Very odd behaviour from a lady on AW

[randomuser107]

OK, so...long story, but here goes.

A working lady appeared on the AW radar not far from me a while back. Due to COVID she wasn't working till early September. I pinged her a message a few weeks before she was due to be back in the saddle, and we exchanged a few messages to set something up. Then she suddenly stops replying - I check here, and using the "deleted immediately after sent" method, figured she'd blocked me. No idea why - our messages were straight back and forths setting up an appointment.

So I have a different profile which I use to make an initial enquiry. She replies pretty much immediately - we set up a meet for last Thursday, and all looks good until the morning of the meet when she says that she can't make it as her child's got to stay home from nursery. No problem, I say, perhaps we can reschedule for same time next week. Yep, all good, she says, touch base on the day before (today) to confirm.

I message today to confirm - it's read, then deleted by her without reply - she deletes all the previous messages too. Odd, I think. I give it a few hours, and then just send a quick one liner to check everything's alright for tomorrow and sure enough, it's deleted immediately.

I know there's no way of knowing why she's doing it. She has little feedback (4 or 5, all positive), but seems genuine. Any thoughts?

[tesla]

and a link to this SP please

[randomuser107]

and a link to this SP please

Sorry, not at this stage. She may be on here (although it's unlikely).

[scutty brown]

AW may have linked your second profile as an alias of the first

[randomuser107]

AW may have linked your second profile as an alias of the first

Aye, I guess - although two completely separate emails. And would it notify her that that was the case? And it still wouldn't address why she blocked the first (the second was set up after she blocked the first).

[RedKettle]

Sorry, not at this stage. She may be on here (although it's unlikely).

Why would that bother you?  She has messed you around so surely not going to try again.  You will get better responses on here with a link.

I notice your review is a negative for a similar no show.  Are you doing anything that might be sending the wrong signals?  Or as mentioned above as you have several AW profiles that may be it.

Not excusing bad behaviour, just trying to help you if there is something you can change that may prevent it.

[tesla]

Sorry, not at this stage. She may be on here (although it's unlikely).

so move on, find someone else

[randomuser107]

Why would that bother you?  She has messed you around so surely not going to try again.  You will get better responses on here with a link.

I notice your review is a negative for a similar no show.  Are you doing anything that might be sending the wrong signals?  Or as mentioned above as you have several AW profiles that may be it.

Not excusing bad behaviour, just trying to help you if there is something you can change that may prevent it.

Fair question (on the review), but I think that's just a coincidence - I've had a number of encounters (I've reviewed one other here, but as a comment on an existing review, so it doesn't show as "my" review) without issue - this lady and the one the subject of my review are the only issues I've experienced. My original AW profile has nothing but positive reviews.

[professorlove]

Out of curiosity, why so many profiles here and there? Why can't you just use the one account? Makes you look suspicious. Maybe she just doesn't want to see you. In the same way I don't want to see some escorts.

[randomuser107]

Out of curiosity, why so many profiles here and there? Why can't you just use the one account?

Only the two - and the second was only set up to try and have a second shot at setting up a meeting with this lady.

[andyw1969]

Only the two - and the second was only set up to try and have a second shot at setting up a meeting with this lady.

So you set up a 2nd profile just to set up a meet with  AW member who you said had blocked you?

Sounds very dodgy to me ? Also i'm quite sure AW can link accounts by the ip address ?

[MissWolf]

Only the two - and the second was only set up to try and have a second shot at setting up a meeting with this lady.

Bit stalkerish

[daviemac]

Sorry, not at this stage. She may be on here (although it's unlikely).

You're a self confessed lurker who wants help yet you won't even post a link to who you are talking about, others may have had a similar problem with her, but my guess is she's sussed you have a alias on AW and you've failed her basic checks.

Unless you post a link to who it is this thread is totally pointless.

