Any decent hookup sites for civvies that aren’t a complete scam?

[Ali Katt]

I miss the days of 99% of people going out to get laid in clubs and bars. They're never coming back. 

I think dating apps would have been an absolute goldmine for me if they existed when I was in my early 20s. I did the whole on the pull thing and I can count the number of successes on one hand. It was fun some of the time, especially at a time when pints were relatively cheap, the music was better and it was way before they put up posters in the bogs about sexual harassment.

[sparkus]

I just don't bother these days, neither do friends of the same age.  Younger women are rightly hooking up with men the same age, you get occasionals with the whole daddy issues thing.

A lot of women in their 40s on there are divorced and looking for either long term recommitment or just to waste your time as a dinner partner.

Holidays can be fruitful, especially if you're with likeminded friends and meet another group of friends.

[Ali Katt]

I just don't bother these days, neither do friends of the same age.  Younger women are rightly hooking up with men the same age, you get occasionals with the whole daddy issues thing.

A lot of women in their 40s on there are divorced and looking for either long term recommitment or just to waste your time as a dinner partner.

Holidays can be fruitful, especially if you're with likeminded friends and meet another group of friends.

I think when a relationship works it can be the best thing in the world. I personally can't speak for young women in their 20s, I tend to date within 5 years of my actual age, but some of the self entitlement and bitterness of middle aged women is staggering.

[sparkus]

I think when a relationship works it can be the best thing in the world. I personally can't speak for young women in their 20s, I tend to date within 5 years of my actual age, but some of the self entitlement and bitterness of middle aged women is staggering.

You've nailed it there.  Though some are resigned to being unattached and therefore up for fun.  The problem is they've inundated with offers for it, even a minger who signals she's down to fuck will get a bazllion contacts.

The thing that has amused me for a while now is that desperate marketing has long relied on using passably attractive women with decent chests in Facebook ads but below them are a steady stream of idiots asking them out in comments! Many of these men have all their bio details showing and OHs.

[Ali Katt]

You've nailed it there.  Though some are resigned to being unattached and therefore up for fun.  The problem is they've inundated with offers for it, even a minger who signals she's down to fuck will get a bazllion contacts.

The thing that has amused me for a while now is that desperate marketing has long relied on using passably attractive women with decent chests in Facebook ads but below them are a steady stream of idiots asking them out in comments! Many of these men have all their bio details showing and OHs.

I can't remember the exact probably made up statistic something like "10% of men are getting 90% of the women".

I've said it before and it's common knowledge, but the mingers are inflated by non-exsistent or impractical men i.e. African princes who are scammers, catfish, men who are legitimate but live 100s of miles away or in another country, bots, ghosts,  those that match and never reply,married men who don't mention it.

Men has to put up with similar nonsense and trans pretending to be women and 1% of the matches women get. That said every time a man has sex with a woman he beats the odds.

[sparkus]

I can't remember the exact probably made up statistic something like "10% of men are getting 90% of the women".

I've said it before and it's common knowledge, but the mingers are inflated by non-exsistent or impractical men i.e. African princes who are scammers, catfish, men who are legitimate but live 100s of miles away or in another country, bots, ghosts,  those that match and never reply,married men who don't mention it.

Men has to put up with similar nonsense and trans pretending to be women and 1% of the matches women get. That said every time a man has sex with a woman he beats the odds.

I also think a lot of the "It's not worth it" and "Only 'chads' ever get laid on apps' guff is just incel propaganda (which is amusing as if you ever say that IRL to people saying it they get very defensive e.g. "Define an incel!"")

I've met several women who've said they actively swerve good looking men because they're likely to be conceited cunts (again, if you say that offline some bliokes say it's just expectation management by mingers or they're 'lying' etc)

TBH the people I listen to least about online dating are other men.  If you're angry about women and constantly questioning their motives then you probably won't get much in the way of action to begin with.

