Author Topic: Nicky, Bayswater - Olina Escorts, i think it's a post-op  (Read 4880 times)

Offline crazyinsanity

Hi everybody,

First of all this is my first review.

because i'm not english. I used to learn how to speak reading that forum among some other one of course. And also because i dont have the money to afford a lot of SP. Sorry about that.

I used to book Nicky last week. I don't know how to put a link but she/he's famous here.

If it was just about the service, it will be a positive. But since the punting, and even while, i have the thought that it's a post op.

3 reasons:

She? Is strong. When she? Hugs, i get the feeling that the strength doesnt match a short lady like she? Is supposed to be.

She got a moustache.

She didn't get wet.

I asked her if she was a girl, she told me yes but who knows...

I didn't see anybody warm about that possible trap so i do for the one like who don't want that kind of experience.

Once again excuse my english.



Offline pepsicolaboy

I said this in another thread, a lot of the Asian agencies are using post OPs, if you manage to find unfiltered photos, some of the tale tale signs are there IMO.

I have nothing against anyone seeing TS, my issue is with the ongoing deception.

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Offline crazyinsanity

Yes that's her.

I knew some agencies are without moral on that kind of thing but nicky is well reviewed here so i wasn't careful.

I forget to mention that on doggy it was weird as if there was some resistance.

Offline pepsicolaboy

Being 'unusually' tight is another 'sign'

 :hi:

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Nobody else thinks that Nicky is a post-op. Some Asian women do have a bit of a tache.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 09:16:47 pm by RogerBoner »

Offline Gambitman92

Maybe it's all in your head?

The things you listed doesn't make her a man, she's well reviewed and multiple punters have mentioned giving her oral with lots of fingering, a couple saying she was wet.
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Offline golden bull

The voice usually gives it away if not operated on.
Hands and hips are a sign as well because you can’t operate on them whereas the Adam’s Apple and vocal Cord augmentation Can be done.
Hairy lip doesn’t prove anything as a lot of women has some baby buff there and some poor girl I knew at school had a proper tache........then one day she came in and it was gone and being young and horrible at that age we took the piss out of her non stop for shaving.
Feel guilty about that now as it must’ve been tough for her.

Ultra feminine looking Asian girls are a definite give away as well meaning too good looking.

Offline peter jb

Hi everybody,

First of all this is my first review.

because i'm not english. I used to learn how to speak reading that forum among some other one of course. And also because i dont have the money to afford a lot of SP. Sorry about that.

I used to book Nicky last week. I don't know how to put a link but she/he's famous here.

If it was just about the service, it will be a positive. But since the punting, and even while, i have the thought that it's a post op.

3 reasons:

She? Is strong. When she? Hugs, i get the feeling that the strength doesnt match a short lady like she? Is supposed to be.

She got a moustache.

She didn't get wet.

I asked her if she was a girl, she told me yes but who knows...

I didn't see anybody warm about that possible trap so i do for the one like who don't want that kind of experience.

Once again excuse my english.


I wouldn’t worry about the strength of Nicky . The times I’ve had a proper Thai massage for a 5’ thai lady, and felt the strength in their fingers, never mind when they put their body into it !! - it can bring tears to your eyes

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Seems the question of "are they or are they not?" is always brought up at some stage with every Thai SP.

Offline crazyinsanity

Hum... i really hope i'm wrong on that one but for the guy who will looking for see her? In the future but are not into shemale, take a very close look.

Just my 2 cents.

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Seems the question of "are they or are they not?" is always brought up at some stage with every Thai SP.

Same suspicion could be levied against any SP of any ethnicity or nationality who has had implants (and other cosmetic surgery).   :dash:

None of the observations listed above in the thread are particularly reliable or effective means of judging if a "woman" is trans as they assume specific gender characteristics for men and women which aren't unique to either gender.  They also assume the transition isn't complete.
Trans is a global situation.  Transformation costs a lot.  Trans persons are unsurprisingly tempted by the earning power of prostitution.

Offline Boringbob

Seems like a purposefully spiteful post to me.

First post
Says poor and inexperienced but going for £150 anal Thai
Nothing like any of the other reviews of this SP

FWIW I met her before lockdown and deffo a girl.  Horny as fuck as well.  Still on my "will return to" list

Thanks

Offline sunbunny

Perhaps one of the "All Thai SPs are Blokes" fraternity could clarify something for me? A brief, unscientific study on AW suggests that a TS escort can command a higher fee, presumably because of the niche market. Why would a TS, particularly one appearing as "feminine" as Nicky, not cash in on that advantage? I saw Nicky 6 weeks ago and I really don't think she's ever been a bloke.