[scutty brown]

Aye, I guess - although two completely separate emails. And would it notify her that that was the case? And it still wouldn't address why she blocked the first (the second was set up after she blocked the first).

IP address and/or browser fingerprinting could be enough, and yes AW flag duplicate accounts as aliases

Its simple - she thought you were a dickhead and blocked you, then did the same to the second account when she realised they were linked.
What did you do to make her think that? Probably too many daft questions

[tynetunnel]

She might not be the only one thinking that 

[Bonker]

One of the advantages of punting is not having to worry about the girl's behaviour.

When this sort of thing happened to me I used to shrug my shoulders and move on. Now I don't bother to shrug.

Unless I consider that she needs to be reported in a review, to help others.

[davidgood]

I suspect that he  is trying to see a pretty savvy SP who access or looks at this and other sites.

She realises with only one negative review and a few historic posts he is probably, to put it kindley, a bit flakey.

Best for him to move on, see a few other SPs and do some reviews.

Regards,

davidgood

[Home Alone]

This; https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=284245.msg2971321#msg2971321 - was something I posted on the NW Discussion Board about a SP who only seems in the present situation to check her AW Inbox every Friday. She's a lass I saw about 4 years ago - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=122293.0 - and I thought she'd be an excellent re-introduction to punting.

I sent my first request to her about 10 days ago and she ignored it. So I sent another one just before the weekend and, on the NW Discussion Board yesterday, mentioned the fact that she's apparently not opened my second request.

At the end of the day, they're the Service Providers and if they don't want to provide a service to any one of us, then I guess we've all got to accept that, no matter how unpalatable it may be to our egos.

[davidgood]

This; https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=284245.msg2971321#msg2971321 - was something I posted on the NW Discussion Board about a SP who only seems in the present situation to check her AW Inbox every Friday. She's a lass I saw about 4 years ago - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=122293.0 - and I thought she'd be an excellent re-introduction to punting.

I sent my first request to her about 10 days ago and she ignored it. So I sent another one just before the weekend and, on the NW Discussion Board yesterday, mentioned the fact that she's apparently not opened my second request.

At the end of the day, they're the Service Providers and if they don't want to provide a service to any one of us, then I guess we've all got to accept that, no matter how unpalatable it may be to our egos.

I suspect that this SP is a part timer/semi professional.

Only looks at AW messages from time to time, or just before she has a window to fit in a few meetings with some chaps, probably at a weekend.

Being a professional cynic (although my heart is not in it) I suspect she replies and arranges meetings with  those who are going to give her maximum dosh with minimum shagging!!

If you do meet her then please let us have a review.

Regards,

davidgood

[Billy no mates]

Unfortunately without a link can’t help.

Either a cam girl, or a bullshit thread. That’s my guess.

[HarryZZ]

A couple of things jump out at me, after blocking you why go to the trouble of setting up another account? Something you said made he realise she didn't want to hear from you again, let alone see you, were you bombarding her with messages? Creating a second account to contact further after you were blocked her proved (in her mind at the very least) that she was right.

Secondly, why not name her? What have you got to lose there? She's definitely not going to see you, I had a similar booked meeting followed by radio silence and posted the details on here, she was lurking or at least was prompted by a friend, and replied denying what had happened, I couldn't prove it but at least I gave a full account, I don't have anything to lose, information we share here is for others to view and take into account, not for the benefit of SPs, otherwise we end up like UKE with all the fluffy, arse kissing that goes on their.

You've not done yourself any favours, with the limited information you've given anybody might assume that you are some sort of nutter with either the number or the content of your messages,  or you made the whole thing up, that's not necessarily the case though, show the messages and name the girl and let people make their own minds up.

[DipsyDoodle]

Sounds very dodgy to me ? Also i'm quite sure AW can link accounts by the ip address ?

I can confirm this.  AW links accounts by IP address.  If two different AW profiles login from the same device, then the accounts are automatically linked.  The link disappears after 90 days provided there are no further logins from both accounts.

