Amsterdam or Prague?

[Taztaz]

First punting trip away, heard these are the best destinations in terms of the best looking girls?

Those who have been, which would you reccommend and why?

Thanks

[garfield]

Never been to prague, personally think Amsterdam is utter shite

Have a look at spain or germany

[DaVINCI]

Never been to Amsterdam, but been loads of times to Prague and it is a Fantastic city, there is the usual Tourist nightspots that are expensive but if you are prepared to put the effort in there is good SP in the flats.

Showpark Market is a must 

[garfield]

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Massage princess place in prague looks good

[adindas]

First punting trip away, heard these are the best destinations in terms of the best looking girls?

Those who have been, which would you reccommend and why?

Thanks

If you have no other business other than punting than Amsterdam is a no-go area. Amsterdam was good about two decades ago, but not anymore. The place has been spoilt by a lot of tourists.

Especially in RLD area, it is well known as a rip off place for non-experience punters (such as tourists). If you do not negotiate in advance than you are already in the hook, once in the room everything is extra. They know that if you are tourist you will not become a repeat customers anyway, so why not try to rip you off. If you do not negotiate for EUR 50-60 you only get suck for about ten minutes, fuck will cost you extra.

Do your Search on this UKP and you will find a lot of people were saying the same thing,

Prague is good if you try to avoid the nightclub in the city centre. Focus your search for “Privat”. Alternatively you might want to try "Show Park" but show park is now becoming more expensive.

[vindici]

First punting trip away, heard these are the best destinations in terms of the best looking girls?

Who said that?

Everyone has different tastes, if you prefer Latinas or Black chicks, those wouldn't be "the best".

There are stunners everywhere, some places are more punting friendly than others. If it's your first punting trip away, I'd focus on a place where punting is readily available, hopefully legal and easy for a foreigner to access.

If those are the only two places you wish to consider, then Prague would be better of the two. Amsterdam is a total rip off, and your chances of getting any decent service for a decent price are slim to none. Honestly the UK scene is much, much better value.

[pusfunman]

Amsterdam is by no means a good plan for punting. In fact if I was in Amsterdam for work I'd be getting on a train or rental car and getting myself to other cities or even Germany for some action!

Prague is not bad. As someone else has said a night in Showpark is an experience. On weekends there is a strip bar that you can chill in downstairs.

Make sure you try out FKKs, they are a monger's must in my opinion

[Taztaz]

Who said that?

Everyone has different tastes, if you prefer Latinas or Black chicks, those wouldn't be "the best".

There are stunners everywhere, some places are more punting friendly than others. If it's your first punting trip away, I'd focus on a place where punting is readily available, hopefully legal and easy for a foreigner to access.

If those are the only two places you wish to consider, then Prague would be better of the two. Amsterdam is a total rip off, and your chances of getting any decent service for a decent price are slim to none. Honestly the UK scene is much, much better value.

Thanks for opinions guys. Taking all on board.

Just what I've heard from friends. In the U.K , unless you're willing to spend a lot of money, I've never seen an attractive girl, for me personally. Lucky if you turn up and she is a 6/10.

Wheras the windows in Amsterdam, I've seen good looking women. Granted the service may be poor, but I don't want to pay for girls I'm not attracted too.

[Malvolio]

Your definition of attractive might be different to most punters if you think you have to pay high prices to see an attractive girl in the UK.

These two were at £130 and £100 for the hour.

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[vindici]

Wheras the windows in Amsterdam, I've seen good looking women. Granted the service may be poor...

I guess you've not been punting long, if at all. If you do this for a long time, you'll change your mind pretty quickly about paying for poor service. It'll affect your mental health, self confidence as well as your wallet in the end.

[adindas]

Wheras the windows in Amsterdam, I've seen good looking women. Granted the service may be poor, but I don't want to pay for girls I'm not attracted too.

I think you form that opinion because you have not seen other places. The same things when you just believe what your friend was telling you that In the U.K you have to spend a lot of money to find a good looking girls. Many reports in this forum itself already prove it that they are wrong.

You will find many stunners in Showpark in Prague. Similarly, to “privat in Prague if you want to spend time searching. Even better than the one you see with window shopping in Amsterdam.

You will find many stunners if have time wandering from one FKK to another FKK in Germany.

