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Offline smiths

Your absolutely right...

I have no concern at all, never pretended I have, never will. I do not pretend that I only see 1-2 clients a day and can't believe that any girl in her right mind would do that, but as always there may be those that actually do do that. It is not for me to say.

There are many posts on here re punters happy not to turn up for a punt and even changing sim cards to get round it. No need I will always take bookings as many as you want, but it is a joke to be preaching about double bookings yet openly suggest that it is ok for girls to be messed around to suit yourselves.

It was also suggested that should you turn up late for a booking you would still want your full time, yet that shows little regard for the next punter, who would have to wait whilst you enjoyed yourself. Now does that not sound a little selfish?

Money, money, money.... Yes, it is all about the money, as you all work for money to afford to go punting, as well as live, provide for your families etc.... WG's are no different, yet many seem to resent them for it. That does not mean that you get bad service from them just because of the money, if you do, then as per any business, do not go back. There are many other comparisons that you pay for a service that you are not happy with and yet do not get a refund, including going to see a West End show and seeing half the audience leave in the interval. You do not get your money back or get the chance top pay at the end and at £50+ a ticket per [person it is not cheap.

Once you turn up to a booking I give the client the time he has paid for, I do not answer the phone to other punters or be distracted by the TV etc... The punter gets what he wants and pays for, I am sure many WG's also work that way.

I have said I have always double booked and have never had a problem with it. If I have had a complaint, who do I blame? The previous punter of course....

Win win !

I never said it was ok to mess WGs about. You use the words yourselves and you, thats not me, get it right, i dont view things like that. Its clear it makes no odds to you, but punters like WGs are individuals, i treat every WG as a separate individual not like you with obvious contempt for all whether they are genuine or not.

Its perfectly straight forward, if the punter is running late he contacts the WG to tell her and see if she can still fit him in as soon as he arrives, later or not. If not its his bad luck and he has paid the price for being late. Be on time and this scenario wont happen, works for me.

I have experience of punters turning up late at parties, usually this makes no odds to me as they just join in when they arrive but one provider started to wait for all these guys to turn up before starting the party leaving me hanging around for some arsehole who couldnt make it on time, i couldnt give a toss what there excuse/reason for being late was, they were fucking idiots of the highest order and it was costing me punting time which was not added on at the end resulting in me having words with the host and then among other reasons stopping going to them. So late punters can be a complete pain in the arse and should do what i do IMO, make sure they are early and allow for traffic. Yes the odd time you might get delayed but its a very rare occurence in my experience.

Offline smiths

I keep reading on here punters moaning its all about the money. If it was not about the money then we would not be charging for it. It is a job like any other. We go to work to earn money. End of. That does in no way mean we do not give the best we can during the time just that at the end of the day we are there to earn. If it was solely about our enjoyment of sex then we would pick and choose who we see and this would mean that anyone who was not our idea of sexy and good in bed would not be seen. We would then be as picky as you guys are in choosing a girl to see.

Thats some punters on here. I pay what i am prepared to and thats it the WG has got it in exchange for what i require. As long as i get as agreed its money well spent in my eyes.

Offline smiths

Seconded.

As punters I guess we do have to take a degree of responsbility. If we all stuck to our agreed dates/times the pro$$ie would have no need to double-book. I'm sure there are a lot of timewasters out there.

Still, that is the situation we find ourselves in. There will always be timewasters and I don't feel that genuine punters should suffer for their actions.

I like w4r's posts here as i) they justify any underhand strategies I might employ and ii) they will cost her some business. I for one would not book a pro$$ie who openly admits to double-booking. w4r can say goodbye to my business for a start (not that she would ever have been so lucky  :cool: ). I applaud your brazen posting!  :drinks:

Cost her some business, i doubt her appalling attitude and posts on here will. If she even had an inkling that is a likely scenario she wouldnt post, she clearly is a very devious and underhand person, but smart enough to know what she posts on here wont harm her business.

Offline GlasgowGirl

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Hahaha! It's amazing how cynical, hard and seemingly hostile some people on here are towards prostitutes, calling us all names under the sun, yet when it is suggested that we actually do a job for the money you seem to not be able to understand the concept!

All I was suggesting is that fair is fair. Time is money. For punters as well as WGs. In fact for everyone.

I actually mostly like my job. But it is that - a job ie - I'm not working for free (well 15 mins late or over time here and there I don't mind at all)! That does not mean I don't take pride in it and strive to get a good reputation - of course I do, as do other small-business owners. But time is money - no one ever got rich by thinking otherwise. I spend hours upon hours a week corresponding via email and phone, advertising, sending email updates to regulars, and updating stuff. I usually answer all enquiries promptly except on my days off. I offer each client refreshments and showers (not included in their booking time). I think that is enough. Given the VAST amount of guys who turn up late to me (about 50% are 10-30 mins late, a few will be 40 mins late! and very few bother to keep me inormed or apologise) and as reported by my friends, I would be giving a lot of time away effectively for free if I overlooked incidences of lateness.   