(I've seen it go both ways for men's looks in the pre-internet pulling stakes, men who either get little because most women think they're too good looking for them or men who react against excessive attention by women)

[Ali Katt]

I also think a lot of the "It's not worth it" and "Only 'chads' ever get laid on apps' guff is just incel propaganda (which is amusing as if you ever say that IRL to people saying it they get very defensive e.g. "Define an incel!"")

I've met several women who've said they actively swerve good looking men because they're likely to be conceited cunts (again, if you say that offline some bliokes say it's just expectation management by mingers or they're 'lying' etc)

TBH the people I listen to least about online dating are other men.  If you're angry about women and constantly questioning their motives then you probably won't get much in the way of action to begin with.

(I've seen it go both ways for men's looks in the pre-internet pulling stakes, men who either get little because most women think they're too good looking for them or men who react against excessive attention by women)

I agree. A large part of it is a waste of time, but at the same time it is a numbers game the more women you date, talk to, match with etc the higher chance of sex or a relationship.

I think now people presume a lot of good looking people are AI.

[DouglasReynholm]

I've met several women who've said they actively swerve good looking men because they're likely to be conceited cunts

So that was my problem!

I agree. A large part of it is a waste of time, but at the same time it is a numbers game the more women you date, talk to, match with etc the higher chance of sex or a relationship.
I think now people presume a lot of good looking people are AI.

I'm AI too? Then I can have cyber-sex with AI women who look stunning anytime I want!

A beautiful woman is a fact, a handsome man is an opinion. No man's turning down Scarlett Johanssen or Margot Robbie but lots of women would turn down Ryan Gosling or Chris Hemsworth. Women's tastes are more individualistic and obviously they care about more than looks, although looks matter a lot.

Crossing a room to talk to a woman you've never met will make some women think you're arrogant: the ones who aren't brave enough to cross a room to a man they've never met. I.e. most of them.

And I won't type any more because I sound like

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[southcoastpunter]

just thought i would share the fact that in this last week I have had a number of "matches" with women in their 20's on Bumble. (my Bumble profile says i am 57)

I've had a Bumble account for about 3 years and been on and off it as the mood takes me - had a few meets (only a few) and a couple did lead to over nights but never really had any interest from 20's ladies before. something seems to have changed.

Not led to hook ups or even meetings yet but figures crossed!

[sparkus]

just thought i would share the fact that in this last week I have had a number of "matches" with women in their 20's on Bumble. (my Bumble profile says i am 57)

I've had a Bumble account for about 3 years and been on and off it as the mood takes me - had a few meets (only a few) and a couple did lead to over nights but never really had any interest from 20's ladies before. something seems to have changed.

Not led to hook ups or even meetings yet but figures crossed!

Could be daddy issues, broadmindedness or expectation of a sugar daddy arrangement...

[bigden40]

Could be daddy issues, broadmindedness or expectation of a sugar daddy arrangement...

Or just looking for a better dating experience

[sparkus]

Or just looking for a better dating experience

Several younger women have said I'm quite rigid and narrow minded on age gaps, I guess from upbringing.
One I saw said her deceased ex husband was 30 years her senior and better in bed than those she'd seen of her age.  She wasn't impressed when I asked if the heart attack was from fucking (she had quite an appetite).

[Mr Sinister]

Thought I'd give this a resurrection for 2025

End of last year had a few links but they all just fizzled out, just that time of the year I guess.

New year update -

Things were slow, but started to pick up

So the woman from Pret, yeah I finally got her number but just as I thought could progress things she started acting weird and backed out, things went quiet and I avoided the shop, she reached out told me her insecurities and worried I only wanted a quick bang. Well sure I do in a roundabout way I responded, we're now meeting up next week as she wants to see me, told me she misses me coming to the shop(get free coffee and food now  )

Working through an assortment of women on feeld since it got crazy I guess they're coming out cuffing season, 2 in my sights that I want to meet up with. Had one French woman I banged last year, she's back after a long period in Paris and wants to meet up again.