Offline SomTumFucker

Every Thai WG earning a crust in London gets tarnished with the post op brush at some point - it’s a veritable rite of passage. As for agencies passing off post ops as girls, that‘s SAE’s MO - not Olina’s. Something off with OP having a positive experience but “finding the words” (Thai:English Google Translate is notoriously haphazard) to stick the knife in based on spurious hunches where more experienced members have dipped their cocks without suspicion.

Offline Swapmeister

Lol. Dude, you write like a gwailoh pretending to be a foreigner. A bit like those Hollywood movies where some American born Chinese guy goes 'me no spleak inglish' because that is how he or the script writer thinks non English speakers sound.

The question is why do you feel a need to make people think that you arent a Brit,?

Offline Boringbob

I'm just going to report the thread I think. I genuinely think it is deliberately harmful.

Offline crazyinsanity

Hahaha i take it as a compliment. That's mean my english writting skills are very good. Thank you very much :thumbsup:

What's the point for me to write a review for take down a girl but still said that service wise she was down for anything? And if i choose that one it was because i get a yellow fever that day and she? Is ok to see black guy

Really guys what's the point? Actually that's quite funny.

Offline Gambitman92

Hahaha i take it as a compliment. That's mean my english writting skills are very good. Thank you very much :thumbsup:

What's the point for me to write a review for take down a girl but still said that service wise she was down for anything? And if i choose that one it was because i get a yellow fever that day and she? Is ok to see black guy

Really guys what's the point? Actually that's quite funny.

I believe your review, I just disagree that she was born a man, read her previous reviews on here.
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Offline Punter_Dave

Having seen her, if she is post-op, that surgeon needs a raise...  :lol:

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Having seen her, if she is post-op, that surgeon needs a raise...  :lol:

I'm sure he got more than one rise out of it for free.

Offline sanchez

Having seen her, if she is post-op, that surgeon needs a raise...  :lol:

Yeah. That would be some incredible work if it were true.

It never crossed my mind for a second during my punt with her.

Offline magnetico

Having seen her, if she is post-op, that surgeon needs a raise...  :lol:
Got the exact same thoughts

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Offline winkywanky

Perhaps one of the "All Thai SPs are Blokes" fraternity could clarify something for me? A brief, unscientific study on AW suggests that a TS escort can command a higher fee, presumably because of the niche market. Why would a TS, particularly one appearing as "feminine" as Nicky, not cash in on that advantage? I saw Nicky 6 weeks ago and I really don't think she's ever been a bloke.


That's true, but normally for a Pre-Op TS. AFAIK there isn't really the demand for a Post-Op that there is for a Pre-Op. I guess the reason why is pretty obvious, if you have the choice between a gorgeous Cisgirl and a gorgeous Post-Op T-girl, most guys will go for the Cisgirl. Most guys who like Trans girls will go for a Pre-Op for that extra special something  :D.

As a result, most Post-Ops will present themselves as female, they feel like a girl, look like a girl, want to be seen as a girl. Of course that's unfair on the punter, most guys would be annoyed or even horrified to find that they were deceived in such a way.

The other side of the coin is something we see here frequently, which to be fair, has come about because of this deception...and that is, an almost hysteria about being tricked in such a way. A lot of guys are very, very wary of mainly Thai girls, and also Brazilians. While caution is fine, and asking questions/opinions is fine, there is sadly some very ill-informed bullshit which unfairly damages the reputations of an increasing number of Cis-WGs.

As for this particular WG...well apparently she's previously well-reviewed by several punters from UKP, so putting that into the equation, if they didn't notice anything amiss, then it has to be said it's unlikely that she used to have a cock.

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That's true, but normally for a Pre-Op TS. AFAIK there isn't really the demand for a Post-Op that there is for a Pre-Op. I guess the reason why is pretty obvious, if you have the choice between a gorgeous Cisgirl and a gorgeous Post-Op T-girl, most guys will go for the Cisgirl. Most guys who like Trans girls will go for a Pre-Op for that extra special something  :D.

As a result, most Post-Ops will present themselves as female, they feel like a girl, look like a girl, want to be seen as a girl. Of course that's unfair on the punter, most guys would be annoyed or even horrified to find that they were deceived in such a way.

The other side of the coin is something we see here frequently, which to be fair, has come about because of this deception...and that is, an almost hysteria about being tricked in such a way. A lot of guys are very, very wary of mainly Thai girls, and also Brazilians. While caution is fine, and asking questions/opinions is fine, there is sadly some very ill-informed bullshit which unfairly damages the reputations of an increasing number of Cis-WGs.
winkywanky please could you clarify some of these terms. It's tempting to be disingenuous and claim complete ignorance because I'm a real man and know nowt.

