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Offline smiths

In some circles they would consider a guy that pays for sex to not have any self respect, so probably just as well that all opinions here are from a small select portion of society

Or even enjoy ROWO.... And a survey, although only a few members participated, a large percentage said the would be happy to engage in ROWO with a girl that offered BB????

You are such a kinky lot you guys!

I couldnt care less what those circles think.

Offline SteveNova

The real issue seems to be: what is the likelihood of catching a nasty during OWO?   As most on this forum favour OWO and don't seem to have had cause to regret their punting preference, I suggest the likelihood of catching an STI is low.  Of course there will always be the unlucky punter but would OWO be so popular if it was such a risky pursuit.  I did read somewhere (I don't have the link now) of a study that showed, of those testing positive for STIs, none had any infection in the throat.  Of course NHS advice will always be use condoms, even for oral - but studies also show there have been no proven cases of solely orally transmitted HIV.  In terms of BB, even a small chance of HIV is one chance too many - why risk it.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 12:20:35 AM by SteveNova »

Offline smiths

The real issue seems to be: what is the likelihood of catching a nasty during OWO?  With respect to OWO, as most on this forum favour it and don't seem to have had cause to regret their punting preference, I suggest the likelihood of catching an STI is low.  Of course there will always be the unlucky punter but would OWO be so popular if it was such a risky pursuit.  I did read somewhere (I don't have the link now) of a study that showed, of those testing positive for STIs, none had any infection in the throat.  Of course NHS advice will always be use condoms, even for oral - but studies also show there have been no proven cases of solely orally transmitted HIV.  In terms of BB, even a small chance of HIV is one chance too many - why risk it.

OWO is low risk in my experience is what i posted earlier, The Donkey Work disagreed as his posts show. He even says the risks are the same between BB and OWOto all intent and purposes, the ramblings of someone who is clueless in my opinion, and who thinks i need educating about the risks, whereas its him who needs to given his posts and thinking.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 12:27:40 AM by smiths »

Offline TheDonkeyWork

OWO is low risk in my experience is what i posted earlier, The Donkey Work disagreed as his posts show. He even says the risks are the same between BB and OWOto all intent and purposes, the ramblings of someone who is clueless in my opinion, and who thinks i need educating about the risks, whereas its him who needs to given his posts and thinking.

Now who is getting personal?

You're a fragile personality... I can see that, so I'll not escalate matters - wouldn't want you crying on your farley's rusk.

To properly address the risk you need to accurately assess what the risk is between the two competing activities: bareback full sex and bareback oral. There are plenty of folk (Wife4Rent for one) saying that they have regularly and consistently engaged in bareback sex and not caught any nasties.

I have had plenty of casual bareback sex in the past (admittedly not with working girls but in my youth with many nightclub randoms) and I never fell victim to anything.

I have, however (and I recognise that you are having to take my word for this) been in a situation where I know categorically and beyond all reasonable doubt that I have contracted Chlamydia through receiving oral sex.

Many of you believe that because you have engaged in OWO and not caught anything it is safe and low risk.... but who is to say that, going by that yard-stick, you wouldn't think the same is you were partaking in frequent bareback full sex?

You're not comparing like with like - you're using personal experience as one measure and then anecdotal evidence as another.

Get real: wake up and smell the coffee boys... it's a risky activity and if you're doing one, you may as well be doing t'other.

Offline James999

If A Girl offers bareback I tend to think she's either

A. Already infected and as such does not care as she has nothing to lose
B. Mentally unstable and not aware of the risks she is taking
C. Being cforced to  offer the service
D. Desperate due to addiction.
E  Combination of the above.

Whatever it is they are to be avoided at all costs,punting is about fun not russian roullette with five bullets in the gun.

Offline ladyofthemansion

There is also a possibility that a non bareback lady has HIV so will use a condom. Condoms can burst! In my opinion that is far more selfish and sneaky than a BB girl.

Offline Lurtz

If A Girl offers bareback I tend to think she's either

A. Already infected and as such does not care as she has nothing to lose
B. Mentally unstable and not aware of the risks she is taking
C. Being cforced to  offer the service
D. Desperate due to addiction.
E  Combination of the above.

Whatever it is they are to be avoided at all costs,punting is about fun not russian roullette with five bullets in the gun.

Do you do OWO and RO?

Offline Keen Punter

I caught the clap from a blowjob at a party at The Private Club once.

It's a risky business this punting lark, it is simply a matter of degrees of risk.

Offline TheDonkeyWork

I caught the clap from a blowjob at a party at The Private Club once.

It's a risky business this punting lark, it is simply a matter of degrees of risk.

I agree - but can you say, with any certainty, that the degree of risk with bareback full sex is genuinely far higher than it is with OWO?

Yes, the transmission of HIV is far easier with full sex - but on a probability level - is it really "high risk" compared to the risk that you're taking having OWO and the risk of lesser but nonetheless permanent nasties like Herpes? (and despite quoting you KP - I don't aim this at you specifically - more at the OWO'ers who shun the BB'ers in general)

Is it not more likely that the OWO'ers are spreading disease far wider than they have hitherto been prepared to admit - thus demonstrating their irresponsibility?

It is a matter of degrees but I'm not convinced there is much of a degree between the two and I think whether you have OWO or full bareback sex - you are being equally irresponsible if you believe in the ALARP risk principle (as low as reasonably possible). You're taking a BIG risk and you're probably going to be swilling that disease around willy nilly whilst proclaiming that barebackers are the devils spawn and you;re just in it for safe-thrills...

Yeah right...


I dont care what you do - so long as you acknowledge the high risk game you're playing and you all refrain from telling the barebackers that they're the irresponsible ones - they're no more irresponsible than the OWO'ers.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 10:37:59 PM by TheDonkeyWork »

Offline SteveNova

What is your accepted level of risk DonkeyWork - do you do OWO, BB or cover up at all times?

Offline Lurtz


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I dont care what you do - so long as you acknowledge the high risk game you're playing and you all refrain from telling the barebackers that they're the irresponsible ones - they're no more irresponsible than the OWO'ers.

I think you’ve raised an interesting point here, DonkeyWork. It is very easy for people like James999 to vilify barebackers (female ones, of course  :rolleyes:), but he’s too afraid to even tell us if he does RO or OWO. I noticed he's been away for a few days; I thought he may have been getting some stem cells injected into his back so he could grow a spine. Alas, not! He’s so yellow he could get a guest spot on The Simpsons.  :D

Anyhow, you have inspired me to do some research … which is a good thing.  ;)
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 11:04:50 PM by Lurtz »

Offline SteveNova

I caught the clap from a blowjob at a party at The Private Club once.

It's a risky business this punting lark, it is simply a matter of degrees of risk.
Ouch! That was unlucky - but that one incident in comparison with all the OWO you've had, whether at parties or one -to-one sessions: is it such a high risk in terms of likelihood?  I guess mostly most people will be fine, as I said before - as most here do OWO without problems.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 11:40:07 PM by SteveNova »

Offline sheffsteve

I too have never caught an STI through many years of OWO, but this is anecdotal and of not much value.
The obvious point, already well made, is that the untreatables -- Heps and HIV -- are thought to be low risk in OWO.
The infection rates of chlamydia are so high that it is quite likely you'll contract it at least once in a while, but regular GUI clinic checks take care of that.
Given that punting would be largely a waste of time without OWO and RO, then any other discussion is academic.


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