Dating a prossie. Is it as bad an idea as it sounds?

[Wowgeek]

Not clear in the slightest, in this post you are referring to rape. -

Unlawful is a somewhat 'umbrella' term and includes things that are illegal. I know when marital rape became illegal but I have no idea when rape outside of marriage did. I remember when sex outside of marriage was frowned upon or even classed as immoral, I don't recall it being classed as unlawful. I even remember when divorce was extremely difficult. 

If you didn't want to open a debate you should not have brought the subject up. Making a statement then telling others not to disagree with it normally has the opposite effect.

Which is why I try not to get embroiled in these debates, my fault.

A comment was made about sex outside marriage being illegal, my post made it clear it was unlawful, not illegal and I used old rape legislation as an example of what unlawful meant. I have never said not to disagree with me, I stated facts, which aren’t open to disagreement. I never mentioned rape outside marriage, which has always been illegal, even in common law.  And you make my point for me and then talk against it, you say you remember when sex outside marriage was ‘even classed as immoral’. That’s what unlawful, in this context means. So we’re both saying the same thing.

[Mr Doodle]

Better believe that woman is wearing the trousers in that relationship  . He might aswell be a house husband LOL.

Darn it! I thought she was taking the trousers off!! 

[daviemac]

Which is why I try not to get embroiled in these debates, my fault.

A comment was made about sex outside marriage being illegal,

That was pointed out by someone else, the person who said it acknowledged his error, it could've been left at that but you chose to comment. 

[fantasticmrfox]

I think this thread is so commonplace and often resurfaces as many (of us) share a fascination of the punting world. Ask some SPs, I'm sure they will attest there are various punters who actively pursue them to have a relationship. There's been talk about being put off with dating a SP because of the thought of her shagging multiple guys a day. I think that'd be a consensus but let's not forget some guys will find that a turn on (whatever floats your boat). Therefore, there is some intrigue, perceived excitement, a sense of something illicit and titillating and let's not forget its quite logical that you may fall for an SP because you're having a great time in your own world.

Good luck to everyone, but the point I make is a relationship usually involves more than two people and that's where it can get complicated and you have to move on to the realities away from cosy dates and hot sex. For example, spending time with friends and family, social events, kids, social media, work events etc.

As an item you're connected to the outside world and the world operates in small circles. You could be with and SP and some unknown punter at work has been with her. One thing we also know is that more people punt than let on

So I don't actually think it's wrong, bad or inadvisable to date anyone far from it. But most the comments are about the dynamics between two individuals but the reality is as soon as you date seriously, you're kinda intertwined in your extended lives and that's what you'd also have to think about. No reason why people can't have a great relationship though.

[mrfishyfoo]

I think this thread is so commonplace and often resurfaces as many (of us) share a fascination of the punting world. Ask some SPs, I'm sure they will attest there are various punters who actively pursue them to have a relationship. There's been talk about being put off with dating a SP because of the thought of her shagging multiple guys a day. I think that'd be a consensus but let's not forget some guys will find that a turn on (whatever floats your boat). Therefore, there is some intrigue, perceived excitement, a sense of something illicit and titillating and let's not forget its quite logical that you may fall for an SP because you're having a great time in your own world.

Good luck to everyone, but the point I make is a relationship usually involves more than two people and that's where it can get complicated and you have to move on to the realities away from cosy dates and hot sex. For example, spending time with friends and family, social events, kids, social media, work events etc.

As an item you're connected to the outside world and the world operates in small circles. You could be with and SP and some unknown punter at work has been with her. One thing we also know is that more people punt than let on

So I don't actually think it's wrong, bad or inadvisable to date anyone far from it. But most the comments are about the dynamics between two individuals but the reality is as soon as you date seriously, you're kinda intertwined in your extended lives and that's what you'd also have to think about. No reason why people can't have a great relationship though.

WTF would you know ?? 

