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102 review(s) for Lilith-Noir (93 positive, 1 neutral, 4 negative) [Indexed by Goldfinch]

Offline EUGENE TACKLEBERRY

I thought that too, that her behaviour on here did her little favours and has done more damage than good. I recall some of her comments and it made it clear she couldn’t give two shits about her punters and all she cares about is the notes (can’t recall quite what she said but it was in that vein). Listen, that’s probably the reality deep down for a lot of working girls but i personally think there should be a little respect both ways. I respect an escort who I’m paying to have sex with and I offer no judgment (how could I judge when I’m paying for sex - we inhabit the same world) and I expect the same from the escort.

For me, I thought her attitude during her brief time on here was really poor and worrying. I think she would have been a decent booking but I would have been cautious of getting on the wrong side of her. I’m sure she’ll still get loads of bookings as she clearly provides good sex but I think you should take massive caution. Burner phone. Fake name. Make sure any reviews don’t make it clear which client you were.

Doesn’t help that she’s also quick to threaten litigation.

I thought her attitude on UKE was awful, cold and I got a sense of punter resentment, that was Just my gut instinct.

Her attitude on here was similar slight bantering and flirting with the fluffy supportive comments which is fine imo, upset a few who claim touting but whatever each to thier own, but then moody and aggressive if anything negative was thrown her way either polite or constructive.

Let's just assume all that shit in her workin life was as she says, James, stalking, tax blah blah blah etc u get my jist then came the comment about her being racist  which if unfounded would upset and rile any of us, but the way she responded demanding this stop and do this do that, I thought yes, you've been here less than 10 minutes and your already barking orders, orders on a punting forum for punters, a polite pm to admin would have been a better and more educated response but what do i know im just some wanker she'd happily look down on!

To threaten legal action imo is crackers, she must have nothing better to do, fuck me id be more concerend with a yellow bike falling over in china!!! If she does, I hope she isn't linked to any of those profiles or it will be more egg on her face! She got banned that should be that, sometimes you get caught out for lying or being clever!

Mind she'll have plenty of shoe boxes under her bed full of cash to fund her solicotors :lol: that's a joke btw I've no idea why guys get concerned what tax WG's do or dont pay, if she's cute she's cute, we'd all do the same, not our concern, her problem if she gets caught, just go enjoy your blow job, god knows why anyone be thinking of rax returns when they're gettin a good service
« Last Edit: March 29, 2021, 01:01:20 am by EUGENE TACKLEBERRY »

Offline Adultworkuser

Like plenty of us have said, she definitely has issues. She's definitely got control issues.

I agree, she'll still have customers. There a blacklisted escort that ended up in prison for blackmail and extortion of punters who still gets reviews on here, so if she can get schmucks thinking only with their cocks then Lilith Noir will get customers too.

UKP is for the benefit of intelligent punters. The fluffys that think they have a special connection with Lilith Noir, the idiots and those that don't use UKP will still hand over their money and take the risk of being her next target if she doesn't sort out her issues.

I suspect she feels so superior to punters that she'll probably never sort out her issues. Very sad, but not my problem.
Imagine feeling superior to someone whilst you're on your knees with their dick in your mouth and spunk on your face. Beyond delusional.

Offline pbrown355

I suppose if you have problems with premature ejaculation then thinking about taxation while you are balls deep may be a plan. Haven't seen LN and probably never will, but if I ever do I will take my own tax advice. I'll let you know how it goes.

Offline alftupper

What that proved is some low life cunt is telling her what’s being posted here  :rolleyes:

As I found out recently, you don't have to be logged on to access reviews.

Just google Lilith Noir, and you'll get a link to these pages without logging in.

A "low life cunt" may be keeping her informed, but it's just as likely she was/is having a look herself.

Offline vindici

A "low life cunt" may be keeping her informed, but it's just as likely she was/is having a look herself.

She's obviously quite intelligent, I'm sure she can read the reviews/comments herself without need of help from the Knights of the Fluffy White Table.

Offline mace-window

Imagine feeling superior to someone whilst you're on your knees with their dick in your mouth and spunk on your face. Beyond delusional.


 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Best comment on this thread and sums up WG's like Lilith Noir.

Offline mace-window

Looking at her twitter she's admitted to setting up the Almondmilk UKP account but she's still very much in denial about everything else.