[Waterhouse]

I can confirm this.  AW links accounts by IP address.  If two different AW profiles login from the same device, then the accounts are automatically linked.  The link disappears after 90 days provided there are no further logins from both accounts.

How does this show up though when someone is reading an AW message from someone who has two AW accounts? How would the SP in this case see that the OP has two accounts? I rarely use AW except to browse profiles without being logged in, and only log in to add to my HL when a profile tickles my fancy, so don’t know much about the inner workings.

[Fuzzyduck]

I've never been blocked on AW and can't recollect ever a seeing a deleted message, so if a SP suddenly blocks me out for no apparent reason, I'd want to understand why: if it was something I did or if she was blitzing her inbox for whatever reason. That said, setting up a 2nd account does sound a little obsessive. I would also consider that booking requests from 0 rated day-old new members are unlikely to be successful in any scenario. If she hasn't already shared her number (most seem happy to after a few email exchanges) then I would conclude something is up at her end that I probably don't want to be part of.

The reluctance to share her link suggests OP wants to continue the pursuit. Umm.

[Home Alone]

I've never been blocked on AW and can't recollect ever a seeing a deleted message, so if a SP suddenly blocks me out for no apparent reason, I'd want to understand why: if it was something I did or if she was blitzing her inbox for whatever reason. That said, setting up a 2nd account does sound totally fucking weird. I would also consider that booking requests from 0 rated day-old new members are unlikely to be successful in any scenario. If she hasn't already shared her number (most seem happy to after a few email exchanges) then I would conclude something is up at her end that I probably don't want to be part of.

The reluctance to share her link suggests OP wants to continue the pursuit. Umm.

Any sane punter could only agree with your final word, Fuzzy. I hope you don't mind my, erm, slight amendment in the third line of your post. It may be a little more blunt than you would have chosen to say; if so, I apologise.

[Punterperson1971]

I’ve had messages come up in my sent folder they’ve read them and deleted them,so what!! Their loss money wise move on to next one or find a decent regular,I wouldn’t waste my time chasing them if they not interested especially going as far as setting up another AW account,next it will be using different phone numbers then he will appear on that thread on their site about “dangerous punters”

[Fuzzyduck]

Any sane punter could only agree with your final word, Fuzzy. I hope you don't mind my, erm, slight amendment in the third line of your post. It may be a little more blunt than you would have chosen to say; if so, I apologise.

 

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with choice of words to emphasise your point, HA, but I wouldn't call it weird. An ex of mine was stalked for a while and, having seen that level of obsession up close, you appreciate that some people are wired very differently.

[Fugly]

How does this show up though when someone is reading an AW message from someone who has two AW accounts? How would the SP in this case see that the OP has two accounts? I rarely use AW except to browse profiles without being logged in, and only log in to add to my HL when a profile tickles my fancy, so don’t know much about the inner workings.

If you're an SP on AW you get a different dashboard to punters. When an SP gets a message or request they generally check your profile and if you're duplicating, it will show up and will continue to show up until the second account has been inactive for three months.
 
KimCindy showed me once because she'd spotted that I'd set up a second account (I did this because of a torrent of annoying and intrusive msgs from alicia345 to my original a/c).  KC warned me that it would affect my dealings on AW and she was right.  I was pretty much scuppered for the next three months until my AW "punishment period" was over.  The account duplication was ID'd via identical IP addresses.  I'm sure those who use VPNs could probs find a way around it. 

Ever since I've stuck to the tried and trusted single account approach - it took me a while to re-build my feedbacks tho'

[DipsyDoodle]

I can confirm this.  AW links accounts by IP address.  If two different AW profiles login from the same device, then the accounts are automatically linked.  The link disappears after 90 days provided there are no further logins from both accounts.

When you send an SP a message, when they open it, at the top it will say "account linked to ...".  I only know because a WG was kind enough to send me the screenshot to alert me that my account had been linked.