Wooplus - The place of chebbage and fat asses

Got speaking to a bored single mom of 2, lives quite a way out, she's been sending me all sorts of spicy pics of her chebs, wanna meet up but the distance is a killer, the planning, expence etc not sure if it's worth it.

Speaking to 2 others, 1 is 28, humongous and I mean humongous chebs probably M size, been chatting but this one is rather cagey so playing it safe.

Then the other is EE, fattt batty, both live just outside London but come in for work so just trying to arrange a meet with both in the coming weeks

[The0neAnd0nly]

Similar to my current predicament. Plenty of matches and conversation but very low conversion to actual dates or sex. Having to go through my back log of girls from 2024 some of whom I pissed off 

Lots of girls wanting attention but not following through it feels like at the moment. Went on a first date last night but feel like it might be more effort then it's worth for a fuck

[Mr Sinister]

Mini update -

So woman from Pret we met up but not sure will go ahead, it's complicated, she's just had her 'heart broken', she's EE half Tunisian nice body, has teenagers too.

Bored single mom nipped it in the bud, she's too far away and wanted commitment, face time calls and all that before meeting, it's too much work, she wasn't happy about that.

Last weekend I had one EE cancel on me due to her bad time management but ended up with an impromptu meet with a Polish bird from woo quite late. Was quite hesitant about this one as no full body pics but when she turned up at the pub off came the big puffer jacket to be met by a large round batty, I was like woah she got some crazy proportions, meeting again this weekend will get down and dirty as she was all over me at the end of the night last weekend.

Got another young tall amazonian with curves that I'm going to meet on Monday from Feeld.

[Ali Katt]

Similar to my current predicament. Plenty of matches and conversation but very low conversion to actual dates or sex. Having to go through my back log of girls from 2024 some of whom I pissed off 

Lots of girls wanting attention but not following through it feels like at the moment. Went on a first date last night but feel like it might be more effort then it's worth for a fuck

I think the weather is a huge factor - it's shit and nobody wants to go out in the cold, will start picking up in March.

[The0neAnd0nly]

I think the weather is a huge factor - it's shit and nobody wants to go out in the cold, will start picking up in March.

Yeah valid point. It's like the opposite of cuffing season it's post Christmas now so they're hibernating indoors waiting for guys to take them out when warmer lol

Still getting plenty of matches and convos with Nigerian girls mostly. Some are UK based but have 0 conversation skills. Some have UK places set but are clearly abroad.

UK African girls always take pictures with white people in the background or in front of UK car number plates so can quickly unmatch the rest 😅 They must be aware huge numbers of scammers or girls abroad so know their USP if actually here lol

[sparkus]

Yeah valid point. It's like the opposite of cuffing season it's post Christmas now so they're hibernating indoors waiting for guys to take them out when warmer lol

Still getting plenty of matches and convos with Nigerian girls mostly. Some are UK based but have 0 conversation skills. Some have UK places set but are clearly abroad.

UK African girls always take pictures with white people in the background or in front of UK car number plates so can quickly unmatch the rest 😅 They must be aware huge numbers of scammers or girls abroad so know their USP if actually here lol

I was recently in a far-flung northern town for work and walking around its run down town centre with colleagues bar to bar. The only women I really saw in numbers were groups of Africans, assumedly students at the third rate local uni or care home workers. Was ruing not having Tinder on my phone anymore 

[The0neAnd0nly]

I was recently in a far-flung northern town for work and walking around its run down town centre with colleagues bar to bar. The only women I really saw in numbers were groups of Africans, assumedly students at the third rate local uni or care home workers. Was ruing not having Tinder on my phone anymore 

Yup think 48 of the 50 or so African girls I've spoken to have been care home workers. Don't want to generalise but it's my experience in all honesty!

[sparkus]

Yup think 48 of the 50 or so African girls I've spoken to have been care home workers. Don't want to generalise but it's my experience in all honesty!

