Popular media on UKEscorting.com (free site!)

UKPunting is a free, independent and not-for-profit paid sex buyer site.




Author Topic: Diamonds - Various  (Read 21085 times)

Hi again,

As there are various threads that relate to us I figured it would be easier to try to address them all in one post. There won't be any deliberate advertising/touting as we will only be addressing issues that have already been raised. However, if admin are not happy with anything in particular then please feel free to remove it.

1. Fake Feedback

I would like to state for the record that none of the fake reports that have been sent in were created by ourselves. Neither have they been created by the girls or anyone associated with us.

Having reviewed all of the IP addresses for feedback sent for Grace, Macey, Layla and Tanya using the aliases AnthG, Holycrosser, Kal/themademan and the Mo family, they have all been sent from the same two IP addresses - coincidently the same IP addresses that Ginger Gary has used to leave feedback for his appointments.

We have had various issues with Gary for some time now - copious emails and texts, various threats and some issues that highlight he has too much free time, no life and leads a very sad existence in which he craves attention and lives in a fantasy world.

I will happily post these IP addresses if that's ok with admin?

Unfortunately Gary changes his phone number as often as his personality so it is almost impossible to prevent him making bookings and we tend not to realise it was him until after he has sent in feedback or sent emails/texts bigging himself up, saying how much the girl enjoyed her time with him (often in quite explicit detail) and stating that he and the girl have exchanged numbers and are now dating etc etc.

Clearly after being banned from this forum he has taken it upon himself to cause more problems not jst for Diamonds but also for various forum users.

As in my post yesterday I sincerely apologise to those involved as we should have picked up on this earlier. IP addresses and other details on feedback were not being checked properly which is our own fault and I hold my hands up to that.

From now on, feedback will be updated twice a week and only myself will be responsible for doing so. If the name, date, time and contact details on the feedback relate to an actual booking then it will be added to the site regardless of whether it is good, bad or indifferent. If any of these details are missing or incorrect then it will not be activated (I have spoken to our web guy to make these fields mandatory anyway so that should be in place shortly). Girls will be informed of negative feedback and will be given a chance to respond which will also be added to the site.

The only time feedback will be edited is if it is too explicit.


2. Girls removed from the site

As has been pointed out, several girls have been removed from the site this week - for various reasons - some of their choosing, some of our choosing and some for reasons beyond any control:

Khloe - has decided to retire from escorting for personal reasons.

Lexi - we took Lexi off the site because she was getting a friend of hers to see the clients we sent her and had various reliability/communication issues.

Arabella - has not left but has had to change her name because of a family issue.

Macey, Kim and Cindy - all friends and all removed for combination of unreliability, communication issues, drug issues, theft and general dishonesty.

Sienna, Zara and Poppy - have not been in contact to send in working hours for several weeks now. Poppy is still doing some independent work but Sienna and Zara are unlikely to return to escorting because of personal circumstances however, if they do we will welcome them back.

It is also possible that due to family members finding out we may need to change the names of a couple of girls and not add pictures to their profiles immediately until the situation resolves itself.

I agree it is not ideal to remove so many girls in one go but there would ne no point in keeping profiles on the site for girls who would not in all likelihood actually be available at any point.


3. Eastern European Girls


I have said before on here that I have never before know any girl or group of girls receive such a polarised response from clients. It is simply not true that nobody wants to see EE girls as they have many regular and return clients. There are some good EE escorts and some bad EE escorts in the same way there are some good and bad English escorts

However, I do fully understand that EE girls are not everybody's cup of tea and that unfortunately some of them may not offer the same type/level of service as some of the English girls.

I also appreciate that many of the members of this forum are seasoned punters and therefore expect high levels of service for their money.

It is clear from each girl's profile what nationality she is and what level of English she commands and should therefore be easy for those that wish to book an EE girl to do so and for those that wish to stick to English girls to do the same - we are not trying to hide the fact that we represent them - there is a choice that the client himself can make.

Having said all of this, it is likely that we will be reducing the number of EE girls that we agree to represent in the near future and in response to comments made on here we will make a deliberate effort to represent and increased number of English girls.


4. Profile Information and Pictures

It is unlikely that we will add specific services to each girl's profile for a number of reasons. Firstly, we were asked not to by the Police Liaison Officer when we first set up the site. Secondly because it puts girls under pressure to offer those services to each and every client despite them being listed at their own discretion. Finally because when family members or friends come across someone they recognise on an escorting site then a list of services makes it difficult to make excuses for.

Whilst a list would obviously be beneficial to clients, the last time we canvassed opinion from the girls we represented there was an overwhelming nay vote.

However, I will ask again and gauge the response and give some thought as to how this might work.

