Fake Profiles?

[joninbristol]

Anyone else notice that 12x bi-Curious women, all offering a full range of services, all based in Bath Spa were registered as a job lot today in very quick succession? All near identical wording with some later changes to make the appear a bit more original:

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We've all seen cloned profiles before, but I suspect that these are either PG only profiles (hence flagging them), or someone's too dim to realise that's going to attract some serious attention from plod.
Either that or the local blue rinse squad have recently all keeled over and Bath has suddenly become a den of unchallenged and questionable morality !

[rudolph hucker]

Romanians being bussed in now then?

[winkywanky]

Yes, and apparently they're all curious about having sex with each other  .

[JimmySW]

Can't be bothered to look at all of the profiles but they all seem to have A levels and Bareback listed and this profile External Link/Members Only seems to be the source of the photos for this one: External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

[mgalaxy]

Another couple to be wary of - I added both these profiles to my HL, then realised they both have the same pictures

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[joninbristol]

Thanks for the additional detective work Jimmy and M, both appreciated and blacklisted.
Cheers.

[Londonpunter30]

Are you telling me you don’t believe 16 girls from bath would decide to be escorts at the exact same time ?

This is how crap AW are this should be reported as it’s against the norm, but they will do fuck all.  The ads will be removed but come back a day later.  I’ve raised this on the forum before and no one really cares.

I recognise some of the pics from previous fake profiles in other parts of the country.  I’m  convinced there is one gang on pimps creating brothels in certain parts of the co7ntry hence the flood of fakes in AW in Croydon and other areas of the country with pics moving between regions.

Shit like this makes me think the girls may be trafficked

[joninbristol]

Are you telling me you don’t believe 16 girls from bath would decide to be escorts at the exact same time ?

This is how crap AW are this should be reported as it’s against the norm, but they will do fuck all.  The ads will be removed but come back a day later.  I’ve raised this on the forum before and no one really cares.

I recognise some of the pics from previous fake profiles in other parts of the country.  I’m  convinced there is one gang on pimps creating brothels in certain parts of the country hence the flood of fakes in AW in Croydon and other areas of the country with pics moving between regions.

Shit like this makes me think the girls may be trafficked

Agreed, and that was my first thought, was that it could be a trafficking gang. They're beyond stupid if that's the case, as it's exactly this sort of behaviour that will get them the attention of regional crime squads. 
You'd think they have more intelligence, but maybe not.


Likewise, I'm sure AW could easily track this kind of mass posting at the web site level, it must be technically quite simple. But hey, my cynical hat says that web space is ultra cheap and the fees generated from the listings more than pay for the minuscule cost of the internet space they use.   

[Londonpunter30]

from monitoring new profiles across the country I think there is one main gain of traffickers, or at least pimps running the brother racket.  The profiles that appear all over the country have the same text and pics move across the country to different areas.

I used to think this was a PG scam, but you need to have a profile up for 3 days or moer before you can get the credits out, and they usually go before then.  For 2 years this has been going on in Croydon with 8 profiles a day and nothing is ever done about it.   Thats a huge profit for AW who dont give a shit about this sort of thing.

I keep hoping one day a bust will lead the police to AW and they might start to manage the website properly but that hasnt happened yet.

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same pics in above two profiles. text is clearly copied from another website for the second one as it doesnt make any sense

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same pics on above two profiles.  Again the second one looks like the text is stolen from elsewhere as claims to be an adult star

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same profile pics above.  Top one claims the girl is blonde when its a brunette.  Similar pattern text is copied from elsewhere.

AW site is going downhill, you cant trust a single new profile anymore and they dont give a shit

[scutty brown]

Anyone else notice that 12x bi-Curious women, all offering a full range of services, all based in Bath Spa were registered as a job lot today in very quick succession? All near identical wording with some later changes to make the appear a bit more original:

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We've all seen cloned profiles before, but I suspect that these are either PG only profiles (hence flagging them), or someone's too dim to realise that's going to attract some serious attention from plod.
Either that or the local blue rinse squad have recently all keeled over and Bath has suddenly become a den of unchallenged and questionable morality !