You've been here as long as me so how come your review count is currently a great big ZERO ?? 

[robo90]

I haven't read this thread in its entirety so apologies in advance if this has already been mentioned, (I've read the last 2/3 pages but 26 would take me too long lol). Anyway, to throw a slight curveball to this topic what if the SP isn't fucking/giving oral to her clients, for me personally this would be difficult to have a relationship but I guess each case has is differences, but would a masseuse or even a BDSM provider where they are only providing an erotic experience with the only 'sexual' service on offer from either being a hand shandy, be just as difficult for people to have a serious relationship with, or would there still be the same potential trust issues?

[Thephoenix]

I haven't read this thread in its entirety so apologies in advance if this has already been mentioned, (I've read the last 2/3 pages but 26 would take me too long lol). Anyway, to throw a slight curveball to this topic what if the SP isn't fucking/giving oral to her clients, for me personally this would be difficult to have a relationship but I guess each case has is differences, but would a masseuse or even a BDSM provider where they are only providing an erotic experience with the only 'sexual' service on offer from either being a hand shandy, be just as difficult for people to have a serious relationship with, or would there still be the same potential trust issues?

This is another reason why all the generalisations on this topic are pointless.

There's a happily married couple in NW who are well reviewed, and are an example of this.

External Link/Members Only

No doubt somebody will come on and say he's a pimp and she's a druggie, and it can't possibly work.

Likewise in relation to bdsm providers, a couple own a swingers club in Birkenhead and the female is a professional Dom.

External Link/Members Only
and it seems to work for them.

[cotton]

This is another reason why all the generalisations on this topic are pointless.

There's a happily married couple in NW who are well reviewed, and are an example of this.

External Link/Members Only

No doubt somebody will come on and say he's a pimp and she's a druggie, and it can't possibly work.

Likewise in relation to bdsm providers, a couple own a swingers club in Birkenhead and the female is a professional Dom.

External Link/Members Only
and it seems to work for them.

Yes undoubtedly there are instances of it, it happens.
However i thinks its fair to say that it is an unusual phenomenon and the individuals involved are unusual people.
From a guy pov it essentially comes down to wether you like the idea of your loved one fucking loads of other guys or at the very least if you can tolerate it.
Going out on a limb id say most guys woudnt want , or even if they tried it for the sake of their partner, woudnt be able to cope or tolerate it.
Yes im sure alot of us would date a hooker for free sexual services, thats a different matter , but is anyone able to put their hand in the air and claim that they would be (or are) happy for their loved one to fuck loads of other guys  and that goes for if shes a hooker or not.
Because if there is anyone it would be interesting to ask them about it.

[king tarzan]

Yes undoubtedly there are instances of it, it happens.
However i thinks its fair to say that it is an unusual phenomenon and the individuals involved are unusual people.
From a guy pov it essentially comes down to wether you like the idea of your loved one fucking loads of other guys or at the very least if you can tolerate it.
Going out on a limb id say most guys woudnt want , or even if they tried it for the sake of their partner, woudnt be able to cope or tolerate it.
Yes im sure alot of us would date a hooker for free sexual services, thats a different matter , but is anyone able to put their hand in the air and claim that they would be (or are) happy for their loved one to fuck loads of other guys  and that goes for if shes a hooker or not.
Because if there is anyone it would be interesting to ask them about it.

There's nothing called free sex with a hooker.. get that delusional nonsense out of your head..
The hookers have done the calculations and they will get you in other ways... You will be paying for it in different formats.. like paid up holiday expense all on you.. champagne expensive wine dinners all on you..

Let's face it most hookers are very cunning.. how they cut time, try to short change on services..

As if they will fucken be honest in a serious relationship..

[Thephoenix]

There's nothing called free sex with a hooker.. get that delusional nonsense out of your head..
The hookers have done the calculations and they will get you in other ways... You will be paying for it in different formats.. like paid up holiday expense all on you.. champagne expensive wine dinners all on you..