She's always come across as opinionated which will appeal to some punters more than other, i'm partial to a fiery girl, but IMO she's just come across as a complete narcissist now. It's like 9 out of 10 things written about her would be positive but she'd throw her toys out of the pram over the 1 negative thing. Not a good personality trait.

I have no idea if she is outing punters or how she was going about that but the above alone is enough to ever put me off seeing her. She's meant to be a grown woman not a stroppy teenager.

it seem to be common with a certain amount of escorts like Lilith Noir to be upset of one bad comment regardless of all the sea of positives they have. Lot of twitter escorts like DevonBreeze, RiverSky, Estella Bathory, Hayley_Hazard and others will have loads of positives here but will only focus on that one bad comment about their looks and all of UKP members bad people even though most of UKP members who seen them were happy blowing their load on their faces. This just shows their narcissist trait which like you said is not a good personality trait to have. Only difference with those WG is that Lilith Noir taken this way to to far :D.

Offline vindici

Imagine feeling superior to someone whilst you're on your knees with their dick in your mouth and spunk on your face. Beyond delusional.

I'll preface that this is not a defence of LillithNoir, who very rightly deserves to be banned and get the flak for outing punters:

Regards that comment, I'm a punter not a WG hater or misogynist. I don't think I'm better than a WG because she's sucking my cock. Many people judge me as a punter because I'm paying for it, and think they're better than me, they are not.

I punt because I like women, not hate them nor look down on them.

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I'll preface that this is not a defence of LillithNoir, who very rightly deserves to be banned and get the flak for outing punters:

Regards that comment, I'm a punter not a WG hater or misogynist. I don't think I'm better than a WG because she's sucking my cock. Many people judge me as a punter because I'm paying for it, and think they're better than me, they are not.

I punt because I like women, not hate them nor look down on them.

You don't need to make a disclaimer, you did not say it. No one is going to "cancel" you.

Offline Cheltclient

I'll preface that this is not a defence of LillithNoir, who very rightly deserves to be banned and get the flak for outing punters:

Regards that comment, I'm a punter not a WG hater or misogynist. I don't think I'm better than a WG because she's sucking my cock. Many people judge me as a punter because I'm paying for it, and think they're better than me, they are not.

I punt because I like women, not hate them nor look down on them.

My view of this is that neither party is superior. We’re paying for sex, they’re selling sex. In society, it’s morally dubious, but in the punting world both parties inhabit, we should just respect one another and not judge. It’s illogical anyway as one doesn’t exist without the other. We’re all playing the same sport.

I think with LN her generally attitude did make it seem like she considered herself superior to her punters. At the very least she had a poor attitude. I don’t think anyone was suggesting she was inferior because she’s an escort (i won’t call her a whore as I do feel such terms are derogatory and not needed)


Offline The Owl

Imagine feeling superior to someone whilst you're on your knees with their dick in your mouth and spunk on your face. Beyond delusional.

And that's the crux of her problem. If you're working in a customer facing job you start to resent them, but you still have to work for them and provide the services you agree, whether it's serving the obnoxious cunt at the bar who keeps flirting with you or the fluffy needy twat that you have to suck the cock of even though you'd cross the road to avoid walking past because he's so undesirable. If you're in this environment for long enough it starts to change you. If you start hating yourself on the inside in the end a typical defence mechanism is to externalise that hate so you don't destroy yourself. The other option is to deal with the self hate but when there's £150 an hour to make and a financial or security goal it may become too much to look at the issue realistically.

I'd never look down at a woman sucking my cock and taking a facial. Some of my past lovers have done that too, as well as some bloody good prostitutes. Well, I do look down at them but only so I can watch them sucking my cock.

Offline vindici

And that's the crux of her problem. If you're working in a customer facing job you start to resent them, but you still have to...

Could not agree more, well timed breaks for mental health need to be regularly planned.
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Offline Hothandle

And that's the crux of her problem. If you're working in a customer facing job you start to resent them, but you still have to work for them and provide the services you agree, whether it's serving the obnoxious cunt at the bar who keeps flirting with you or the fluffy needy twat that you have to suck the cock of even though you'd cross the road to avoid walking past because he's so undesirable. If you're in this environment for long enough it starts to change you. If you start hating yourself on the inside in the end a typical defence mechanism is to externalise that hate so you don't destroy yourself. The other option is to deal with the self hate but when there's £150 an hour to make and a financial or security goal it may become too much to look at the issue realistically.