There was about 15 seated at a long table and they asked for hush for a birthday candles blow out. My colleague (female) got talking to one of them in the toilet and she said they were all working in the same care home chain and came from Ghana.

I had a thing with an African woman of around 50 (so she told me) a while back I met under quite weirdly random civvy circumstances. Fuck all up top but taut and skilled.

[PepeMAGA]

Mini update -

So woman from Pret we met up but not sure will go ahead, it's complicated, she's just had her 'heart broken', she's EE half Tunisian nice body, has teenagers too.

Bored single mom nipped it in the bud, she's too far away and wanted commitment, face time calls and all that before meeting, it's too much work, she wasn't happy about that.

Last weekend I had one EE cancel on me due to her bad time management but ended up with an impromptu meet with a Polish bird from woo quite late. Was quite hesitant about this one as no full body pics but when she turned up at the pub off came the big puffer jacket to be met by a large round batty, I was like woah she got some crazy proportions, meeting again this weekend will get down and dirty as she was all over me at the end of the night last weekend.

Got another young tall amazonian with curves that I'm going to meet on Monday from Feeld.

Can't see Pret as a dating app, is that an abbreviation?

[cunningman]

Can't see Pret as a dating app, is that an abbreviation?

You need to read hist prior posts for context.

[sparkus]

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[PepeMAGA]

You need to read hist prior posts for context.

Thanks

[sparkus]

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[Mr Sinister]

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The reason why there is no men at these events is because they're largely a shit show. Just as it's been seen with online dating happens in reality that most women there will chase the 1 top guy in the event and ignore the rest.

If there's 2-3 top guys then they'll move towards the most attractive woman there and try hog her presence. Unfortunately certain guys will be aged out seemingly they're aimed at people 35 and under.

There's videos of singles events in the US with tons of women but no men, unfortunately dating in the western Anglosphere has really had a number done on it through the advancement of technology and messages put out there which has alienated men and women interacting with eachother in person.

Overall need to stop trying to commodify and gamify dating with these events. Need to start pushing men and women to interact with eachother naturally like in joining mixed sports and hobby clubs.

Mini update -

Unfortunately due to a family matter I've had to put dating on the backburner to free up my time. Only exceptions for those I fuck on and off casually. I'll get back out there closer to the summer, hopefully less flakey women by then too.

[The0neAnd0nly]

Good season for dating and matching at moment. Even a uglier fucker like me is getting plenty of dates and trying to move these onto second dates and fucks

Maybe something in the water or I'm just lucky but best time for getting matches and meetings in last 6 months at least!

[Ali Katt]

The reason why there is no men at these events is because they're largely a shit show. Just as it's been seen with online dating happens in reality that most women there will chase the 1 top guy in the event and ignore the rest.

If there's 2-3 top guys then they'll move towards the most attractive woman there and try hog her presence. Unfortunately certain guys will be aged out seemingly they're aimed at people 35 and under.

There's videos of singles events in the US with tons of women but no men, unfortunately dating in the western Anglosphere has really had a number done on it through the advancement of technology and messages put out there which has alienated men and women interacting with eachother in person.

Overall need to stop trying to commodify and gamify dating with these events. Need to start pushing men and women to interact with eachother naturally like in joining mixed sports and hobby clubs.

Mini update -

Unfortunately due to a family matter I've had to put dating on the backburner to free up my time. Only exceptions for those I fuck on and off casually. I'll get back out there closer to the summer, hopefully less flakey women by then too.

I agree with all of this. I'm not in London so can't comment on these places or events. I will add that men feel fleeced by apps, more so than women add into that men often outnumber women on most apps, making the market even more competitive or unfair. With the events women might go along out of curiosity or socialising (with other women); I think men in some ways are more risk averse. My thinking would be "pay £30 for a one off dinner dating event with very little in the way of guaranteed return" - arguably paying for premium on a dating app for a month would be money better spent.