Let's face it most hookers are very cunning.. how they cut time, try to short change on services..

As if they will fucken be honest in a serious relationship..

Ok..... I give up!😶

[HoldMichaels]

Ok..... I give up!😶

Yep, as did I.

I gave my experience of dating an SW, but no matter what, apparently I broke up with her due to her work. One guy comes along and gives a negative experience and BOOM, suddenly that's 'dispelled the myth' and is the only definitive experience. It's not a debate, it's a circle jerk. That's why I'm out.

[oddson1970]

KT has a mindset that will not be changed...be as well talking to a brick wall

[SeriousLee]

I'm staying as this is relatively entertaining in a lockdown life. The staunch anti escort daters won't budge from their viewpoint and its making this thread worth the read

[Hobbit]

I'm staying as this is relatively entertaining in a lockdown life. The staunch anti escort daters won't budge from their viewpoint and its making this thread worth the read

It's not that simple. And it's not a case of changing people's mindsets. I can clearly see that sex is not free in any capacity of life and yet many others don't. It's a matter of perception and experience. It differs from one person to another.

IMO, if you really want to date a girl then date a civvy. Hookers are for shagging. It's that simple.

[SeriousLee]

It's not that simple. And it's not a case of changing people's mindsets. I can clearly see that sex is not free in any capacity of life and yet many others don't. It's a matter of perception and experience. It differs from one person to another.

IMO, if you really want to date a girl then date a civvy. Hookers are for shagging. It's that simple.

I have no intention of changing someone's perspective. Just like how people are all different shapes and sizes, it should be equally possible for relationships to be "different shapes and sizes."

Nobody here is saying that it 100% will happen and be a fairytale ending. We are just saying its possible, even if the odds were as low as winning the lottery, it would still mean it could happen, right?

Unfortunately you can't control who you fall for only who you decide to date.

[Hobbit]

I have no intention of changing someone's perspective. Just like how people are all different shapes and sizes, it should be equally possible for relationships to be "different shapes and sizes."

Nobody here is saying that it 100% will happen and be a fairytale ending. We are just saying its possible, even if the odds were as low as winning the lottery, it would still mean it could happen, right?

Unfortunately you can't control who you fall for only who you decide to date.

It could happen, you are right. But if you are experienced then you will make sure to try your best not to get EAS because that's all it is. It isn't Love. And if it was, it will probably last three years max in my experience and would then need to mutate into something different to last. A bit like COVID but not so infectious.

But like you said, you live and learn. Good luck.

[Stonedwolf]

I'm on the fluffy end of the spectrum, but can't see how dating a WG with the view of having an actual relationship (rather than FWB) without a clear end in sight would be a good idea unless you're comfortable with her seeing multiple men a day.

And if she was to quit, maintaining the current lifestyle seems unsustainable unless she's got a strong exit plan (as I'm sure a fair number do), she changes lifestyle or you've got deep enough pockets to subsidise her current lifestyle.

In life in general,  I don't think anything is free. But I'm just becoming a skeptic haha

[Doc Holliday]

From a guy pov it essentially comes down to whether you like the idea of your loved one fucking loads of other guys or at the very least if you can tolerate it.
Going out on a limb id say most guys woudnt want , or even if they tried it for the sake of their partner, woudn’t be able to cope or tolerate it.

I'm on the fluffy end of the spectrum, but can't see how dating a WG with the view of having an actual relationship (rather than FWB) without a clear end in sight would be a good idea unless you're comfortable with her seeing multiple men a day.

As I have posted before I thought I could handle it, but couldn't. At the point at which we realised it was going to be more than just a sexual relationship, she couldn't handle it either. There was then a choice of split up or find an exit strategy. We chose the latter and a time scale and it worked out fine.

[Hobbit]

As I have posted before I thought I could handle it, but couldn't. At the point at which we realised it was going to be more than just a sexual relationship, she couldn't handle it either. There was then a choice of split up or find an exit strategy. We chose the latter and a time scale and it worked out fine.

