Where do you stand on R.O?

[rowdow]

What has attraction got to do with anything, it's a paid encounter not a date. 

Most punts have an element of YMMV. Whether guys want to admit it or not, some do deliver RO to SPs in an effort to receive a better punt.

If you were a male escort i’m sure you would provide a good service to whoever pays but they’ll be some girls you give a better service to purely because you find them attractive even if they do give you a terrible BJ. At the same time there’ll be other girls you would do the bare minimum with even if they provide you with an excellent Bj purely because you find them unattractive.

SPs are human too and attraction does play a part in how well a SP will treat a punter. How people look, dress, smell, talk, behave, all add up to overall attraction. My point was, delivering RO in the effort to receive a better service from an SP can be a waste of time because at the end of the day, the overall service is due mainly to her professionalism and her attraction to the punter.

I know some guys love RO, everyone is free to do whatever they want. Just my opinion whether you agree or don’t.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Most punts have an element of YMMV. Whether guys want to admit it or not, some do deliver RO to SPs in an effort to receive a better punt.

If you were a male escort i’m sure you would provide a good service to whoever pays but they’ll be some girls you give a better service to purely because you find them attractive even if they do give you a terrible BJ. At the same time there’ll be other girls you would do the bare minimum with even if they provide you with an excellent Bj purely because you find them unattractive.

SPs are human too and attraction does play a part in how well a SP will treat a punter. How people look, dress, smell, talk, behave, all add up to overall attraction. My point was, delivering RO in the effort to receive a better service from an SP can be a waste of time because at the end of the day, the overall service is due mainly to her professionalism and her attraction to the punter.

I know some guys love RO, everyone is free to do whatever they want. Just my opinion whether you agree or don’t.

I agree 100% with this. Although it is a paid encounter the level of service can change depending on how the punter is perchieved by the wg. There are of course girls were it is extremely hard (close to impossible) to move the needle.

[signy]

I agree 100% with this. Although it is a paid encounter the level of service can change depending on how the punter is perchieved by the wg. There are of course girls were it is extremely hard (close to impossible) to move the needle.

I agree in general, but I would suggest that it is very easy to move the needle in the "worse service" direction; just turn up unclean, be rude, mess her about, etc. Much more difficult to move the needle in the "better service" direction.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I agree in general, but I would suggest that it is very easy to move the needle in the "worse service" direction; just turn up unclean, be rude, mess her about, etc. Much more difficult to move the needle in the "better service" direction.

Good point. i must confess I wasn't thinking about a reduction in service levels but you are right the YMMV can go in either direction.

[DLOGAN]

civvies only for me. this particular hobby is already a roll of the dice on STDs, even DFK and OWO come with an element of risk. i have no desire to add to that.

[daviemac]

Most punts have an element of YMMV. Whether guys want to admit it or not, some do deliver RO to SPs in an effort to receive a better punt.

If you were a male escort i’m sure you would provide a good service to whoever pays but they’ll be some girls you give a better service to purely because you find them attractive even if they do give you a terrible BJ. At the same time there’ll be other girls you would do the bare minimum with even if they provide you with an excellent Bj purely because you find them unattractive.

SPs are human too and attraction does play a part in how well a SP will treat a punter. How people look, dress, smell, talk, behave, all add up to overall attraction. My point was, delivering RO in the effort to receive a better service from an SP can be a waste of time because at the end of the day, the overall service is due mainly to her professionalism and her attraction to the punter.

I know some guys love RO, everyone is free to do whatever they want. Just my opinion whether you agree or don’t.

That is not what I asked about, it was this comment.

Furthermore, a girl decides within the first 10secs of meeting you whether she's attracted to you or not.

are you really suggesting that when the girl, who is younger than my granddaughter, jumps on my knee and starts DFKing me before I've got my boxers off does so because she finds me attractive,    because I don't believe it. 

If you are giving RO in an effort to get a better service you have the wrong idea about punting. Punting is about doing with a female what you enjoy doing with a female or what you enjoy having a female do to you and the escort concerned should be receptive to that within the limits of any boundaries she has set.

I have never understood the idea of not doing something because the escort might enjoy it, I like the look, feel and taste of a woman's body so I hand over a wad of cash to look at, feel and taste her body, in return she pretends to be attracted to me. For me RO is a major part of the punt, I do it because I enjoy it, if the escort does as well then that's a bonus for her.

