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Offline Johnny-reb

I thought I’d put this up as a simple guide from my own experience just starting out - for ‘veterans’ it won’t be much good but for long time lurkers (like me) it may save time and research - provide pointers.

I highly recommend this:
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Read it, as you may come a cropper if you don’t. It’s as close to a real guide as you’ll get.

Punting.
Treat it like a hobby, like gambling - set aside your budget and stick to it. Once you get started the temptation is there (if you’re inclined) to spend all your money at it when you find a winner. And to ‘chase losses’ if it goes wrong. Go steady. Take your time.

First ventures.
Get your ‘sea legs’. Find a venue that works with a few girls you can visit before jumping into the independent AW lists. All that glitters isn’t gold gentlemen. You may miss someone who’s on a blacklist for some reason (thief, trickster etc) or that takes risks beyond what you would like to accept. Read reviews. Ask advice on here and take heed when it’s offered. MKE and Annabella’s in the south east was a good start for me. Simple. Easy. Also - Probably a good idea to head out of town when starting out. For me finding a nice English bird first off in a ‘parlour’ really helped my first few times. Like most things this is a generalisation, serious rule of thumb, but you get what you pay for in terms of quality. Try not to scrimp if you can help it. If a service provider is well rated and at ‘the going rate’, then go with that. Not just the price tag alone - that doesn’t tell you anything.

Learn the code.
OWO, GFE, RO... all the abbreviations mean something. Learn them all and check before you go what’s on offer. It saves disappointment not getting something you wanted on the day. Don’t take it for granted girls all do the same kind of things and it’s all basically the same deal - it’s not. Reviews help with this.

Don’t make assumptions.
You’re paying for the time - but it’s not 100% yours. Remember you’re still a guest. Things like bringing your own drinks are not always cool. Recording yourself for the secret wank bank / scrap book may sound like a normal thing to expect at 100’s an hour but it’s NOT COOL unless discussed FIRST. Some more ‘exotic’ requests like that (and that is exotic) don’t just come with the package - may incur extra charges - or may not be on the table at all. It may be really awkward to start with - but you will have to ditch the bashful virgin act and ‘talk business’ if you want to indulge a kink / fantasy. This isn’t a real date. She doesn’t know you. Her identity is as sacrosanct as yours. Know what’s cool and what ain’t. Don’t assume, ask. And ask First - or it’s proper down hill for you boys. And if it was on the advert but ain’t on now... you’ve lost nothing by not assuming and asking.

We’re only human.
The better girls that work this industry respond really well to respect. If you’ve been working all day - clean up for a punt. Or use some time on your clock to do that. Talk and build some kind of rapport (if she speaks the lingo). Again, this helps any misunderstandings too and will make for a better punt (hopefully) in my fledgling experience. Wood - if you are having trouble fucking someone you’ve only known for 30 seconds it seems to be a thing for at least some of us punting blokes. There are threads on it here even. Don’t let that ruin your punting though. Stay off the porn and let your bollocks fill. Don’t rush like a cunt to an appointment. And talking with the girls works for me. Maybe find a ‘regular’ to start with. One that looks like Jenny from accounting perhaps??? What ever works. Relax.

Bareback / health risks.

This will be the thing that makes you most hesitant.

You may not want to hear it and there are a lot of ‘opinions’ out there but bareback with a sex worker is massively risky - bottom line, regardless of how much your paying. Oral With Out (OWO) is less risky in terms of the bad blood (HIV) but it still isn’t 100% ‘safe’. You can catch a dose from a gobble lads. You’ve got 4 options. 1) Go full covered and eat nothing. 2) Oral with out and covered penetration (generally ‘the norm’ as I found it). 3) Bareback all the way. 4) Stay at home and have another tug. No one is holding your hand on this one. You’re on your own and you know the facts... but do you really want to spend three months shitting yourself waiting for results from the clinic - or even worse, I’ve heard about trying to avoid a partner (if you’ve got one) and shitting yourself through that for months, before you get the all clear. And it’s three months before you’ll know. Testing the day after is pointless. Again - reviews help on this one. And you can’t drown crabs in the bath! A bareback punt down an alley for £20 with a junkie is about as dangerous a thing you can do. Refer to the street Walker section, yes, there is one! Believe it or not.

