Author Topic: SIR...Lewis Hamilton......deserved or not?  (Read 4699 times)

Offline Londonpunter30

There’s one crew / box but it’s the mechanics from each car that bring the tyres out.  A radio error meant when GR stopped he had Bottas tyres on as his crew didn’t bring his tyres out.

The teams work out that a double stack saves time over a lap behind the safety car.

Personally I’d take all this crap away and make it a race on the track with no stops.  If you want to overtake do it on track not in the pits

Offline Blackpool Rock

Going off topic now talking about pit crews etc and i'm happy to keep pit stops as it adds to the excitement but I do think they need to get a bit more back to basics so that we can see more driver skill, for example bring back manual gear change

Offline ratedj

Going off topic now talking about pit crews etc and i'm happy to keep pit stops as it adds to the excitement but I do think they need to get a bit more back to basics so that we can see more driver skill, for example bring back manual gear change

Some threads tend to organically evolve. Re pit stops, they have been, and always will be, a part of the sport's DNA. Manual gearboxes are not the answer. F1 is about showcasing technological advancements. 2022 will be an important step in trying to improve the racing. There needs to be a shift towards an emphasis on mechanical grip rather than aerodynamic grip. The problem is that in their current guise, modern F1 cars produce so much downforce that it is impossible for them to follow in close proximity. Also, track permitting, we need to see tracks re-introduce gravel traps. Currently, when it comes to track limits, the balance between risk versus reward heavily favours reward, whereby the long, tarmaced run-off areas afford drivers the opportunity to explore the track limits knowing that there is little to no chance of them encountering any challenge.   

Offline Londonpunter30

I difference I notice between pit stops Pre and post 94, but Pre 94 it was get new tyres to pass on track.   Now it’s use a pit stop to pass without making an overtake on track

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Hamilton deserves to be knighted IMO. Now the most successful F1 (arguably the pinnacle of motor racing) driver of all time. He has matured since his early days and tries to use his prominence to support causes he feels strongly about. It is said by Toto Woolf that he leads his team and works hard using considerable knowledge and experience to get the most out of the team and his car. He acknowledges the importance of his team in his success.
Yes, for these reasons, I believe he’s earned the right to be called “sir”.

Offline Blackpool Rock

Some threads tend to organically evolve. Re pit stops, they have been, and always will be, a part of the sport's DNA. Manual gearboxes are not the answer. F1 is about showcasing technological advancements. 2022 will be an important step in trying to improve the racing. There needs to be a shift towards an emphasis on mechanical grip rather than aerodynamic grip. The problem is that in their current guise, modern F1 cars produce so much downforce that it is impossible for them to follow in close proximity. Also, track permitting, we need to see tracks re-introduce gravel traps. Currently, when it comes to track limits, the balance between risk versus reward heavily favours reward, whereby the long, tarmaced run-off areas afford drivers the opportunity to explore the track limits knowing that there is little to no chance of them encountering any challenge.
Yes in fact most threads end up talking about something totally different to the original post, thank god for Godwins law  :D

I only used manual gear change as an example and perhaps you're right that it would be a retrograde step given the cutting edge nature of the sport but we want to see closer racing and overtaking etc however achieving that has been talked about for years but never really come about as one team tends to have an edge and therefore be dominant.

Occasionally when there is a major rule change it throws the cat amongst the pigeons but often the team that was on top stays on top as they have the best designer
The cars do have massive downforce however I believe they have taken steps in the past to reduce this with wing sizes etc, not sure if it's still the case but at one time the cars would have driven on the ceiling if they could  :scare:
Evolution of tech and car improvement has seen innovation feed through to road cars such as disc brakes and reliability but the cars being unreliable used to have you still gripped on the last lap even if someone was 30 seconds ahead as they still may not finish, seem to remember Mansell winning by half a lap and conking out at the last corner  :D

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Yes in fact most threads end up talking about something totally different to the original post, thank god for Godwins law  :D

I only used manual gear change as an example and perhaps you're right that it would be a retrograde step given the cutting edge nature of the sport but we want to see closer racing and overtaking etc however achieving that has been talked about for years but never really come about as one team tends to have an edge and therefore be dominant.

