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Offline Hobbit

My name has changed many times, and will continue to change in future. Anyway, before I get accused of derailing: as you were...

Can we choose your next name? :D

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But if someone truly wants to find a WG who posts here's reviews etc it shouldn't take much effort even if she changes her name (as Rochelle has) cos the reviews will be collated anyway.

Quote from: UKP Rules
This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers.
All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

So I guess she must have owned up at some point.

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I would argue it's actually a conscious decision. And also fits the question that started this thread. Most punters would rather spend their hard earned on a friendly and enthusiastic SP than otherwise, and this takes chemistry, often banter too, which needs time to develop and it's certainly an unknown when you're taking a punt. When you read someone on a forum for long enough, you start to get to know them a little bit, and it's only natural to decide if you'd click away from keyboard (or not). So, it makes perfect sense for a UKP member to consider visiting the most active SPs on here, even when they're not blatantly touting.

For sure, I've added the redhead you speak of (Tailseeker?) to my hot list, but she was a tad expensive so never got round to actually seeing her before her profile disappeared.

Yeah that makes sense.

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Can we choose your next name? :D
Ha! I let someone do that earlier in the year. For a while, my name was Kelsey Grammar.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 07:37:53 pm by Rochelle »

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Ha! I let someone do that earlier in the year. For a while, my name was Kelsey Grammar.

Frasier always had a strange sense of humour!    :D

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My name has changed many times, and will continue to change in future. Anyway, before I get accused of derailing: as you were...

Well, you can swerve a question; I'll give you that!

"And the award for disingenuous answer goes to ..."
« Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 10:22:05 pm by Home Alone »

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I would argue it's actually a conscious decision. And also fits the question that started this thread.
Most punters would rather spend their hard earned on a friendly and enthusiastic SP than otherwise, and this takes chemistry, often banter too, which needs time to develop and it's certainly an unknown when you're taking a punt. When you read someone on a forum for long enough, you start to get to know them a little bit, and it's only natural to decide if you'd click away from keyboard (or not). So, it makes perfect sense for a UKP member to consider visiting the most active SPs on here, even when they're not blatantly touting.

For sure, I've added the redhead you speak of (Tailseeker?) to my hot list, but she was a tad expensive so never got round to actually seeing her before her profile disappeared.

Too right, xyfek, imo. +1

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Actually, you're absolutely right! They do come on here solely to tout. I was trying to sit on the fence when I said that because I didn't want all of the fluffies coming out to attack me with their furry pink axes. :D

Touting is certainly not what I'm on here for, i find many of the discussions interesting and like reading the reviews, I've learnt a lot from them and the comments on them, oh and we do have value other than a paid fuck you know  :rolleyes:

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Well, you can swerve a question; I'll give you that!

"And the award for disingenuous answer goes to ..."
Disingenuous? I didn't want to be accused of touting. And it's true that my name changes from time to time.
A simple search of the site is all it takes anyway.
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Well I did a two second search and found old reviews of someone called Rochelle (as there’s probably reviews for most girls’ names): but no working AW link. Is she retired or working or just coy? Where’s the profile?

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Well I did a two second search and found old reviews of someone called Rochelle (as there’s probably reviews for most girls’ names): but no working AW link. Is she retired or working or just coy? Where’s the profile?
She can't tell you, she can't promote herself.   :hi:   I'm sure anyone who's interested could find her profile if they really wanted to.

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She can't tell you, she can't promote herself.   :hi:   I'm sure anyone who's interested could find her profile if they really wanted to.

I can only assume the mods or admin know who she is?? I searched UKP which gave no definite result, both with our UKP search engine and with google search, and also used reverse image search on her avatar image in several engines.

The closest was this one which has a string of neg reviews and comments. The reverse image search also shows the escort (from Diva Escorts), who admits to being now in her mid-thirties, which would allow for the saggier tits, and wearing a similar but not identical weird black item of clothing with holes in it.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=199689.msg2062043#msg2062043

Maybe yourself or Film Director or someone can confirm if it is the same p4p and we can understand why her phone is so dusty that she has time to post so much on here. :hi:

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I can only assume the mods or admin know who she is?? I searched UKP which gave no definite result, both with our UKP search engine and with google search, and also used reverse image search on her avatar image in several engines.