Fucked it up?
Don’t worry. Running late, missed an appointment, going in thinking all your kinky shit was ok - when it wasn’t, couldn’t get wood, couldn’t climax, shit service, shit venue... don’t worry. If she won’t see you again there’s plenty more that will. And if you didn’t rate the service - put it down to experience, learn, and move on. This is a really strange business and not at all what you may be expecting. But if it’s your thing and your getting something out of it, or getting more over time... then you’re like me. For me - if I personally wasn’t a bit of a fuck up... in all honesty I wouldn’t be here looking for answers and advice all the time. That’s just me though.

Finally...
You could take a 6 week night course in this shit. Dos and Donts. When to walk and when to stay. How to review and the importance of that on this forum. Where to go - and how it works in general. It’s a minefield and ain’t really as clear cut as you think - not every time. Keep reading. Keep punting. Enjoy and roll with it. Like any hobby - some are naturals. Some need practice. You’ve made it to this site... your on the right track. 

Criticism welcome. I’m far from perfect. And a big thank you to all the vets (and ladies) that steered me right so far.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2021, 02:52:05 am by Johnny-reb »

Offline chocolategiver

Excellent post and advice, i've been doing this hobby for many many years and it's good to be reminded of the basics.

I would add, "don't be afraid to walk" if the SP has misrepresented herself and basically lied in her advert, you sense a negative/bad attitude or you feel uncomfortable. I've probably walked away about dozen times over the years and never regretted once, however on more than one occasion i never walked and regretted wasting my money.


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I think that would probably be my top tip too.

Top tip too......... sorry, sounds so fuckin ridiculous but you know what I mean.
It’s your money so don’t feel obliged to just hand it over to someone who is not who you thought she would be.
As above. Been hoodwinked (it happens) and I’ve never had any problems with just just walking away.
Taking the abuse that comes with it on occasions.

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That's great advice thanks. I'm also new to this and appreciate being accepted onto the site. I've been reading reviews with interest and looking forward to 'dipping my toes' when we're Covid clear.

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May your next punt be your best punt.
Can I ask, following comments on another thread about how distracting, annoying and pointless this is, why do you feel the need to be the only one on the site to do it.   :unknown:


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I’ve seen this on another forum too.
Where a sentence of sorts is added to the end of a members post.
“May the force go with you” kind of thing.

I think on that particular forum you set something up in your profile.

Personally I can’t think of anything I would like to add on the end of any of my posts, apart from “Howay the Lads”

But then again, we need all the help we can bloody well get. So I just might.  :D
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It’s your money so don’t feel obliged to just hand it over to someone who is not who you thought she would be.
As above. Been hoodwinked (it happens) and I’ve never had any problems with just just walking away.
Taking the abuse that comes with it on occasions.

My first 3 punts weren’t punts at all. I didn’t know the ropes in the slightest and thought it was just trial and error looking for some action. I didn’t know about this forum at the time. Anyway - 2 were clearly NOT the women in the profile (this happens and I think they kinda count on you being a sheer desperado and just doing it anyway) so I made it clear ‘I’m out’ and the other was fucking about with the meet location and there was obviously a dude waiting same area as me. For what? Fuck knows. I just left. And yes - Stevelondon is right - both first times I got a load of shite for backing off.

If it ends up being like something from a spy film - cryptic comms and redirection / sketchy meet points... walk away.

When I started reading here I soon realised it’s not all as easy as online shopping at Tesco, and where I was going wrong. This led to some successful punts but still a complete disaster.

That’s why my point on making sure what you had in mind before you start is essential and cool with the girl. Particularly the recording thing - that can ruffle serious feathers. And... taking care of yourself. There’s a huge difference in escorts that have a steady setup and those that are on the seedier side of the game. I never knew these parlours were as good as they are - and different from the Soho ‘model’ doorways with the granite jawed pimp at the top of the stairs.

I would add that Adult Work and the established parlours are a better bet than them, vivastreet or similar free add type adverts - starting out anyway. And the system of checking the profile numbers from there in the search bar here is where you need to be starting.

Now that might seem glaringly obvious but - to the novice, this is all new. And what’s to say one ‘system’ is better than another without reading this lot for hours like a law student. I really wish I found this site earlier.

Offline Johnny-reb

Thanks

No worries man. And when you yoursel sorted - don’t forget to review.  :hi:

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I’ve seen this on another forum too.
Where a sentence of sorts is added to the end of a members post.
“May the force go with you” kind of thing.

I think on that particular forum you set something up in your profile.