Occasionally when there is a major rule change it throws the cat amongst the pigeons but often the team that was on top stays on top as they have the best designer
The cars do have massive downforce however I believe they have taken steps in the past to reduce this with wing sizes etc, not sure if it's still the case but at one time the cars would have driven on the ceiling if they could  :scare:
Evolution of tech and car improvement has seen innovation feed through to road cars such as disc brakes and reliability but the cars being unreliable used to have you still gripped on the last lap even if someone was 30 seconds ahead as they still may not finish, seem to remember Mansell winning by half a lap and conking out at the last corner  :D

I do agree with you, in that we want to see closer racing. Part of the issue has been that when it comes to devising new technical regulations, teams will have a say in the process, and they invariably tend to try and put their own interests first. Taking into accout recent times, from 2009 to 2013 F1 was an aero forumla (the Red Bull years), and then from 2014 to 2016 an engine formula (que Mercedes' dominance), and from 2017 till now it's been an aero/engine formula (continued Mercedes dominance). F1 cars still produce enough downfore whereby, theoretically speaking, they could drive upside down.

Another issue is that F1 houses the best engineers in the world. 2019 saw the introduction of a new front wing, which it was hoped would allow cars to follow each other closely, thus allowing for increased overtaking. The top teams estimated that their 2019 cars would start the season 1.5 seconds slower than their 2018 counterparts, though by the end of the season those teams had recovered the 1.5 seconds deficit and the lost downforce. F1 then finds itself back at square one.

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From a racing point of view he most def. deserves it, best car or not you still have to get it round in front time and time again. Cannot help thinking that the evasion of UK tax has been over looked in favour of it being the right time politically.

His fortune is not going to stop growing once he hangs up his gloves, paying tax to his homeland would not have been felt in the grand scheme of things. Tax evasion by big business and the likes of Hamilton will have a profound affect in our recovery from this virus and a change of heart, now he has been recognized and awarded as a brit, would not go amiss.
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Offline Charlie Chalk

You clearly have no real idea about how succeeding in F1 a car's development does not stop when a new driver signs or when racing starts.  The engineers and contracting have continued ability and opportunity throughout the lifecycle, racing or not, to fuck up the machine as evidenced by many teams over the years.
F1 is a team sport, the driver is integral and critical to the tuning of the car because it is his driving style that has to be supported by the performance of the car.  If the driver is worth his salt then he makes a point to know more about the engineering and science so he can contribute more deeply to the development of the car throughout its evolution whether during the racing season or not.

Tax-wise, things may not be as tough now as they were then (50% vs 80% or whatever) but then the sums of money are not what they are now (another debate about how our societies reward success).  I'd rather that all citizens pay tax to their nation so you either condemn all expats or none.  On the other hand I am extremely averse to local and national government pissing away tax revenues on things I do not support or believe in, whether that's my tuppence in penury or my millions if I were uber-rich.  Unless you can account for his (lack of) UK charitable contribution then you have no idea what his actual financial contribution is to this nation.  Let alone accounting for the wealth and employment he brings to others resident in the nation and the taxes that they pay here, which would not be as great without the success achieved due to his participation.
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Is he, or did he have the best car? Hard to tease apart. Personally I think there should be no teams in F1, and they should all have to drive in the same car.

I can't stand the little shit but he's easily the best driver,anybody involved in F1 will tell you that and if they all drove the same car there would be no F1.
I don't think he should be knighted because of his rampant tax evasion.
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Offline Moby Dick

I can't stand the little shit but he's easily the best driver,anybody involved in F1 will tell you that and if they all drove the same car there would be no F1.
I don't think he should be knighted because of his rampant tax evasion.
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I can't stand the little shit but he's easily the best driver,anybody involved in F1 will tell you that and if they all drove the same car there would be no F1.
I don't think he should be knighted because of his rampant tax evasion.
Tax evasion is illegal if you have evidence he is evading tax you should report it to HMRC. 

Offline lostandfound

Drivers are the face of F1, which is an entertainment industry, and Hamilton has done more for it than any driver since Ayrton Senna. So well deserved IMO.

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Tax evasion is illegal if you have evidence he is evading tax you should report it to HMRC.

I doubt they'd be interested  and I don't have the time,perhaps for the pedantic avoidance was the word I was looking for.
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I doubt they'd be interested  and I don't have the time,perhaps for the pedantic avoidance was the word I was looking for.
If you meant avoidance then there's nothing illegal in that, I would say 90% of the places you buy from avoid paying as much tax as they can.

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I doubt they'd be interested  and I don't have the time,perhaps for the pedantic avoidance was the word I was looking for.

Have an ISA?

Pension?

Self-employed and claim against expenses?

Writing off past losses?

Company car or other assets?

"Office" at home?