[Taztaz]

Your definition of attractive might be different to most punters if you think you have to pay high prices to see an attractive girl in the UK.

These two were at £130 and £100 for the hour.

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Yeah, both of which I wouldn't pay that amount of money to have sex with, as I'm better looking than both and would easily pull women on par or better on a night out for free.

I will sound like a nob saying it, but I'm a good looking guy. I want to punt for the experience and also because I don't want the hassle of courting/pulling/ texting women, i just want sex.

So i think you may be correct that my definition is different to most.

[adindas]

Yeah, both of which I wouldn't pay that amount of money to have sex with, as I'm better looking than both and would easily pull women on par or better on a night out for free.

I will sound like a nob saying it, but I'm a good looking guy. I want to punt for the experience and also because I don't want the hassle of courting/pulling/ texting women, i just want sex.

Woukd you please provide example of what you consider attractive, so the people might be able to help you with info. Links to website, videos, pictures, etc  might be useful

[Taztaz]

I think you form that opinion because you have not seen other places. The same things when you just believe what your friend was telling you that In the U.K you have to spend a lot of money to find a good looking girls. Many reports in this forum itself already prove it that they are wrong.

You will find many stunners in Showpark in Prague. Similarly, to “privat in Prague if you want to spend time searching. Even better than the one you see with window shopping in Amsterdam.

You will find many stunners if have time wandering from one FKK to another FKK in Germany.

Thank you, I will do some searching on prague and Germany
 

[Taztaz]

Woukd you please provide example of what you consider attractive, so the people might be able to help you with info. Links to website, videos, pictures, etc  might be useful

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Something on par with that. Not necessarily that look, don't mind whether the girl is latina, European etc. Just that standard of attractiveness.

[Casey69]

Amsterdam is a waste of time these days, rip off central.
The Hague is much better, but may not have enough young stunners for you.
German RLDs can be hit & miss and you waste so much energy on all of those fucking stairs.

When it opens again, take yourself to Sharks FKK in Darmstadt.
More stunning young women than you can get round in a long weekend.
IMHO far better than your example above.

[Taztaz]

Amsterdam is a waste of time these days, rip off central.
The Hague is much better, but may not have enough young stunners for you.
German RLDs can be hit & miss and you waste so much energy on all of those fucking stairs.

When it opens again, take yourself to Sharks FKK in Darmstadt.
More stunning young women than you can get round in a long weekend.
IMHO far better than your example above.

Brilliant, thank you for providing your experience. Will look into Darmstadt.

[jaydefo24]

Yeah, both of which I wouldn't pay that amount of money to have sex with, as I'm better looking than both and would easily pull women on par or better on a night out for free.

I will sound like a nob saying it, but I'm a good looking guy. I want to punt for the experience and also because I don't want the hassle of courting/pulling/ texting women, i just want sex.

So i think you may be correct that my definition is different to most.

You sound likes someone I wouldn’t wish to meet

[Michael48]

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Something on par with that. Not necessarily that look, don't mind whether the girl is latina, European etc. Just that standard of attractiveness.

Each to their own,  personally I don't find her lips or ass attractive, and the tat between her breasts is a bog turn off

[JayEZ2K]

I would not recommend Amsterdam. I have been there and punted there twice (5 punts total), both as a newbie and again as a veteran. As mentioned, the Amsterdam scene has evolved to rip off tourists with poor service. There as some decent and good ones there, but finding them would require following their local forum to know the exact days, times, and locations.

Den Hague was much better in both service and price (30 euro for 15 minute punts), but the majority of the ladies were not that attractive. Some attractive roms but with the weaker of the service, and the others are mostly ladies from the dominican republic; big boobs and butts and great service, but fat. It's an easy way to boost your punt count, but unless you had business there, or were just enamored with the idea RLD window shopping, I don't think it worthwhile to plan a trip around it.

[Taztaz]

You sound likes someone I wouldn’t wish to meet

That's fine mate, you don't have to, nor comment on the thread.

I just say things how they are, sorry if that makes you insecure or offends you.

Thanks everybody else for your advice, going to look into the fkk's in germany instead.

[adindas]

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Something on par with that. Not necessarily that look, don't mind whether the girl is latina, European etc. Just that standard of attractiveness.