Personally I can’t think of anything I would like to add on the end of any of my posts, apart from “Howay the Lads”

But then again, we need all the help we can bloody well get. So I just might.  :D
On some fora there is the facility to add a 'signature' automatically to a post, if there is that facility on here it is disabled and anything added has to be done manually each time.

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Can I ask, following comments on another thread about how distracting, annoying and pointless this is, why do you feel the need to be the only one on the site to do it.   :unknown:


You certainly may ask and i'm more than happy to answer, i put that line in as a way of wishing my fellow hobbyists good luck in their pursuit of sexual gratification and enjoyment. Is that a ruler breaker? If so i'm happy to cease-and-disist.
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You certainly may ask and i'm more than happy to answer, i put that line in as a way of wishing my fellow hobbyists good luck in their pursuit of sexual gratification and enjoyment. Is that a ruler breaker? If so i'm happy to cease-and-disist.
No it doesn't break any rules, but as has been said by others it is pointless, distracting and not a thing that has been the normal for this site as long as I've been a member.

One or two members feel the need to sign their posts with their name or initials but never in bold blue. If you wish to make yourself the exception to the standard for the forum and if it makes you feel better then carry on.

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No it doesn't break any rules, but as has been said by others it is pointless, distracting and not a thing that has been the normal for this site as long as I've been a member.

One or two members feel the need to sign their posts with their name or initials but never in bold blue. If you wish to make yourself the exception to the standard for the forum and if it makes you feel better then carry on.


Would it make you feel better just bold and black?
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Signatures aside...

What do you think of the original post?

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Would it make you feel better just bold and black?
I've made my feeling clear I think putting "May your next punt be your best punt." on every one of your posts is pointless, distracting, unnecessary and attention seeking.

This is an adult forum where we discuss adult issues to do with paid for sex not a 'Starwars' type of thing that has a special day every year.

Personally I don't want or need anyone to wish me luck, I do my own research and due diligence. Having said that as I said if that's what floats your boat you carry on.   

Offline contentguy

Signatures aside...

What do you think of the original post?

I thought it was narcissistic, TLDR and added little value.

There are guides on this site that are better written and more informative.
I thought, welcome noobie, but coming here telling us how to punt is patronising.

Then I realised you’ve been here for years, just not contributed much.
And you should have known that this thread isn’t really a South East thread but a general one.

But when it got little interest, you brought more TLDR content.

Well, that’s my view anyway.  Were you hoping for a different perspective?
Or were you asking daviemac to critique your posts?  Perhaps you’re asking him to be your editor?

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See 1st reply and it's still an excellent post.


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Or were you asking daviemac to critique your posts?  Perhaps you’re asking him to be your editor?
If he was asking my opinion on his post I think it should've looked like this. -
I thought I’d put this up as a simple guide I highly recommend this:
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Read it, as you may come a cropper if you don’t. It’s as close to a real guide as you’ll get.

That guide is more general and informative than one person's perspective of how they think we should all punt.

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If he was asking my opinion on his post I think it should've looked like this. -
That guide is more general and informative than one person's perspective of how they think we should all punt.

And his health risk stuff, I’d have suggested the NHS is a better resource.

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I did say it’s for new comers, not experienced veteran punters.

I did reference to area specific places and things so it’s not so ‘general’ - I thought the SE general board would be the place.

Thanks for the psychological analysis though. You’re right, I’ve no interest in helping new punters round here at all - I just need little posts on an obscure prostitution review site to boost my narcissism.

If any one new gets any help or a boost, then good. That’s the point - I ain’t telling anyone how to punt.  And as for being on here two years - I’m sorry that building a huge catalogue of reviews wasn’t my top priority.

And you wonder why people don’t post fuck all in two years?

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Thanks for the psychological analysis though. You’re right, I’ve no interest in helping new punters round here at all - I just need little posts on an obscure prostitution review site to boost my narcissism.

And as for being on here two years - I’m sorry that building a huge catalogue of reviews wasn’t my top priority.

And you wonder why people don’t post fuck all in two years?

No problem on psyc. stuff.

Nearly 3 years.  And no real contribution at all.

I don’t wonder about why you haven’t posted.  I’m commenting on the bollocks you are posting.

Welcome back.
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...Criticism welcome. I’m far from perfect....