In terms of pictures, any pictures we take ourselves are only edited to remove tattoos and/or birth marks and to blur out faces. Sometimes girls provide their own images but there is an argument for insisting that we take our own pics so I will give this some further thought.


As mentioned at the start I am not aiming to tout for business on here and I am aware that some members do not think I should be able to post at all -  but as it is a forum set up for the benefit of punters I'm assuming that responding to issues/queries raised in order to improve the service provided is a plus point.

I will therefore be checking this thread over the next few days so if I have missed anything or if anyone would like me to respond to something then I will do - and if that requires taking action regarding our site then we will do that too.

Thanks,

Diamonds.

Offline Jamiee92

One more thing you forgot to address. Your account on UKP has been inactive and unreachable for a number of months will you commit to logging into the forum on a more regular basis in order to maintain public relations with those that pay into your coffers? Seems like a reasonable request  :hi:

Hi Jamie,

Yes, absolutely.

However, if I have not been able to log on or if there is something I have not responded to that you would like me to then please feel free to email us on info@diamondsofnewcastle.com and we will log on as soon as possible.

Thanks

As mentioned above, the relevant fields on the feedback forms are now mandatory and a 'response' facility has also been added for the girls to use.

Thanks to our web guy for a speedy response.

Thanks

Offline Lambada

If this post is not just all talk then hopefully we'll see the return of a quality Diamonds. I'll believe it when I see it.

Offline Toshiba

An issue around the girls likes, i get about an open display, how about if we email you asking her likes can you respond? I.e. Does " xxx" do CIM by email? That would help, is that possible?

Also this issue of 2-3 girls in the flat, i see that as a risk, is this common?

And the hours some of the girls working 10am -2am seems like a burn out situation can these be reduced? It just seems an awful long time tbh

Offline Bengeo13

It has to be said, that's a good response by Diamonds to some valid concerns - let's hope the situation improves as intended - "the proof of the pudding.......................etc."
However, HC raises two other important questions, about the length of shifts and number of girls working from a single address.............................today for example depending on the time you have a choice of 5 girls working from Jesmond, and I'm only aware of the single location.

There is also the issue of negative feedback ,you never post it!

This is as bad as posting only the fake feedback as it portrays the girls in the wrong light. Lets face it, nobody is perfect and not all bookings will be either, so post it up FFS

http://www.diamondsofnewcastle.com/Newcastle_Escort/505/Newcastle_Escort_Daria.html
https://www.adultwork.com/1838090 or https://www.adultwork.com/Naughty+Daria+X

Bored in Sunderland, so I thought what the hell, threw all common sense out of the window and booked Daria through Diamonds as it's cheaper. (Yes she is Romanian and I'm an idiot), initially all went well address sent over minus house number, arrived at postcode, residential street, all good! Got the number off Diamonds, went to knock on the door, no reply, text Diamonds asking what's going on, told me to knock louder, still no reply. Back to the car text Diamonds again and told she is waiting for me, back to door, you guessed it still no reply. Give up on this and decide to leave, just texting Diamonds to tell them what a pile of crap they are when a taxi pulls up and Daria and another girl come out of the house and drive off in it. WTF?

Text Diamonds and told "What do you want me to do not our fault" I point out that they are responsible for my booking and get treated to some mild abuse. Never again!

I suppose I should count myself lucky as both Daria and the other girl are the most fugly mingers I have ever seen, they did me a favour.

Care to comment?


1 review(s) found for the service provider linked to in above post (0 positive, 0 neutral, 1 negative)

Offline AnthG

There are some good EE escorts and some bad EE escorts in the same way there are some good and bad English escorts

......

I will therefore be checking this thread over the next few days so if I have missed anything or if anyone would like me to respond to something then I will do - and if that requires taking action regarding our site then we will do that too.

The main question for me is highlighted by this line. When the bad EE's are identified, why are they not then removed from the site?

I appreciate there will be some guys who may still like that girl. But if the general consensus is that most don't, why keep them on?

One of the main things I like about Amour is Stacey does the 'three strikes then out' promise - where if a girl gets three complaints or three negative reviews then that girl is gone from the site. Its clear Diamonds do not do this. There are a lot of benefits to having this approach IMHO. For one it feels punters if they receive a terrible punt and leave a negative review it will be achieving someone as its one of the notches out of three for her to be sacked. On the flip side if this is there in the air it will push girls to give everyone a good time. 

The simple fact is EE girls like Hannah and Penny were popular as they were providing good service. Girls like Megan are not as its clear she is not offering even close to a good service to people. She may be offering a good service to one or two people she likes the look of. But by the amount of negative reviews she gets that is definitely not universal.