This is one of the checks many WG's do when evaluating new requests.

[RandomGuy99]

Not odd behaviour at all. It sounds like she is pretty wise.

TheSP clearly has a well defined view of what behaviour she likes to see from punters no doubt so as to avoid drama.  You failed to meet the grade.  Plenty more fish in the sea.

It's pretty bad behaviour for a punter to be creating multiple profiles in order to try to trick an SP into seeing them.  Just have one and behave yourself and you'll be ok.

[Home Alone]

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with choice of words to emphasise your point, HA, but I wouldn't call it weird. An ex of mine was stalked for a while and, having seen that level of obsession up close, you appreciate that some people are wired very differently.

Thanks, Fuzzy. Enjoyed your - unintended? - play on words that people seen as weird are 'wired differently'!

[PLeisure]

OP is lame... and creepy af 

I've had a number of encounters (I've reviewed one other here, but as a comment on an existing review, so it doesn't show as "my" review) without issue.

That is not a review, and you know that. Don't attempt to categorise it as a review.

Only the two - and the second was only set up to try and have a second shot at setting up a meeting with this lady.

Ugh... so slimy

OP, are you really confused about this? Or disappointed by the responses this thread has generated?
You've employed reductionist rhetoric to downplay the amount of AW profiles you have. [fyi - only one allowed on UKP] 
You've made a poor attempt to bulk up your singular review by describing a comment on someone else's review as another of yours. Seriously? 
The more this WG tries to evade you, the more you chase her.    Now potentially outing your UKP identity to her, if she reads this thread. She may distribute your contact details to alert others - is that the effect you're after? 

Take a step back, clean the mirror and have a good look at yourself. 

[Fuzzyduck]

Thanks, Fuzzy. Enjoyed your - unintended? - play on words that people seen as weird are 'wired differently'!

To me, weird means odd, or alien, potentially creepy. Obsessive = potentially dangerous in this context.

You connected weird and wired? Now that is weird.

[Home Alone]

I've always liked playing with words! [Not sure if I can find an appropriate emoji for that!]

[Fuzzyduck]

I've always liked playing with words! [Not sure if I can find an appropriate emoji for that!]

I like someone playing with my sword. Boom boom

[Home Alone]

You and me both, pal!

Especially if she's got big natural knockers to act as a scabbard, so to speak!

[CatBBW]

Due to COVID she wasn't working till early September. I pinged her a message a few weeks before she was due to be back in the saddle, and we exchanged a few messages to set something up. Then she suddenly stops replying

Exchanging a "few messages" to set up a meeting "a few weeks" in advance of her return can be seen as time wasting or a non-intention to book while gaining wank fodder. Obviously I don't know what went on in your own messages, but if a guy strings out his required details over a few messages when it could have been asked in one or two (maybe three if something needs clarifying) then it becomes pretty clear that no booking is going to happen. I have had LOADS over the lockdown period (ignoring the idiots who told me they don't have covid and I should give them a chance) where they've asked if I can do a booking "when you're back" (like I'm having a holiday or something) so I replied yes I will let you know when that is, then they came back with "can we do X Y and Z?" and I replied yes/no/etc. Then they messaged again "actually I'd like A B and C too" and I replied yes/no/etc. Then another message "hope you're keeping safe" to which I replied "yes thanks" etc. Then  after all that "so where are you based" etc. So time to ignore. A few days later, from the same guy... "do you know when you'll be back?" ... And guess what?? NONE of them materilised as a booking after lockdown.

So yeah, if the email exchange was anything like the above, I am not surprised she blocked. If the OP would like to share his messages then light will be shed.