[hendrix]

That is not what I asked about, it was this comment.  are you really suggesting that when the girl, who is younger than my granddaughter, jumps on my knee and starts DFKing me before I've got my boxers off does so because she finds me attractive,    because I don't believe it. 

If you are giving RO in an effort to get a better service you have the wrong idea about punting. Punting is about doing with a female what you enjoy doing with a female or what you enjoy having a female do to you and the escort concerned should be receptive to that within the limits of any boundaries she has set.

I have never understood the idea of not doing something because the escort might enjoy it, I like the look, feel and taste of a woman's body so I hand over a wad of cash to look at, feel and taste her body, in return she pretends to be attracted to me. For me RO is a major part of the punt, I do it because I enjoy it, if the escort does as well then that's a bonus for her.

In my case at least, it's because I don't enjoy it.

[Stevelondon]

I agree in general, but I would suggest that it is very easy to move the needle in the "worse service" direction; just turn up unclean, be rude, mess her about, etc. Much more difficult to move the needle in the "better service" direction.

Let’s face it. If your turning up to a punt with rotten teeth and bad breath. Your more than likely to write a review saying the SP did not provide DFK.

[Doc Holliday]

If you are concerned about herpes risk then you need to avoid sexual contact full stop. Barrier methods have very reduced efficacy in preventing transmission of this highly contagious virus. Your risk will depend more on the number of sexual contacts you have rather than condom use. As for 'dental dams,' outside of dentistry, their use is almost non existent.

Someone gave some data on HSV 1 and 2 above, but it is important to remember that oral herpes and genital herpes are highly prevalent in the population and for most are minor conditions should you be infected. Once you are infected, it is for life and most people who are infected are symptomless (but may still pass it on)

Vaccine development has proved difficult to date, although we now have a very effective vaccine for HPV which in terms of sexual transmission is very similar to HSV, but has been potentially a much more serious virus due to its links with cancers. It is also highly prevalent and risk is also related to number of sexual exposures and with the same reduced efficacy by barrier methods.

[meptalon]

I for one wouldn't even book the girl if she's not offering RO. If nothing is announced, I check that it is offered when booking. So for me it's a must. I enjoy doing it, and usually so does the receiver

[LLPunting]

Most punts have an element of YMMV. Whether guys want to admit it or not, some do deliver RO to SPs in an effort to receive a better punt.

If you were a male escort i’m sure you would provide a good service to whoever pays but they’ll be some girls you give a better service to purely because you find them attractive even if they do give you a terrible BJ. At the same time there’ll be other girls you would do the bare minimum with even if they provide you with an excellent Bj purely because you find them unattractive.

SPs are human too and attraction does play a part in how well a SP will treat a punter. How people look, dress, smell, talk, behave, all add up to overall attraction. My point was, delivering RO in the effort to receive a better service from an SP can be a waste of time because at the end of the day, the overall service is due mainly to her professionalism and her attraction to the punter.

I know some guys love RO, everyone is free to do whatever they want. Just my opinion whether you agree or don’t.

The "professionalism" you speak of is rarely exhibited by SPs as a whole and typically exhibited by those charging more per hour than is usually paid by the majority of contributors here in London and likely more widely.  "Attraction" due to anything other than the value the SPs attaches to the amount of money she's demanding is rarely significant.

SPs can be inhibited for a whole host of powerful (and often legitimate) reasons, many of which trump most everything that a punter can bring to the game, even money.  Any SP can be in the mood or having a mood.  However if you manage to break through the rational and psychological barriers she has for your encounter then you may be able to activate her sexual response.  IF that response is part of a punter's sexual need then he will try whichever methods he can with whatever talents he has, RO skills being one of them, swordsmanship maybe another, fingers another, etc.  The vast majority of the contributors here demonstrate little interest in pleasuring the women they pay yet they will chase after the SPs who are reported to be "genuinely" responsive.   

[Fuggedaboutit]

I don't stand for RO, I generally kneel...

[The Owl]

I enjoy RO. Some escorts like it and some escorts play along, so as long as they're fresh and clean everything's good.

I have had a couple of escorts that gave me the impression they either didn't like RO or didn't like my technique for RO. A bit of a disappointment in one case but that's just the way it is.

I have no problems eating the pussy of an escort who doesn't do OWO. It's up to me to check her likes lists when I book her. As long as she's honest with her likes it's all on me.