It seems you like Latinas look. The best place for you is probably Spain. You want find many girls like that in Show park or in FKK  in Germany as the girls normally come from Eastern Europe.
To me she is not attractive. There are reasonable number of the girls like that in the UK, you just need to search it via adult works.

In the past you could banged many Brazilian girls in the London Sex adult Party (LSAP) and some of them are better than the girl you mention.

[adindas]

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Something on par with that. Not necessarily that look, don't mind whether the girl is latina, European etc. Just that standard of attractiveness.

You like that type because of Silicon Boobs, Buttocks, Lips, or because of her looks ??

I forgot to mention that in FKK Germany, there are quite reasonable number of mixed-race EE (Romanian) + Gypsies in FKK. Also a few are from mixed race Caribbean (Dominican Republic). They are tons of them as you know FKK are invaded by Romanians. They look quite similar (in my personal opinion) but I do not touch them as I have a different preference.

I prefer a reasonably tall blond, possibly with blue eyes and of course good looking (possibly stunning) based on my view. For that reason why I like the place like Czech Republic, Poland or Eastern European Countries.

[Casey69]

Den Hague was much better in both service and price (30 euro for 15 minute punts), but the majority of the ladies were not that attractive. Some attractive roms but with the weaker of the service, and the others are mostly ladies from the dominican republic; big boobs and butts and great service, but fat. It's an easy way to boost your punt count, but unless you had business there, or were just enamored with the idea RLD window shopping, I don't think it worthwhile to plan a trip around it.

When were you last in Den Haag?
The number of hot young EE’s has steadily increased over the last few years.
It does go up and down. There are groups of girls who come and go together.
Yes, there’s still a number of South American MILF’s & GILS’s on Doubletstraat.
Most are permanent fixtures and have been for decades.
The going rate went up last year to €35, on Doubletstraat.

Night time is best for the young and the hot, on both Doubletstraat & Geleenstrat.
Going rate on Geleenstraat is still €50.

There are some superstars to be found.

[JayEZ2K]

Thanks for the update on Den Hague. I only got a brief snapshot of the city during the summer of 2018. I punted exclusively at Doubletstraat, but regularly went window shopping at Geleenstrat. I didn't punt at Galeenstrat due partly to the higher price, but mostly due to a vibe that their service might not be as good. I'd probably enjoy punting in Den Hague a bit more if there were more hot young EE's you mentioned, and if they also had decent service. Actually,  one I punted was smoking hot with pretty decent service, but there weren't many like that.

So perhaps Den Hague is still a suggestion for OP? I suppose the other question is how it stacks up to punting elsewhere.


Personally, punting cheap young orientals somewhere like Thailand, Vietnam, or the Philippines would be a dream.

[adindas]

Examples of showpark girls. Thanks to "Essex3" who posted it here
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=281705.msg3132878#msg3132878

My personal preference is Antonia, Christina, Daria

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Show park was much better a decade ago. But nowadays with the rate of 2,000CZK for half hour, no DATY, 69 (or extra) is not good for me.

When in Prague I will prefer to do a desk and leg work and find a good privat. In privat 2,000CZK is the rate for one hour (not 20 min like in showpark) where DATY, 69 is almost guaranteed included.

[Taztaz]

Examples of showpark girls. Thanks to "Essex3" who posted it here
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=281705.msg3132878#msg3132878

My personal preference is Antonia, Christina, Daria

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Show park was much better a decade ago. But nowadays with the rate of 2,000CZK for half hour, no DATY, 69 (or extra) is not good for me.

When in Prague I will prefer to do a desk and leg work and find a good privat. In privat 2,000CZK is the rate for one hour (not 20 min like in showpark) where DATY, 69 is almost guaranteed included.

Very nice those mate, are the pics representative?

Edit: just checked the thread you linked, 

[nike]

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Something on par with that. Not necessarily that look, don't mind whether the girl is latina, European etc. Just that standard of attractiveness.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder," however , I would pick this one over ur choice.

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[petermisc]

Unfortunately the steady fall in the value of the pound means that European punting is no longer the bargain it once was.  Once you include the cost of your airfare and hotel, you would probably be cheaper punting in the uk.  So probably best choosing somewhere worth visiting for the place itself, as well as the punting.

Prague is certainly worth visiting.  Probably the most tourist friendly city I have ever visited. Not the punting mekka it once was, but still some good options.  Avoid the tourist rip offs, punting and otherwise.  You can get some good deals in the privates, although sometimes the service can be lacklustre (particularly in those with many girls) and beware the extras can easily double the cost.

