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Simple

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What brand do you use?  I have thought about using this before but never tried it.  Shavings good for a couple of a days till the stubble gets a bit itchy.
Veets hair removal cream even though it isn't technically meant for that area. It takes about 10 mins tops and lasts a fair while, however, the area can be a tadbit sensitive/stingy afterwards so I'd recommend using it at least a day before the event...

Lurtz

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Veets hair removal cream even though it isn't technically meant for that area. It takes about 10 mins tops and lasts a fair while, however, the area can be a tadbit sensitive/stingy afterwards so I'd recommend using it at least a day before the event...

I use Veet cream and it is 6 minutes maximum.

nuendast

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I'm fed up with shaven havens.
Who wants a vulva un-framed by pubic hair, other than a paedophile?
Any real sign of this ridiculous fashion on the slide?
How did it start: practice in prostituton spreading to the wider community similar to how gangster baloney went mainstream?

Anyone know of young, slim wgs in Sheffield or nearby (Manchester, Leeds, etc) who are unshaven?

You are not a pedo just because you want a vulva to be shaved. Talk about stupid thought. I do not turn on, at kids, am no pedo, do not like childsex or anything close. I love real grown up woman but I prefer shaved vulva. Nothing pedo about that. get real please. It is ok the you dont want shaved, but people who want are no pedo for that. grow up.

Lurtz

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You are not a pedo just because you want a vulva to be shaved. Talk about stupid thought. I do not turn on, at kids, am no pedo, do not like childsex or anything close. I love real grown up woman but I prefer shaved vulva. Nothing pedo about that. get real please. It is ok that you dont want shaved, but people who want it are not pedo for that. Grow up.

Agreed. Since I began taking an interest in personal grooming and male beauty products, I haven't noticed any paedo's following me. A couple of homo's maybe - but no child molesters.

Simple

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I use Veet cream and it is 6 minutes maximum.
The directions for the veet cream I use has a suggestion/warning of 10 mins maximum though I suppose that it is being appled to a rather sensitive area so 5 - 6 minutes might be best...

On the topic of pussies I much prefer a shaven and neatly presented one as opposed to a hairy one which I'd find pretty off putting...

sheffsteve

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Pubic hair evolved for a good reason, otherwise we wouldn't have it. Most likely for females it it frame the genitalia and/or to hold pheromones; either way to be attractive to men.
Therefore it takes some explaining why any man would find shaven female pubes attraactive compared to unshaven ones.

It seems that men have just got used to a recent fashion, and that the fashion originated as female-female competition re beauty, but regarding what women thought men find beautiful -- IWO what they themselves think is beautiful rather than what men actually find so.

TeenKylie

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Pubic hair evolved for a good reason, otherwise we wouldn't have it. Most likely for females it it frame the genitalia and/or to hold pheromones; either way to be attractive to men.
Therefore it takes some explaining why any man would find shaven female pubes attraactive compared to unshaven ones.

It seems that men have just got used to a recent fashion, and that the fashion originated as female-female competition re beauty, but regarding what women thought men find beautiful -- IWO what they themselves think is beautiful rather than what men actually find so.

No i just really think men love shaven pussy :P

sheffsteve

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That's not an explanation: it's merely the statement of what is in need of an explaining.

There has to be a reason.
The simplest one would be just that younger men don't know any different: they've only seen women with shaven pubes, in the wake of a practice women have spread amongst themselves as what they imagine men might prefer, but which is merely a female conception of beauty tied up with ease of cleanliness -- likely having originated in sex workers and/or movie stars and stage dancers who started making sure no hair could possibly showing at the edge or through bikini bottoms..
Men who have grown up with hairy havens I would think would prefer them because they know what they're missing.

As I say, there must be a reason women acquired pubic hair, and given that it hasn't been lost through evolution then it can't have been sexually selected against through male mate choice.
It would be a real mystery why all of a sudden men found hairless pubes attractive when hitherto they haven't through all of our evolution.
The mystery is solved if simply women with public hair aren't around owing to a sudden new form of women competing with each other.