The closest was this one which has a string of neg reviews and comments. The reverse image search also shows the escort (from Diva Escorts), who admits to being now in her mid-thirties, which would allow for the saggier tits, and wearing a similar but not identical weird black item of clothing with holes in it.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=199689.msg2062043#msg2062043

Maybe yourself or Film Director or someone can confirm if it is the same p4p and we can understand why her phone is so dusty that she has time to post so much on here. :hi:
She has 20 reviews on here dating back to 2016, most recent being this year and none mention an agency, however I know exactly who it is including her current working name. I'm not going to post it on here though, that would only lead to accusations that it was only posted because she is a member here.


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Well I see she admits to a photo...
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=125223.msg1420300#msg1420300

35, "size 14". Defo not my cup of tea. In fact I wish I hadn't looked. But her posts are mostly ok. I seem to have had the odd run in with her when she's been a bit cocky but nothing against her.



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I can only assume the mods or admin know who she is?? I searched UKP which gave no definite result, both with our UKP search engine and with google search, and also used reverse image search on her avatar image in several engines.

The closest was this one which has a string of neg reviews and comments. The reverse image search also shows the escort (from Diva Escorts), who admits to being now in her mid-thirties, which would allow for the saggier tits, and wearing a similar but not identical weird black item of clothing with holes in it.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=199689.msg2062043#msg2062043

Maybe yourself or Film Director or someone can confirm if it is the same p4p and we can understand why her phone is so dusty that she has time to post so much on here. :hi:
I've spoken to one of the admin team and mentioned that I had a new profile on AW. I also mentioned that my working name often changes. So far, there are no issues.

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Well I see she admits to a photo...
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=125223.msg1420300#msg1420300

35, "size 14". Defo not my cup of tea. In fact I wish I hadn't looked. But her posts are mostly ok. I seem to have had the odd run in with her when she's been a bit cocky but nothing against her.

Post 206 above links in at least some of her reviews under various names she has used, plus some of us know her present name from UKE where she posts on a quite regular basis, and does link her A/W profile in which is of course allowed on their.

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I've spoken to one of the admin team and mentioned that I had a new profile on AW. I also mentioned that my working name often changes. So far, there are no issues.

No worries. I've found your identity on another thread.  ;)

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Post 206 above links in at least some of her reviews under various names she has used, plus some of us know her present name from UKE where she posts on a quite regular basis, and does link her A/W profile in which is of course allowed on their.

Yes I saw that one but it wasn't that informative, but I've now found there's several popcorn threads devoted to her. Surprised you go on UKE Smiths. A bit of slumming eh?  :D

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Yes I saw that one but it wasn't that informative, but I've now found there's several popcorn threads devoted to her. Surprised you go on UKE Smiths. A bit of slumming eh?  :D

I have been a member on their since old admin started it as I agreed with his idea, get the touting off here and hopefully get the white knight fanboys to follow which in some cases they did. ;)

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I have been a member on their since old admin started it as I agreed with his idea, get the touting off here and hopefully get the white knight fanboys to follow which in some cases they did. ;)
I suppose you might pick up useful info though it’s not something I have ever found efficient enough to visit often. Like you I joined when it started as I supported the idea, which is exactly as you stated, but I’ve only visited briefly — about 3 times in its existence.

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My account on UKE seems either to have been deleted, probably  from utter lack of activity, or else I can not remember what email I used to login: so cheers to existing members who provide relevant information from there. It seems it is now shut off to new members — which unfortunately I suppose will also include new touts and white knights. 

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My account on UKE seems either to have been deleted, probably  from utter lack of activity, or else I can not remember what email I used to login: so cheers to existing members who provide relevant information from there. It seems it is now shut off to new members — which unfortunately I suppose will also include new touts and white knights.

They purged old profiles and arent currently registering

These days i only used to visit to ask why UKP was down :D
As we share members, i know they wont know and not affiliated etc.

Sometimes use it to see if a wg has any other photos, you can circumcent the registration to see a WG photo gallery.

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I've spoken to one of the admin team and mentioned that I had a new profile on AW. I also mentioned that my working name often changes. So far, there are no issues.
I don't understand the fascination in searching for your working name, if I didn't know and wanted to I would PM you and ask.   :unknown:

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I don't understand the fascination in searching for your working name, if I didn't know and wanted to I would PM you and ask.   :unknown:
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Innit.