The windows scenes in Dutch cities I found rip offs - way over-priced and mechanical service.  Better to look for the prive places.  Mind you, if you want to visit the Amsterdam windows, best do so soon, as there is talk of them being shut down.  The Dutch do seem to be cracking down. The boats in Zanpaad in Utrecht used to be an interesting take on the windows scene, until it was shut down.

[DaVINCI]

Very nice those mate, are the pics representative?

Edit: just checked the thread you linked, 

The pics are representative, I was with Antonia back in August and it was surprising the size of tits she had (enhanced but looked real) she was hot 

There is also a 20 min option at czk1500

[methodz00]

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Massage princess place in prague looks good

I tried to book here “on the day” but as it was a Saturday they had no availability that worked so I would suggest contacting in advance of your trip to ensure you can get in....the girls look amazing!

[jonny6612]

Mind you, if you want to visit the Amsterdam windows, best do so soon, as there is talk of them being shut down.  The Dutch do seem to be cracking down. .

There is talk of the windows closing, and there was a significant event a few weeks ago when the majority of their councillors agreed on relocating to a different location.  However,  I'd be amazed if the windows are shut down any time soon - it's a couple of years away at the absolute earliest.

[adindas]

There is talk of the windows closing, and there was a significant event a few weeks ago when the majority of their councillors agreed on relocating to a different location.  However,  I'd be amazed if the windows are shut down any time soon - it's a couple of years away at the absolute earliest.

Why would they want to shut it down or relocate it when it becomes a tourist attraction ??

[DaVINCI]

Why would they want to shut it down or relocate it when it becomes a tourist attraction ??

I was actually reading about this a couple of weeks ago, although never been to Amsterdam, Local Government don't see it as a Tourist Attraction, think it was mentioned they were wanting to "Clean" the area up.

[jonny6612]

Why would they want to shut it down or relocate it when it becomes a tourist attraction ??

I agree.  In my opinion, they will definitely suffer a more than small drop in tourists if they close the main red light district.  They are talking about opening up a single building far from the centre of town for the sex workers to work - it will be a completely different setting with the girls not visible at all from outside the building.

They have four reasons about wanting to shut the red light district:
1. They think that some of the foreign girls working there have a 'vulnerable status'.  The Mayor thinks some of them are forced to work there.

2. They do not like the idea of thousands of tourists looking at the girls through the windows - she thinks a lot of the tourist behaviour is not good and it has a negative effect on the girls working there

3. They think there is more criminal activity around the area and it is not good for the Dutch residents in the area.  Removing the windows will reduce criminal activity according to them

4. They think there is a lot more to amsterdam and they want to attract different types of tourists.  The Mayor says that the Dutch economy and population is booming long term (aside from Covid setback) and they are not worried about arguments of a loss in tourism.


As I say, I believe there will be a more than minor fall in tourism.  I can't believe that the money men in the Netherlands would be happy with that, even though they are suggesting they do not need the tourism that the Red Light brings.  It will be  a sad day when the windows close - I think the red light area with the windows have been there for almost 80 years.  The city won't be the same.

[Casey69]

The Amsterdam red light district is a good deal older than 80 years.
Try the 15th century.

She does seem determined to make this relocation happen.
It will take several years if it ever happens.

[petermisc]

The Amsterdam red light district is a good deal older than 80 years.
Try the 15th century.
She does seem determined to make this relocation happen.
It will take several years if it ever happens.

Utrecht closed down the Zanpaad quite quickly, was supposed to be relocated, but ......

I suppose it is a bit like Ibiza, where they have got fed up with the bad image.

[jonny6612]

The Amsterdam red light district is a good deal older than 80 years.
Try the 15th century.

She does seem determined to make this relocation happen.
It will take several years if it ever happens.

No - if you read my post I was accurately stating that the current window format has only been there for 80 years - I wasn't referring to the date that prostitution first became alive in the area.  Prior to the 20th century, there were brothels and the girls would also offer their services in the streets and in pubs/ bars. 

The relocation isn't obviously just about whether the Mayor wants it.  It obtained significant political support a few weeks ago (including Prime Minister's own party) and people are saying that is a key indictaor that it will happen.  Still a few hurdles to cross though, and yes it won't be happening imminently.