TheDonkeyWork

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It would be a real mystery why all of a sudden men found hairless pubes attractive when hitherto they haven't through all of our evolution.
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I don't find anything pleasant or attractive about an untidy, unkempt, sweaty and manky hairy minge.... give me nice, tightly trimmed or clean shave every time.

Your argument is UTTERLY FLAWED, as usual... for example - if your reasoning were to be followed we'd all be walking around with full hairy-faced beards.

Why don't we? I mean - if your reasoning is to be followed - it is as nature intended so we should maintain that: there must be a reason nature made us that way!

The reason pubes are trimmed or shaved is simply becuase it is now considered more attractive, more hygenic - and much more "today" rather than 1970's....

TheDonkeyWork

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No i just really think men love shaven pussy :P

+1

This man certainly does and it's a perfectly acceptable explanation.

Would I "go down" on a full, unkempt minge - HELL NO!

Offline AnthG

No i just really think men love shaven pussy :P
I can remember a few years back the Graham Norton show when it was on Channel 4 one ep had a survey of what type of style men liked and the biggest amount by some margin said they liked the Brazilian most of all.

Take from that what you want.

*Edit* Sorry on reflection I don't think it was called a Brazilian, was it the hollywood or Jamacan? Its basically an I shape whatever that is called. I just remember it but not its name.

So all bald bar an I of hair.
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sheffsteve

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I see Five-Star Steve, The Donkeywork owner, hasn't got any more logical than a while back when I last had the unpleasant experience of meeting his astonishing inability to argue his way out of anywhere, and his streadfastness in never seeing his own failings but to project them on to others.

A statement of something is not its explanation: it's what begs an explanation.
He actually starts and ends with this same elementary daft mistake.

Does the star shine because it shines?
Er, no, it because it's burning huge amounts of hydrogen.
The shining is the phenomenon at issue; the hydrogen burning is the explanation of it.

And then Mr Donkey elides pubic hair in general with pubic hair that is sweaty and unkempt
The latter is a subset of the former, not the whole set.

Jesus, did Mr Donkey ever get an education?

Though I've rarely come across a girl, wg or otherwise, who didn't keep her pubic hair neat and clean, doubtless there are some, even many; but that has nothing to do with pubic hair per se. I've come across girls with smelly shaven pubes. Does that mean all shaven pubes are smelly and disease-ridden? Absolutely not.

As for beards: Our Ee Aw doesn't spot interesting research when it hits the media.
Women, it has been found in survey, prefer men not to be clean-shaven but with at least stubble. And plenty of men have beards and nice partners.

The "UTTERLY FLAWED" arguments "as always" are from Eeaw, our own slightly depressed Donkey.
On here he can't delete and misrepresent all our posts and heap abuse unchecked.

foresight

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Many cultures have shaved their pubes including the Greeks and Romans. Some muslim women do it for religious reasons.

I am all for it - one of the best changes during my punting career.

Mind you there is nothing worse than pubic stubble :(

TheDonkeyWork

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I see Five-Star Steve, The Donkeywork owner, hasn't got any more logical than a while back when I last had the unpleasant experience of meeting his astonishing inability to argue his way out of anywhere, and his streadfastness in never seeing his own failings but to project them on to others.

A statement of something is not its explanation: it's what begs an explanation.
He actually starts and ends with this same elementary daft mistake.

Does the star shine because it shines?
Er, no, it because it's burning huge amounts of hydrogen.
The shining is the phenomenon at issue; the hydrogen burning is the explanation of it.

And then Mr Donkey elides pubic hair in general with pubic hair that is sweaty and unkempt
The latter is a subset of the former, not the whole set.

Jesus, did Mr Donkey ever get an education?

Though I've rarely come across a girl, wg or otherwise, who didn't keep her pubic hair neat and clean, doubtless there are some, even many; but that has nothing to do with pubic hair per se. I've come across girls with smelly shaven pubes. Does that mean all shaven pubes are smelly and disease-ridden? Absolutely not.

As for beards: Our Ee Aw doesn't spot interesting research when it hits the media.
Women, it has been found in survey, prefer men not to be clean-shaven but with at least stubble. And plenty of men have beards and nice partners.

