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Offline winkywanky

Have you read the "bbc only escort" tab? Even if she lowered the price, she won't see you unless you fit what she's looking for.


At £300/hr, clearly she hasn't researched her intended demographic, although maybe she'd hoping for a Footballer (or three)?  :D

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At £300/hr, clearly she hasn't researched her intended demographic, although maybe she'd hoping for a Footballer (or three)?  :D

I think she's not attractive enough to bag a footballer, even if she offered to fuck them for free.

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I think she's not attractive enough to bag a footballer, even if she offered to fuck them for free.

Fair point!  :D

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I think she's not attractive enough to bag a footballer, even if she offered to fuck them for free.
Wayne Rooney in an Afro wig might have a go.

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You're forgetting Blackface is no longer allowed, and with his Oirish roots, Rooney's as pasty-faced as they come .

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You're forgetting Blackface is no longer allowed, and with his Oirish roots, Rooney's as pasty-faced as they come .
She can turn off the lights and think of England ... losing in the World Cup.

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Shouldn't be too difficlt to imagine that  :D

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Apologies in advance for the long post. None of what follows has much bearing on the discussion about “are some SPs being racist” but in terms of the legal definition and Discrimination laws etc I believe this adds some clarity and hopefully resolution?

Ah, this old chestnut, but turned on its head  :rolleyes:.

There's been many discussions on here about this (most of them very civilised and unrancorous, PP where art thou?  :()

Who you choose to have sex with is separate from everything else in your life. It just is. The grey area if you will, is when having sex is your job. So you end up with a clash of 'Rights'.

The inalienable right of a person to receive the same treatment or a service, regardless of their race/colour/religion.

And: the inalienable right of a woman to choose who she allows between her legs. If you force her to do anything else, that's rape.


Indeed. This was the Peter Purves thread prior to his demise in which I posted this https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=270524.msg2767814#msg2767814

The thread was going nowhere with PP myself and others, so I took it to PM and in an attempt to break the deadlock I contacted the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) saying I wished to make a complaint about being discriminated against by a prostitute because of my ethnicity.

The Equality Advisory and Support Service (EASS)  initially asked me for more details including dates, whether I had seen a lawyer and what outcome was I looking for? (That last one stumped me?)
However they also asked me if it was an escort agency and when I said no was told

"This would not fall under a sector within the Act because it’s an individual who is offering the service and not an organisation"

I replied saying that I thought the Act applied to sole traders as well as organisations and that an individual offering sexual services for financial gain, even though not part of an organisation, would be classed as a sole trader?

They replied  “Sole traders who are registered are likely to be covered within the Equality Act 2010 and an individual could possibly argue they are receiving a service from them”.
However, due to the nature of the service you are complaining about and all the complex legality’s in the sex industry, including those previously raised by yourself*, you would have to seek independent legal advice about this matter. It would not be something we can assist you with".

* Sexual Offences Act 2003

From this I took it that
 
(a)   The perception is that most individual prostitutes are not registered as sole traders with HMRC and if not, then they are not covered by the Act.
(b)   That as Davie, WW and others have said there are a complex number of overlapping laws involved including the Sexual Offences act 2003.
(c)   There is some doubt that providing sexual services would be considered a service in the nature of the Act?
(d)   That the only way that (c) can be decided legally is for someone to take this to court for a test case (as posted by Gordon Bennett) and to set a precedent based on the conflicting Laws.
(e)   That (d) has not happened yet or EASS would have advised me of such.
(f)    That (d) is unlikely to ever happen as it is unlikely to be successful.
(g)   There is a possibility that Escort Agencies and Massage parlours may be covered by the Act and that the EHRC may have offered further advice? However as others have pointed out we never see escort  agencies or parlours stating anything about ethnicity in their advertising.
(h)    That said if an individual escort at a parlour refused a client then you are back to the situation in (a) etc
(i)   That EHRC don’t want to touch this with a barge pole  :D


Hope this helps?

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There was a chunky fake tan chav who worked around Leyton/Stratford for years, I even saw her on the tube in her black velour tracksuit once, who only saw black guys.  Probably thought she was living some 'BBC and being paid for it' dream or something.

Offline PMAC123

It is racist but not in a way that could possibly matter. Won't somebody think of the poor white people that can't see one ugly WG :lol:
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personally I find her ugly, but clearly someone is paying

Offline Mr Sinister

finally only interested in a black person for his color of his skin and nothing else.

Personally I don't mess with those type of women when dating is concerned. Only benefit for them is FWB or one night stand. If I would to be in a relationship with a woman, I would like to think a woman would be interested in me personally and who I am rather than what color my skin is.