Fairly typical Romanian trafficking setup.
You'll have around three girls with three or four profiles per girl. Usually a mix of BB and non-BB to widen the appeal - if you look you'll probably find another batch of non-BB
Around half these profiles have been dumped already by AW, that was expected - thats partly why they post so many, they'll use the surviving accounts. You'll notice no nationality is listed - doing that appears to put a delay in the verification system.

As for the police, things like this come under the purview of the local antitrafficking / human slavery teams, not regional crime squads. To be realistic theres little they can do unless someone sees the conditions the girls are working in, and reports it with a full address.

[MrMatrix]

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I reckon this is afake as well. What do you think Scutty

[Coriniumstud]

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I reckon this is afake as well. What do you think Scutty

Looks too good too be true

[MrMatrix]

Looks too good too be true

My thoughts too.   

[scutty brown]

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I reckon this is afake as well. What do you think Scutty

Its stolen, pictures from that set all over the web, all nicked from an original on "First Time Videos"
I've not found the original set, but here's enough to prove the point
I think her first name is Blake

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[scutty brown]

Known as Blake Blossom
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if you google "ftvgirls blake" you'll find a host of porn videos with her in

[MrMatrix]

Known as Blake Blossom
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if you google "ftvgirls blake" you'll find a host of porn videos with her in

Thanks Scutty. Some lovely looking girls on this site. However always figured my reference above was to good to be true. And so it was.

[MrMatrix]

Today I've noticed this Romanian. External Link/Members Only Cinndy sweet. However I'm sure someone has already commented on this picture and can only assume this is a new profile ready for B&S.

[scutty brown]

Today I've noticed this Romanian. External Link/Members Only Cinndy sweet. However I'm sure someone has already commented on this picture and can only assume this is a new profile ready for B&S.

seems to be stolen from the VK  account of a Russian, Alina Sergeeva though the same photo appears with other names elsewhere
Some sites say she's a Ukrainian named Karina Stalnova

FWIW the Cinndy sweet name has been used before - there was a touring girl who used it around six years ago

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[MrMatrix]

seems to be stolen from the VK  account of a Russian, Alina Sergeeva though the same photo appears with other names elsewhere
Some sites say she's a Ukrainian named Karina Stalnova

FWIW the Cinndy sweet name has been used before - there was a touring girl who used it around six years ago

Cheers Scutty. Just knew it as soon as I saw her. I knew this pic had been used before but I couldnt find it.

[scutty brown]

I reported both those last two as fake an they're now deleted
Proves that reporting works

[Londonpunter30]

I reported both those last two as fake an they're now deleted
Proves that reporting works

Not really as they will be added again a few hours later.

I’d rather they stayed then we can search for the ID and index the fakes

Reporting them also generates more income for AW

[scutty brown]

Not really as they will be added again a few hours later.

I’d rather they stayed then we can search for the ID and index the fakes

Reporting them also generates more income for AW

thats ridiculous logic
the more thats reported the less there are. AW will be aware of the phone numbers and IP addresses now and will start culling replacements

[Londonpunter30]

thats ridiculous logic
the more thats reported the less there are. AW will be aware of the phone numbers and IP addresses now and will start culling replacements

You clearly haven’t been looking at the suspected aw scams thread.  Just look at the posts Lewis has put up, some fake profiles have been coming back almost daily for 2 years.

AW can ban IPs and mobiles, and even the pics themselves, yet they choose not to.  Do an AW search and filter by new profiles, the first 5 pages contain nearly 100% fakes.  Monitor it on a daily basis and you can see the same profiles appearing on a daily basis.

Reporting only creates more money for AW, I’d rather they stayed and I blacklisted them

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[scutty brown]

You clearly haven’t been looking at the suspected aw scams thread.  Just look at the posts Lewis has put up, some fake profiles have been coming back almost daily for 2 years.

AW can ban IPs and mobiles, and even the pics themselves, yet they choose not to.  Do an AW search and filter by new profiles, the first 5 pages contain nearly 100% fakes.  Monitor it on a daily basis and you can see the same profiles appearing on a daily basis.

Reporting only creates more money for AW, I’d rather they stayed and I blacklisted them

they appear on a daily basis because they get culled on a daily basis, often automatically.     AW do ban them.
the more you report the more that get killed off - and it doesn't make  AW money

[Lewis]

Well I've been logging phone numbers used against any fake accounts I report for several months now.