An unclean vagina is the deal breaker. It's like fucking a clueless civvie, of which there are so many it's no longer funny.

[Craggy]

RO is a must for me. I could spent the whole 30 mins doing it. A squirter is even better. I no longer book SPs who don't do OWO so it working both ways is not an issue anyway.

[LLPunting]

For those who've said "I do it because I enjoy it"  are you genuinely deriving pleasure only from the fact you're licking a pussy or is the response of the woman to your administrations a key factor in your accompanying enjoyment?

[val33]

I am sure if this had been the case, the Gonorea, would have been in your throat, and nothing to do with your cock. I am not an expert and maybe somebody else on hear could give some more information.

Exactly, it was a nasty strain of gonorrhoea tested positive via throat swab.

[Briddy]

For those who've said "I do it because I enjoy it"  are you genuinely deriving pleasure only from the fact you're licking a pussy or is the response of the woman to your administrations a key factor in your accompanying enjoyment?

for me it's a bit of both I enjoy licking pussy and it sets me up for the main event as it really turns me on, if the girl is enjoying it and making appreciative noises 'wether genuine or well acted' adds to the experience for me

[Doc Holliday]

For those who've said "I do it because I enjoy it"  are you genuinely deriving pleasure only from the fact you're licking a pussy or is the response of the woman to your administrations a key factor in your accompanying enjoyment?

I like to make those fake moaning noises when I give oral .. rather like the inexplicable ones some wg's make when giving a blow job 

Seriously, I fail to see how anyone can get enjoyment from it if there is no response? For me it has to be a genuine response.

[Moby Dick]

I prefer to kneel, can’t do it standing unless she is upside down in a standing 69, and even that is too risky for my back.

[J198]

I personally get no enjoyment out of it so there's no way I'm going to do it with a SP as I'm paying for my pleasure not hers.

[LLPunting]

I like to make those fake moaning noises when I give oral .. rather like the inexplicable ones some wg's make when giving a blow job 

Seriously, I fail to see how anyone can get enjoyment from it if there is no response? For me it has to be a genuine response.

As much as I'd enjoy the complaint of an SP bemoaning my fake moaning, I couldn't fake vocalisations during sex because I'd corpse, which might do wonders for bonding with the girl but certainly debilitates any immediate sexual action.

[Doc Holliday]

As much as I'd enjoy the complaint of an SP bemoaning my fake moaning, I couldn't fake vocalisations during sex because I'd corpse,

  I did try it once during a horrendous session, when I faked and orgasm, but couldn't hack it and burst into giggles.

[winkywanky]

Close enough to reach with my tongue. About 6 feet.

  

[winkywanky]

A few times I have gotten rather carried away with RO and Rimming a girl, if she tastes good and I am turned on (the former will lead to the latter) then I can be in my own little world of taste sensations for a good few minutes.

Under those circumstances there is frequently a gratifying response form the owner of said orifices, but if there isn't, I will slaver away to my heart's content anyway, until I either want some reciprocation or I'll don a condom and jump aboard for the finalé. It's my pleasure, and I'm paying for it, it's not to please the girl or purposely to elicit some kind of response from her.

There was one pretty young thing I saw a few years ago who tasted amazing, she outcalled to me (after initially seeing her incall at a hotel) and I realised that she tasted the way she did because she would get turned on from one or two previous punts and what I was tasting was her (and no, she didn't bareback  ). She'd take a quick shower on arrival but the events of her evening meant that by the time I saw her (normally quite late) she was literally dripping pheromones  . It did help that she had an amazing body, nevertheless her scent drove me a little nuts.

[Bond]

For those who've said "I do it because I enjoy it"  are you genuinely deriving pleasure only from the fact you're licking a pussy or is the response of the woman to your administrations a key factor in your accompanying enjoyment?

I love the taste and smell.

I also love the submissive angle to it. I don't do any 'formal' BDSM stuff but I approach sex with a BDSM mindset. If I'm fucking or receiving a BJ I feel dominant and I like it, if I'm giving RO (even in 69) I feel submissive and I like it too. I guess I'm a switch.