My experience in civvy land, those who openly state it in OLD have a fetish, most of these women I've come across are entitled as fuck, they're mostly interested In a certain stereotype otherwise they don't have anything interesting to say, then again they also fit a certain stereotype chavvy, chubby, single mom's.

There are those who have an innocent preference, like later on down the line they'll come out with it which is cool as long as am not be fetishized.

Offline mace-window

My experience in civvy land, those who openly state it in OLD have a fetish, most of these women I've come across are entitled as fuck, they're mostly interested In a certain stereotype otherwise they don't have anything interesting to say, then again they also fit a certain stereotype chavvy, chubby, single mom's.

There are those who have an innocent preference, like later on down the line they'll come out with it which is cool as long as am not be fetishized.

Exactly. End of the day, if you cross roads with such a women, just keep it FWB/one night stand and if she don't want any of that, just keep it moving. 

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There are some who don't want to see South Asian men.. there personal space and preference.. so no biggie.. just move on!!
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Offline munterhunter

Blimey! This one's a turn up for the books........ Only sees black men!

Obviously been previous threads and discussions about the ladies who "don't see black mans"  but this one has turned things on their head.

I'd like to feign outrage and dismay at her not letting me, a white man, see her but she's not really my type. Is she anyone's though?????

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She's selling sexual services it's not like you are buying a bag of spuds.
I'm not going to scream racist at anyone who says "I won't see white men" Or ageist at anyone saying "I won't see men over the age of 50" I don't find it personally offensive because I am over 50 and happen to be white a choice I had no control over!
I'm just going to move on and find another escort who isn't as choosy.


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She's selling sexual services it's not like you are buying a bag of spuds.
I'm not going to scream racist at anyone who says "I won't see white men" Or ageist at anyone saying "I won't see men over the age of 50" I don't find it personally offensive because I am over 50 and happen to be white a choice I had no control over!
I'm just going to move on and find another escort who isn't as choosy.

spot on.

As long as they are up front about it then that’s absolutly fine.

Offline _Bender_

Blimey! This one's a turn up for the books........ Only sees black men!

Obviously been previous threads and discussions about the ladies who "don't see black mans"  but this one has turned things on their head.

I'd like to feign outrage and dismay at her not letting me, a white man, see her but she's not really my type. Is she anyone's though?????

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🤢 as a negro myself, I wouldn’t go near that! 😬

Offline jsparky

I'm not racist but I'm definitely accent-ist.

You are definitely a racist if you judge people based on accent. I'm not just talking about WG and speaking from my personal experience in UK, I have been turn down from many things by the phone call alone. The type of 'covert racism' which is disguised and subtle, concealed and works subliminally, and the discrimination is being done subconsciously.

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You are definitely a racist if you judge people based on accent. I'm not just talking about WG and speaking from my personal experience in UK, I have been turn down from many things by the phone call alone. The type of 'covert racism' which is disguised and subtle, concealed and works subliminally, and the discrimination is being done subconsciously.

I’m not sure if that racism.. I subconsciously discriminate based on how people speak to me, not so much the accent but more how they portray themselves. If they cannot speak English very well or cannot explain things in a coherent manner I tend to dismiss them and certainly would not invite them to an interview.
They can be white, black or any race...
But that’s work related personally I do like a cute accent and if they can’t speak English it doesn’t bother me..

Offline jsparky

I’m not sure if that racism.. I subconsciously discriminate based on how people speak to me, not so much the accent but more how they portray themselves. If they cannot speak English very well or cannot explain things in a coherent manner I tend to dismiss them and certainly would not invite them to an interview.
They can be white, black or any race...
But that’s work related personally I do like a cute accent and if they can’t speak English it doesn’t bother me..

You had just confirmed your 'Covert discrimination' and subconsciously apply to people you meet in your daily lifes. Due to my bad experience, I had 'consciously' tried to be more helpful and understanding to peoples who doesn't speak english properly or in a foreign accent. To some extent, we are all guilty of unconscious bias, its up to us to apply our intelligence for greater awareness to overcome our own prejudice.
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Offline NuruGuru

The phrase once you go black.... springs to mind.

Offline mace-window

The phrase once you go black.... springs to mind.

All due respect. I once believe that but from experience and as we live in 2020 WAP culture, most of the ladies are fucking any color of man in their prime and younger days. But most of these women (namely white women for example) marry the man of same race as them without tell him about her past once the fun is over (look at the UK marriage/family statics). So yeah, once you go black you never return back most likely will return back in 2020 and beyond.

Offline Fitzjew

Seems like most here are triggered, many escorts have NBA policy and no one gives two fucks. let her be , why waste energy with this ?

Offline _Bender_

Uh uhhh ... Fitzjew’s in da house .. I said Fitzjew’s in da ha hu ha hu houuusseeee!!!  :lol: :D

Seems like most here are triggered, many escorts have NBA policy and no one gives two fucks. let her be , why waste energy with this ?