I'd never look down at a woman sucking my cock and taking a facial. Some of my past lovers have done that too, as well as some bloody good prostitutes. Well, I do look down at them but only so I can watch them sucking my cock.
I can well imagine that ladies that are operating at Lilith’s level can feel trapped by the money. Let’s face it there aren’t many “socially acceptable” jobs that can pay the level (i would imagine) of money that she’s capable of earning on a daily basis.
They may start to get bitter about the fact they are earning that (very good) living sucking and fucking a procession of random strangers and start to feel a resentment to the people that ultimately provide it.
I can’t imagine there are many that actually enjoy it, merely tolerating it to various levels.
But at the end of the day....i’m so glad they do. :thumbsup:

Offline mace-window

Could not agree more, well timed breaks for mental health need to be regularly planned.

To be honest most people in today's climate need more than well timed breaks for mental health due to work but actually see a therapist on a regular basis. And the behavior that Lilith Noir has shown recently is that she needs to see a therapist for 10 years + to fix herself but I doubt it.

Offline mancsguy1975

To be honest i`m sick of hearing about this WG now - the more people post on this forum the more she is getting publicity (albeit negative and for a good reason it seems). She has made her bed and can lie in it as far as I am concerned  :timeout:

Plenty other fish in the sea as a few people have said now.

Head1 has to fear nothing from this increasingly insane narcissist  :thumbsdown:
« Last Edit: March 29, 2021, 07:31:26 pm by mancsguy1975 »

Offline mace-window

I can well imagine that ladies that are operating at Lilith’s level can feel trapped by the money. Let’s face it there aren’t many “socially acceptable” jobs that can pay the level (i would imagine) of money that she’s capable of earning on a daily basis.
They may start to get bitter about the fact they are earning that (very good) living sucking and fucking a procession of random strangers and start to feel a resentment to the people that ultimately provide it.
I can’t imagine there are many that actually enjoy it, merely tolerating it to various levels.
But at the end of the day....i’m so glad they do. :thumbsup:

That's a poor excuse sorry. They are "socially acceptable jobs" that pay that much on a daily basis. The problem with those jobs is that they are very very hard (so hard that you don't have time to make three accounts to troll and out people that don't blow smoke up your ass) and take time to earn that much money. That and those type of jobs aren't that interesting to most girls. And on top of that you you need to cut down on your spending on many new luxury items. Or she can be in relationship of regular guy working in a good job but will eventually move up in job ladder to earn those big bucks after 3 - 10 years. But hi, those guys aren't that exciting to most girls and those guys will likely be ignored by those girls till those same girls reach 30+ year old.

Sorry to go in like that but I see this same argument with people who complain why they aren't making that much money due to "X" reasons and think that most rich guys got were they did by luck when in fact that person made some bad life decisions  in their life to not make that much money, not doing the work or in this case doing "fast money" jobs/careers for that money but hating the jobs. It like those Fraud/scamers like Dan Lok. He probably hate that he is scamming people and destroying people's lives with his BS course but hi he don't want to do the work on actually job that play the same amount that he earns from scamming people. And that's the catch 22 with "fast money" jobs.

Offline mace-window

It was this one in particular:
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Looks like she has deleted those twitter post about suing UKP's 1head and not outing punters. Looks like those posts weren't doing her any favors from the lack of likes on those posts and exposing non-UKP members her true colors if you don't play her games.

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Looks like she has deleted those twitter post about suing UKP's 1head and not outing punters. Looks like those posts weren't doing her any favors from the lack of likes on those posts and exposing non-UKP members her true colors if you don't play her games.

Of course she did she isn’t bright let’s be honest  :hi:

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And that's the crux of her problem. If you're working in a customer facing job you start to resent them, but you still have to work for them and provide the services you agree, whether it's serving the obnoxious cunt at the bar who keeps flirting with you or the fluffy needy twat that you have to suck the cock of even though you'd cross the road to avoid walking past because he's so undesirable. If you're in this environment for long enough it starts to change you. If you start hating yourself on the inside in the end a typical defence mechanism is to externalise that hate so you don't destroy yourself. The other option is to deal with the self hate but when there's £150 an hour to make and a financial or security goal it may become too much to look at the issue realistically.

I'd never look down at a woman sucking my cock and taking a facial. Some of my past lovers have done that too, as well as some bloody good prostitutes. Well, I do look down at them but only so I can watch them sucking my cock.