A trans woman is a man who is on hormones and dresses in drag. But what about surgery? And I don't know what a cis is. I could do the research but you and the Doc are a great source of information.  :rose:


Offline blend57

I am not sure when it happened but folks of the board seem to be more open about visiting TS escorts. Maybe it started a couple of years ago, but I am not sure.

I am not judging anyone, each to their own. However, this situation has lead to some people being paranoid that they might end up with a TS (pre or post op) due to a mistake, poor research of a given escort or due to a deliberate deception on the part of an escort.

I did do a small bit of research a month or so ago. I looked at the number of reviews for TS and compared it to the number of reviews for female (Cis seems to be the term some use) escorts. The majority of reviews are for female escorts. The same can be said about adult work profiles. The vast majority are for female escort and not TS escorts. Yes, I know that there are post-op TS that person themselves as female but I still think you would have to be unlucky to book one for an appointment.

In conclusion, you would have to be unlucky to find yourself in a room with a TS escort. I think you need to be more concerned with photoshopped pictures, selfie pictures taken at odd angles (usually done to make a woman appear thinner), bait and switch tactics, and the creative mathematics used when determining an escorts age.

Offline winkywanky

winkywanky please could you clarify some of these terms. It's tempting to be disingenuous and claim complete ignorance because I'm a real man and know nowt.

A trans woman is a man who is on hormones and dresses in drag. But what about surgery? And I don't know what a cis is. I could do the research but you and the Doc are a great source of information.  :rose:


I can see you're rather old-school Roger  :D.

A Trans Woman was born a man and at some point, decided they'd be much more comfortable as a woman. They want to live as a woman, be a woman, be seen and regarded as a woman.

There are various points along that journey, which may or may not ultimately result in having the meat & two veg cut off, and having a vagina fashioned out of the original parts. Some Trans girls decide they like their bits and keep them. They remain as Pre-Op, ones that go the whole hog are Post-Op.

Points along the journey: dressing as a woman, wearing make-up, possibly falsies. At this point they'd be what most would consider a CD/Crossdresser, TV/Transvestite. Beyond that, taking female hormones and perhaps testosterone blockers, to feel and look more like a Cis-woman (ie born as a woman). Depending on when this hormonal transition starts, she may develop a pretty well full sized set of natural breasts, soft skin and a softer, more feminine voice without any affectation. If the transition is started mid-teens then there's a good chance of all of these.

Leaving it much later, and there'll be more body hair to deal with, more facial hair, a deeper voice, more manly face, bigger Adam's Apple etc. So for her to feel and be convincing there'll be courses of laser hair-removal treatment, larynx-shaving, breast implants etc, and possibly elocution and deportment lessons  :D.

IMO to simply call such a person - who's made all that effort to simply just feel right in their own skin - a geezer in drag, is wide of the mark as well as downright unfair. But of course beauty, and even femininity, is in the eye of the beholder. Some Trans women are actually more feminine and more gorgeous than their Cis-female counterparts, by pretty well anyone's standards. Sometimes the only give-away is what's between their legs.

For guys that like to see TS girls, there are of course some horror stories about meeting a girl with stubble, caked in make-up and legs like a footballer. The other extreme is guys that only want to see a Cis-girl, and are horrified/discomfited/amused to find later on that they actually saw a Post_op Trans girl.

I actually don't understand it all myself, but from my personal POV it's quite fun finding out for myself. A fully-committed Trans girl is not simply a gay bloke in a frock at the weekends. I think that's fair to say. As for me, seeing Trans girls as well as Cis-girls...am I bisexual? I'd say I don't feel that way, I don't fancy blokes at all, not really even pretty ones. Other people can think what they like, it doesn't particularly bother me. What does piss me off is some of the comments (a lot less these days it has to be said  :hi:) that Johnny-big-bollocks UKP members make on Trans reviews, designed to wave their cock about and in some way 'prove' their masculinity. Idiots like that are worthy of derision in my view, and derision is what they get. But if it's not for you, and that's just not the way you see things then that's fine.

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Thank you winkywanky. Before you responded I had a quick google. Your explanation is far more precise as I knew it would be. Now I know that cis means born as. I don't want to derail the thread. So a ladyboy is a mainly Thai term for a trans man. You should visit Thailand where they are seamlessly integrated into their society and are more feminine in their manner than girls. Thanks again.

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Thank you winkywanky. Before you responded I had a quick google. Your explanation is far more precise as I knew it would be. Now I know that cis means born as. I don't want to derail the thread. So a ladyboy is a mainly Thai term for a trans man. You should visit Thailand where they are seamlessly integrated into their society and are more feminine in their manner than girls. Thanks again.


Er, no, a Trans man is a Cis-female who has transitioned to male  :hi: (I bet you didn't know they even existed  :D).

But don't worry, Ofqual will still give you an A*  :cool:.