The "UTTERLY FLAWED" arguments "as always" are from Eeaw, our own slightly depressed Donkey.
On here he can't delete and misrepresent all our posts and heap abuse unchecked.

You mean... wait a minute - not a full beard but closely cropped - wouldn't that equate to a Brazillian in the female pubic region?!

One thing that it isn't is something akin to a "full bush", that's for sure!

SteveNova

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I have tried both and I really do prefer shaven.  I'm not interested in unshaven at all now.

sheffsteve

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So completely thick is Donkey that he can't see something even when its starkly put in front of him.
What was I saying about stupidly trying to pass off a subset as the whole shebang?
Now he tries to pretend that a Brazilian isn't pubic hair and that stubble isn't facial hair!

Hee! Hee!
It's not what lengths some clutzes go just to try to save face re losing arguments: they can't even see that their lengths are proverbial gnat's dicks that just compound the egg on their dumb faces.

Offline WestCountryLad

Veets hair removal cream

Just the normal one?  There are about a billion different varieties on amazon  :dash: 

TeenKylie

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That's not an explanation: it's merely the statement of what is in need of an explaining.

There has to be a reason.
The simplest one would be just that younger men don't know any different: they've only seen women with shaven pubes, in the wake of a practice women have spread amongst themselves as what they imagine men might prefer, but which is merely a female conception of beauty tied up with ease of cleanliness -- likely having originated in sex workers and/or movie stars and stage dancers who started making sure no hair could possibly showing at the edge or through bikini bottoms..
Men who have grown up with hairy havens I would think would prefer them because they know what they're missing.

As I say, there must be a reason women acquired pubic hair, and given that it hasn't been lost through evolution then it can't have been sexually selected against through male mate choice.
It would be a real mystery why all of a sudden men found hairless pubes attractive when hitherto they haven't through all of our evolution.
The mystery is solved if simply women with public hair aren't around owing to a sudden new form of women competing with each other.

Not at all. I think that some men genuinly love a shaven pussy...or a strip. Yes i agree the media has a certain influence on the way women should look, but its not completly down to that. I believe that when men genuinly love somthing they just do! You have your own opinion on what you like in a women but leave others to there own views! We all like differnt things at the end of the day and thats what makes us human.
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sheffsteve

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My point was: what is the explanation?
It's not at issue that some men express a preference for shaven pubes.

Offline WestCountryLad

An update on the veet hair removal cream............................

Used the cream on my balls, shaft & around the base using the spatula that it came with.  Left it on for 6 mins before scraping it off with the spatula & then thoroughly rinsed it all off.  Quite impressed with it although I think better results will be achieved when I get used to doing it.  It's good for most of the areas used, removing all the hair & leaving it feeling silky smooth except for my balls where applying it evenly with the spatula was quite difficult & so there's still a bit of shaving to do.  Will do this pre punt on sunday.

Is their a particular technique to applying to the sack?  Can you use your fingers to apply the cream more evenly?

Still a bit tingly down there but otherwise quite impressed  :cool:

softlad

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An update on the veet hair removal cream............................

Used the cream on my balls, shaft & around the base using the spatula that it came with.  Left it on for 6 mins before scraping it off with the spatula & then thoroughly rinsed it all off.  Quite impressed with it although I think better results will be achieved when I get used to doing it.  It's good for most of the areas used, removing all the hair & leaving it feeling silky smooth except for my balls where applying it evenly with the spatula was quite difficult & so there's still a bit of shaving to do.  Will do this pre punt on sunday.

Is their a particular technique to applying to the sack?  Can you use your fingers to apply the cream more evenly?

Still a bit tingly down there but otherwise quite impressed  :cool:

Is it meant to be used in 'sensitive' areas ?
I've heard  horror stories, were people have had bad reactions to stuff like this..... :scare:

Offline WestCountryLad

Is it meant to be used in 'sensitive' areas ?