Moaning actually turns me off because I get paranoid that the girl is faking and wants me to move on. But I love it when the girl gets genuinely aroused. Her pussy changes. It gets softer, looser, wetter and yummier.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

For those who've said "I do it because I enjoy it"  are you genuinely deriving pleasure only from the fact you're licking a pussy or is the response of the woman to your administrations a key factor in your accompanying enjoyment?

I have no idea why I enjoy it but I do. I also like licking and sucking nipples so mabe its some Freudian oral fixation as kissing is also an important factor for me for the perfect punt.

[adindas]

I really enjoy eating pussy and want to do it in every punt regardless if owo is on offer or not. I will also rim an sp even if she doesn’t offer that service on me. Obviously this is dependent on the hygiene of the wg. The wetter she gets the better

Same here If i would have to choose between blowjob (with or without rubber) and licking pussy, I will choose licking pussy. Obviously this is dependent on the hygiene of the wgas well as you do not want anywhere near a stink pussy.

For some people, eating pussies are part of their diet, like eating exotic meat.

[RobinBrod]

Putting in my 3pence worth1

I always give RO. Partly because I enjoy giving pleasure, and partly because if the SP is enjoying herself she'll give me more pleasure. Also I enjoy doing it, and the taste. Very rarely have I not enjoyed it - when the SP, for example, has filled herself with lube. That moment when her thighs tense up and her hands grip my head tighter .....

[meptalon]

For those who've said "I do it because I enjoy it"  are you genuinely deriving pleasure only from the fact you're licking a pussy or is the response of the woman to your administrations a key factor in your accompanying enjoyment?

For me, the response of the woman is key. If I see that she doesn't like it at all or seems stone cold indifferent (happened twice), then it's a turn-off. And usually, anything else without response is a turn-off for me, not just RO.

Whether expertly faked or actual, pleasure shown is *the* major turn-on for me and I then know the session will be great.

[meptalon]

for me it's a bit of both I enjoy licking pussy and it sets me up for the main event as it really turns me on, if the girl is enjoying it and making appreciative noises 'wether genuine or well acted' adds to the experience for me

+1

[scutty brown]

To answer the OPs question "Where do you stand on R.O?", I don't. I always lie down or kneel.
Standing RO is only possible if the girl can hold and balance a handstand while orgasming. Not many can

[sparkus]

To answer the OPs question "Where do you stand on R.O?", I don't. I always lie down or kneel.
Standing RO is only possible if the girl can hold and balance a handstand while orgasming. Not many can

I have stood at the foot of a massage table a few times but it's generally best to get her to sit on your face and grind anyway.

I've said on her a few times I generally don't go down on certain kinds of WGs and nothing from my civvy life tells me black vag is tasty so I generally don't push for it when on punts.  My choice.  However, I was once confronted with an ebony WG who was so fit I'd lick her shit off an unpinned hand grenade and I went down only to be told no.  She then said that RO was something she "really liked" so didn't do it with punters, only boyfriends.  I've found that boundary before, massage birds who eventually relent after a few meets and allow you inside them but don't agree to RO because it's too intimate.

[OakTree]

I used to without fail give RO, mainly because I enjoyed it and partly with the misconception that I’d do such a good job she’d fuck me with more realism. The reality more often than not is she’d lie back, throw in a few moans and groans and words of encouragement like, "that’s it babe just keep licking it there" and before you knew it half the time had gone and she’d had to do fuck all but lie there.

Now I just do it if I really feel like it. It has made no difference to how they perform wether I do it or not.

The idea that you think you’re really going to blow them away with your tried and trusted technique is delusional. You’ll never know if the reaction is real and it’s highly unlikely anyway as she’d of been licked out by hundreds if not thousands of other pussy licking alphabet spelling (do people really do that?) experts. 

[Jimmy83]

I usually only do RO when I'm 69ing since I just feel awkward when the girl is giving me a BJ and I'm just lying there. Might as well make myself useful.

Plus, some escorts use flavoured lube and it actually tastes quite nice. Granted you're not actually tasting her pussy but it would be weird to drink the lube directly out of the bottle.

There's also the fact that it provides good practice for those times when you're with a Civvie and need to make a good impression.

Will she provide a better service if you do RO? 99% of the time, probably not. She's not going to offer anything extra but she might be a little less moody and play along a bit more and that will always improve a punt.

[bbwandy72]

I love it. Bring it on at every opportunity. Regardless of whether the SP is offering OWO or not.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I usually only do RO when I'm 69ing since I just feel awkward when the girl is giving me a BJ and I'm just lying there. Might as well make myself useful.