I was running a bit late for my client today due to the lights blowing in my bathroom so I had to replace bulbs from shop before my shower (no window in bathroom) - I kept him informed and he was OK with waiting 15 extra minutes outside. Did I short his time? No of course I didn't! He got the full hour plus an extra 5 minutes at the end and offered a shower after that. Although it would have been more convenient for me to leave at the original time as I had some errands to run and get out of the way before the rush time in the area where I work. I didn't short him though as I like to work professionally.

Taxi Drivers charge waiting time on the meter for waiting outside for hires, don't they Jimmy?  :D Perhaps WGs should do the same? ie - you can stil have your full hour but add £5 for every 10 mins late!

Offline GlasgowGirl

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By the way, my formula for lateness is

I allow 10 mins lateness for hour bookings, BEFORE I start docking time.

Some people royally take the p*** though. Once when I was very new and green I had someone book and pay for for 30 mins at 7pm and not leave until 1am!!!!!!! I did not encourage this at all. They spent 45 mins in the shower beforehand, then asked for a coffee O-: then had around 45 mins service. They then asked for another (40 min) shower, ANOTHER coffee and would not shut up long enough to allow me to suggest they leave. Seriously, he hardly took a breath between talking about himself only. By the end of it I was absolutely FUMING to say the least.  :scare: I had missed a whole family party. At the time I thought he was perhaps just very lonely but could only afford 30 mins. But now looking back, the not stopping talking long enough to allow me to ask him to leave was clearly manipulative. I never took a booking from this guy again. He turned up at my incall place twice late at night and buzzed (could see him out the window)  :scare:

Not saying any of you would do this on purpose of course  :P  :lol:

Offline Wife4rent

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I never said it was ok to mess WGs about.

And I never said you did...

Keep up !

So late punters can be a complete pain in the arse and should do what i do IMO, make sure they are early and allow for traffic. Yes the odd time you might get delayed but its a very rare occurence in my experience.

Of course they should do what you do, somebody has to make the rules....

Cost her some business, i doubt her appalling attitude and posts on here will. If she even had an inkling that is a likely scenario she wouldnt post, she clearly is a very devious and underhand person, but smart enough to know what she posts on here wont harm her business.

So now being truthful is being devious?

And yes you are right, I do not consider what I say on here will harm my business, people either turn up or they do not, it is that type of business, the need of a guy with a hard on is what makes this business what it is today
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 04:24:19 PM by Wife4rent »

Offline smiths

And I never said you did...

Keep up !

Of course they should do what you do, somebody has to make the rules....

So now being truthful is being devious?

And yes you are right, I do not consider what I say on here will harm my business, people either turn up or they do not, it is that type of business, the need of a guy with a hard on is what makes this business what it is today

Being devious is your modus there is nothing truthful about it, double booking punters is not truthful to the guys who dont get to punt with you yet think they will be.

Offline AnthG

So now being truthful is being devious?
You are being truthful to us but we are not your clients.

What you are doing is one of the worst things and Escort can do. You cannot expect anyone here to side with you as what you are doing is really bad.

I am sorry you do not see it as bad, but believe me double booking destroys new guys confidences.

How would you like it if someone double booked you for an outcall and you went to an appointment and he just said, nope don't want you go away and you are not getting paid.

You can says "its happened to me before" as if it were making it ok, but just because its happened to you before does not make it ok.

Offline Simple

W4R has made it abundantly clear she doesn't give two squirts of piss about punters and uses the poor excuse that some punters double book to rationalize doing the exact same thing as well generalize all punters as time wasters or the like to justify messing about guys. IMO it is quite underhanded and inexcusable to double book whether punter or prossie..
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 09:28:52 PM by Simple »

Offline Wife4rent

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And it has been made abundantly clear on here, by punters, that it is quite ok to mess WG's about and should you do so, simply change your sim card , sorry guys, you can not have it both ways!!!!

W4R has made it abundantly clear she doesn't give two squirts of piss about punters and uses the poor excuse that some punters double book to rationalize doing the exact same thing as well generalize all punters as time wasters or the like to justify messing about guys. IMO it is quite underhanded and inexcusable to double book whether punter or prossie..

I do not use the poor excuse that some punters double book and have never said that, again, taking somebody else's words and using them to your own aim. How would I know if punters double book, I work on my own?

Once again, I have yet to have a complaint on the way I operate from the genuine punters who turn up and should I have done or it affected my business, I am sure I would have changed my ways, after all, it is all about the money !!!!

And if you wish to quote what I have said before, how I get round the problem, should I have a complaint I said before, I simply blame it on the last punter, easy as that...