Nope, but I like living on the edge  :lol:

(Tried a little bit first & that was ok so I went for the whole lot)

Louisa Leigh

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My lady garden is kept in the style the suits me and no-one else and thats mostly waxed with a bit of neatly trimmed hairs up top  :P

softlad

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My lady garden is kept in the style the suits me and no-one else and thats mostly waxed with a bit of neatly trimmed hairs up top  :P

Any particular design going on ?

Keen Punter

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You can't beat a hairy muff.  :cool:


SteveNova

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My point was: what is the explanation?
It's not at issue that some men express a preference for shaven pubes.
Why does my preference for the shaven look and feel need an explanation - or yours for unshaven? 

Offline AnthG

Giving this topic a little bump to say that I wish girls would stop it with the totally shaven look. Personally I hate it.

One of the things in business you make a killing on is being different/unique, if there is a few girls who offer the unshaven hairy look guys who are into this will book them due to the lack of competition.

There are a lot of guys into it. One of the most popular adult websites is ATK Natural and Hairy.

Just did a search for 5 miles from my postcode, no age restriction or anything just female Escort with Natural downstairs and not one single girl in my region has this! You would think at least one of the 40 year plus lazy past it Escorts would have it out of just being in the situation they no longer could care less but nope not one in my region with a natural look.

Seriously if a girl is losing business I would suggest she creates a new AW profile called UnshavenStacey (Obviously replace the name with hers). And then just leave that AW profile active a week and see the amount of interest you get. If you get none go back to your normal profile. I have a feeling the phone will be off the hook.

But come on to the girls reading this try going natural for a change. Please.
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GlasgowGirl

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Personally, I never shave it all off at all as it's just not a look I like. But then giant bush is not practical for me either as I go swimming and would get some funny looks! I leave a little strip in the middle, maybe about 1cm long. Although at times of general laziness I grow it out quite a bit!

No-one ever mentions it, work-wise. However, one of the most common emails I get (from people I have not met before, so do not know my pube-status) is "Are you shaven?" Almost all guys seem to prefer shaven these days. Well obviously not all, given the title of this thread!

softlad

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Personally, I never shave it all off at all as it's just not a look I like. But then giant bush is not practical for me either as I go swimming and would get some funny looks! I leave a little strip in the middle, maybe about 1cm long.

I can't picture what you mean, perhaps you should show us ?  :cool:

Offline AnthG

Personally, I never shave it all off at all as it's just not a look I like. But then giant bush is not practical for me either as I go swimming and would get some funny looks!
You would get looks but they would not be funny ones. Alongside a lot of turned on men in that pool.

It would be great if AW made it a requirement to stipulate the shaved-ness of the Escort before creating a profile as I have a feeling natural girls exist but just because AW makes it an optional tick box many wont tick it out of the same laziness that causes them not to shave.

Just as a conversation opener has anyone saw an Escort that was totally in the extreme side of things, even if they intended to or not, as in something like (which I think she is gorgeous in my opinion - I think I have a lot of fetishes it seems.).

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Offline willie loman

I was watching french telly on holiday, and there was a documentary on prostitutes, and one girl who had worked the st denise area, explained that she only had to flash her unshaven armpits, and the clients came trotting. I too have swam all my adult life, and years ago girls would turn up in the pool with a huge bush showing, and underarm hair. Mind you that was in the old pool at infirmary st in Edinburgh, popular with the studenti. There is a big demand for fanny hair, unfortunately the few girls who are hirstute in Edinburgh parlours, are usually saphists.

TeenKylie

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I remember when I was 14 and I really wanted this guy I liked to touch me but when he saw my bush he told me to shave it off. So that's when I started shaving :rolleyes:

James999

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I remember when I was 14 and I really wanted this guy I liked to touch me but when he saw my bush he told me to shave it off. So that's when I started shaving :rolleyes:

Did you walk around naked then? otherwise he'd have to have his hand down yoru knickers before he realised you had a hairy muff.... I think we need the full story please.....  :cool:

TeenKylie

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Did you walk around naked then? otherwise he'd have to have his han d down yoru knickers before he realised you had a hairy muff.... I think we need the full story please.....  :cool:
He went to touch me yeah and then said he wouldn't till I shaved it off. I don't think I understood some men found it unattractive at that stage.

