to get himself out of self-inflicted shit. FFS you've never even punted in SIX WHOLE YEARS on here, yet by inference, you are saying that anyone not believing the OP word-for-word is a callous cunt. I would say piss off

I hope you do get banned, thus far you are a total waste of space (and bandwidth).

[Straightsix]

Why are you conferring integrity and total believability on someone you have never met?

Plenty of women incognito on this forum.

[Hotdogboy88]

Nothing about a negative review. About anguish, heartache and distress. Maybe to do with moving to a new location and suddenly finding that you've been outed. Clearly some on here think that service providers should live in whore ghettos and have engraved signs below their house number saying I'm a whore. They aren't allowed to live somewhere else like a small village without cunts outing them to all and sundry.
Anguish, heartache and distress 

Agree as said whilst OP post is trying to help an SP she needs to contact the admin here and ask for their consideration of the problems caused by a review affecting their REAL PRIVATE LIFE. You know the one you fuckers jealously guard 

And if this post gets me banned then at least I can say Im a MAN and a decent human being.

How about posting a review sometime?

[Straightsix]

How about posting a review sometime?

Its a woman. Obviously not a lesbo either. 😄

[The Owl]

How about posting a review sometime?

After almost 6 years as a member I suspect he's far too much of a gentleman to say what happens between and lady and himself after he's paid her.

[winkywanky]

After almost 6 years as a member I suspect he's far too much of a gentleman to say what happens between and lady and himself after he's paid her.

But not so much of a gentleman to contribute to the club he joined, which in all probability he has used for info on punts he's likely had  .

[pbrown355]

If you want to maintain a private life at some point in your life don't put yourself in a position where the world and his brother can see you. The grief you talk about is only important if you think you did something wrong. Otherwise in life you need to stand up straight and take responsibility for yourself and your actions.
The OP lefy us all hanging as to whether this may be problematic in some way not yet imagined by me, or whether he was a fluffy twat.

[Fuzzyduck]

Nothing about a negative review. About anguish, heartache and distress. Maybe to do with moving to a new location and suddenly finding that you've been outed. Clearly some on here think that service providers should live in whore ghettos and have engraved signs below their house number saying I'm a whore. They aren't allowed to live somewhere else like a small village without cunts outing them to all and sundry.
Anguish, heartache and distress 

Agree as said whilst OP post is trying to help an SP she needs to contact the admin here and ask for their consideration of the problems caused by a review affecting their REAL PRIVATE LIFE. You know the one you fuckers jealously guard 

And if this post gets me banned then at least I can say Im a MAN and a decent human being.

Your ignorance is really quite astounding. Whilst I broadly agree with your sentiment, you've brought your agenda to the wrong meeting. I don't really see anyone on this thread suggesting that outing a SP is a good thing. If you can point them out, I'll happily stand next to you and call them a cunt. Reviews, even positive ones, can sometimes have unintended consequences as Andywb has pointed out. However, there is an adequate redress mechanism that seems to be effective (assuming the request is justified), though only the Management can talk about the number of requests they've received and whether they've acted.

I assume you justify your own lack of meaningful contribution to the site as your way of respecting SP's privacy and not causing them anguish, heartache and distress yet you happily consume the efforts of others who have taken the time to do reviews. You should add parasite to your list of self-awarded medals.

[Fishface]

Any more?! Thanks for demonstrating what a bunch of thick bullies some of you are. One after the other lol.

You, in this thread, get off on attacking other members here who don't conform to your bully boy ethical code. As if it matters.

[Hotdogboy88]

Any more?! Thanks for demonstrating what a bunch of thick bullies some of you are. One after the other lol.

You, in this thread, get off on attacking other members here who don't conform to your bully boy ethical code. As if it matters.

Have you read you post? Kettle and black comes to mind. Or does it only work your way?

[Fuzzyduck]

Any more?! Thanks for demonstrating what a bunch of thick bullies some of you are. One after the other lol.