The posts above have also shown that as long as the punter gets what he wants when he turns up, late or otherwise, nothing else matters, punters are very selfish people with only one aim, to get their rocks off. They really do not care other than that and I for one do not blame them, just don't be so surprised that WG's can also be selfish and do what suits them.

That is the way it is.. Life is easy like that.

Offline AnthG

And it has been made abundantly clear on here, by punters, that it is quite ok to mess WG's about and should you do so, simply change your sim card , sorry guys, you can not have it both ways!!!!
Can you please quote some examples of when its been advised to mess Escorts around and then just change your sim.

From what I have saw only one member has suggested to change sim and it was never said in the context of 'I am going to mess around this Escort then change my sim'.

And if this was said, which I don't think it was, it would have been as a joke.

Offline Wayang

The posts above have also shown that as long as the punter gets what he wants when he turns up, late or otherwise, nothing else matters, punters are very selfish people with only one aim, to get their rocks off.

Quite right too - WGs forget that the punter is the client and it is the WGs job to pander to every whim.  FFS - mwhen you are getting £50K a year (tax free) for an unskilled job (the only training is OTJ) you ought to be bl**d* grateful you are not shelf stacking on minimum wage.
WGs have long lost sight of the fact that prostitution is a service industry and their job is to serve and get good money for ceiling inspecting.

Offline Lurtz

snip...

Once again, I have yet to have a complaint on the way I operate from the genuine punters who turn up and should I have done or it affected my business, I am sure I would have changed my ways, after all, it is all about the money !!!!
 them.


Hi W4R,

just out of interest, do you double-book very often? And how often would you say both punters turn up at the same time?

Offline Wife4rent

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And if this was said, which I don't think it was, it would have been as a joke.

Of course it was and I expect you were joking when you said that a Wg should accept punters messing her about as an occupational hazard, I feel the same way as that about punters

You have your point and I have mine, mine works for me, I expect yours works for you. I personally have no objections to what punters do, they can mess around as much as they like, it really does not bother me, so I am surprised why what I do should bother you so much. What day / time was your appointment?

Maybe it is time to take this back to the original subject

Offline AnthG

Quite right too - WGs forget that the punter is the client and it is the WGs job to pander to every whim.  FFS - mwhen you are getting £50K a year (tax free) for an unskilled job (the only training is OTJ) you ought to be bl**d* grateful you are not shelf stacking on minimum wage.
WGs have long lost sight of the fact that prostitution is a service industry and their job is to serve and get good money for ceiling inspecting.
Totally agree with everything Wayang just said, was actually coming back to say something similar.

To also add at the I double book and mess clients around reply above (I am paraphrasing) and never had any complaints. You would not get any complaints as you either get two types of clients.

1. The Battle weary that if you mess them around you never hear from them again.
2. The guys really low on confidence that would never even dream of complaining no matter what you did. And you doing this to them knocks their confidence further.

I do not think there is a third category of clients who would actually complain to an Escort if you messed them about. Hence your not getting any complaints means nothing.

Offline foresight

Quite right too - WGs forget that the punter is the client and it is the WGs job to pander to every whim.  FFS - mwhen you are getting £50K a year (tax free) for an unskilled job (the only training is OTJ) you ought to be bl**d* grateful you are not shelf stacking on minimum wage.
WGs have long lost sight of the fact that prostitution is a service industry and their job is to serve and get good money for ceiling inspecting.

You and your ilk seem to miss the point. You just will not accept that the WG is the one in control. The ones that use that power wisely are successful and ,as punters, they are the ones we have to seek out. However, at the end of the day, they call the shots. Who they see, when they see them, how they book their clients, what they do when we get there, how they treat us is up to them and if you don't like it, then tough.
In fact if a wg is not in that position, then there is something wrong.
All we have on our side is choice.

I hold no brief for most WGs - scammers, timewasters, saddos that so many are. I don't like the sound of W4R at all but she is free to do as she wishes and whatever works for her.

Offline Simple

And it has been made abundantly clear on here, by punters, that it is quite ok to mess WG's about and should you do so, simply change your sim card , sorry guys, you can not have it both ways!!!!
It hasn't been made abundantly clear on here that punters support messing about prossies as only a very few have seemingly advocated such schemes and don't speak for other punters that wouldn't mess around a prossie. Anyhow is it obvious you see nothing wrong with what you are doing and won't change your ways so it is a waste even continuing...

Offline Lurtz

You just will not accept that the WG is the one in control. The ones that use that power wisely are successful and ,as punters, they are the ones we have to seek out. However, at the end of the day, they call the shots. Who they see, when they see them, how they book their clients, what they do when we get there, how they treat us is up to them and if you don't like it, then tough.


A WG once said this to me (with a smug grin). My reply was, 'You have the power once. After that, the punter can remove all of your power by choosing never to book you again. Ever.'