I'm not sure why people are not seeming to understand why the other member said what he said. It's because she has to serve guys which she otherwise hates but still does for the simple fact that she wants/needs the money. So she has to give into her need for money to do something she would rather not. For some punters that are paying, they get to have sex with women they otherwise would not because the women are giving into the need for money. So no matter what the punter looks like, the WG is very likely going to do what they punter asks for, because she submitted to the need for the money, which the punter is giving. It's not really misogynistic what the poster said, it can be taken the wrong way but it's a power dynamic trip lol.

I'm sure people have come across women that are like oh I would never do xyz with a man, now that man turns out to be very well off ££££ wise and she changes her mind. To the guy the money is worth less than getting the woman to do what he wants, hence they would look down on her that she is prepared to submit to something which they deem worthless or has less meaning to them. In other words, how do you respect someone that is prepared to sacrifice their "dignity" in having relations with many men for material wants who then judges the men paying like say those men are not the reason she is getting money to live her life. How do you look down on someone responsible for you earning a living? The audacity is preposterous. Are we just going to pretend that social hierachy dynamics and judgement does not exist now?

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I'm not sure why people are not seeming to understand why the other member said what he said. It's because she has to serve guys which she otherwise hates but still does for the simple fact that she wants/needs the money. So she has to give into her need for money to do something she would rather not. For some punters that are paying, they get to have sex with women they otherwise would not because the women are giving into the need for money. So no matter what the punter looks like, the WG is very likely going to do what they punter asks for, because she submitted to the need for the money, which the punter is giving. It's not really misogynistic what the poster said, it can be taken the wrong way but it's a power dynamic trip lol.

I'm sure people have come across women that are like oh I would never do xyz with a man, now that man turns out to be very well off ££££ wise and she changes her mind. To the guy the money is worth less than getting the woman to do what he wants, hence they would look down on her that she is prepared to submit to something which they deem worthless or has less meaning to them. In other words, how do you respect someone that is prepared to sacrifice their "dignity" in having relations with many men for material wants who then judges the men paying like say those men are not the reason she is getting money to live her life. How do you look down on someone responsible for you earning a living? The audacity is preposterous. Are we just going to pretend that social hierachy dynamics and judgement does not exist now?

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Of course she did she isn’t bright let’s be honest  :hi:

Indeed. I hear that. I just think it is more to due to her giving into her ego than her intelligence. As she was not getting any support from her white knighting punters on twitter or from her Scottish Redhead escort friend she probably likely deleted those twitter post just for that reason. That and it was attracting attention to this very thread showing her true colors.

Offline vindici

So much 💩 let's take a deep breath and break this down:

That's a poor excuse sorry. They are "socially acceptable jobs" that pay that much on a daily basis. The problem with those jobs is that they are very very hard (so hard that you don't have time to make three accounts to troll and out people that don't blow smoke up your ass) and take time to earn that much money. That and those type of jobs aren't that interesting to most girls.

Those jobs aren't that hard, what salary are we talking about here? We're not on about £500k a year. We would know, since lot's of us have them.

Can you provide any evidence that women don't think high paying jobs are interesting?

...💩... But hi, those guys aren't that exciting to most girls and those guys will likely be ignored by those girls till those same girls reach 30+ year old.

Are you an incel? Your bitterness, makes you come across as one.

Sorry to ... 💩... by luck when in fact that person made some bad life decisions  in their life to not make that much money, not doing the work or in this case doing "fast money" jobs/careers for that money but hating the jobs

How do you know what decisions people have made in the past, that they were objectively bad given their circumstances, that they hate their job? Did they tell you, did you ask them?

I'm not sure why people are not seeming to understand why the other member said what he said. It's because she has to serve guys which she otherwise hates but still does for the simple fact that she wants/needs the money. So she has to give into her need for money to do something she would rather not.

For me, your conclusion given what the other guy said is a non-sequitur. His comment was about a superiority complex, whilst at the same time implying that women who give blowjobs and take spunk on the face are automatically inferior. As a punter I find this purely misogynistic and I distance myself from that kind of thinking.

For some punters that are paying, they get to have sex with women they otherwise would not because the women are giving into the need for money. So no matter what the punter looks like, the WG is very likely going to do what they punter asks for, because she submitted to the need for the money, which the punter is giving.