You, in this thread, get off on attacking other members here who don't conform to your bully boy ethical code. As if it matters.

I note you resort to shouting bully when called out rather than addressing the material points (btw that's what a child would do, not a MAN. Just saying). When you talk about ethical code, you mean the expectation that members (note you've self-identified as one of those) contribute, don't you? Or have you got an exemption from that somehow, you know, since you're a decent human being and all?

[Charlie Chalk]

Any more?! Thanks for demonstrating what a bunch of thick bullies some of you are. One after the other lol.

You, in this thread, get off on attacking other members here who don't conform to your bully boy ethical code. As if it matters.

You’re making yourself look even more stupid now. Your original post wittered on about “outing” WG’s as a reason for wanting a review removed. Problem is, the OP hasn’t said this is the reason; instead, he has said the review caused her “anguish & distress” & “put her at risk” ( without providing any kind of context or detail)which is a totally different issue.

Apart from your wilful misunderstanding if the ethos of this site, you have resorted to making strawman arguments to support your POV (whatever that may be). It’s quite pathetic really. I suspect your wish to be banned may come true sooner rather than later. Not that you’ll be missed.

[Fishface]

I don't 'wish to be banned'

[finn5555]

I don't 'wish to be banned'

Do you punt 

[Fishface]

Do you punt 

Why do you care? Most online today 3,334. All of whom wrote a review or made one of those special, not rubbish, posts.

[finn5555]

Why do you care?

So your a leach who makes no meaningful contribution 

[Hotdogboy88]

So your a leach who makes no meaningful contribution 

He wouldn’t be missed I’m sure of it.

[Charlie Chalk]

I don't 'wish to be banned'

Then make some positive contributions. Either provide info from your extensive but bother to secret punting experience or, here’s a revolutionary idea, post some reviews.

Then you’ll be treated with some respect. Until then, don’t act all butthurt when you make ridiculous posts making generalised unfounded and unfair accusations against the membership which are then challenged by respected members with more right to post here than you.

[Fuzzyduck]

Then make some positive contributions. Either provide info from your extensive but bother to secret punting experience or, here’s a revolutionary idea, post some reviews.

Then you’ll be treated with some respect. Until then, don’t act all butthurt when you make ridiculous posts making generalised unfounded and unfair accusations against the membership which are then challenged by respected members with more right to post here than you.

Noble attempt CC, but he's made it patently clear that he believes the rules don't apply to him.

[Fishface]

Then make some positive contributions. Either provide info from your extensive but bother to secret punting experience or, here’s a revolutionary idea, post some reviews.

Then you’ll be treated with some respect. Until then, don’t act all butthurt when you make ridiculous posts making generalised unfounded and unfair accusations against the membership which are then challenged by respected members with more right to post here than you.

Where's the 'right to post' rule to be found? Beyond being a member. As for 'respected' spare me the
pomp.

Also I seem to have become the object of a few members spite and sport for the evening. Whilst all ganging up on me and accusing me of being the bully, all on my little own, bless.

[NigelF]

Where's the 'right to post' rule to be found? Beyond being a member. As for 'respected' spare me the
pomp.

Also I seem to have become the object of a few members spite and sport for the evening. Whilst all ganging up on me and accusing me of being the bully, all on my little own, bless.

You’re not a bully, you’re just really stupid.

[Fuzzyduck]

Where's the 'right to post' rule to be found? Beyond being a member. As for 'respected' spare me the
pomp.

Also I seem to have become the object of a few members spite and sport for the evening. Whilst all ganging up on me and accusing me of being the bully, all on my little own, bless.

Who is accusing you of being a bully? You introduced that word to the thread. Read rules 1 and 27 before you get on your high horse.


1 Site ethos/mission
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27 Lurking / Dormant Accounts
Members that do not contribute Reviews or where their accounts become dormant may have their membership revoked.

[finn5555]

I think the general consensus is FishFace is a waste of oxygen