You wouldn't know the first thing about "logic" if it was a ring through yer nose, 'Shade'.
Evidently you don't know the first thing about politics, psychology, or any other subject, I'd bet; nor how to argue your way out of the proverbial paper bag, even with full 'elf 'n safety instructions.
Okay, perhaps I over-reacted in my initial post, I apologise, and should have put it in more careful ways. But that's needlessly rude, you don't know anything about me - and to suggest I don't know the first thing about "any other subject" is just plain bizarre.
I'd be interested in having a reasonable discussion about your thoughts if that's possible though. The first statement that bothered me is this:
"No ordinary, normal man in any way hates women; the problem is very much the reverse: there are deep biological roots of prejudice towards men generically (the great bulk of necessary lower-status men), and nothing corresponding re women."
I just don't believe that to be the case at all. Women have been on the receiving end of a male dominated society for centuries, and whilst things are slowly changing, in many ways women still have it far far worse than men do. Look at how rape victims are often treated, and the hideously low conviction rate for instance.
And why do you think that there are "deep biological roots of prejudice towards men" - are you suggesting that from birth men are denegrated and looked down upon? As I see very little evidence of that. Sure, some people may treat men like that, but given how our society is structured, it's clear that that is not the case all of the time.
This was the comment that really bothered me though:
"Anyone who uses the term 'misogynist' is a misandrist."
Because I don't think that's true. Going back to your first statement - "No ordinary, normal man in any way hates women" that's very true. But unfortunately there are a lot of men who don't fit that description. Men who have had hideous upbringings, men who have had events happen to them which have led them to hate women, and men who unfortunately from various ages are psychologically unwell. I've met some in real life, and it's horrible to see. It shouldn't be the case, but it is.
And before anyone suggests otherwise - the exact opposite applies to women too of course, and in both cases - men and women - it's all rather tragic that life has turned them in to that person.
So to suggest that anyone who uses the term misogynist automatically hates men, well, I think that's just not correct at all. Sorry. But I do think that's the case.
I'd be interested in your view though, and if you can provide evidence to back up your beliefs I'd be fascinated to read it.