I do agree with you on alienation. It's pretty normal to see sexual harassment posters in clubs these days. You also have young people pursuing hobbies which are considered "anti-social" like watching long Netflix boxsets or worryingly watching lifestyle coaching videos that are misogynistic, racist and dehumanising; which has advantages as it takes some men out of the market. Not going to get into politics, but I think covid isolated a lot of people and they are struggling to readjust especially if they had little experience of going out before.

[Ali Katt]

Good season for dating and matching at moment. Even a uglier fucker like me is getting plenty of dates and trying to move these onto second dates and fucks

Maybe something in the water or I'm just lucky but best time for getting matches and meetings in last 6 months at least!

I think as well as the weather getting better, plus there's been a lot of break ups since Christmas. I've been meaning to get back into it.

[sparkus]

I agree with all of this. I'm not in London so can't comment on these places or events. I will add that men feel fleeced by apps, more so than women add into that men often outnumber women on most apps, making the market even more competitive or unfair. With the events women might go along out of curiosity or socialising (with other women); I think men in some ways are more risk averse. My thinking would be "pay £30 for a one off dinner dating event with very little in the way of guaranteed return" - arguably paying for premium on a dating app for a month would be money better spent.

I do agree with you on alienation. It's pretty normal to see sexual harassment posters in clubs these days. You also have young people pursuing hobbies which are considered "anti-social" like watching long Netflix boxsets or worryingly watching lifestyle coaching videos that are misogynistic, racist and dehumanising; which has advantages as it takes some men out of the market. Not going to get into politics, but I think covid isolated a lot of people and they are struggling to readjust especially if they had little experience of going out before.

A friend lives on the edge of London.  He's ditched apps, tried post-50 dating sites ("Full of bots") and even tried desperate things like going out on the pull in small towns nearby.(or told women he's WFH out late on a Friday with his laptop).

The singles meets he's been to outside of London have been nearly all female apart from him and over 50s Karens (or Dawn and Cindy).  You'd think that would be happy hunting but all it means is the women buddy up and friendzone the guy.

Inside London it's still 70 per cent female but much younger and professional.  Not much action for a bloke over 50 who thinks GB News is something to talk about with burds 

Given the rate of couples who split after the kids move out, I wonder if we're heading into an era where many in their 50s/60s/70s become unattached and very lonely until they die.  Add in pensioner poverty and homelessness.

[Keema]

Taking my first lurch into Bumble, never used a dating app b4 and haven't 'dated' since the late 80s.

One of my problems, which who knows how I'll deal with it is that apart from my late wife, I've only actually fucked two women over the age of 35.

[JontyR]

Taking my first lurch into Bumble, never used a dating app b4 and haven't 'dated' since the late 80s.

One of my problems, which who knows how I'll deal with it is that apart from my late wife, I've only actually fucked two women over the age of 35.

Don't worry about it.

Enjoy the initial rush you get from an app. Don;t know where you are based but "fresh meat" tends to get the most attention. But don't presume it will stay like that for the length of your stay. App, enjoy, move on.

Don't chase matches by over-liking. You will find you have over-enthusiastically swiped right on women you will actually think you don't want to spend time with.

Good luck.

[southcoastpunter]

On the central south coast, I have found Bumble to be a waste of time! ( might just be me though)

[advent2016]

People I know report Hinge is quite good, but also quite expensive. People use special code to share pinkpics
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[Ali Katt]

On the central south coast, I have found Bumble to be a waste of time! ( might just be me though)

The same experience for me. Limited matches with women I largely didn't fancy. I can imagine if you had a lot of time to invest it could be good.

[Ali Katt]

A friend lives on the edge of London.  He's ditched apps, tried post-50 dating sites ("Full of bots") and even tried desperate things like going out on the pull in small towns nearby.(or told women he's WFH out late on a Friday with his laptop).

The singles meets he's been to outside of London have been nearly all female apart from him and over 50s Karens (or Dawn and Cindy).  You'd think that would be happy hunting but all it means is the women buddy up and friendzone the guy.