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He was not the one that said anything about WGs liking him in any particular manner leading to a better service, I was. That was already resolved, I already apologised for how I came across as. You're barking up the wrong tree saying that to him when he never really said that. He was disputing what Rochelle said to me from my initial post in the first page of the thread which has now spilled over to another topic of whether SPs should be allowed on this site.
Yeh i know you explained your situation.
What i was curious about tho was this knack that JerkChicken speaks of on page 2 : "Some guys have a knack of making WGs feel good about themselves in the murky world of cock
and paid pussy. This can lead to being attracted to the punter so an excellent punt follows unscripted no acting involved."
The inference being that JerkC has some personal insight into this knack.
Youve not claimed to have any knack so i cant ask you about it can i ?
Im just curious wether beyond turning up clean, respectful and pleasant , there is any substance to this knack , is it real or is it just the product of an overinflated ego ?
When a good SP gives you a good service and tells your your great , you can either go away thinking you got a good service because she was a good SP and take her
compliments with a pinch of salt or you can walk away thinking you really are handsome and charming with a big cock like she told you and thats the reason you got a good service,
and you must be special and you must have a special knack with the hookers.
My opinion is that the idea of having a knack with hookers is largely a delusion born of either stupidity and or ego.
Hookers are professionals , its no more credible than saying you have a knack with acountants.
Anyway like i said i was just curious  :thumbsup:

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Yeh i know you explained your situation.
What i was curious about tho was this knack that JerkChicken speaks of on page 2 : "Some guys have a knack of making WGs feel good about themselves in the murky world of cock
and paid pussy. This can lead to being attracted to the punter
so an excellent punt follows unscripted no acting involved."
The inference being that JerkC has some personal insight into this knack.
Youve not claimed to have any knack so i cant ask you about it can i ?
Im just curious wether beyond turning up clean, respectful and pleasant , there is any substance to this knack , is it real or is it just the product of an overinflated ego ?
When a good SP gives you a good service and tells your your great , you can either go away thinking you got a good service because she was a good SP and take her
compliments with a pinch of salt or you can walk away thinking you really are handsome and charming with a big cock like she told you and thats the reason you got a good service,
and you must be special and you must have a special knack with the hookers.
My opinion is that the idea of having a knack with hookers is largely a delusion born of either stupidity and or ego.
Hookers are professionals , its no more credible than saying you have a knack with acountants.
Anyway like i said i was just curious  :thumbsup:

The bit I have highlighted in bold, I would slightly disagree with. Hookers don't particularly care about compliments so much. They may do a little but the biggest compliment you can give them is an extra £50 note, they would then definitely like you more. Obviously, everyone woman likes to be flattered by compliments etc. but we shouldn't get carried away thinking more about it than it is.

Obviously, hygiene and being nice definitely goes a long way. One thing I have learned over the years is that there are so many people that don't shower every day. I've met at least a few that have confessed to not having daily showers thinking it's perfectly normal to them. I also remember an escort who has now retired who said to me once that she only showers when she sees clients otherwise, sometimes she would go a couple of days without showering as she thought it's good for the skin that way.

So there are some strange folks out there. :unknown:
« Last Edit: October 16, 2020, 02:27:27 pm by Hobbit »

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Yeh i know you explained your situation.
What i was curious about tho was this knack that JerkChicken speaks of on page 2 : "Some guys have a knack of making WGs feel good about themselves in the murky world of cock
and paid pussy. This can lead to being attracted to the punter so an excellent punt follows unscripted no acting involved."

If I may, maybe I can try to perhaps put this in better words. Not rocket science and not everyone will appreciate it. (And it is not required, any more than you have to smile at the fucking bank teller.)

Charisma is something that can be learnt. It's more than being freshly showered and not having spinach between your teeth. It is kind of easy to forget unless you are a high level professional sales person. But it's not hard. You can practice on civvies, e.g. the check-out girl, just make someone smile today with your warmth, then walk away. Think "This is an interesting person" – not because you are going to ask them dumb questions but simply to heighten your own awareness of her and practice being who you want to be. Be relaxed, make casual eye contact (not head on), smile from inside (smiles start from the eyes), listen to the person, and not just with your ears and head but with your whole body. Mirror their body movements/language, time and speed of voice. Respect their body space and be aware of when you enter it using a gesture that you judge will be welcomed. Feel good about yourself and (mentally) extend that feeling to the other person. Notice something (pleasant) that is individual about them. The whole of this takes no more than 15 seconds and can become semi-automatic.