I can tell you the same phone numbers get used among several repeat fake profiles. Some phone numbers can be linked to over 10 fake profiles that I've previously reported and have been removed by AW.

Aw could simply block a phone number with a filter, but they don't bother. Same numbers are being recycled more times than a plastic bottle.

If IP addresses are being logged by AW, then they're doing nothing with them. I've created several accounts as a test. Never bothered removing cookies or switching off/on my router to change the IP address before creating next one. Some of those fake accounts remained in place for over 2 weeks before either being deleted or changed to "show content only". Some of those fake accounts had the same photos in more than one account. Some had photos that other fake accounts regularly use.

Basically AW don't give a shit. They have no detection in place. There are no checks being made by a human eye.

A couple of the fake accounts I created had private galleries and made a couple of quid. There was no way to extract the money without first verifying the account.

AW are on a win win situation. Half the fake accounts are being created by AW themselves. The other fake accounts are paying AW to display the phone number, paying for "available today" flag, etc. Where does all that money go? Straight into the bank of AW.

[Chatte Noir]

Thanks for your insight and research Lewis , it’s good to have someone who knows how these things work . 

[Londonpunter30]

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She’s now part of the 8 profiles created today in Edinburgh.  Now maybe 8 women all decided to become escorts at the same time, but I very much doubt that.

It’s clearly the same group in Bath that are behind these profiles , numbers are displayed , so there will be a brothel behind this.  I suspect a lot of these are all run by a few groups.

I’ve estimated in Croydon the pimps are spending 20k on AW profiles but still make a profit.

AW don’t give a fuck and don’t regulate their profiles, going through the first 5 pages of new profiles and there are less than 10 genuine new profiles

[scutty brown]

Yesterday this woman  External Link/Members Only had two profiles in Bath and was part of the original batch of 16 fakes in Bath.

She’s now part of the 8 profiles created today in Edinburgh.  Now maybe 8 women all decided to become escorts at the same time, but I very much doubt that.

It’s clearly the same group in Bath that are behind these profiles , numbers are displayed , so there will be a brothel behind this.  I suspect a lot of these are all run by a few groups.

I’ve estimated in Croydon the pimps are spending 20k on AW profiles but still make a profit.

AW don’t give a fuck and don’t regulate their profiles, going through the first 5 pages of new profiles and there are less than 10 genuine new profiles

It will be a touring group of 2 or 3 girls, being couriered around the country.  They will have multiple profiles to increase appeal. Yes there will be a trafficking gang behind it, but so there are behind most of these girls. As to whether the photos on this profile are fake, all I can find are copies on scam sites - not any originals. Could mean they really are the girl, could be they're stolen from somewhere that the search engines don't index like the publi24.ro escort site. However there's no evidence to shut the profile down.
But when you can provide evidence AW will act - I've had ten taken down in the last 24 hours.
There's two ways to hurt the traffickers: keep taking the sites down, and locate the addresses being used and report them.
But the truth is you'ree looking in the wrong direction: the trafficking activity has been dropping on AW for the last couple of years and switching to Vivastreet for the simple reason VS carry out fewer checks

[Lewis]

To be honest, I don't bother reporting these profiles without PGs anymore. It would take me forever. Besides, I call these "24 to 48 hour profiles" that AW generally delete anyway.


The sort of report I would submit to AW for this one would be something like:

Also pointing out that the websites the photos are from relate to London, but the profile is in Edinburgh (or wherever).

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[scutty brown]

Problem is those sites are all scam sites which have already stolen the pix, not the original.
To make a report you have to find the real source and I'd the girl

[Lewis]

Another added problem is that the photos have been changed already.

So any reports already sent into AW will be meaningless and not relate to the current photos being used.

I've had this before with a few scam profiles. I've had to make it very clear to AW that the photos keep changing and provide as many links to all the different photos that I can.

The trouble is, quite often AW see things with blinkered vision. i.e. They only see what they want to see and can sometimes be a bit thick.

You really have to spell it out to them sometimes, but at the same time keep the report concise or they won't bother to read it.