Exit Strategy. Did you have to call in the Marines to get you out? 

[king tarzan]

KT has a mindset that will not be changed...be as well talking to a brick wall

I do £20 kiss tests


Shall I do escort relationship test??😂😂😂😂

Oops I'm not that stupid because I will end up like this 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭maybe homeless too😭😭😭😭😭

[hermanmunster]

Answering the original question (apologies but I haven't read any replies to this point), I got to know a Russian WG but this was outside her occupation.  I never had a relationship with her other than as a friend/acquaintance, however she clearly wanted more.  But over a period of a couple of years it became clear that her life as a WG had totally "screwed her up" and she wasn't able to act rationally in any sort of friendship.  It was sad really and I eventually decided to distance myself from her.

[Hobbit]

Shall I do escort relationship test??😂😂😂😂

I'll pay you £20 if you do it. 

[king tarzan]

Answering the original question (apologies but I haven't read any replies to this point), I got to know a Russian WG but this was outside her occupation.  I never had a relationship with her other than as a friend/acquaintance, however she clearly wanted more.  But over a period of a couple of years it became clear that her life as a WG had totally "screwed her up" and she wasn't able to act rationally in any sort of friendship.  It was sad really and I eventually decided to distance myself from her.

Let's be realistic
And I've told a few escorts over the years this job isn't for you... Do something else..
And touched the side of there head gently and told them this will mess up overtime, your not mentally strong enough..

I know it sounds unrealistic coming from me..
I said it because I cared about there well being as a human not a punter..
Whether they listened or not, no idea.... Never saw them again after that

[king tarzan]

I'll pay you £20 if you do it. 

What about my emotional disaster or my financial disasters??😂😂😂😂

[Hobbit]

What about my emotional disaster or my financial disasters??😂😂😂😂

The guys said you don't know unless you try. Be optimistic and dream a little. It's good for the libido. 

[Doc Holliday]

Exit Strategy. Did you have to call in the Marines to get you out? 

  Needed SBS in the end 

[Mr Sinister]

Unfortunately you can't control who you fall for only who you decide to date.

That is an excuse, of course you can control it, you make certain choices in life which leads you down to the situation you find yourself in. Got to be accountable for your actions, if you end up falling in love with a prossie it is because you chose to fall in love with a prossie.

[winkywanky]

That is an excuse, of course you can control it, you make certain choices in life which leads you down to the situation you find yourself in. Got to be accountable for your actions, if you end up falling in love with a prossie it is because you chose to fall in love with a prossie.

Just because that's the way you are, doesn't mean others are the same way. We're all different in that regard.

[Mr Sinister]

Just because that's the way you are, doesn't mean others are the same way. We're all different in that regard.

We've all been there including me(civvy wise) but it is all down to choice, you would have had to make multiple choices and several actions to get where you are, along the way you would have had doubts too but probably chose to ignore those, there's no cupid waving his magical bow about.

[SeriousLee]

The how was your day conversation with an escort alone would be more interesting than with any other occupation. I can imagine it's something like this.

"Hey darling, how was your day at work today?"
"Well you know, I saw someone wrote a nasty review about me on UKP saying I gave a poor service and I am timewaster which I'm not and I created an account to refute the claims. Things got a bit heated and I ended up getting banned. I decided to create a few accounts and write some positive reviews to negate the negative one but I got banned again for being a White Knight."

Highly recommend dating an escort just for dinner conversation about work.

[Guitartuna]

That is an excuse, of course you can control it, you make certain choices in life which leads you down to the situation you find yourself in. Got to be accountable for your actions, if you end up falling in love with a prossie it is because you chose to fall in love with a prossie.

That is quite an ignorant , black and white way of looking at this . Life is just not that simple ,people are just not that simple . Think of black and white as two opposite poles with a huge gray area in between. It may suit you to look at things in such simplistic terms but I am afraid it just is not so .