If you are reasonably adept at this, you either get a slightly softened and warmer response or else she is in robot-mode. If the latter, you just have to make the best of it. Carry on feeling good about yourself and orchestrate the punt.

The point is, that a good p4p will have the same charm and charisma or at least know how to respond to yours. If she gives zero eye-contact (other than a stare) and starts to give instructions, just say, "Hold on a minute... let's start with..."

There's also p4ps who can be charming for the intros but who switch off either when the money has changed hands, or when the penetrative sex starts, or won't take direction. If you orchestrate the punt though she may at least put you down as a slightly less worse fucker but she isn't likely to change much in my experience.

It isn't about going gooey, giving tips, talking shite, or thinking that the interaction 'means' something beyond the period of the punt. Call it heightened courtesy if you like, but remember she is doing a job and you are doing purchase. That's all.

I'd put good p4ps who follow through with good attitude (as if they care about the customer) at about 1 in 8. I expect to come out of the punt feeling fantastic rather than just about all right. The big middle are just tolerable and the worst are badly programmed robotic cash collectors.

A word to any p4ps reading: we have a lot of experience of a wide range, many p4ps. You don't. So we are entitled to make generalisations. We experience the best and the worst, and it won't always match what they say to their mates on saffy or whatever!

Enjoy  :hi:

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Every pussy is paid for.....but let's not go there. :D

When i think what the divorce setlement added up to i could have bought every puss inthe UK and then some!

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Yeh i know you explained your situation.
What i was curious about tho was this knack that JerkChicken speaks of on page 2 : "Some guys have a knack of making WGs feel good about themselves in the murky world of cock
and paid pussy. This can lead to being attracted to the punter so an excellent punt follows unscripted no acting involved."
The inference being that JerkC has some personal insight into this knack.
Youve not claimed to have any knack so i cant ask you about it can i ?
Im just curious wether beyond turning up clean, respectful and pleasant , there is any substance to this knack , is it real or is it just the product of an overinflated ego ?
When a good SP gives you a good service and tells your your great , you can either go away thinking you got a good service because she was a good SP and take her
compliments with a pinch of salt or you can walk away thinking you really are handsome and charming with a big cock like she told you and thats the reason you got a good service,
and you must be special and you must have a special knack with the hookers.
My opinion is that the idea of having a knack with hookers is largely a delusion born of either stupidity and or ego.
Hookers are professionals , its no more credible than saying you have a knack with acountants.
Anyway like i said i was just curious  :thumbsup:

My experiences and that of punters I know tells me there is no special formula to punting or knack. Turn up polite, on time, clean with the right cash and you have done your part of the deal. Smile as that can go a long way in life and have a good time. Of course this assumes the WG offers a good service.

There are some punters who don't want to do one or more of the above so a punter who does them already has a head start with many WGs.

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When i think what the divorce setlement added up to i could have bought every puss inthe UK and then some!

Or just had a big orgy instead. :D

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Or just had a big orgy instead. :D

"All pussy is paid for". But it is probably worth making a distitinction not just on the cash expended but on the fact that you are somehow expected to do the "nice" thing for a long time, probably with frequent intrusions on your privacy to be guarded against. Like it's in capitals.

You start with 'gfe' and descend to 'robotic with excuses' if not careful. Just try to make the 'honeymoon' last as long as possible!

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If I may, maybe I can try to perhaps put this in better words. Not rocket science and not everyone will appreciate it. (And it is not required, any more than you have to smile at the fucking bank teller.)
<snip>
Enjoy  :hi:
Yes thanks for your input Marm . Yeh of course theres charm , charisma and just being pleasant but id surmise that is standard behaviour for most all forum members . Id not call that a knack or a special skillset unless the accompanying assumption is that everyone else turns up unwashed and dribbling out the sides of their mouth  :unknown:
I tend to agree with Smiths that with hookers youve done your part turning up on time with the right cash with a smile on your face. If you walk out happy thinking your gorgeous , got a massive cock and a knack with the hookers then the hookers has done a good job on you, but its the hooker that has tilted the punt one way or another rather than the punters knack with them, assuming a baseline of punters turning up clean and pleasant.
I wonder do punters who attribute good punts to their knack also attribute bad punts to their lack of knack , no they dont its because the hooker was bad.  In the same way a good punt was a good punt because the hooker was good.