So I have a different profile which I use to make an initial enquiry. She replies pretty much immediately - we set up a meet for last Thursday, and all looks good until the morning of the meet when she says that she can't make it as her child's got to stay home from nursery. No problem, I say, perhaps we can reschedule for same time next week. Yep, all good, she says, touch base on the day before (today) to confirm.
I message today to confirm - it's read, then deleted by her without reply - she deletes all the previous messages too. Odd, I think. I give it a few hours, and then just send a quick one liner to check everything's alright for tomorrow and sure enough, it's deleted immediately.

As everyone else has said: she's blocked you again because AW linked your profiles and she realised who you were.

I don't think any of this is "very odd behaviour" on the lady's part. Her boundaries were crossed (for whatever reason) and she blocked you. Will retract if the messages show the opposite.

[Waterhouse]

If you're an SP on AW you get a different dashboard to punters. When an SP gets a message or request they generally check your profile and if you're duplicating, it will show up and will continue to show up until the second account has been inactive for three months.
 
KimCindy showed me once because she'd spotted that I'd set up a second account (I did this because of a torrent of annoying and intrusive msgs from alicia345 to my original a/c).  KC warned me that it would affect my dealings on AW and she was right.  I was pretty much scuppered for the next three months until my AW "punishment period" was over.  The account duplication was ID'd via identical IP addresses.  I'm sure those who use VPNs could probs find a way around it. 

Ever since I've stuck to the tried and trusted single account approach - it took me a while to re-build my feedbacks tho'

Thanks for the insight - I've never seen what AW looks like from an SP’s perspective so had no idea. I usually only use it to browse and store a hotlist.  Typically, if the SP’s number is showing, then I’ll call or text them directly.

[Home Alone]

As everyone else has said: she's blocked you again because AW linked your profiles and she realised who you were.

I don't think any of this is "very odd behaviour" on the lady's part. Her boundaries were crossed (for whatever reason) and she blocked you. Will retract if the messages show the opposite.

Cue the rest of this Board NOT holding its collective breath till that happens!

[cotton]

Id say if the OP had 1 or 2 confirmed bookings and the SP let him down then he has a good reason to feel pissed off and a bonafide reason to leave a review for the SP.  However the OP is equivocal about this stating they "exchanged a few messages to set something up. Then she suddenly stops replying". So the likelyhood is more that nothing concrete was arranged and she just blew him out for her own reqasons which shes kinda entitled to do so.
Still OP should provide a link , otherwise it looks like hes still invested in pusueing her for the long haul which is kinda silly. Should just wash his hands clean and publish her link , no harm in that.

[joninbristol]

Mate (randomuser107), just accept that it's you who's exhibiting the strange behaviour, not the woman you're chasing.

Firstly, your refusal to post the profile name of the woman in question is highly suspicious in itself. It instantly makes any reader who didn't come down in the last shower think that you're trying to hide her identity so that she can't comment on your behaviour. That in itself is a) manipulating behaviour and b) controlling behaviour. You want to control and deny her right to present her side of the story. You only want us to see YOUR side of the story so that you can get us to side with you. Well, that's not going to happen. Please do not insult us by underestimating our individual or collective intelligence.

Secondly: If you took your self reported behaviour out of the context of AW and into the "real" world and she didn't respond, but you persisted, and she still didn't respond, then pretended to be someone else in order to get close to her, well you'd be on the end of a police investigation for stalking, which is now a criminal offence.

I'd just look at yourself rather than criticising a woman who has plainly chose to have nothing to do with you.
Her reasons are equally valid as yours, accept that. Man up.
If she says NO, you as a bloke must accept that no means no.
The reason is none of your business. Accept that too.
You have precisely zero right to control her.

Several respondents on this thread have told you you're behaviour is, quote, "creepy" and "stalkerish". I thought exactly the same. Immediately. You're waving a big red flag about your behaviour and attitude towards women.
Tip: When other men tell you that, you should be sitting up and taking notice, big time.