[Filli]

I've dated 2 escorts both relationships were totally different:

The 1st one i dated was awesome we are still friends and she did quit working once we got together she then moved abroad for a while and wevfinished the relationship when she came back she got in contact and shes now one of my best friends

2nd one was unstable drug addict and had a load of issues that i didnt realize at 1st if you meet one of these stay clear!

On the whole i still don't recommend it

[Mr Sinister]

That is quite an ignorant , black and white way of looking at this . Life is just not that simple ,people are just not that simple . Think of black and white as two opposite poles with a huge gray area in between. It may suit you to look at things in such simplistic terms but I am afraid it just is not so .

I get it I can see how guys get themselves into that situation but I also know I'll never put myself in that situation with a prossie ever.

[SeriousLee]

That is an excuse, of course you can control it, you make certain choices in life which leads you down to the situation you find yourself in. Got to be accountable for your actions, if you end up falling in love with a prossie it is because you chose to fall in love with a prossie.

But there isn't anything inherently wrong with falling in love with a prostitute. Relationships fail for a multitude of reasons. As long as the person you end up trying to pursue as a casual dater or a significant other, be it civvie or prostitute, has a similar character and personality to you and is willing to compromise it is likely it would a positive experience. It may still end but the end is also likely to be amicable.

I've had terrible experiences seeing Bulgarian escorts. To disregard them all based on I think 2 or 3 would be ludicrous. Romanians get a lot of stick on here though it should always be an individual basis rather than tarnishing them all.

Dating and banging are completely different obviously.

[Payyourwaymate]

But there isn't anything inherently wrong with falling in love with a prostitute. Relationships fail for a multitude of reasons. As long as the person you end up trying to pursue as a casual dater or a significant other, be it civvie or prostitute, has a similar character and personality to you and is willing to compromise it is likely it would a positive experience. It may still end but the end is also likely to be amicable.

I think there is. However, not on the fault of the woman...but the man. How lonely and what sort of dark place would he have to be in to fall for a WG from a customer standpoint? For that to happen I would class the individual as a vunerable person that can easily be taken advantage of as their mind is not in a secure place to be even venturing to such a place to seek affection. If the man met the WG on the civvy side and did not know she was a WG and the context is completely different then fine, shit happens. However, if one met her as a WG as a punter and somehow fell for her thinking she is their world and honeyboo then LOL, good luck to that sucker.

[MissWolf]

I think there is. However, not on the fault of the woman...but the man. How lonely and what sort of dark place would he have to be in to fall for a WG from a customer standpoint? For that to happen I would class the individual as a vunerable person that can easily be taken advantage of as their mind is not in a secure place to be even venturing to such a place to seek affection. If the man met the WG on the civvy side and did not know she was a WG and the context is completely different then fine, shit happens. However, if one met her as a WG as a punter and somehow fell for her thinking she is their world and honeyboo then LOL, good luck to that sucker.

The thing is there are guys who visit SP's and delude themselves completely as to the 'relationship' that they have with the WG,  they build it up in their head to be much more than it is, a good wg will spot it and stop seeing the client,  a bad one will milk it.

I've had 2 clients, both of whom after two bookings I had to refuse to see again and block, both told mehow lonely they were on their first booking, one kept asking me if i was single and he wished i was looking for a boyfriend and one actually felt we had such an amazing connection that he wanted me to give up work and be just his.

I did absolutely nothing different from any other booking, they just read into my service what they wanted.

Not all wg's are scamming thieving whores, just like not all blokes are violent wife beaters but some are, relationships with wg's can work and do work but it depends on the personality of both parties just like it does in any relationship.