Offline AnthG

He went to touch me yeah and then said he wouldn't till I shaved it off. I don't think I understood some men found it unattractive at that stage.
The guys an idiot, in many stages than just one.

At most fundamental he is 14 (I hope) has a hot girl next to him naked and he puts stipulations onto touching her!  He was likely gay and this was his way of hiding it.

I would say this guy is gone, go back to the unshaven glory.

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James999

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He went to touch me yeah and then said he wouldn't till I shaved it off. I don't think I understood some men found it unattractive at that stage.

Fuck me, you must have been Keen / Desperate / Mad (delete as appropriate.......

Top girl for doing as you were told though  :sarcastic: I bet when he found out you would follow his requests you ended up with a sore butt hole  :sarcastic:

James999

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He was likely gay and this was his way of hiding it.

Must be, as only Gays like shaven pussies  :dash:

Most girls shave them to keep crabs etc at bay  :scare:

TeenKylie

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Fuck me, you must have been Keen / Desperate / Mad (delete as appropriate.......

Top girl for doing as you were told though  :sarcastic: I bet when he found out you would follow his requests you ended up with a sore butt hole  :sarcastic:
Not at all. I just liked him that was all and I had never had someone touch me and I really wanted it lol. And no I did not do anal until I was 16. :rolleyes:

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Offline Matium

There's Mary Cooper Devine if anyone's interested in an unshaven girl:

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Offline WestCountryLad


Just as a conversation opener has anyone saw an Escort that was totally in the extreme side of things, even if they intended to or not, as in something like (which I think she is gorgeous in my opinion - I think I have a lot of fetishes it seems.).


Not seen her & have absolutely no interest in doing so but this girl doesn't shave anything  :dash:  You can quite clearly see the tash!

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AnthG you are weird mate  :drinks:


Offline AnthG

Not seen her & have absolutely no interest in doing so but this girl doesn't shave anything  :dash:  You can quite clearly see the tash!

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I would see her but Bristol is literally the other end of the country.

AnthG you are weird mate  :drinks:
:(  but I think it is just the case of which decade you grew up, in the 80's and 90's porn movies / top shelf mags it was all girls with hair.

Every porn mag you bought in the 90's had girls with hair on them.

Even with the internet in the early 2000's it was not the norm. I would say I have been a major connoisseur of adult websites and for many years it was a serious niche shaven girls.

Its only recent years has the shaven look become the norm.
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Offline Matium

I have to say that if I'm paying for a woman then I expect her to be totally clean, hairless (except on her head!), perfumed and wearing the costume I want, ie, she should be totally feminine!

I can't understand men who want hairy mutts.

Still there's nowt so queer as folk!

To each, their own.

 :D

Offline AnthG

I have to say that if I'm paying for a woman then I expect her to be totally clean, hairless (except on her head!), perfumed and wearing the costume I want, ie, she should be totally feminine!

I can't understand men who want hairy mutts
But for thousands upon thousands of years hairy women have been feminine.

Its only since about 2008 onwards has the hairless look took over.

*Edit* but saying that it would be interesting for those guys who have been punting for years which year it was that it suddenly switched from unshaven heaven to all girls shaved.

And what was it like as in the reaction to it.
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Offline WestCountryLad


Its only since about 2008 onwards has the hairless look took over.


Shaven havens have been popular for longer than that.  I download a lot of torrents, still have alot of the films from 9/10 years back & the big Yankee studios have always had their ladies hairless since back then.

Offline Matium

I think the majority of women, whether WGs or not, have always been shaven since they know that's what the majority of men like.

Offline AnthG

I think the majority of women, whether WGs or not, have always been shaven since they know that's what the majority of men like.
Will have to disagree.

If the top shelf mags are indicative of what guys want then like I say in the 90's every girl had a ful bush down there.

The most famous lads mag girl was Jo Guest.

And here are one of the pics of her

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Offline Matium

June Palmer, British porn star, 1958

Note "down there"

:)

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