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Yes thanks for your input Marm . Yeh of course theres charm , charisma and just being pleasant but id surmise that is standard behaviour for most all forum members . Id not call that a knack or a special skillset unless the accompanying assumption is that everyone else turns up unwashed and dribbling out the sides of their mouth  :unknown:
I tend to agree with Smiths that with hookers youve done your part turning up on time with the right cash with a smile on your face. If you walk out happy thinking your gorgeous , got a massive cock and a knack with the hookers then the hookers has done a good job on you, but its the hooker that has tilted the punt one way or another rather than the punters knack with them, assuming a baseline of punters turning up clean and pleasant.
I wonder do punters who attribute good punts to their knack also attribute bad punts to their lack of knack , no they dont its because the hooker was bad.  In the same way a good punt was a good punt because the hooker was good.

A bad carpenter always blames his tools  ;)

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"All pussy is paid for". But it is probably worth making a distitinction not just on the cash expended but on the fact that you are somehow expected to do the "nice" thing for a long time, probably with frequent intrusions on your privacy to be guarded against. Like it's in capitals.

You start with 'gfe' and descend to 'robotic with excuses' if not careful. Just try to make the 'honeymoon' last as long as possible!

There should be "agree" buttons for posts!

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My opinion is that the idea of having a knack with hookers is largely a delusion born of either stupidity and or ego.

In most instances probably yes ... but not always.

I know I am going to need a tin hat for saying this  :D .. but if the punter genuinely possesses the right skill sets (and not just thinks he does) then in my experience it can massively influence a session, even sometimes with the classic mechanical cold SP.

I stand back and wait for incoming ....

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There should be "agree" buttons for posts!

Yes but theres agree - and a million shades of "agree"...

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In most instances probably yes ... but not always.

I know I am going to need a tin hat for saying this  :D .. but if the punter genuinely possesses the right skill sets (and not just thinks he does) then in my experience it can massively influence a session, even sometimes with the classic mechanical cold SP.

I stand back and wait for incoming ....

Everyone has their own reasons for punting, and I suppose for the married guys it may well be preferable to having affairs, but if someone has all that knack with women (and is aware of it) surely he would pull some civvies, no?

Maybe I'm just projecting, as the main reason for my punting is the complete lack of knack, so when I leave in doubt that's a sign of a good punt, but I'm also certain the SP was just playing her part :(

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In most instances probably yes ... but not always.

I know I am going to need a tin hat for saying this  :D .. but if the punter genuinely possesses the right skill sets (and not just thinks he does) then in my experience it can massively influence a session, even sometimes with the classic mechanical cold SP.

I stand back and wait for incoming ....

Not actually a controversial post, most men, understand that some men, have the right stuff.

Offline gbyld87

Not actually a controversial post, most men, understand that some men, have the right stuff.

The rest of us pay someone to tell us we do  :lol:

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Everyone has their own reasons for punting, and I suppose for the married guys it may well be preferable to having affairs, but if someone has all that knack with women (and is aware of it) surely he would pull some civvies, no?

Maybe I'm just projecting, as the main reason for my punting is the complete lack of knack, so when I leave in doubt that's a sign of a good punt, but I'm also certain the SP was just playing her part :(

Yes you would think that men who have the knack wouldnt need to punt, but i dont agree, they just have different reasons to punt. ask wgs if they ever get some really hot clients, you might find their answers interesting.

Offline Bum Lovin Criminal

In most instances probably yes ... but not always.

I know I am going to need a tin hat for saying this  :D .. but if the punter genuinely possesses the right skill sets (and not just thinks he does) then in my experience it can massively influence a session, even sometimes with the classic mechanical cold SP.

I stand back and wait for incoming ....


No tin hat required there DH.. :hi:

But we've got a pen and a pad at the ready........Any top tips there teach? :D

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Everyone has their own reasons for punting, and I suppose for the married guys it may well be preferable to having affairs, but if someone has all that knack with women (and is aware of it) surely he would pull some civvies, no?

Maybe I'm just projecting, as the main reason for my punting is the complete lack of knack, so when I leave in doubt that's a sign of a good punt, but I'm also certain the SP was just playing her part :(
Not necessarily. As you say, everyone has their own reasons for punting. Some guys just can't be arsed with going out on the pull when they can just call someone.

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No tin hat required there DH.. :hi:

But we've got a pen and a pad at the ready........Any top tips there teach? :D

All the girls love a doctor, they are just waiting to hear those magic words,"just slip off your blouse".