(And before you all get your Calvin kline's in a twist I used the male wife beater as an extreme comparison I'm not saying anyone is one etc  )

[king tarzan]

The thing is there are guys who visit SP's and delude themselves completely as to the 'relationship' that they have with the WG,  they build it up in their head to be much more than it is, a good wg will spot it and stop seeing the client,  a bad one will milk it.

I've had 2 clients, both of whom after two bookings I had to refuse to see again and block, both told mehow lonely they were on their first booking, one kept asking me if i was single and he wished i was looking for a boyfriend and one actually felt we had such an amazing connection that he wanted me to give up work and be just his.

I did absolutely nothing different from any other booking, they just read into my service what they wanted.

Not all wg's are scamming thieving whores, just like not all blokes are violent wife beaters but some are, relationships with wg's can work and do work but it depends on the personality of both parties just like it does in any relationship.

(And before you all get your Calvin kline's in a twist I used the male wife beater as an extreme comparison I'm not saying anyone is one etc  )

Yep I've got my korous  edt spilled!!😂😂👍

[mrfishyfoo]

The thing is there are guys who visit SP's and delude themselves completely as to the 'relationship' that they have with the WG,  they build it up in their head to be much more than it is, a good wg will spot it and stop seeing the client,  a bad one will milk it.

I've had 2 clients, both of whom after two bookings I had to refuse to see again and block, both told mehow lonely they were on their first booking, one kept asking me if i was single and he wished i was looking for a boyfriend and one actually felt we had such an amazing connection that he wanted me to give up work and be just his.

I did absolutely nothing different from any other booking, they just read into my service what they wanted.

Not all wg's are scamming thieving whores, just like not all blokes are violent wife beaters but some are, relationships with wg's can work and do work but it depends on the personality of both parties just like it does in any relationship.

(And before you all get your Calvin kline's in a twist I used the male wife beater as an extreme comparison I'm not saying anyone is one etc  )

I can imagine it now as the deluded cunt asked to have pups with you. 

FFS !!! 

The bit about CK's made me chuckle. 

[MissWolf]

I can imagine it now as the deluded cunt asked to have pups with you. 

FFS !!! 

The bit about CK's made me chuckle. 

I'm over 50 and had the plumbing out 

[mrfishyfoo]

I'm over 50 and had the plumbing out 

No pups then.

[Simon_9000]

that he wanted me to give up work and be just his.

From speaking to other WGs, this seems quite a common proposition. 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

From speaking to other WGs, this seems quite a common proposition. 

Well tain't that a surprise!, that bloke may be on the end of years of a cold marridge bed and this woman, this woman is the hottest thing he's experenced for a Very long time!, no bloody wonder he wants to spirit her away!

Poor deluded sod ..

Or he will be poor before long if he does!

[Scoobyseeker]

Will need to read all 26 pages as just signed up after probably 100 punts over last two years things took an unexpected turn with last punt.

Last punt gave me here private number, had four phones on her as was only English speaker in flat with three other Thai girls. Started facetiming me every day, sometimes over an hour in evenings, then invites me to come see her. Turn up and get sit down meal with her and other girls. After that spend the afternoon with her with no ask for money. Got home 30 miles away in sticks for her to phone asking to come see me. Drives out and spends the night.

She's divorced and lost her kids last year, have her real name and social media accounts so verified somewhat. However getting alarmed as she's on about bareback already.

[cotton]

As I have posted before I thought I could handle it, but couldn't. At the point at which we realised it was going to be more than just a sexual relationship, she couldn't handle it either. There was then a choice of split up or find an exit strategy. We chose the latter and a time scale and it worked out fine.

Yeh id say your case illustrates how any normal emotionally functioning person would feel and act and that it would inevitably come down to either the whoring stops or the relationship ends. Its on the one hand a great example of how dating an SP can work (because she quit) but its also perfectly illustrates just just how big a problem the whoring is and why in most cases it destroys the relationship.
Because if she dosnt quit then the guy has to live with her whoring , maybe he likes it or maybe it chews him up inside but either way it needs a guy whos wired a bit diferently from normal, but obviously , as Misswolf and Phoenix testify theres no shortage of screwballs in the punterspere, just look at all the crazy fetishes people have.