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There's even a whole forum dedicated to the discussion of such affairs...

It's not really misogynistic what the poster said, it can be taken the wrong way but it's a power dynamic trip lol.

Again, how are you drawing that conclusion?

I'm sure people have come across women that are like oh I would never do xyz with a man, now that man turns out to be very well off ££££ wise and she changes her mind. To the guy the money is worth less than getting the woman to do what he wants, hence they would look down on her that she is prepared to submit to something which they deem worthless or has less meaning to them.

Is that all guys with money?

I for one have not seen the case described above, where a woman keeps rejecting some dude's advances until she finds out he's got a few quid, then suddenly she well in. Sounds like an incel fantasy to me. If it does happen, I would wager it's uncommon, yes Goldiggers exist, but that scenario you have painted sounds like a load of bollocks, and is not how a Goldigger operates.

Not everyone sees relationships in a purely transactional sense. Some people are more complicated than that, if that is your approach to a relationship, I can't see any of them ever being long term.

In other words, how do you respect someone that is prepared to sacrifice their "dignity" in having relations with many men for material wants who then judges the men paying like say those men are not the reason she is getting money to live her life. How do you look down on someone responsible for you earning a living? The audacity is preposterous. Are we just going to pretend that social hierachy dynamics and judgement does not exist now?

No one is saying that. Where are you drawing this conclusion?

Many WGs look down on punters, we only need to read SAAFE to see rivers of disdain flow out. Lillith gives the impression that she looks down on punters, and has underestimated our intelligence to her great detriment.

I look down on people that lie, cheat and deceive me, I look down on people that don't look after their hygiene, I look down on people that don't respect my time. I don't look down on WGs because of what they do for a living, and I expect the same respect as a punter.

The issue that I have taken is with the generalisations, I will speak for myself, and I will not extend what Lillith has done, and her attitude to other WGs. I prefer to discuss that on a case by case basis, rather than tarring every WG with the same brush.

To put it simply, there are plenty of reasons to slag off Lillith and many other WGs, the fact that they suck our dicks and take our spunk is 💯% not one of them.
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Hi there Vindici, I hope this post finds you well....You took the phrase I was looking for in my initial post "superiority complex" so thank you for that. I don't regard what he said as completely misoygynistic as a stand alone statement, there are women that are not sex workers that look down on WGs aswell for what they do, so where do you go from there? Are those women misogynistic against themselves too?

As for incel fantasies. Because you have not seen something it does not exist? I've seen it, other people have seen it. You may not be in the right environment to see it. I did not say all women are like that. Is that your retort to something you do not understand, to dismiss a viewpoint as pure fantasy?

I do not understand how you are trying to extrapolate and strawman a few points I made to my whole view on relationships. I did not talk about relationships. I talked about gender dynamics with factors involving status, money and pre-concieved judgements in relation to why the poster said what he said. So now you are generalising what I said with another notion relating to incels when you said you have an issue with generalisations.

If you want to white knight, do it properly. Not this psuedo-intellectual nonsense and memes you are spouting. Deconstruct my points in relation to what I actually said in line with proper context or don't address what I've said. 
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Those jobs aren't that hard, what salary are we talking about here? We're not on about £500k a year. We would know, since lot's of us have them.

Can you provide any evidence that women don't think high paying jobs are interesting?


I am talking about STEM degree jobs and the trades which normally are the high paying jobs. Sadly low % of females are in those STEM degree jobs or trades.  This includes computer sciences, engineering and technology subjects which considerably less, with UK women constituting only about a fifth of the student body for these courses.
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And while the article will say this is due to unequal pay, restricted career progression, gender disparities adversely and etc…. most of the time it’s not the case as most  Unis and companies give scholarships to females. For example coding boot camps and Unis give scholarships and grants to people that are female or black (like me) - External Link/Members Only . The cold hard truth is that most females aren’t interested in these fields.

Anyways about those high paying jobs. Yeah these jobs aren't making £500k but they still pay a good amount of money after 3 – 10 years in the field. Also they are ways to have £500K like investing, saving, starting a business, money intelligence and etc…. on top of having a job. The Bad thing is that it’s topically hard to earn that kind of money. Yeah some people get lucky but most of the time people that are rich has got their due to hard work.

And my comment was more directed to people going for that fast “easier” money life style and not only directed to WG’s. Fast money life style includes drug dealers, escorts, online scammers like Dan Lok, Pimps, big gangsters and etc…

Are you an incel? Your bitterness, makes you come across as one.

