Does 90’s Porn Suck?

[Whovian]

The women are hot but when for 80% of a scene all you see is close ups of the guys butt crack and ball sack you start to wonder if your actually watching straight porn! I know you need to see the penetration shot and all, but I would actually like to see the girl in full frame.

Also what’s with all the slow motion arty crap? Not to mention all the back ally, warehouse, boiler room and random patio furniture in the middle of an empty room fucking, people allergic to bed springs back then?

How did Jenna Jameson’s films make so much money? The best scenes don’t usually involve her anyway.

Educate a 2000’s internet Porner here would ya fellers?

[mr.bluesky]

I think 90's porn stars were better looking than todays porn stars. I quite like seeing hairy muffs on past porn films and they didn't seem to be covered in naff tattoos like they are today.

[Ghost89]

I find a lot of 90’s porn is shit. It seemed to herald the true arrival of silicone and all manner of surgery which I’m not a fan of. There are some exceptions as far as female performers go such as Jenna Jameson and Jill Kelly but overall I prefer the 70’s stuff and in particular the danish stuff as it’s more natural.

[alabama1]

Why are you getting all American with the "suck" 

[sparkus]

I suspect a lot of 70s and even early 80s women in porn agreed to be filmed as they knew the films would be underground (and therefore unknown to family and friends) and they would not be required to have 'public' careers as porn actors.  Most will have made a handful of films, many now on Xhamster, and then not made anymore.  I am referring here to run of the mill European porno rather than big name Americans.

With the advent of video in the 80s came the porn industry as more of a career but a lot of the low budget ones will have been women who weren't known to the industry/viewers.

[sparkus]

The other changes in the 90s: the impact of AIDS and the increase in the amount of anal in films owing to customer demand.

[lostandfound]

Lots of fit EE girls in the 90s after the fall of the wall.

[Londonpunter30]

Why are you getting all American with the "suck" 

I thought the same.  Surely the only sucking is when there is an oral sex scene.  Some 90s porn is crap, but then the same could be said of any decade.  Some of it is very good too.

[David1970]

Why are you getting all American with the "suck" 

Alabama I thought you were from the states with your name, but from your post I take it you are not

Language evolves, if it didn’t we would all be speaking like Chaucer, I have no problem with language evolving.

[Liverpool]

Other than the 'gonzo' US porn of the 90s, it's shit.

European porn, gonzo or storyline is far better in the 90s. I always hunt out 90s stuff on line rather than stuff from nowadays.

[Jomoore]

If I ever bother to watch porn these days it's often of the 80s/90s variety.  They just seem more girl next door, and sort of accessible.  My favourite was Debbie Quarry, epic tits and lovely face. External Link/Members Only
What I never ever watch is American stuff, mostly siliconed utter crap, or Japanese stuff with anything interesting pixelated out, to the tune of weird whimpering 

[Buttplug]

I do prefer the 80/90s stuff . Especially the full feature film variety . Most of the European films had quite big budgets and flash locations. I also like a bit of pube . Different strokes etc.

[BJrimmer]

90’s porn was where it all started for me. Buttman and Ben Dover dvd’s. I spent a fortune on both.

[Chorley]

A lot of 90's porn-especially early to mid-90's- is cheesy as shit, but it also really showcased all the stuff we find "normal" now, like anal, DP's, gangbangs, facials etc. I'd say Sarah Young was the game changer for all of that. 


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[Ali Katt]

Gregory Dark did some good stuff with Latex and there was that one about scent. Porn as art.

[Keema]

Hotel porn channels - desperate shite, but still paid £10

[SamOmar]

I prefer late 90s early 2000s porn for the beauty of the girls and slight romance in the scenes. However the quality sucks when trying to view that stuff on the hub for free so therefore watch more modern 1080p porn

[smiths]

I don't like storyboarded porn and never have so once gonzo took off it was much better. Straight to the action, I have zero interest in following some story or fantasy to then get to the action.

IMO there were some hot women then and there are plenty now, or in the last 10 years anyway.