First & foremost, I appreciate the response from Diamonds
(I await the usual slagging off from some of our members about my blatant like for this agency)

I won't pretend to know how to run an agency such as this but I think it's fair of the members on here to openly state what's on their minds re Diamonds, and the subject of EE girls is a very hot topic (for good reason in my personal experience of them)

For now, I would like to request that you are up to date with the girls ages for example, both Collette & Crystal are no longer 18 & whilst it may be a pain to keep on top of a small issue like this, it is a sign of openess & honesty that get's communicated to your clients.
Cheers
FB
« Last Edit: April 17, 2014, 09:28:53 AM by FLYING BLUE »

If this post is not just all talk then hopefully we'll see the return of a quality Diamonds. I'll believe it when I see it.

Obviously we have very little influence on which girls apply to join and which girls don't.

Unfortunately many of the English girls that we extremely popular had to leave last year when we stopped running our own flats as they had nowhere to work from as a result - some girls went independent as a result which is understandable.

We do however, have influence over who we represent once they do apply - i'll be sitting down with the office staff and drivers on Tuesday to discuss a number of things regarding raising the standards in terms of girls, locations, interview process, dress codes etc etc.

If anyone wants to add items to our agenda please feel free.

An issue around the girls likes, i get about an open display, how about if we email you asking her likes can you respond? I.e. Does " xxx" do CIM by email? That would help, is that possible?

Also this issue of 2-3 girls in the flat, i see that as a risk, is this common?

And the hours some of the girls working 10am -2am seems like a burn out situation can these be reduced? It just seems an awful long time tbh

Hi HC,

I'll come back to you after Tuesday next week regarding services etc - I have a few thoughts that might help.

Even when we ran our own flats we never had more than two girls working in a two bed flat. At the moment only the Romanian girls do this - entirely their choice and organised by them - we simply take bookings for them. So in general, any other girls will be on their own in their own location.

I could list a handful of independent girls and girls from other agencies who are, today, working together from shared working locations at the same time - including girls/agencies who are highly praised on here so its not that other agencies don't do it (although they will claim otherwise for PR reasons) its just that's its not as commonly recognised.

In terms of the working hours, they are entirely of the girls own choosing. I have done a few things in the past such as insist girls take certain days or times off etc but to be honest they actually complain when I do that - the EE girls tend to have longer working hours because that is the sole purpose they are here but in reality they do not actually work those hours because they take breaks and time off as the day or week goes on - for example, Megan and Vanessa txt the office this morning to say would be starting at 1pm instead of 10am as they wanted to go into town to do some shopping. This happens on a daily basis but it would be impractical for the calendar to represent this so they are simply listed as available all day. Hope this makes sense.

It has to be said, that's a good response by Diamonds to some valid concerns - let's hope the situation improves as intended - "the proof of the pudding.......................etc."
However, HC raises two other important questions, about the length of shifts and number of girls working from a single address.............................today for example depending on the time you have a choice of 5 girls working from Jesmond, and I'm only aware of the single location.

Hi there,

Only Sonia and Daria are in the same flat - the other girls in Jesmond are in their own separate places organised by themselves but they just all happen to be in the Jesmond area - like we did with Quayside/Quayside West/Quayside East I will try to organise the calendar to reflect this but please be reassured that just because several girls are listed in a particular area it does not mean all in same location.

Thanks

Offline AnthG

We do however, have influence over who we represent once they do apply - i'll be sitting down with the office staff and drivers on Tuesday to discuss a number of things regarding raising the standards in terms of girls, locations, interview process, dress codes etc etc.

If anyone wants to add items to our agenda please feel free.
Kind of feel a bit cheaky coming up with a list of suggestions but if you don't ask you don't get. But the main one for me is the Quayside flats. You seemed to offer them only when Macey, Cindy, Kim were working.

I do not believe its one of those three girls own flat as I have seen other girls there too for diamonds in the past.

So is there no way you can keep this on as a frequent location as opposed to having it every now and again sparingly in the locations.

The other thing. The Heaton/Jesmond flat. (This one will probably come across as very cheeky to suggest) but its clear these are the EE owned agency flats as only the EE girls seem to use them and rotate between those two and also one in benwell and one in Gateshead.

Is there no way you could come to an arrangement that because you are putting their girls up on your website that every now and again as a return to that a popular british girl who is having location sourcing problems could work there one day.

The thing is for me Gateshead is not great for me to get to, and I am not too familiar with it. There are a load of girls I would book if they were available inside Newcastle. For example I would really like to book Eva but Gateshead is not great for me to get to. But if it was Heaton or Jesmond I pass both of these on my way home from work everynight.

There is also the issue of negative feedback ,you never post it!

This is as bad as posting only the fake feedback as it portrays the girls in the wrong light. Lets face it, nobody is perfect and not all bookings will be either, so post it up FFS

Fair point.

From now on, providing feedback relates to a genuine booking (which it is virtually impossible for it to be sent in without doing so) then that feedback will be added to the site regardless of its nature.