Inside London it's still 70 per cent female but much younger and professional.  Not much action for a bloke over 50 who thinks GB News is something to talk about with burds 

Given the rate of couples who split after the kids move out, I wonder if we're heading into an era where many in their 50s/60s/70s become unattached and very lonely until they die.  Add in pensioner poverty and homelessness.

I think going on the pull, even when I was in my 20s was largely a waste of time - the number of times it actually resulted in anything resembling sex where very small given the amount of effort I put in, but it was exciting.

With regards the latter there is a difference between being lonely and being alone. I think if was in my late 60s I wouldn't bother pursuing a committed relationship; 50s is one where there is time and potential to start over. I'm late 30s, but my issue is like a lot of men in my head I still feel 27 even if my body says otherwise and to be honest most women in the sort of 35-45 age bracket are often unattractive single mothers, Karens who possibly hate men or absolute bores. At least with women in their 20s they often look their best and you can make allowances for the bratty behaviour. I don't know what has happened; I know there are genuinely great women out there in my age bracket, but there seems to be a prevalence of women with severe issues.

[Keema]

After just a few days Bumble has recommended a wee cracker with huge boobs, there's an age difference but hey she wants to go on city breaks. She's also a lap-dancer and has an OF page.

I swiped right, if I'm not back in three days...

[sparkus]

I think going on the pull, even when I was in my 20s was largely a waste of time - the number of times it actually resulted in anything resembling sex where very small given the amount of effort I put in, but it was exciting.

With regards the latter there is a difference between being lonely and being alone. I think if was in my late 60s I wouldn't bother pursuing a committed relationship; 50s is one where there is time and potential to start over. I'm late 30s, but my issue is like a lot of men in my head I still feel 27 even if my body says otherwise and to be honest most women in the sort of 35-45 age bracket are often unattractive single mothers, Karens who possibly hate men or absolute bores. At least with women in their 20s they often look their best and you can make allowances for the bratty behaviour. I don't know what has happened; I know there are genuinely great women out there in my age bracket, but there seems to be a prevalence of women with severe issues.

I thought you were older than late 30s from your cultural references.

I remember reading that in the era before the liberated sixties and the free for all seventies, the reality for most was a weekly dance with a peck on the cheek if you were lucky and unprotected sex up against a wall behind the venue for a chosen few. In terms of my own friendship group growing up there was that chosen few but occasionally you'd just luck out, I don't know why or how. I was always quite wily and also able to spot opportunities.

I can honestly say looking back that work and random encounters aided my sex life far more than any aspect of nightlife could, though for a couple of years nightlife was work. As I say, it's purely down to spotting opportunities and not blinking in terms of taking them.

[PumpDump]

but there seems to be a prevalence of women with severe issues.

It's always been like that, women are nutty.

[Keema]

I thought I was wise enough to spot romance scams, but all those beautiful 30 year old Nigerian hotties are coming on to me faster than the dancers at a sadly-missed East London Strip Pub.

[Ali Katt]

I thought I was wise enough to spot romance scams, but all those beautiful 30 year old Nigerian hotties are coming on to me faster than the dancers at a sadly-missed East London Strip Pub.

I tend to avoid those profiles and I am suspicious of some of the Chinese profiles. I think someone on here said the Chinese girls are after free English lessons, don't know if that is true, but from what I have seen Chinese communities seem tight knit.

[advent2016]

I tend to avoid those profiles and I am suspicious of some of the Chinese profiles. I think someone on here said the Chinese girls are after free English lessons, don't know if that is true, but from what I have seen Chinese communities seem tight knit.

A friend became a TEFL teacher mostly to meet women to shag who wanted to learn English. I've given English language help to Fillipino and Chinese nurses I met at work and some were happy to suck my cock in exchange. Some foreign students seem to think it natural / expected that their teacher (professor) will want to have sex with them.