[Ali Katt]

I don't like storyboarded porn and never have so once gonzo took off it was much better. Straight to the action, I have zero interest in following some story or fantasy to then get to the action.

IMO there were some hot women then and there are plenty now, or in the last 10 years anyway.

There's truth in this. Buttman and Ben Dover were the first Gonzos I saw on VHS and possibly Shane's World a bit later. That pretty much became the benchmark; I think now most people watch amateur stuff with the exceptions of big studios: Brazzers, Evil Angel etc.

[Ali Katt]

The women are hot but when for 80% of a scene all you see is close ups of the guys butt crack and ball sack you start to wonder if your actually watching straight porn! I know you need to see the penetration shot and all, but I would actually like to see the girl in full frame.

Also what’s with all the slow motion arty crap? Not to mention all the back ally, warehouse, boiler room and random patio furniture in the middle of an empty room fucking, people allergic to bed springs back then?

How did Jenna Jameson’s films make so much money? The best scenes don’t usually involve her anyway.

Educate a 2000’s internet Porner here would ya fellers?

Girl next door good looks. She looks obtainable; how did Katie Price have a career as Jordan? or Linda Lusardi? Because they look like they could live next door and ooze sexuality.

slow motion arty crap? Not sure what you mean but that style was popular in the 90s on just about everything as was black and white inserts and Dutch tilts. Just watch something a TV programme from the early 90s like The Mary Whitehouse Experience. They were shot on location as it was a novelty then. Seeing people fuck on beds seemed vanilla now it has replaced the boiler rooms as it appears "more real".

[smiths]

There's truth in this. Buttman and Ben Dover were the first Gonzos I saw on VHS and possibly Shane's World a bit later. That pretty much became the benchmark; I think now most people watch amateur stuff with the exceptions of big studios: Brazzers, Evil Angel etc.

The problem for me with Ben Dover and his imitators like Neil Down is its often been the same scenario, he picks a random woman up, chats her up and takes 30-50 mins persuading her to suck his cock before bringing his mate Pascal the bonking Belgian or someone else in to fuck her. He had some good looking women but it was all too slow for my liking.

I stick to stuff like Mike Adrianos Swallowed.com oral only or his Anal.com stuff, a quick chat at the start and into the action. Or Rocco Siffredi and his hard stuff. My fave porn ever being reverse gangbang porn, brilliantly done with series like Outnumbered 1-5, Roccos Reverse Gangbangs 1-3, Mick Blues Best Day Ever 1 and 2 and Manuel Ferraras Reverse Gangbangs 1-3 among others.

Good reliable studios for me include Jules Jordan, Reality Kings, the Evil Empire stable which includes many different makers, Muschi Movie, 3rd Degree, Zero Tolerance again among others.

[Ali Katt]

The problem for me with Ben Dover and his imitators like Neil Down is its often been the same scenario, he picks a random woman up, chats her up and takes 30-50 mins persuading her to suck his cock before bringing his mate Pascal the bonking Belgian or someone else in to fuck her. He had some good looking women but it was all too slow for my liking.

I stick to stuff like Mike Adrianos Swallowed.com oral only or his Anal.com stuff, a quick chat at the start and into the action. Or Rocco Siffredi and his hard stuff. My fave porn ever being reverse gangbang porn, brilliantly done with series like Outnumbered 1-5, Roccos Reverse Gangbangs 1-3, Mick Blues Best Day Ever 1 and 2 and Manuel Ferraras Reverse Gangbangs 1-3 among others.

Good reliable studios for me include Jules Jordan, Reality Kings, the Evil Empire stable which includes many different makers, Muschi Movie, 3rd Degree, Zero Tolerance again among others.

Ben Dover does do way too much talking, some of his banter is hilarious though as is Phil Barrie's.

Interesting that all the men who have worked with Ben Dover are still at it. As well as Pascal, Omar Williams springs to mind.

I think that thing of picking a woman off the street got old fast and has died off. Last one I saw with that format was the American Fuck For Dollars series. Now it seems to be stepmom seduces son or getting caught in the act.