She's now retired BTW.  ;)

Offline foresight

A WG once said this to me (with a smug grin). My reply was, 'You have the power once. After that, the punter can remove all of your power by choosing never to book you again. Ever.'

She's now retired BTW.  ;)

I think that was the point of my post. WGs who use their power wisely succeed. The punters only power is choice. It's the market.
At the end of the day, they don't have to be there but we still need (want) them.

Offline Lurtz

I think that was the point of my post. WGs who use their power wisely succeed. The punters only power is choice. It's the market.
At the end of the day, they don't have to be there but we still need (want) them.

Yes, they have choice of whom to see, and we have choice of whom to book. They need us for their livelihood; we need them for our hobby.

The wisest thing a punter can do is not rebook anyone who messes them about.

Offline smiths

It hasn't been made abundantly clear on here that punters support messing about prossies as only a very few have seemingly advocated such schemes and don't speak for other punters that wouldn't mess around a prossie. Anyhow is it obvious you see nothing wrong with what you are doing and won't change your ways so it is a waste even continuing...

W4R is trying to move the spotlight onto blaming the punter, some do mess WGs about but that doesnt mean its ok for her to mess all punters about which double booking them is doing.

I know such a WG as she clearly is, one who doesnt give a toss about fucking punters over wont change but why is such a WG on a forum where the ethos is where the punter comes first, she does the opposite AND happily posts about fucking them over showing what a diabolical attitude to punters she has. :)

Offline smiths

And it has been made abundantly clear on here, by punters, that it is quite ok to mess WG's about and should you do so, simply change your sim card , sorry guys, you can not have it both ways!!!!

I do not use the poor excuse that some punters double book and have never said that, again, taking somebody else's words and using them to your own aim. How would I know if punters double book, I work on my own?

Once again, I have yet to have a complaint on the way I operate from the genuine punters who turn up and should I have done or it affected my business, I am sure I would have changed my ways, after all, it is all about the money !!!!

And if you wish to quote what I have said before, how I get round the problem, should I have a complaint I said before, I simply blame it on the last punter, easy as that...

The posts above have also shown that as long as the punter gets what he wants when he turns up, late or otherwise, nothing else matters, punters are very selfish people with only one aim, to get their rocks off. They really do not care other than that and I for one do not blame them, just don't be so surprised that WG's can also be selfish and do what suits them.

That is the way it is.. Life is easy like that.

Some punters not all and why say your sorry, your not sorry you couldnt give a shit about fucking punters over by double booking them as your posts show.

Your attempt to move the spotlight onto the punter being to blame is a feeble move, most WGs who also get messed about by some punters dont descend to fucking punters over by double booking them, its a pain in the arse but they dont feel the need to operate like you do.

You really are beneath contempt and an example of a WG who gives not a stuff about those that book you in good faith only to be fucked over by you.

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Anyhow is it obvious you see nothing wrong with what you are doing and won't change your ways so it is a waste even continuing...

That was my thought.........

Maybe it is time to take this back to the original subject

Offline Cactus

By the way, my formula for lateness is

I allow 10 mins lateness for hour bookings, BEFORE I start docking time.

Some people royally take the p*** though. Once when I was very new and green I had someone book and pay for for 30 mins at 7pm and not leave until 1am!!!!!!! I did not encourage this at all. They spent 45 mins in the shower beforehand, then asked for a coffee O-: then had around 45 mins service. They then asked for another (40 min) shower, ANOTHER coffee and would not shut up long enough to allow me to suggest they leave. Seriously, he hardly took a breath between talking about himself only. By the end of it I was absolutely FUMING to say the least.  :scare: I had missed a whole family party. At the time I thought he was perhaps just very lonely but could only afford 30 mins. But now looking back, the not stopping talking long enough to allow me to ask him to leave was clearly manipulative. I never took a booking from this guy again. He turned up at my incall place twice late at night and buzzed (could see him out the window)  :scare:

Not saying any of you would do this on purpose of course  :P  :lol:

To be fair to you GG if the lateness is not explained as soon as it becomes apparent that they will be late (which I would always do) then docking time after 10mins is reasonable if they just turn up late with no phone call/text or whatever.  Do you have guys turn up half an hour late and you say that you only have time for a half hour now and then they try to pay you for the half hour rather than the hour?
That chap sounds like a nightmare to be honest!

Offline Cactus

Quite right too - WGs forget that the punter is the client and it is the WGs job to pander to every whim.  FFS - mwhen you are getting £50K a year (tax free) for an unskilled job (the only training is OTJ) you ought to be bl**d* grateful you are not shelf stacking on minimum wage.
WGs have long lost sight of the fact that prostitution is a service industry and their job is to serve and get good money for ceiling inspecting.

My sentiments exactly


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