[Thephoenix]

Yeh id say your case illustrates how any normal emotionally functioning person would feel and act and that it would inevitably come down to either the whoring stops or the relationship ends. Its on the one hand a great example of how dating an SP can work (because she quit) but its also perfectly illustrates just just how big a problem the whoring is and why in most cases it destroys the relationship.
Because if she dosnt quit then the guy has to live with her whoring , maybe he likes it or maybe it chews him up inside but either way it needs a guy whos wired a bit diferently from normal, but obviously , as Misswolf and Phoenix testify theres no shortage of screwballs in the punterspere, just look at all the crazy fetishes people have.

What is a normal man? 

[cotton]

What is a normal man? 

Well within the confines of the discussion i think everyone would agree its a man who isnt ok with his partner fucking loads of other people, or a man who did find himself emotionally embroiled with a hooker would ultimately have to either end the relationship or agree with the SP in question that shes gotta quit 
You gave some great examples of where guys do exist in long term relationships with active hookers and thats great but i woudnt classify those guys as conventionally normal 

[king tarzan]

Well within the confines of the discussion i think everyone would agree its a man who isnt ok with his partner fucking loads of other people, or a man who did find himself emotionally embroiled with a hooker would ultimately have to either end the relationship or agree with the SP in question that shes gotta quit 
You gave some great examples of where guys do exist in long term relationships with active hookers and thats great but i woudnt classify those guys as conventionally normal 

That sort of man will easily have been found on the Jeremy Kyle show.. Simpletto

[Hobbit]

The thing is there are guys who visit SP's and delude themselves completely as to the 'relationship' that they have with the WG,  they build it up in their head to be much more than it is, a good wg will spot it and stop seeing the client,  a bad one will milk it.

I've had 2 clients, both of whom after two bookings I had to refuse to see again and block, both told mehow lonely they were on their first booking, one kept asking me if i was single and he wished i was looking for a boyfriend and one actually felt we had such an amazing connection that he wanted me to give up work and be just his.

I did absolutely nothing different from any other booking, they just read into my service what they wanted.

Not all wg's are scamming thieving whores, just like not all blokes are violent wife beaters but some are, relationships with wg's can work and do work but it depends on the personality of both parties just like it does in any relationship.

(And before you all get your Calvin kline's in a twist I used the male wife beater as an extreme comparison I'm not saying anyone is one etc  )

I agree with you that there are some escorts that spot the signs but let the delusion carry on out of greed of money. You'll be surprised how many are like that when large amounts of money is involved.

[king tarzan]

I agree with you that there are some escorts that spot the signs but let the delusion carry on out of greed of money. You'll be surprised how many are like that when large amounts of money is involved.

Imagine going to the pub, asking barmaid for a pint and she throws it all over you.
Going to a restaurant and the waiter says to you " what do you fucken want to order cunt?'
Obviously they wouldn't because they are programmed to be polite for you to return..
Escorts program themselves mentally (the good ones do anyway) to be polite and give you great time for you to return to them with your money again..

It's public relations...

[mrfishyfoo]

Will need to read all 26 pages as just signed up after probably 100 punts over last two years things took an unexpected turn with last punt.

Last punt gave me here private number, had four phones on her as was only English speaker in flat with three other Thai girls. Started facetiming me every day, sometimes over an hour in evenings, then invites me to come see her. Turn up and get sit down meal with her and other girls. After that spend the afternoon with her with no ask for money. Got home 30 miles away in sticks for her to phone asking to come see me. Drives out and spends the night.

She's divorced and lost her kids last year, have her real name and social media accounts so verified somewhat. However getting alarmed as she's on about bareback already.

I'll give you the benefit. 

All she wants is a British passport and she won't give a shit about which mug gets it for her.