[threechilliman]

The problem for me with Ben Dover and his imitators like Neil Down is its often been the same scenario, he picks a random woman up, chats her up and takes 30-50 mins persuading her to suck his cock before bringing his mate Pascal the bonking Belgian or someone else in to fuck her. He had some good looking women but it was all too slow for my liking.

I stick to stuff like Mike Adrianos Swallowed.com oral only or his Anal.com stuff, a quick chat at the start and into the action. Or Rocco Siffredi and his hard stuff. My fave porn ever being reverse gangbang porn, brilliantly done with series like Outnumbered 1-5, Roccos Reverse Gangbangs 1-3, Mick Blues Best Day Ever 1 and 2 and Manuel Ferraras Reverse Gangbangs 1-3 among others.

Good reliable studios for me include Jules Jordan, Reality Kings, the Evil Empire stable which includes many different makers, Muschi Movie, 3rd Degree, Zero Tolerance again among others.

Neil Down and Phil Mycock, now there's a blast from the past

[winkywanky]

Hotel porn channels - desperate shite, but still paid £10

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[sparkus]

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Beat me to it, you bastard

[Liverpool]

Ben Dover does do way too much talking, some of his banter is hilarious though as is Phil Barrie's.

Interesting that all the men who have worked with Ben Dover are still at it. As well as Pascal, Omar Williams springs to mind.

I think that thing of picking a woman off the street got old fast and has died off. Last one I saw with that format was the American Fuck For Dollars series. Now it seems to be stepmom seduces son or getting caught in the act.

I saw 'Super Mario', another of Ben Dover's trusty swordsmen in Soho looking decidedly not 'Super'. When I said hello he mumbled incoherently at me. Also I think he keeps "Just for Men" in business judging by how grey his hair was.

[Ghost89]

I do recall in the 90’s a resurgence in pissing scenes, especially in the European porn from the likes of maximum perversum. Never really liked that kind of thing but the other stuff was usually pretty good. I don’t really remember any stars as such.

[Liverpool]

I do recall in the 90’s a resurgence in pissing scenes, especially in the European porn from the likes of maximum perversum. Never really liked that kind of thing but the other stuff was usually pretty good. I don’t really remember any stars as such.

Annette Schwarz and Meridian spring to mind. Meridian also did fisting scenes as well. Great looking woman.

[Ghost89]

Annette Schwarz and Meridian spring to mind. Meridian also did fisting scenes as well. Great looking woman.

I’ll have to google them.
Yes they did enjoy fisting in those. They went at it like they were washing a sink full of pots.

[smiths]

Ben Dover does do way too much talking, some of his banter is hilarious though as is Phil Barrie's.

Interesting that all the men who have worked with Ben Dover are still at it. As well as Pascal, Omar Williams springs to mind.

I think that thing of picking a woman off the street got old fast and has died off. Last one I saw with that format was the American Fuck For Dollars series. Now it seems to be stepmom seduces son or getting caught in the act.

Pascal is a really nasty piece of work or he was when I met him a few times 10 years or so ago. He was with an LMP party WG at the time and treated her like shit in front of punters when he came to pick her up. She was trying to make a name for herself in porn at the time name of Kelly Marina, a good party WG for the 3 months I punted with her at LMP before she left.

Themed porn was/is really big in the US, yes stepmom with the son or daughter, mom and daughter do the daughters boyfriend with mom showing daughter how to keep him happy etc etc. I always go for the reverse gangbang theme, or at least FFM or FFFM.

[BJrimmer]

Super Mario had his own Adult channel show called ‘Superdick’ around the time he started working with Ben Dover.

He lives in Sutton, or did. I saw him around the town many times.

The Fake Taxi guy (John) also lives in Sutton. I’ve seen him in the bank, and numerous times doing his food shopping in M&S.

The majority of his Fake Taxi scenes are in & around the area.

[sparkus]

Super Mario had his own Adult channel show called ‘Superdick’ around the time he started working with Ben Dover.

He lives in Sutton, or did. I saw him around the town many times.