[jaydefo24]

After just a few days Bumble has recommended a wee cracker with huge boobs, there's an age difference but hey she wants to go on city breaks. She's also a lap-dancer and has an OF page.

I swiped right, if I'm not back in three days...

How did Bumble big tits go ?

[Mr Sinister]

Incoming summertime bump -

Walking around the city on lunch break little skirt and so much flesh about. Definitely coming into the season where women want to be out and about.

Slowly coming back into things after a little break, there's been a couple of surprises, woo just seems to be a place with lots of bored single moms who are really smutty underneath, some are all too happy to send vids/pics of their chebs but meeting is the another thing.

[sparkus]

Incoming summertime bump -

Walking around the city on lunch break little skirt and so much flesh about. Definitely coming into the season where women want to be out and about.

Slowly coming back into things after a little break, there's been a couple of surprises, woo just seems to be a place with lots of bored single moms who are really smutty underneath, some are all too happy to send vids/pics of their chebs but meeting is the another thing.

My dating app antics had life changing consequences so I wish you well with the single moms. Porked a few during my POF era.

Lots of shorts and summers dresses out this week, it's the annual hornfest. Saw the best chebs, ass and calves in ages on three militantly facially plain women yesterday.

[Mr Sinister]

My dating app antics had life changing consequences so I wish you well with the single moms. Porked a few during my POF era.

Lots of shorts and summers dresses out this week, it's the annual hornfest. Saw the best chebs, ass and calves in ages on three militantly facially plain women yesterday.

You know what single moms used to be a no no for me in the past, but in recent times been having a lot of fun with them. As long as you are upfront and honest with what your are looking for and they have realistic expectations that doesn't include me playing step daddy or thinking I'm going to marry them one day then it's all good.

I've come across those who are just happy to be shown a simple good time away from their daily life and they'll give up the cheeks for you.

The plain Janes, absolutely average looking women can have the best bodies out there, only problem is when they catch onto this and their egos get blown up

[sparkus]

You know what single moms used to be a no no for me in the past, but in recent times been having a lot of fun with them. As long as you are upfront and honest with what your are looking for and they have realistic expectations that doesn't include me playing step daddy or thinking I'm going to marry them one day then it's all good.

I've come across those who are just happy to be shown a simple good time away from their daily life and they'll give up the cheeks for you.

The plain Janes, absolutely average looking women can have the best bodies out there, only problem is when they catch onto this and their egos get blown up

I've never come across any with ego issues.  It's quite a bonus to be pleasantly surprised when the kit comes off.
In fact, thinking back I've experienced the opposite e.g. women who are quite under-confident because of being plain in the face department and have been coy/down on themselves etc.

Women who have epic chebs but aren't particularly attractive often have a defensive wall or engage in sarcasm e.g. "We both know why you're here" or "Let's get it over with then" etc.

[PumpDump]

You know what single moms used to be a no no for me in the past, but in recent times been having a lot of fun with them. As long as you are upfront and honest with what your are looking for and they have realistic expectations that doesn't include me playing step daddy or thinking I'm going to marry them one day then it's all good.

Where do you find them?

Nevermind, just read your previous posts and saw the answers!

[Ali Katt]

Wow this thread hasn't been posted in in a year. I'm back on the apps, took some pictures which are well above average, great bio. I've only been live a week, but not much going on. Probably the worst time of the year to try.

[Mr Sinister]

Wow this thread hasn't been posted in in a year. I'm back on the apps, took some pictures which are well above average, great bio. I've only been live a week, but not much going on. Probably the worst time of the year to try.

Yeah I took a break from the apps, let most of my roster die out, shit is exhausting after a while.
One woman reconnected with me after some years, we dated for a bit but then she became pushy couldn't give her what she wanted on her terms so she finished things, got a message from her in meme/vid the other week which I gave a 👍 she obviously tried to test the waters again but I'm not bothering with it

I may jump back on for the summer and see if there is any fun to be had