Yeahhh ... people seem to be trippin about all this, shit ... c’est la vie  :unknown:

Offline NuruGuru

All due respect. I once believe that but from experience and as we live in 2020 WAP culture, most of the ladies are fucking any color of man in their prime and younger days. But most of these women (namely white women for example) marry the man of same race as them without tell him about her past once the fun is over (look at the UK marriage/family statics). So yeah, once you go black you never return back most likely will return back in 2020 and beyond.

Why you so triggered bro? Do you not like the idea of your white women taking a good pounding from that BBC?

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Why you so triggered bro? Do you not like the idea of your white women taking a good pounding from that BBC?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm pretty sure he's black.

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Why you so triggered bro? Do you not like the idea of your white women taking a good pounding from that BBC?

Mace is black LOL.

Offline mace-window

Why you so triggered bro? Do you not like the idea of your white women taking a good pounding from that BBC?

I actually do like pounding a pretty white woman every now and then (or any pretty woman of non-white color for that matter). I sometimes do every now and then. If you are black, you should try it like myself.

Offline Gambitman92

Why you so triggered bro? Do you not like the idea of your white women taking a good pounding from that BBC?

People of all races fuck eachother and go back, it isn't a big deal, I was casually seeing a white girl last month, she is now dating a white guy, and the girl I was with before her was asian.

I like the idea of having sex with a woman, but another man doing it doesn't turn me on, then again, I'm not a cuck but it's cool if you are.

Most guys of all races are around the same size, but this is the internet, and everyone is 10 inches.
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Offline exe-punter

So I called a lady yesterday (she wasn't from the UK herself), and one of her first questions was "where are you from originally". When I said that I wasn't caucasian, the phone went down.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this. On one hand, dismissing someone purely on their race is maybe racist. But then again, from a business point of view - "vendors" (for want of a better description) reserve the right to sell or not sell to whoever they want to.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this, as I'd never dismiss someone based on their race. But maybe that's because I'm not fussy :rolleyes:

Offline sonyvaio

Depends on what the question you're asking is? But he short answer is -

Yes its racist.

But as you said, in this context, its up to the SP to decide what services she provides [or pretends to offer!] and to whom. Some have age restrictions, weight restrictions, etc etc. -

Offline Gambitman92

So I called a lady yesterday (she wasn't from the UK herself), and one of her first questions was "where are you from originally". When I said that I wasn't caucasian, the phone went down.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this. On one hand, dismissing someone purely on their race is maybe racist. But then again, from a business point of view - "vendors" (for want of a better description) reserve the right to sell or not sell to whoever they want to.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this, as I'd never dismiss someone based on their race. But maybe that's because I'm not fussy :rolleyes:

This subject always comes up and we always get different answers, some don't think it's racist, some do and others might not agree with it but they understand from a business/safety point of view.

It's extremely rare for a wg to turn down ALL non white races, it's usually "no black guys" or like a few british wg mention on their profiles, "no south asians or arabs. But black, east asian and white welcome" etc etc

Why did you say you were non white, why didn't you mention your exact race? Maybe she thought you were a time waster.

Most wgs see men of all races but some don't see guys based on age, bodyweight, race etc

I mention that I'm black, if she says no, then I move on to the next girl, there's plenty of them about, not a big deal imo.
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Why did you say you were non white, why didn't you mention your exact race? Maybe she thought you were a time waster.


Sorry, I should have been clearer. Her exact words were "Where are you from originally?" and I told her...that's when she put the phone down.

Offline hermanmunster

So I called a lady yesterday (she wasn't from the UK herself), and one of her first questions was "where are you from originally". When I said that I wasn't caucasian, the phone went down.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this. On one hand, dismissing someone purely on their race is maybe racist. But then again, from a business point of view - "vendors" (for want of a better description) reserve the right to sell or not sell to whoever they want to.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this, as I'd never dismiss someone based on their race. But maybe that's because I'm not fussy :rolleyes:

Yes it is racist, but, very sadly you are going to have to let her be racist.  It's better that you find out and don't meet her, rather than turn up and get a crap/no service and you've wasted both your money and time.


Offline bedhedred

With a less idealistic, and a more practical slant, here's My 2p worth :

I have not tried her again. Girls who profile punters are usually shit when you get to meet them. Means their profile is basically a lie, and that's also your experience.

I could have dodged Pretty little Sophie
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=282971.0

And

Deep sloopy owo
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=279049.0

Both negs that began with a "where are you from originally" text.