But if you're still in any doubt about the seriousness of *your* behaviour, I'd suggest you read the following:

External Link/Members Only

You can easily be placed on an SPO - Stalker Prevention Order - and end up in court very swiftly now if you ignore it. This kind of obsessive behaviour can lead to rape, false imprisonment and murders, which is precisely why the legislation was brought in.

[joninbristol]

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[Squire Haggard]

OK, so...long story, but here goes.

A working lady appeared on the AW radar not far from me a while back. Due to COVID she wasn't working till early September. I pinged her a message a few weeks before she was due to be back in the saddle, and we exchanged a few messages to set something up. Then she suddenly stops replying - I check here, and using the "deleted immediately after sent" method, figured she'd blocked me. No idea why - our messages were straight back and forths setting up an appointment.

So I have a different profile which I use to make an initial enquiry. She replies pretty much immediately - we set up a meet for last Thursday, and all looks good until the morning of the meet when she says that she can't make it as her child's got to stay home from nursery. No problem, I say, perhaps we can reschedule for same time next week. Yep, all good, she says, touch base on the day before (today) to confirm.

I message today to confirm - it's read, then deleted by her without reply - she deletes all the previous messages too. Odd, I think. I give it a few hours, and then just send a quick one liner to check everything's alright for tomorrow and sure enough, it's deleted immediately.

I know there's no way of knowing why she's doing it. She has little feedback (4 or 5, all positive), but seems genuine. Any thoughts?

She sounds like a typical pig ignorant skank who delights in treating others like dirt because it makes her feel better, and you should name and shame her.

Is this her?

[joninbristol]

She sounds like a typical pig ignorant skank who delights in treating others like dirt because it makes her feel better, and you should name and shame her.

Is this her?
External Link/Members Only

Whilst I agree he should name the SP to give her a right to reply to his accusations, you are acusing her of behaving badly without any evidence other than that *alleged* by the person witholding her identity.
But ignore the behaviour of the man who's very evidently causing the problem, as recounted by his reporting of his own behaviour.
Hmmmm.
Do you have the slightest clue how many messages per day many SPs get? No.
Well, it's hundreds. Sometimes thousands.
And you've not posted a single review to contribute to the site either.
Then you post a video about animal abuse, which is irrelevant.

[Squire Haggard]

Whilst I agree he should name the SP to give her a right to reply to his accusations, you are acusing her of behaving badly without any evidence other than that *alleged* by the person witholding her identity.

Correct, assuming the OPs post is true, then she is behaving badly. Having a lot of messages is no excuse.

The story of her behaviour reminds me of the attitude of the woman in the video.

I've no reviews because I've had no punts recently, due to a slight medical problem, which puts me off from having a punt. Hopefully this will change in future.

[joninbristol]

  

[daviemac]

Correct, assuming the OPs post is true, then she is behaving badly. Having a lot of messages is no excuse.

The story of her behaviour reminds me of the attitude of the woman in the video.

I've no reviews because I've had no punts recently, due to a slight medical problem, which puts me off from having a punt. Hopefully this will change in future.

The fact is only the OP and the escort involved know what went on, the Op has an alias on AW and that is a big red flag to loads of them. The OP's refusal to post a link makes this thread totally pointless and impossible to make a judgement on. Yet you, in your wisdom, have decided it's all one sided.

The video you posted has no relevance at all the the topic of this thread so it has been removed.

[king tarzan]

such a simpletto solution????  MOVE ON........................................

[RandomGuy99]

such a simpletto solution????  MOVE ON........................................

+1

A whole load of unnecessary BS at a time when everyone is already under a load of stress due to the current COVID19 situation.  No naming of the SP is necessary.

[daviemac]

+1

A whole load of unnecessary BS at a time when everyone is already under a load of stress due to the current COVID19 situation.  No naming of the SP is necessary.

Yes it is, without a name this thread is pointless, how does it help other punters.     She may have done it in the past or it may be a thing other punters need to be aware of.

If he does not name her he just comes across as an attention seeking bullshitter.