Incel = involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not or can't have sex in romantically manner and to point out that it is no fault of their own. Normally due to their undesired looks.

P.S. So an incel is just a guy who can't get laid and I can remember a time when it meant exactly that, nothing more and nothing less. I have no idea how/when all that bitterness came into this.

When someone use the baseless insult like "incel" or "who hurt you" in today's climate (usually a woman will use such insult when they’re pissed off about something) it is a sure way that this person has lost the argument and have no counter for argument and just launch a personal attack (repackaged virgin shaming if you ask me) against the person. If I had a penny for every time I heard incel as an insult in arguments like this I could be rich.

The sad thing is the lonely, very troubled people down on their luck used the term incels to describe themselves for years, but the normies or SJW types recently latched onto the term and have been using it as an insult even when said people don't subscribe to said ideology.

And the sad thing is that this demonetization of sexless/undesired men is part of the problem. It makes men feel inferior for having less sex than others. This has to be part of the reason why some celibate young men turn to toxic communities like Black pilled community.  End of the day it’s one of dumbest insults in recent times.

For one such insults places all the value of men on their ability to have sex with a woman, which is cringe especially in a punting site. And men that use such feminist tactic like ‘incel’ as an insult to get a rise out of men who are talking about reasonable issues are idiots that base their entire life on female approval and makes them look petty.

Also just because someone appears to be angry or aggressive toward women, doesn't mean they are angry because they can't get some pussy Jesus. Just because someone has a different opinion or political view than you, does not mean they can't get laid. And using “incel” as insults reinforces the stereotype that men who don’t get laid or never had a women to have sex without paying for it are “useless” and worthy of mockery. Someone's sexual verification or lack of, is more of a reason for compassion and not a lot else. I understand why people use it, because it works a lot of the time but attacking masculinity don't mean you won the argument or make you look great. It just make you look like a total asshole if you use it as a form of attack, no better than a playground bully.

The fact that such people do this should be a sign of just how debased they have become. Most "incels" were just kind, supportive communities before people started to laugh at, and victimise them by all accounts, especially by feminists who found communities more shamed and self pitiful than themselves to bully. It's a smear to think people like "Elliot Roger"s are all they are, that's just a tiny percentage of what they have become in response. When in fact  incels are like Baraka Mkray who hated himself so much that he killed himself by setting himself on fucking fire.

But on top of everything else mentioned here, it's a form of projection of their own faults onto others. And what is funny is insults like incels also casts women's only value is only found inside their vaginas. The person who makes that insult like yourself Vindici is admitting they are exactly what feminists lie about all of us being.
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...there are women that are not sex workers that look down on WGs aswell for what they do, so where do you go from there? Are those women misogynistic against themselves too?

I don't know how I would describe women that look down on female sex workers. I still think misogynist is probably correct, in the same way that a black person can still be racist against black people, women can still be misogynists I guess.

As for incel fantasies. Because you have not seen something it does not exist? I've seen it, other people have seen it. You may not be in the right environment to see it. I did not say all women are like that. Is that your retort to something you do not understand, to dismiss a viewpoint as pure fantasy?

I've seen Goldiggers, and seen them prey on guys with money, they are dangerous and I've seen the incredible emotional harm they can cause. However the specific scenario "Guy makes a move on a woman, she dismisses him, then later finds out he's loaded, after which she's all over him" I have neither seen nor heard of outside of misogynist forums, and incel echo chambers.

If you have seen and experienced this exact scenario, fair enough. I can understand how it can make you lose respect for that woman, as would I if I observed it.

I do not understand how you are trying to extrapolate and strawman a few points I made to my whole view on relationships. I did not talk about relationships.

You're right, I should not have extrapolated your point to include a view on relationships.

I talked about gender dynamics with factors involving status, money and pre-concieved judgements in relation to why the poster said what he said. So now you are generalising what I said with another notion relating to incels when you said you have an issue with generalisations.

This specific generalisation, I think was warranted. My issues with generalisations is more with terms such as "All women..." "We all think..." "Every man...".

If you want to white knight, do it properly. Not this psuedo-intellectual nonsense and memes you are spouting. Deconstruct my points in relation to what I actually said in line with proper context or don't address what I've said.

What was wrong with the meme? Stating the blindingly obvious on a punters forum no less, deserves that.