The Fake Taxi guy (John) also lives in Sutton. I’ve seen him in the bank, and numerous times doing his food shopping in M&S.

The majority of his Fake Taxi scenes are in & around the area.

I remember 'Superdick' well, was always post club viewing.  My god the Indian bird he once got to fuck

[Ghost89]

Pascal is a really nasty piece of work or he was when I met him a few times 10 years or so ago. He was with an LMP party WG at the time and treated her like shit in front of punters when he came to pick her up. She was trying to make a name for herself in porn at the time name of Kelly Marina, a good party WG for the 3 months I punted with her at LMP before she left.

Themed porn was/is really big in the US, yes stepmom with the son or daughter, mom and daughter do the daughters boyfriend with mom showing daughter how to keep him happy etc etc. I always go for the reverse gangbang theme, or at least FFM or FFFM.

I don’t like anything that Pascal does. By the sound of it he’s taking his onscreen persona into off screen and being a complete cunt. I don’t find anything he does remotely good and it makes me cringe watching the way he treats women. Dick Nasty used to be like that and I hated that too. Slapping them about and making them retch to the point of nearly throwing up.

[DrGFreeman]

was porn 25 years ago that different ?
Ive been investigating closely since the mid 90s and I dont think that much
maybe its a little harder in general, but there was more extreme stuff with fisting and pissing etc in the 90s too

I think the technology has changed
I always thought the gonzo era starting in the 90s was because camera/editing equipment had come down enough in price to be accessible for one-man-bands rather than big studios
and the cameras were then small enough to be used in the action rather than on a tripod

I also think there was more glamor in porn then, because physical sales of dvds meant they made serious money
since the advent of the tube sites, there money for the creators has gone

[smiths]

I don’t like anything that Pascal does. By the sound of it he’s taking his onscreen persona into off screen and being a complete cunt. I don’t find anything he does remotely good and it makes me cringe watching the way he treats women. Dick Nasty used to be like that and I hated that too. Slapping them about and making them retch to the point of nearly throwing up.

Dick Nasty went on for years, he looked like a pensioner in some pornos. One of the very worst for this was Max Hardcore and in fact I saw a documentary years ago where Dick Nasty took an English porn wannabe to the US to work for Hardcore and Nasty was telling her Hardcore likes choking women with his cock, she then goes to see Hardcore while Nasty waits and comes back nearly crying.

[smiths]

was porn 25 years ago that different ?
Ive been investigating closely since the mid 90s and I dont think that much
maybe its a little harder in general, but there was more extreme stuff with fisting and pissing etc in the 90s too

I think the technology has changed
I always thought the gonzo era starting in the 90s was because camera/editing equipment had come down enough in price to be accessible for one-man-bands rather than big studios
and the cameras were then small enough to be used in the action rather than on a tripod

I also think there was more glamor in porn then, because physical sales of dvds meant they made serious money
since the advent of the tube sites, there money for the creators has gone

The porn I watched was different 25 years ago as it was mostly storyboarded with loads of wasting time doing so called acting for some reason. In Europe there was lots of pissing porn about then including women pissing into their knickers here. The big US studios got more extreme over time to sell their porn, so DP became DP plus another cock in the pussy, then an additional one in the arse. I met and spoke to Eric Everhard years ago now and he said it was like a nuclear arms race, one studio did something harder and the rest followed suit matching them, and so on and on.

Nowadays you have blokes like Mike Adriano doing rosebud porn with women of 20 risking serious anal prolapse damage if they haven't already done the damage. Of course these women are adults and its up to them what they do, I am a big Adriano fan but mainly his swallowed.com oral only pornos.

[Colston36]

Why are you getting all American with the "suck" 

What about the tossers who write "anyways" with a needless "s" or "multiple" instead of many?

[spiralnotebook]

Anyone remember ‘Animal Farm’? 

[Ali Katt]

Anyone remember ‘Animal Farm’? 

Also 100% illegal to watch now.

[Ghost89]

Also 100% illegal to watch now.

Hated that book.