That bit was insightful.  :hi:

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Johnny - 1) I liked the thread enough to add it to the Wiki. (External Link/Members Only)
2) To you and all: Please don't consider 1 or even 5 guys not loving your posts as a reason not to post. ('And you wonder why people don’t post fuck all in two years?') I think a bit of tough talk makes the place better. In moderation clearly.
3) It seems you have had good luck and recent experience with MK agency/brothels.  Have you read what it says on the Wiki and is this accurate and up to date? External Link/Members Only  Edits welcome.
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You certainly may ask and i'm more than happy to answer, i put that line in as a way of wishing my fellow hobbyists good luck in their pursuit of sexual gratification and enjoyment. Is that a ruler breaker? If so i'm happy to cease-and-disist.
I'll rephrase my question a bit, why do you feel the need to wish punters good luck every time you post.    :unknown:

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I'll rephrase my question a bit, why do you feel the need to wish punters good luck every time you post.    :unknown:



As we all know this lovely past time can be fraught with expensive disappointments and for some people it can also be emotionally disappointing. So why not wish people well and good luck. I like and prefer to be friendly towards other people unless they prove to be bullies.
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As we all know this lovely past time can be fraught with expensive disappointments and for some people it can also be emotionally disappointing. So why not wish people well and good luck. I like and prefer to be friendly towards other people unless they prove to be bullies.
The fact you are happy to continue to do it tells me all I need to know about you. You aren't interested in how the site works, what is normal or acceptable on here and most importantly you can't take advice, despite this post of your's.
Lol, your probably right but i've noticed this can be a very unforgiving forum so i want to understand how things work so i don't get a "Rub Down" (poker terminology) from some of you crusty old gits.
Rather than adding annoying, distracting and pointless signatures to posts, you would be better off asking how to quote correctly so things you do post make sense. If you recall your very first post was to ask about posting reviews and my reply was to link to the punting wiki main page, the guide to review writing and the rules. I am always happy to offer help, guidance and advice to those who need or want it, unfortunately quite often the advice given is totally ignored.

I have noticed that on one occasion you repeated one of your reviews on someone else's review, that is not how it works, if you must reference a review of an SP you have seen, post a link to it so you are not derailing the thread, do not repeat the whole thing.






Offline Surrey1974

Quality post & advice

I am not a seasoned punter like many of u on here but I make sure do plenty of research. Before I commit to a booking I ask the girls questions if not stated or not stated clearly on their profiles.

For example does your prices include OWO&CIM. Then some will say no darling that is extra. Another one is they state on their profile they have uniforms & when ask what they got u get a response to say haven't got any just lingerie. Also, I ask their dress & breast size if they stated on their profile.

So my advice would be just ask questions if not sure as in stated in the original post it is our money. If not 100% sure I don't commit. To many fakes out there that ruin it for the genuine ones.

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The fact you are happy to continue to do it tells me all I need to know about you. You aren't interested in how the site works, what is normal or acceptable on here and most importantly you can't take advice, despite this post of your's. Rather than adding annoying, distracting and pointless signatures to posts, you would be better off asking how to quote correctly so things you do post make sense. If you recall your very first post was to ask about posting reviews and my reply was to link to the punting wiki main page, the guide to review writing and the rules. I am always happy to offer help, guidance and advice to those who need or want it, unfortunately quite often the advice given is totally ignored.

I have noticed that on one occasion you repeated one of your reviews on someone else's review, that is not how it works, if you must reference a review of an SP you have seen, post a link to it so you are not derailing the thread, do not repeat the whole thing.



Yes thank you for the feedback in your last paragraph, once i'd posted i realised i'd probably messed up and it could have been done better. I.T. is like Black Magic and the Dark Arts to me.

Keep up the good work.
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Yes thank you for the feedback in your last paragraph, once i'd posted i realised i'd probably messed up and it could have been done better. I.T. is like Black Magic and the Dark Arts to me.

Keep up the good work.
As was the case with your first post and has also been the case with several other new members, if you aren't sure how to do something, ask and there's loads who will guide you through what to do and how to do it.

Offline KCowboy101

I thoroughly enjoyed reading this as if these were all exact lessons you had to learn by being a complete deviant along the way  :lol: :P

Good post. You do you btw

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What I find particularly unhelpful and (to me ) annoying is comments to a review that say "Sorry, you had a bad time" and don't add anything else useful, I've been guilty as the next man for occasional trivial posts though I try and contribute that which is useful.