Are you accusing me of being a white knight? Remember this:

You don't need to make a disclaimer, you did not say it. No one is going to "cancel" you.

It didn't take long for someone to take 2 + 2 and come up with 7 🤦‍♂️

Offline vindici

I am talking about STEM degree jobs and the ... 💤💤💤

That's not what you wrote, you wrote socially acceptable jobs, also there are countless jobs outside of STEM that pay very well, so not sure why harping on about STEM is relevant at all?

Also they are ways to have £500K like investing, saving, starting a business, money intelligence and etc…. on top of having a job. The Bad thing is that it’s topically hard to earn that kind of money. Yeah some people get lucky but most of the time people that are rich has got their due to hard work.

What has that got to do with the topic at hand?

And my comment was more directed to people going for that fast “easier” money life style and not only directed to WG’s. Fast money life style includes drug dealers, escorts, online scammers like Dan Lok, Pimps, big gangsters and etc…

Why, we're specifically discussing WGs? I'm not interested in debating lifestyles, we're going way off topic from the actual point being made.

Incel = involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not or can't have sex in romantically manner and to point out that it is no fault of their own. Normally due to their undesired looks.

P.S. So an incel is just a guy who can't get laid and I can remember a time when it meant exactly that, nothing more and nothing less. I have no idea how/when all that bitterness came into this.

...and when I was young gay meant bright and colourful. Incel doesn't mean what you have quoted anymore, and hasn't done for more than a decade. When you said "and those guys will likely be ignored by those girls till those same girls reach 30+ year old" that sounds pretty bitter to me, and could be a copy paste from any incel forum.

When someone use the baseless insult like "incel" or "who hurt you" in today's climate (usually a woman will use such insult when they’re pissed off about something) it is a sure way that this person has lost the argument and have no counter for argument and just launch a personal attack (repackaged virgin shaming if you ask me) against the person.

We can agree or disagree, no need to win or lose arguments 🤝

The sad thing is the lonely, very troubled people down on their luck used the term incels to describe themselves for years, but the normies or SJW types recently latched onto the term and have been using it as an insult even when said people don't subscribe to said ideology...

I did at the end of my post summarise my position and what I'm actually arguing:

"To put it simply, there are plenty of reasons to slag off Lillith and many other WGs, the fact that they suck our dicks and take our spunk is 💯% not one of them."

I'm not that interested in doing the rounds re: incels and salaries, but it would be great if you could clarify your position in juxtaposition to mine.

Offline mancsguy1975

Can we call this thread dead now... I think we have been promoting Lilth Noir in whatever form long enough  :timeout:

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Can we call this thread dead now... I think we have been promoting Lilth Noir in whatever form long enough  :timeout:

Right threads dead  :D

Offline OutForJustice80

Well this is all very disturbing. I saw Lilith a few years back and detected nothing in her personality that would have lead me to believe she was capable of this kind of shit. Shows what I know.

If she’s outed a punter she’s a fucking cunt, is there evidence that she has other than the banning logs. Tbh that’s probably enough for me but if there’s more it’d be good to understand what happened.

Nothing changes the fact that an escort or punter who outs another is a cunt but there are some real gleeful arseholes on this thread, Mace you’re the worst among them and you should read back what you’ve written (you clearly have time) and have a good think on it.

Offline dubs

Well this is all very disturbing. I saw Lilith a few years back and detected nothing in her personality that would have lead me to believe she was capable of this kind of shit. Shows what I know.


Yeah same here.  My theory is that she got a bit over-zealous in trying to track down the cunt who outed her here, when they posted a private image.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=296652.msg3141492#msg3141492

If she was using multiple accounts to make enquiries about personal info, that would quickly get spotted and reported, and end up with her being banned.

Offline vindici

Yeah same here.  My theory is that she got a bit over-zealous in trying to track down the cunt who outed her here, when they posted a private image.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=296652.msg3141492#msg3141492

If she was using multiple accounts to make enquiries about personal info, that would quickly get spotted and reported, and end up with her being banned.

Two wrongs don't make a right, there is no tolerance on this forum for outing, she should've trusted the management to deal with it. They always have, and I see no reason why they wouldn't in the future.

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Two wrongs don't make a right, there is no tolerance on this forum for outing, she should've trusted the management to deal with it. They always have, and I see no reason why they wouldn't in the future.