I'm white, but from now on, I won't pursue such leads
« Last Edit: October 30, 2020, 03:39:34 pm by bedhedred »

Offline binbag

Who you want to have sex with doesn't necessarily determine whether you're a racist or not. (Some racists actually like to display their racism by having sex with other races.) I don't make bookings with Asians because I don't usually fancy them. Does that make me an anti Asian racist? I don't fancy women under/over a certain age, over a certain weight. I don't hate those women. I just don't fancy having sex with them.  I don't fancy sex with men . Does that make me anti-gay? If it's reasonable for punters to make such decisions surely the WG should be allowed the same privilege. Just because they are making money from sex shouldn't mean they are obliged to fuck everyone who asks.

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So I called a lady yesterday (she wasn't from the UK herself), and one of her first questions was "where are you from originally". When I said that I wasn't caucasian, the phone went down.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this. On one hand, dismissing someone purely on their race is maybe racist. But then again, from a business point of view - "vendors" (for want of a better description) reserve the right to sell or not sell to whoever they want to.

Just interested in people's thoughts on this, as I'd never dismiss someone based on their race. But maybe that's because I'm not fussy :rolleyes:
I've merged this with the existing thread, no point in two on the same subject.

Offline cotton

Sorry, I should have been clearer. Her exact words were "Where are you from originally?" and I told her...that's when she put the phone down.
Aside from the the racist question , i think its just rude. I mean how difficult would it be for her to say something like "sorry baby i dont see guys from x,yand z".
People from all the various races are bound to have various ingrained beliefs about people from other countries and races, thats only natural , but just being polite goes a long way.
Like your hooker - her race policy seems racist and discriminatory in nature , but being discriminatory within the realm of sexual preference is permissible , but theres ways of going about
 it and just putting the phone down is unecessarily rude , so id assume she is simply rude by nature and she would likely be equally as rude to anyone , including someone on her approved race list if for whatever reason she coudnt be bothered to talk , she would just put the phone down. 
So if i were you id think ok shes entitled to discriminate regarding who she sees and who she dosnt see , but based on her being so rude your probably well off not seeing her , whereas if she had answered and was freindly but apologised and said unfortunately she dosnt see people from x,y and z for her own personal reasons and she sounded really nice and freindly then you might have reason to regret that you might have missed out on a good punt with a nice chik.

Offline pewpewpew

I saw a Taiwanese (so she said) yesterday and before I was allowed in the maid had to see me from the window. She gave me directions of where to stand and I was parked up the street and took a minute to walk there. On the way I just said to her "Are you checking if I'm black? I'm not black" and she said ok and gave me the door number. Crazy

On another note here's another on topic female
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But she does see white guys, only for domination though

Offline mace-window

I saw a Taiwanese (so she said) yesterday and before I was allowed in the maid had to see me from the window. She gave me directions of where to stand and I was parked up the street and took a minute to walk there. On the way I just said to her "Are you checking if I'm black? I'm not black" and she said ok and gave me the door number. Crazy

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But she does see white guys, only for domination though

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Offline Southendlothario

Sex workers constantly tell us that sex work is work and they should be entitled to all the same rights and legal protections as other types of workers and businesses (which I agree with).

Under the Equality Act 2010 it is unlawful to discriminate in providing goods or services to the public on grounds of age, disability, gender reassignment,pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex, or sexual orientation (aka "protected characteristics").

In my opinion, if you want to be treated the same as other workers/businesses, you should have to obey the same laws.

Try and tell us that work is work and they view it as that, but how many of them declare all of their earnings and pay the relevant taxation on what they earn.
Have a look on SAAFE, there are threads on the subject. 3/4 commenting on it are proud that they dont pay their dues. Probably claiming benefits too!
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Offline ffstiap

Sex workers constantly tell us that sex work is work and they should be entitled to all the same rights and legal protections as other types of workers and businesses (which I agree with).

Under the Equality Act 2010 it is unlawful to discriminate in providing goods or services to the public on grounds of age, disability, gender reassignment,pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex, or sexual orientation (aka "protected characteristics").

In my opinion, if you want to be treated the same as other workers/businesses, you should have to obey the same laws.

I think you should book a tall straight butch guy with lots of muscle and an aggressive temperament and then give him that little speech of yours when he doesn't want to fuck you... :hi:

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I think you should book a tall straight butch guy with lots of muscle and an aggressive temperament and then give him that little speech of yours when he doesn't want to fuck you... :hi:

What???????????????????????????????

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What???????????????????????????????

I think he wanted to draw a bigger picture: the law is one thing but reality is different  :unknown:
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Anyway the "subject" of this thread is an ugly freak  :vomit: and i'm not going to miss her, she can fuck off with her policies.
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Offline P Hughes

Trust me those fat, ugly old swingers would never give the light of day to us black guys when they were younger and more attractive days.
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