69'ing is the one thing I never do with wg's. I love both giving and receiving oral but prefer to have one at a time. If I'm being blown then I'll I want to think about is the sensations from my cock and not have to worry about my next move on her.

[Munter84]

69'ing is the one thing I never do with wg's. I love both giving and receiving oral but prefer to have one at a time. If I'm being blown then I'll I want to think about is the sensations from my cock and not have to worry about my next move on her.

Agreed, 69 is one of those positions that is sexier in your imagination than in reality. I think both people enjoy it more when they're taking turns to do the work or lay back and enjoy. Still, I do like recieving a bj with the girl in 69 position, just for the fantastic view and the fact I can grab/hug the girl tightly.

[cardinal_sin]

In civvie life, I enjoy half an hour or more of licking pussy, fingering, touching and reducing a woman to jelly before I get my cock into her. Making it a 69 generally makes it difficult for either party to concentrate on doing a good job.

However, when punting, oral always covered for safety, and that largely kills any idea of RO.

[Longshot]

For those who've said "I do it because I enjoy it"  are you genuinely deriving pleasure only from the fact you're licking a pussy or is the response of the woman to your administrations a key factor in your accompanying enjoyment?

Both.  Mainly because i like doing it but if she gets off on it its a bonus. 

[cim_lover]

Never used to like RO, but in the last 2 years can't get enough of it but only at the start of the punt. very rarely I do RO for round 2 don't know why but mentally I just can't get into it.

[LLPunting]

Thanks to those who replied above about why they RO.

For me an SP who enjoys RO (or convincingly pretends to) makes me feel as though I've had a better punt, all part of the fantasy.     If she doesn't allow, I don't book, if she charges extra I don't book, if she refuses it during it usually confirms what a shit punt it's turning out to be.  Rare are the SPs who are convincingly good at most other services such that RO couldn't make it better.

It's much like the WSWS aspect of FBSM or the SP who gets into kissing, but that's very much a part of the GFE/passion component of sex and whether you want that as part of a punt.  However RO can be very disarming or at least an indication that she's willing to be "disarmed", any dead fish behaviour at this point usually indicates you should've bailed on the punt much earlier. 

[Jonestown]

maggie clarke made a funny observation a few years back, "you can always tell a guy has got a small cock, the first thing he does when you get under the duvet, is go down on your muff"

Your Maggie Clarke sounds like a nasty bit of work, who is she ?

[LLPunting]

Your Maggie Clarke sounds like a nasty bit of work, who is she ?

Of course it may be because he can't stand the look of her face, or anything else above the hips.

[luv2kiss54]

It's not really for me personally, and the STD talk in this thread makes me feel better about that choice.

+1 just doesn't appeal, you just dont know who has been there b4 you ! Oh yeah its you dirty f.....s

[MrRaunchy2]

I absolutely love licking pussy, wouldn't book a girl who doesn't offer RO.

[sparkus]

I absolutely love licking pussy, wouldn't book a girl who doesn't offer RO.

Plenty don't.

[marcius2018]

I used to love doing it, but I've become more and more cautious.
I love getting down in the vicinity, as I'm fingering and inhaling the womanly scent! I love it when there is a scent....long as it's a good one. There is nothing ruins the event more than a bad scent (even worse than a bad attitude!)....thankfully that's been a rare occurrence.

[sparkus]

I used to love doing it, but I've become more and more cautious.
I love getting down in the vicinity, as I'm fingering and inhaling the womanly scent! I love it when there is a scent....long as it's a good one. There is nothing ruins the event more than a bad scent (even worse than a bad attitude!)....thankfully that's been a rare occurrence.

What hasn't been discussed is that to fully enjoy it then women have to be skilled recipients as well as you being a skilled provider.  Nothing better than a bird using her heels on your neck to guide you or showing you where she wants your hands.

One Thai bird started fingering herself vigorously for about five seconds at the end and drenched me, I loved that.

[aaron010]

Concerned with STDs I tend to give this a pass. I dont even go for OWO no me. Its all wrapped up.

I have been looking to getting some dental dams. There are some forums that advise to cut open a regular condom but, not sure this works fine.

[cideruk]

I'd try and avoid booking a OW only SP

But will do RO as the more into it they get the better and more real the punt feels.