I never said it did and yes, outing should never be tolerated whatever the circumstances.

Offline vindici

I never said it did and yes, outing should never be tolerated whatever the circumstances.

Sorry, my comment was a general observation, and not directed at anyone in particular, I should have phrased it differently.

Offline Mr_Shins

I was so close to seeing her when she came on that fateful London tour.

I saw her recent twitter account - wasn't that impressed with her new image, I far preferred the "classy" Lilith look. She needs to stay professional in what she does. I'm sure she gives a great sexual service, but professionalism also means the way she handles her clients.

If she is still able to read this then Lilith, please take that on board, or you aren't cut out for this industry...

Offline OutForJustice80

For what it’s worth, my other comments notwithstanding, her inability to let things go on UKE did reveal a mindset that was always going to struggle with the reviews and the comments. She knew I was on UKE when we met and she immediately brought up her argument with dirrrtyfucker on there which I declined to comment on. Obviously a beautiful woman but I hate those new tits and they do smack of deep insecurities.

Offline Mr_Shins

I've just seen her twitter is active, her A/W profile is active. She has a short clip on twitter of her kicking a guy - actually not in the balls just in the penis, but shows she's into the kind of thing I'd be after.

She is way down at present on the list of those I want to see after lockdown, but it's not necessarily the case I won't see her, I'll just ensure she doesn't know enough about me.



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I've just seen her twitter is active, her A/W profile is active. She has a short clip on twitter of her kicking a guy - actually not in the balls just in the penis, but shows she's into the kind of thing I'd be after.

She is way down at present on the list of those I want to see after lockdown, but it's not necessarily the case I won't see her, I'll just ensure she doesn't know enough about me.

Well when you turn up and ask for a kicking on the shins, it won't need a florist to work out it's you  :D
Banned reason: Last review 2020 lucky not banned for arranging social meets / telegraph group
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Jesus Christ, you lot must be bored.
Banned reason: Fuck you as well.
Banned by: daviemac

Offline Mr_Shins

Well when you turn up and ask for a kicking on the shins, it won't need a florist to work out it's you  :D

Someone on fetlife (a male) messaged me to say he was similar to me, liked kicking all over the body by a woman, and could I recommend someone...


Offline mancsguy1975

Is there a way Admin can close a thread - I for one are sick for this thread being bumped up to the top every f#cking day....

Don't want to hear about this WG again on here again TBH !

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Is there a way Admin can close a thread - I for one are sick for this thread being bumped up to the top every f#cking day....

Don't want to hear about this WG again on here again TBH !

Yes we can lock the thread, but it probably won’t happen. People can discuss whatever they want..
It will probably die naturally..
You posting on it doesn’t help  :unknown: :unknown:

Offline Hothandle

Is there a way Admin can close a thread - I for one are sick for this thread being bumped up to the top every f#cking day....

Don't want to hear about this WG again on here again TBH !
Here here.......boring!
Oh shit, just bumped it back up.. :lol:

Offline The Owl

Is there a way Admin can close a thread - I for one are sick for this thread being bumped up to the top every f#cking day....

Don't want to hear about this WG again on here again TBH !

You could always report the thread and request it get locked.

For me it's a sad reminder that a really good escort would have got my money without having to break a sweat if she hadn't made a terrible mistake, repeatedly.

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You could always report the thread and request it get locked.

For me it's a sad reminder that a really good escort would have got my money without having to break a sweat if she hadn't made a terrible mistake, repeatedly.

He can report it, but will only be told what I said earlier..

Offline The Owl

He can report it, but will only be told what I said earlier..

I guess the review and subsequent car crash revelations about Lilith Noir will run and run for a long time that.

She should have walked the fuck away from UKP and ignored the bleating of the white knights as they told her 'some nasty man on UKP said horrible things about you on one of your near 60 positive reviews'.

Madness! So much better for great prostitutes with fragile egos to put the dickhead white knights on block and get on with the job of making money doing what they're good at.

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Is there a way Admin can close a thread - I for one are sick for this thread being bumped up to the top every f#cking day....

Don't want to hear about this WG again on here again TBH !

don't read it then

Offline estats

Given the serious allegations made, will she be put on the Prostitute Blacklist on the punting wiki?

Offline Mr_Shins

Given the serious allegations made, will she be put on the Prostitute Blacklist on the punting wiki?

If there is still a punting wiki, I can't actually see it from the site.