[adindas]

No - if you read my post I was accurately stating that the current window format has only been there for 80 years - I wasn't referring to the date that prostitution first became alive in the area.  Prior to the 20th century, there were brothels and the girls would also offer their services in the streets and in pubs/ bars. 

The relocation isn't obviously just about whether the Mayor wants it.  It obtained significant political support a few weeks ago (including Prime Minister's own party) and people are saying that is a key indictaor that it will happen.  Still a few hurdles to cross though, and yes it won't be happening imminently.

if they relocate it to suburban areas, it is probably better for us punters. it is will be difficult to reach by ordinary tourist.  They will not be spoiled by the tourists any longer. For us it will not be a problem as long as it is within the major transport lines.

[adindas]

No - if you read my post I was accurately stating that the current window format has only been there for 80 years - I wasn't referring to the date that prostitution first became alive in the area.  Prior to the 20th century, there were brothels and the girls would also offer their services in the streets and in pubs/ bars. 

The relocation isn't obviously just about whether the Mayor wants it.  It obtained significant political support a few weeks ago (including Prime Minister's own party) and people are saying that is a key indictaor that it will happen.  Still a few hurdles to cross though, and yes it won't be happening imminently.

if they relocate it to suburban areas, it is probably better for us punters. it is will be difficult to reach by ordinary tourist.  They will not be spoiled by the tourists any longer. For us it will not be a problem as long as it is within the major transport lines.

[jonny6612]

if they relocate it to suburban areas, it is probably better for us punters. it is will be difficult to reach by ordinary tourist.  They will not be spoiled by the tourists any longer. For us it will not be a problem as long as it is within the major transport lines.

They are talking about relocating to areas more than 30 minutes away from the centre of town.  I agree with your point that tourists won't be a problem for them in the new location and that is exactly what they want.  However, for me personally the effect of the relocation will be far worse, for many reasons:

1. The centre of Amsterdam is where I want to stay when i go there, because there are far more amenities in the centre.  It is great that the red light district is in the centre as you can have a punt and walk back to your hotel or wherever else you want to go.  I wouldn't want to be travelling more than 1 hour back and forth to get to the new setting. 

2. It is nice to walk around the RLD at the moment, and see if any lady takes your fancy.  If there is nobody, its no great loss  as everything else is in the centre as well.  I often walk around the RLD 4 or 5 times in a day to have a punt or see who is available - that will not be possible at the new setting as there is nothing else to do around there.

3. I like the atmosphere around the De Wallen red light area.  Once all of the girls have gone, it will be much quieter and far less atmospheric.  I also worry that some of the coffee shops and restaurants will go as well, both of which are an important part of my stay.   The new setting is more like a hotel with rooms behind closed doors.

4. If there are far less tourists, the new setting will have far less girls as there won't be enough demand for them all to work.  That means less choice for us punters.  The authorities have already hinted that the new setting will have less rooms than the current windows.

As i say, these are reasons personal to myself as I don't just go for the punting but for the coffee shops etc as well.  It is great having the hotel within walking distance of the RLD, and I love having the chance to visit the RLD a few times during the day for 2 or 3 punts at different times.  The new locations they are talking about are definitely not places you would want to stay.  Travelling more than 1 hour back and forth a few times a day would mean no time for anything else and would ruin the appeal of Amsterdam for me. 

Amsterdam is widely regarded as not being the greatest punting destination due to quality of service often not great etc, but I still like going for the reasons mentioned above.  If the close the current RLD, I'm not sure I will go anymore as other European cities would appeal far more.

[petermisc]

if they relocate it to suburban areas, it is probably better for us punters. it is will be difficult to reach by ordinary tourist.  They will not be spoiled by the tourists any longer. For us it will not be a problem as long as it is within the major transport lines.

Relocating was what they proposed for Utrecht's Zanpaad.  But surprise, surprise, no-one was keen for their neighbourhood to become the new red light area.  So while the arguments went on about where it was to go, the relocation became a "temporary" closure.  And once the girls had gone, there was no longer any imperative to do anything. 

Can Amsterdam get away with the same thing?  After all, which suburb isn't going to kick up a fuss about being turned into the new RLD?  Wouldn't surprise me if any relocation ended up in less residential areas, which might not be the kind of place you'd want to be walking around at night.