In the same way, girls will be able to respond and that response will also be added to the site regardless of its nature.

The only time we will edit feedback or responses will be because of explicit/abusive content.

Therefore, as an agency we will make no judgement as to whether the review is accurate/fair and/or whether the girl's response is accurate/fair - it will all be there for everyone to see and to make their own decisions accordingly.

This should be a much fairer and accurate way for feedback to be maintained and for clients to have confidence in the credibility of the reviews.

Offline Barry Shipton

Good to see Diamonds back on here to answer problems. As I suspected on the fake feedback they didn't check them properly so a twat like Ginger Gary who caused enough problems on here could exploit it. I am sure Admin on here could confirm it's the same IP for the doubters but I'd take it at face value.

As for the turnover, well escorts come (not often!) and go but that's what you expect. Just hope now they live up to the promises.

Offline dino1990

why do people on here think diamonds owe them something? They are a business after all trying to make as much money as possible.

If you don't like their policies to do with feedback, ee girls, location etc etc. Talk with your feet and don't use them.

 I don't use them now as they don't have any girls on offer that take my fancy but I would if something did pop up.

I have to pop out for an hour but will continue to respond once I am back.

Thanks

Offline Toshiba

why do people on here think diamonds owe them something? They are a business after all trying to make as much money as possible.

If you don't like their policies to do with feedback, ee girls, location etc etc. Talk with your feet and don't use them.

 I don't use them now as they don't have any girls on offer that take my fancy but I would if something did pop up.


Any business likes feedback from customers, wether they act on it is up to them, good to see them responding so i for one applaude them

Offline Toshiba

Fair point.

From now on, providing feedback relates to a genuine booking (which it is virtually impossible for it to be sent in without doing so) then that feedback will be added to the site regardless of its nature.

In the same way, girls will be able to respond and that response will also be added to the site regardless of its nature.

The only time we will edit feedback or responses will be because of explicit/abusive content.

Therefore, as an agency we will make no judgement as to whether the review is accurate/fair and/or whether the girl's response is accurate/fair - it will all be there for everyone to see and to make their own decisions accordingly.

This should be a much fairer and accurate way for feedback to be maintained and for clients to have confidence in the credibility of the reviews.


To be honest id not like to see the review part go down this route, it could degenrate into a slanging match, the reviews are all taken with a pinch of salt, this is the place for a fit and proper review system of diamonds and all other imho

Back now so about to start responding!

Care to comment?

Hi Parisno,

Not really sure what to say to this apart from sincerely apologise. Not the service you expect or deserve and not the response I would expect my office to give you either. This will certainly be on the agenda for our meeting on Tuesday. I will also speak to Daria and the Romanian Agency regarding this.

Can't offer you an excuse for this as there isn't one but I am sorry that we let you down.


The main question for me is highlighted by this line. When the bad EE's are identified, why are they not then removed from the site?

I appreciate there will be some guys who may still like that girl. But if the general consensus is that most don't, why keep them on?

One of the main things I like about Amour is Stacey does the 'three strikes then out' promise - where if a girl gets three complaints or three negative reviews then that girl is gone from the site. Its clear Diamonds do not do this. There are a lot of benefits to having this approach IMHO. For one it feels punters if they receive a terrible punt and leave a negative review it will be achieving someone as its one of the notches out of three for her to be sacked. On the flip side if this is there in the air it will push girls to give everyone a good time. 

The simple fact is EE girls like Hannah and Penny were popular as they were providing good service. Girls like Megan are not as its clear she is not offering even close to a good service to people. She may be offering a good service to one or two people she likes the look of. But by the amount of negative reviews she gets that is definitely not universal.

Yeh again, fair point.

Will discuss this on Tuesday but I think the three strike rule would be a good idea to implement.

I also think that it is likely that some of the current EE girls will be taken off the site.

First & foremost, I appreciate the response from Diamonds
(I await the usual slagging off from some of our members about my blatant like for this agency)

I won't pretend to know how to run an agency such as this but I think it's fair of the members on here to openly state what's on their minds re Diamonds, and the subject of EE girls is a very hot topic (for good reason in my personal experience of them)

For now, I would like to request that you are up to date with the girls ages for example, both Collette & Crystal are no longer 18 & whilst it may be a pain to keep on top of a small issue like this, it is a sign of openess & honesty that get's communicated to your clients.
Cheers
FB

To be honest I'm not sure why this is not happening automatically as we introduce a system last year whereby each girl's age automatically updated according to her date of birth.

I know that due to a server issue earlier in the year we had to revert to an older version of the site temporarily so maybe it was something to do with that but I will raise this with the web guy and make sure it updates automatically.




Latest media on UKEscorting.com (free site!)